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Not All Business
Because at work, it's not all business. We're Heather Cooper & Blakely Graham, two rival tech CEOs turned friends, hosting real conversations about the messy reality of leadership. Think of us as Sex Ed for Leadership—discussing the topics and answering all the questions professionals are too afraid to ask, with occasional reality checks from our brilliant producer, Clay. Join us for serious insights. Slightly less serious hosts. New episodes every week!
Episodes
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How Do You Find Your Purpose When Work Feels Wrong?
You know your job isn't right for you anymore. But you need the paycheck, and you have no idea what comes next. How do you start moving? Lindsay Tjepkema…
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What If Saying I Don't Understand Makes You Better at Your Job?
How do you admit you don't understand something at work without feeling like you've just talked yourself out of the room? Rachel Downey, founder of Share Your…
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How Do You Show Up at Work When the News Hits Home?
You still have meetings. You still have deadlines. But a story in the news has hit close to home, and you're carrying it through all of them. Heather, Blakely…
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How to Have Difficult Conversations at Work When It's Your Friend
Your friend helped you land a vendor. Now your company wants to end the contract, and you get to deliver the news. Who's talking, the friend or the person…
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We Tried Pole Dancing. Looking in the Mirror Was the Hardest Part.
Heather and Blakely made a promise in Episode 1: after hearing how pole dancing changed Jamie Cole's confidence and leadership, they would try it themselves…
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Every Yes Is a No: How to Build a Business You Don't Hate
What happens when the business you built for freedom becomes another job you cannot escape? Michelle Kuan, founder of MLKMEDIA, joins Heather Cooper and…
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Hurry Up and Fail: How to Turn Mistakes Into Career Proof
What if your best career story is the one you keep trying to hide? Britt Hunter, leadership speaker and founder of Be The Exception Coaching, joins Heather…
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Your Career Is a Portfolio, Not a Job
Why is it so easy to offer help and so uncomfortable to ask for it? Melissa Moody, co-founder of Wednesday Women, joins Heather Cooper and Blakely Graham to…
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She's NOT a Top Performer: The Mistake Leaders Make
Your highest-producing employee refuses to delegate, never comes to team day, and has become the office joke. Is she still your top performer? In Part 2 of the…
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How to Know When It's Time to Leave Your Job
You built the career. You reached the milestone. So why does it no longer feel like enough? Fresh from recording Sticky Situations live at the Arcadia…
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Sticky Situations: The Hardest Parts of Leadership Nobody Prepares You For
Leadership sounds exciting until you're the one who has to deliver the bad news. What do you say when you have to fire someone and can't stop thinking about…
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Sticky Situations: The Unwritten Rules for Women at Work
There isn't an employee handbook for the awkward parts of work. What do you do when your boss hugs you every morning and you hate being hugged? What's the…
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She Was a Pro Tennis Player. She Never Mentioned It at Work.
Louise Allen spent over a decade in her career without telling a single coworker she'd played professional tennis. Eleven years on tour. Every Grand Slam…
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Is Wine Actually Heart Healthy? A Cardiologist Weighs In
Dr. Molly Ware is a cardiologist at Boulder Heart, and she's used to being one of very few women in the room. Nineteen years ago, she was the first woman in…
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You Don’t Have to Do It All (A VC Partner’s Unpopular Opinion)
Kathryn O'Day, Partner at Atlanta Ventures, spent five years building a personal brand in an industry that didn't expect her to. This week she tells us how she…
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We Took a Communication Test Together — The Results Exposed Everything
Most of us think our meetings fail because of bad ideas. They usually fail because of bad communication, and most people never learn the difference. This week…
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Dying At Your Desk? Why Comfort Is More Dangerous Than Failure
Most of us know the feeling: hitting snooze, going through the motions, wondering if this is really it. This week on Not All Business, transformational coach…
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The Hardest Job She's Ever Had Isn't On Her Resume
What if all those years you spent at home — the ones that don't fit neatly on a LinkedIn profile — were actually building the best resume in the room? Heidi…
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She's Teaching Women to Buy Houses Alone — And It's Working
Women have been legally allowed to get a mortgage for just about 50 years — and the gap that was created is still closing. This week on Not All Business, we…
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My Best Employee Got a Better Offer — What Did I Do Wrong?
When you can't give someone what they're asking for — and you know you might lose them — what do you actually do? And what happens when two great employees…
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She Lost 115 Pounds, Got Abandoned By Her Mom & Still Became the Toughest Person in the Room
What do you do when the person who was supposed to love you unconditionally just... doesn't show up? If you're Kait Dinunzio, you build yourself from scratch —…
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Your Mission, Vision, and Values Are Not the Same Thing
Most businesses skip the foundation and wonder why everything feels muddy. Mission. Vision. Values. Purpose. Turns out there's a big difference between writing…
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Frozen at Work: What to Do When Someone Crosses the Line
Boundaries at work are complicated. Setting them is hard. Getting them crossed is harder. And knowing what to do when something happens faster than your brain…
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The Problem With Imposter Syndrome
What happens when the very thing that got you to the top — perfectionism, over-preparation, the need to prove yourself in every room — becomes the thing you…
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The Real Reason Your House Is Always a Mess
Your space isn't just where you live. It's shaping how you think, how you lead, and how you feel the moment you walk in the door. This week on Not All…
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The CEO Who Went From IPO to Pie
What does it actually take to say yes when you're not qualified, not expected, and not invited? This week on Not All Business, we sat down with Ginger Graham —…
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Win The Room vs Lose The Room (Do This and You'll Win Every Time)
Most leaders think they're communicating. Their teams think otherwise. The gap isn't about words. It's about environment. This week on Not All Business, we sat…
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Try This One Thing To Become A Better Listener
You think listening is about trying harder. It's not. It's about building the right habit. And Allison O'Brien is here to show you how. This week on Not All…
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The Woman Who Built Women's Sports From NOTHING
At 23, Amy Snider stood up in a room full of men and corrected the record on women's soccer. Nobody asked her to. She did it anyway. This week on Not All…
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Sticky Situations: Bad References, Broken Accountability, and Kale
What do you do when your manager asks you to be their reference and the nicest thing you can honestly say is... fine? This week on Not All Business, it's…
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The Truth About GLP-1s, From Someone Who Was There From the Start
Everyone's talking about GLP-1s. But do they know how they actually work? This week on Not All Business, we sit down with Dr. Linda Shapiro Manning, a…
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AI Is Changing Hiring Faster Than You Think
AI is reshaping hiring faster than most people realize, and if you're job searching right now, you need to know the rules of the new game. This week on Not All…
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Casual Friday: Layoffs, Dream Boards, and a CEO Who Said What?!
Three new sticky situations. Zero corporate spin. This week on Not All Business, it's Casual Friday — which means Clay's running the show and Heather and…
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Stop Pitch Slapping and Start Connecting
What if the most powerful revenue strategy isn't your CRM, your cold outreach, or your pipeline velocity — it's the relationships you already have, but keep…
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Your Nervous System Is Talking. Are You Listening?
Are you waking up at 3am and can't explain why? You're not alone — and it's not random. This week on Not All Business, we welcome Kristie Steinbock…
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Dating Apps, Dress Codes, & Firing People (Casual Friday Sticky Situations)
What does "business casual" actually mean? Apparently, nobody knows — and that's only the beginning. On this Casual Friday episode of Not All Business, Blakely…
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Stories Over Prompts | Why Leadership Storytelling Beats AI Every Time
In the age of AI, authentic lived experience is your competitive advantage. This week on Not All Business, we welcome Julie Lancaster, CEO of Lancaster…
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Stop Guessing! Social Media Strategies That Work
Most businesses are throwing content into the wind and hoping something sticks. But what if your social media strategy is moving you sideways instead of…
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Networking Without the Ick: How to Build Real Connections
Ever wonder why networking feels so... performative? That's because most people are doing it all wrong. This week on Not All Business, we welcome Baily…
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Casual Friday: Embarrassing Moments, Lies, and Impossible Feedback
It's Casual Friday—which means we're answering the sticky situations and workplace dilemmas you're too afraid to ask about anywhere else. Today we're tackling…
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Toxic Boss? We Got You.
We hit the top 1% of podcasts! 🎉 To celebrate our 21st episode, we brought back our celebrity guest star Lynda Harvey to tackle your messiest workplace…
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Why Being Human at Work Isn't Optional Anymore
Why do toxic leaders keep getting promoted when everyone knows they're toxic? And why do we treat being human at work like it's optional? It’s the Heathers…
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Stop Trying to Change Your Behavior (Do This Instead)
Ever watch yourself repeat the same pattern and think, "Why can't I just stop?" Here's why: You're focused on the wrong thing. In this episode, Lindsey…
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Christmas Special: What We're Leaving Behind & Bringing Into 2025
It's our Christmas episode! Instead of bringing you a guest, we're bringing you something different—a moment to pause, reflect, and share what we're leaving…
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Married to the CEO: Husbands Tell All
What's it really like being married to a CEO? What workplace dilemmas make it home? We finally let the husbands on the show. Scott Graham and Nic Widhalm join…
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Building Culture: The Uncomfortable, Dirty Work That Actually Makes It Stick
Building culture—but not the fluffy, feel-good version. We're getting into the practical, uncomfortable workplace dilemmas, and dirty real talk about work that…
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The 4 Pillars of Trust Every Leader Needs
It's a trust masterclass at Not All Business! Executive coach Carolyn Keyes—the same coach who changed Jamie Cole's life in our very first episode AND…
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How to Survive Your Thanksgiving - Workplace Dilemmas turned Family Dilemmas
Why is Thanksgiving the ultimate leadership stress test? In this episode, Heather and Blakely break down why the holiday season exposes every leadership skill…
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How to Survive a Bad Manager (Or Stop Being One) - Workplace Dilemmas
Why do bad managers exist? Lynda Harvey—the Manager Guru who's built a community of over 587k followers across Instagram and TikTok—breaks down why most people…
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The Truth About Invisible Disabilities at Work & other Workplace Dilemmas
Jody Donovan defended her PhD at the height of her intellectual capacity. Then a sledding accident on a closed ski slope in Breckenridge changed everything…
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Your Stickiest Situations and Workplace Dilemmas — Answered on This Episode
Welcome to the stickiest Casual Friday yet. Producer Clay flips the script and puts Blakely and Heather in the hot seat to answer YOUR real workplace dilemmas…
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Quiet Cracking: Why Burnout Now Hits at Age 25
It's a milestone episode! We made it to Episode 10—putting us in the top 10% of all podcasts. To celebrate, Blakely and Heather tackle a phenomenon that's…
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Why Women Don't Talk About Money
Women are about to inherit and control unprecedented wealth—$34 trillion by 2030, to be exact. But here's the problem: we still can't talk about it. Not about…
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Creating a Life You Don't Have to Heal From
What if the smartest career move you could make is intentionally climbing DOWN the corporate ladder? In this episode, Blakely and Heather sit down with Alden…
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Safe Toilets, Fake Intros, and Why Nothing Good Happens After Midnight
What happens when a nurse practitioner gets quoted $1 million for software and told "that's cute" when she says she'll build it herself? She teaches herself to…
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What Got You Here Won't Get You There
What happens when the hustle that got you promoted becomes the obstacle keeping you from leading well? Brand strategist Cindy Frigard has spent decades helping…
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The Real Story Behind Not All Business
It’s Casual Friday at Not All Business! Producer Clay takes over and turns the spotlight on Blakely and Heather, who share their personal stories and the path…
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How to Give Feedback Without the Drama
What happens when leaders are so overwhelmed they default to "lazy leadership" behaviors? Julie Holunga, fractional leadership and culture partner, has seen it…
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When Your Boss Fails the Values Test
What happens when the company values posted on the wall don't match the leadership walking the halls? Corporate communications veteran Molly Keveney spent…
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From Self-Doubt to Self-Advocacy
What happens when your LinkedIn profile photo is a cropped wedding shot and your resume reads like a grocery list of job duties? Resume writing expert and…