Shows / The Jon and Marc Podcast
The Jon and Marc Podcast
Legal growth insights from Jon, Marc, and the industry's top tier legal & marketing professionals. Two veteran legal marketers, Jon Robinson and Marc Rioux, dive into the business of law, mass torts, and the future of plaintiff-side firms. From marketing strategy and technology to candid conversations with top trial lawyers, marketers, and industry leaders, this podcast unpacks what’s really driving growth and change in the legal world. Honest, practical, and a little irreverent—perfect for…
Episodes
- The Jon and Marc Podcast
How a $6M Bellwether Verdict Changes the Social Media Addiction Landscape
Key Takeaways: How the $6M social media bellwether verdict breaks down and what the liability split means Why the Dupixent MDL is expected to be a smaller…
- The Jon and Marc Podcast
How Top Law Firms Fix Broken Lead Flow and Stop Losing Cases
Key Takeways Why phone number matching between CallRail and your CMS is the most reliable attribution method, and why you should still expect up to 20% data…
- The Jon and Marc Podcast
Inside the $40M Case Acquisition Engine at Angel Reyes & Associates
Key Takeways: Why Angel Reyes & Associates eliminated television advertising after spending nearly $200M How a cost per kept case model changes law firm…
- The Jon and Marc Podcast
The 4 Mass Tort Developments Plaintiff Firms Should Be Watching
Key Takeaways Why the social media addiction trial against Meta may be trending toward a plaintiff verdict How the UK warning on semaglutide could strengthen…
- The Jon and Marc Podcast
AI for Law Firms: What Should Stay Human and What Shouldn't
Key Takeways The three bucket framework for deciding where AI belongs in a law firm Why the real divide is between AI users and AI power users How AI can…
- The Jon and Marc Podcast
The Baby Food MDL Just Collapsed. What Plaintiffs Will Do Next | Tort Talk
Key Takeaways Why the Daubert ruling excluded four key experts in the baby food MDL How the social media addiction trial could influence future platform…
- The Jon and Marc Podcast
The Private Equity Playbook PI Firm Owners Aren’t Ready For in 2026
How LSOs and MSOs work without violating rules on non-lawyer ownership What opportunists ask for first (“How do I control the lawyers”) and why it dies there…
- The Jon and Marc Podcast
Roundup Shifts. Meta Sweats. J&J Fights Back | Tort Talk
How the proposed $7.3B Roundup class action could cap attorney fees at 22% for cases signed after February 17, 2026 Why resolving future, undiagnosed Roundup…
- The Jon and Marc Podcast
Why Most PI Firms are Lighting Money on Fire | James Helm, TopDog Law
Key Takeways Why the first 500 cases are your cheapest and how to capitalize on that window How to structure a social team by platform instead of generic roles…
- The Jon and Marc Podcast
Top 10 Mass Torts to Watch in 2026 | Power Rankings for Plaintiff Firms
Key Takeaways How Hair Relaxer’s numerosity and maturity keep it at #1 and what dates matter next Why Uber’s $8.5M verdict matters after a prior zero verdict…
- The Jon and Marc Podcast
The Social Media Reckoning: Inside the Historic Trial with Matt Bergman
Key Takeaways • The Social Media Addiction Trial focuses on product design and algorithm mechanics, not simply content moderation. • Attorney Matthew Bergman…
- The Jon and Marc Podcast
Beasley Allen Disqualified??
• The Uber verdict establishes agency liability without punitive damages • Lyft MDL in Northern District of California may move faster due to Uber roadmap •…
The Jon and Marc PodcastThe Social Media Trial Big Tech Doesn’t Want
Snap settled. TikTok settled. Jury selection resumes. The social media addiction trial everyone has been talking about is officially underway and opening…
The Jon and Marc PodcastYou Either Compete, Get Bought, or Die: The New Reality of PI Law
Wall Street money is entering personal injury like never before… buying firms, buying leads, and squeezing margins. In this episode of The Jon & Marc Podcast…
The Jon and Marc PodcastFive Mass Tort Trials at Once? Live Updates from NTL Miami
Mass torts are moving fast… faster than most people have seen in years. Live from the National Trial Lawyers Summit in Miami, Jon, Marc, and Joe Fantini break…
The Jon and Marc PodcastRoundup Heads to the Supreme Court + A Rare Wave of Mass Tort Trials
After months of waiting, the Mass Tort docket is officially in motion. In this week’s Tort Talk, Jon Robinson, Marc Rioux, and Joe Fantini break down a rare…
The Jon and Marc PodcastLaw Firm Marketing in 2026: The Predictions No One Wants to Hear
Legal marketing is changing fast and 2026 is going to force a real reset. In this episode of The Jon & Marc Podcast, Jon Robinson and Marc Rioux break down…
The Jon and Marc PodcastWhat the Supreme Court, Uber MDL, and Paraquat Have in Common Right Now
After a slow start to 2026, the Mass Tort docket is heating up fast. In this week’s Tort Talk, Marc Rioux and Joe Fantini break down a packed slate of major…
The Jon and Marc PodcastJust Handle It: Stop Waiting, Start Executing with Harry Nalbandyan
What happens when a trial lawyer stops overthinking and just hits record? In this episode, Marc sits down in Los Angeles with Harry Nalbandyan, partner at…
The Jon and Marc PodcastJanuary 2026 Mass Tort Power Rankings: New #1, Big Trials Ahead
In the first episode of the year, Jon Robinson, Marc Rioux, and Joe Fantini kick off January Power Rankings, counting down the Top 10 mass torts your firm…
The Jon and Marc PodcastThe Truth About Asbestos Lawsuits: Hard Work, High Stakes, and Human Stories
Asbestos litigation is one of the most demanding areas of plaintiff law. The timelines are urgent. The clients are gravely ill. The competition is intense. And…
The Jon and Marc PodcastWhat Law Firm Leaders Learned in 2025 | Countdown the Top 10 Jon & Marc Podcast Moments of the Year
Which moments made people pause instead of scrolling? In this special edition of The Jon & Marc Podcast, we’re breaking down the 10 moments from 2025 that…
The Jon and Marc Podcast$40M Talc Verdict, $32M NEC Win & JPML Creates 2 New MDLs to Close 2025
Two major jury verdicts and several key rulings capped off a pivotal week in mass torts. In this edition of Tort Talk, Jon Robinson, Marc Rioux, and Joe…
The Jon and Marc PodcastPI Marketing That Works: Stand Out by Staying Real
Authenticity is becoming the strongest competitive advantage in personal injury marketing. In this episode, Jon sits down with Hunter Garnett to discuss how a…
The Jon and Marc PodcastRoundup’s Supreme Court Surprise… and a Tough Week for Zantac & Baby Food
The landscape continues to shift as Roundup edges closer to a Supreme Court ruling, while other major litigations face unexpected resistance. This week’s Tort…
The Jon and Marc PodcastConfessions of a Law Firm CMO: What Really Drives Growth
Behind every fast-growing law firm is a strategy most people never see. In this episode, Marc sits down with Trudy Emlaw, former CMO of Mike Morse Law Firm and…
The Jon and Marc PodcastMass Tort Power Rankings: Top 10 Cases to Watch Right Now (December 2025)
The Tort Talks Power Rankings return for December 2025, as Jon Robinson, Marc Rioux, and mass tort strategist Joe Fantini break down the Top 10 mass torts to…
The Jon and Marc PodcastTwo Generations, One Vision: How Farah & Farah Keeps Growing
Farah & Farah is one of the most recognizable law firms in the Southeast. But the real story isn’t the billboards or the advertising; it’s the family behind…
The Jon and Marc Podcast$2.1B Roundup Verdict Stands as J&J Talc Trial and Tylenol MDL Heat Up
The pressure points across mass torts continue to shift, and this week’s Tort Talk highlights major moves in Roundup, J&J Talc, Tylenol, and the emerging…
The Jon and Marc PodcastTexas AG Targets Roblox and Tylenol as Social Media and Uber Cases Advance
From social media to ridesharing, this week’s Tort Talk explores how platform accountability is becoming the defining story of 2026 litigation. Social Media…
The Jon and Marc PodcastScale Without Hiring: Supio’s Blueprint for the AI-Native Law Firm
AI isn’t another software tool. It’s an entirely new operating system for plaintiff law. This week on The Jon and Marc Podcast, Jerry Zhou (CEO of Supio)…
The Jon and Marc Podcast$185M Monsanto Verdict Reinstated and 74,000+ J&J Talc Cases as First Trial Begins
As we head into the final stretch of 2025, this week’s Tort Talks covers four major developments reshaping the mass tort landscape: Talc / J&J: The first post…
The Jon and Marc PodcastRoundup’s Endgame: Trial Dates, Venue Tactics, and Settlement Strategy
Roundup remains one of the most strategically complex mass torts in the country. For this MTMP edition of Tort Talk, Jon, Marc, and Joe sit down with Seth…
The Jon and Marc PodcastThe Anatomy of a Defective Device: Inside the Bard PowerPort MDL Strategy
When a medical device designed to save cancer patients has an alleged failure rate of up to 60% … you have a mass tort that could define the next two years of…
The Jon and Marc PodcastWhat’s Next for Hernia Mesh Litigation? With Kelsey Stokes & David Hobbs
In this special MTMP edition of Tort Talk, Jon Robinson and Joe Fantini sit down in Las Vegas Kelsey Stokes and David Hobbs — two of the lead voices shaping…
The Jon and Marc PodcastPillow Talk from MTMP: The Roblox Mass Tort Everyone’s Talking About
Live from MTMP at the Bellagio, this week’s Tort Talk dives into the case everyone’s buzzing about: Roblox. With an estimated 40 million real daily users (many…
The Jon and Marc PodcastSEO in 2025: Why Everything Changed (And What Law Firms Must Do Now)
SEO isn’t dead, but it’s completely different. In 2025, AI is deciding which law firms clients see first. In this episode, Jon Robinson and Marc Rioux break…
The Jon and Marc Podcast$966M Talc Verdict Rocks J&J as Zantac, NEC, and Depo See Major Shifts
This week’s Tort Talks covers the major rulings and developments shaping the mass tort landscape one week before MTMP: Talcum Powder: A $966 million verdict…
The Jon and Marc PodcastWhy Good Karma Builds Better Law Firms (60% Referral Strategy)
How do you scale a law firm from 2 lawyers to $12M in revenue without losing the local touch that built it? In this episode of The Jon & Marc Podcast, Managing…
The Jon and Marc PodcastMass Tort Power Rankings: Top 10 Cases to Watch Right Now (October 2025)
Introducing a new monthly series from The Jon & Marc Podcast — Tort Talks: Power Rankings. Jon Robinson, Marc Rioux, and mass tort expert Joe Fantini give you…
The Jon and Marc PodcastThe Mastermind Method: AI, Systems, and Scaling Your Law Firm
Ever wonder why some law firms scale predictably while others stay stuck? In this episode of The Jon & Marc Podcast, we sit down with “The Heavy Hitter”…
The Jon and Marc PodcastSocial Media Trial Greenlit, Roblox MDL Looms
This week's Tort Talks covers critical rulings and developments shaping the mass tort landscape: Social Media Addiction: Plaintiffs score a major victory as…
The Jon and Marc PodcastHow AI Creates 8-Figure Closing Arguments
Step inside one of Chicago’s most innovative trial law firms with Mike Bonamarte, managing partner at Levin & Perconti. In this episode of the Jon & Marc…
The Jon and Marc PodcastTylenol Autism Debate, Depo-Provera Fight & Suboxone Bellwether Prep
This week’s Tort Talks is packed with updates on the cases dominating mass tort litigation: Tylenol & Autism – FDA issues new pregnancy guidelines, boosting…
The Jon and Marc PodcastWhat Actually Works in Law Firm Marketing: Cassidy Lewis’s Marketing Playbook
How do you compete when national law firms flood your market with endless billboards and ad spend? According to Cassidy Lewis — CMO of Cooper Hurley Injury…
The Jon and Marc PodcastTalc Trial Set, Bair Hugger Progress, Baby Food MDL & Roblox Lawsuits
This week on Tort Talks, we cover four of the biggest developments in mass tort litigation: Talcum Powder – The first post-bankruptcy bellwether trial is set…
The Jon and Marc PodcastThe #1 Reason Law Firms Fail: Culture Misalignment (and How to Fix It)
On this episode of the Jon & Marc Podcast, we sit down with Susan Barfield — founder of Case Works and EVP of Culture at Angeion Group — to talk about why…
The Jon and Marc PodcastUber Assault Trial Could Reshape Litigation, Eli Lilly Fears Blindness Suits, Tylenol Autism Fight Isn’t Over
This week on Tort Talks, Joe Fantini joins Jon and Marc to break down the latest developments in mass tort litigation: Uber Sex Assault Trial: The first…
The Jon and Marc PodcastDigital PR Is the New SEO: Lessons for Law Firm Marketing
The Future of SEO, Branding, and AI for Law Firms & Marketers In this episode of the Jon & Marc Podcast, we sit down with Chima Mmeje — Senior Content…
The Jon and Marc PodcastMass Tort Update: Paraquat Settlements, AFFF Surge & Talc Talks
This week on Tort Talk, Joe Fantini joins Jon and Marc to cover major updates in mass tort litigation:Paraquat: With the first trial set for October in…
The Jon and Marc PodcastTort Talk 8/26/25 | Joe Fantini, Jon & Marc
This week on Tort Talk, Joe Fantini joins Jon and Marc to break down the biggest developments in mass tort litigation: AFFF firefighting foam MDL: Over 15,000…
The Jon and Marc PodcastKen Hardison Reveals The Future of Law Firm Growth | Jon & Marc Podcast | Episode 6
In this episode of the Jon & Marc Podcast, we sit down with Ken Hardison — the “Millionaire Maker for Lawyers” — to uncover the strategies that transform law…
The Jon and Marc PodcastTort Talk 8/19/25
In this week’s episode of Tort Talk, Joe Fantini joins Jon and Marc to break down the latest developments in mass tort litigation:Uber MDL: Over 2,500 cases…
The Jon and Marc PodcastThe Wild West of SEO is Dead. AI Killed It.
AI is rewriting the rules of SEO — and law firms need to pay attention. In this episode of the Jon & Marc Podcast, we break down Eli Schwartz’s article “AI…
- The Jon and Marc Podcast
Tort Talk Episode 8/12/25 | Joe Fantini, Jon & Marc
Joe talks RoundUp, Paraquat, Depo Provera, and Hair Relaxer in the news this week. Plus a personal announcement from Joe at the end of the episode! #torttalk…
- The Jon and Marc Podcast
Stop Losing Leads: The AI Tool Every Law Firm Needs | Terence Dohrmann | Jon & Marc Podcast
Law firm intake is broken—and AI might be the solution. In this episode of the Jon & Marc Podcast, we sit down with Terry Dohrmann, a legal tech veteran who…
- The Jon and Marc Podcast
Tort Talk 8/7/25
On the first episode of Tort Talk, Joe, Jon and Marc discuss mass tort litigation for Roundup, PFAS, Talc, Juvenile Detention, and GLP-1 Weight Loss (Ozempic)…
- The Jon and Marc Podcast
From Mark Lanier's #1 to Leading His Own Firm: Rick Meadow's Playbook | Episode 3: Rick Meadow | Jon & Marc Podcast
Today, we sit down with Richard Meadow, former Director of Mass Torts at The Lanier Law Firm and current Managing Partner of The Meadow Law Firm LLC. From his…
The Jon and Marc PodcastLaw Firm Intake: Fix Your Funnel, Boost Your Case Volume | Episode 2: Ted DeBettencourt | Jon & Marc
Are law firms focused too much on getting leads and not enough on what happens after? In Episode 2 of The Jon & Marc Podcast, Jon sits down with Ted…
- The Jon and Marc Podcast
Legal Conferences Are Broken - Here's Why | Episode 1: Dave Thomas
Legal Conferences Are Broken. Dave Thomas of Law Tigers tells us why.Welcome to the inaugural episode of The Jon & Marc Podcast, where we present marketing…