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Lawyers Who Learn
Lawyers Who Learn, explores how attorneys’ engagement in lifelong learning fuels their growth. Join us to uncover these journeys and gain insights for your legal career.
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#112 "Let Them Say No": Building Business Development on Weak Ties
Jason Levin wrote an entire book challenging a simple truth: we say "keep in touch" but really mean goodbye, so what if lawyers actually executed on those…
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#111 Cold Calls, Courage, and the Big Law Pivot That Changed Everything
For years working in Big Law business development at firms like Pillsbury, Sherman & Sterling (now A&O Shearman), and McDermott Will & Emery, Megan Senese…
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#110 From Stage Rejection to Lawyer Development
Tony Gerdes taught his students something unforgettable: "I can't steer a parked car." The metaphor captures his entire philosophy about professional…
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#109 The Attorney Who Resisted Coaches, Books, and Telling Her Own Story — Until All Three Changed Her
What happens when someone who loved reading for pleasure but actively avoided leadership books finally cracks one open — and realizes she'd been doing…
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#108 From Japanese Robots to Three Legal Tech Exits
Steven Harber's path to legal tech started in an unexpected place: selling Japanese robots to automotive factories in 1985. Fresh out of Bucknell with an East…
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#107 The PD Leader Who Brings Humanity to Legal Leadership
Matthew Galando never intended to build a 23-year career at one law firm. As a college student interning at K&L Gates, he quickly realized that while…
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#106 - The Lawyer Who Went Back to School to Learn How to Be an Entrepreneur
At 40, Chris Keefer had everything lawyers are supposed to want: partner track, jury trial wins, Indiana Supreme Court experience. He also had something else—a…
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#105 - The Marketing Executive Who Left $500M Brands for Law School after 30
Stacey had it all—managing $300-500 million brands as a marketing and advertising executive, traveling the world, leading teams. Then in her mid-thirties, she…
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#42 Reinventing Legal Learning: Lessons from SkillBurst’s Founder
In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, has a conversation with Steve Gluckman, a pioneer in legal e-learning who recently sold…
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#104 - The Accountant Who Found Her Calling in Lawyers' Biggest Blind Spot
Amy Woods failed her very first IOLTA audit. Fresh out of school with a master's in accounting, she thought she had everything in order for her lawyer client…
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#103 The Law Librarian Redesigning Legal Education From the Inside
Kenton Brice sits at the center of what he calls "a massive Venn diagram"—law libraries, legal technology, higher education, and the practicing bar—and from…
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#102 The Three-Day Offsite That's Redefining Associate Training
When Jennifer Rakstad's firm surveyed their associates, the feedback was clear: traditional training wasn't having the impact they wanted. As Senior Manager of…
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#101 ADHD: The Hidden Disability Driving Lawyers to Burnout
Sarah Ennor spent years as a securities lawyer at major banks, excelling at sophisticated legal work but challenged by corporate politics and what she…
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#100 The Lawyer Who Reimagined Success Through Career Transition
Yeve Chitiga immigrated to the United States at sixteen with clear goals shaped by hope and determination: college, law school, becoming an attorney. She…
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#99 - The 900 Day Gap Between Quitting BigLaw and Success
Noah Waisberg left Weil Gotshal without a company, without a plan, and without knowing if the technology would work. For two and a half years, the AI kept…
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#98 - The Attorney Who Wrote Her Own Dream Job Description
Miriam Benor convinced her firm to let her create a role that didn't exist: Director of Attorney Coaching at Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP, where she…
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#97 The Only Woman in the Room: From Engineering to AI Startup Founder
Virginia Driver spent 36 years as a patent attorney in a profession she entered through a loophole, hired only because no men had applied. Today, she's…
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#96 She's Never Tasted Coffee But Energizes 400 Attorneys Across America
Nichole Velasquez has never tasted coffee, not since that childhood moment when her sister convinced her to try it and she spit it out all over the kitchen…
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#95 Broadcasting on TikTok: How One Attorney Conquered Imposter Syndrome
Jennifer Nelson Flynn never expected to become a TikTok creator. As a fractional general counsel at Dorf Nelson with inhouse counsel and chief privacy officer…
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#94 Mastering Visibility: The Career Skill Nobody Teaches Lawyers
Visibility is not a personality trait. It’s a career skill—and one most lawyers are never taught. Paula T. Edgar, CEO of PGE Consulting Group LLC, helps…
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#93 - The Kodak Moment Coming for Big Law
A year ago, Bjarne Tellmann walked away from three decades as a lawyer, including 17 years as General Counsel at companies like Haleon and Pearson. Today, he's…
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#92 - From Stoic Philosophy to AI Strategy: Building a Modern Law Practice
Kellam T. Parks never planned to become an entrepreneur. After walking away from practicing law at 26 to wait tables while his mother battled cancer, he…
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#91 - How Operation Peter Pan from Cuba Shaped an Attorney
Alexander Almazan almost walked away from practicing law entirely. After bouncing between three firms in five years, the first-generation Cuban-American…
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#89 - The Seven-Month Silent Retreat That Created a New Career Path
Jon Krop made a decision that would terrify most lawyers: he quit his tech job at 30 and spent seven months in silent meditation at a teacher's center in…
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#88 - Tracking Fortune 100 Clients: The Art of Legal Intelligence
As Director of Client Intelligence at Sidley Austin, Rachel Shields Williams transforms messy relationship data into strategic intelligence, tracking how…
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#87 - The Attorney Who Treats ADHD as a Competitive Advantage
Julie Remer spent years as a practicing attorney secretly struggling with ADHD she didn't know she had. Then her five-year-old daughter's diagnosis sparked a…
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#86 - The Dietitian Teaching Lawyers to Fuel Performance, Not Just Bodies
Amy Goodson could memorize entire speeches as a child and loved performing on stage—skills that seemed destined for communication work. She was also a dancer…
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#85 - The Two-Workout System: Training Body and Mind in Legal Practice
Jonathan Schutrum's intellectual transformation began during COVID lockdown on nightly walks with his dog through Buffalo's winter streets. While the world…
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#84 - The Managing Partner Who Traded $48 Million Verdicts for Yoga Mats
Karen Munoz spent nearly a decade at a personal injury firm, rising from receptionist to managing partner while handling wrongful death cases and winning…
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#83 The "Cheat Code" to Upskilling 100,000 Lawyers on AI
Colin Lachance's journey began at age 10, when a fateful summer camp experience introduced him to law as society's "cheat code." That early exposure launched a…
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#82 The Integration Work Lawyers Need Before AI’s Disruption
Clarissa Dominguez couldn’t shake the feeling that traditional therapy was keeping her stuck. Despite years of Western treatment for borderline personality…
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#81 Laugh, Build, Run! - Discussing Workflows, Legal Tech Craziness and Ironman Triathlons
Michael Grupp started his legal career at Freshfields and Hogan Lovells before founding Bryter, a workflow automation platform he calls "Lego for lawyers."…
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#80 If You Don't Talk About Yourself, No One Else Will: Breaking Free from Professional Silence
Marc W. Halpert encountered the same paralyzing problem across professions: all struggling to talk about themselves despite extraordinary credentials. The…
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#79 Six Months Without Pay Led to a Multi-Million Dollar Exit
Fifteen years ago, Richart Ruddie survived on rice and frozen shrimp while working six months without pay, taking out negative equity from ATMs just to get by…
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#78 The Professional Development Director with a 1,700+ Day Practice
Johnna Story has spent three decades at Finnegan—a remarkably rare tenure in today's legal landscape. But her longevity isn't just about staying; it's about…
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#77 Playing the Infinite Game in Legal Tech's AI Revolution
Jack Newton runs Clio with 2,000 employees and over $300 million in annual recurring revenue, yet he describes his CEO role as "a new job every quarter." His…
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#76 Grow Strong: The NICU Lesson She Brings to Talent Development
Four months in a NICU changes you. For Kathryn Marquez, Global Director of Learning and Development at Bryan Cave Leighton Paisner (BCLP), those 120 days…
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#75 “I Chase Being Uncomfortable"—The Pharmacist-Lawyer's Chaos Formula
Darshan Kulkarni doesn't believe in meditation, doesn’t have time to read books, and thrives on chaos—yet he's earned six degrees by age 25, founded a law…
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#74 Measuring Soul vs Toll: A New Framework for Career Decisions
Anusia Gillespie hasn't applied for a single job since law school, yet she's moved through seven organizations in ten years—all by design. She played pivotal…
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#73 She Was Born Into Law. Panic Attacks Almost Ended It
Emily Logan Stedman was having full-blown panic attacks on family vacations. Despite making partner track at a prestigious Milwaukee firm—Teach for America…
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#72 Citizens Are Not Educated for Legal; It’s Time for Lawyers to Take Action
Most law students can argue complex cases but struggle to explain basic legal rights every citizen should know. Marisa Monteiro Borsboom noticed this…
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#71 The Real Reason Your Relationships Aren't Transforming Into Clients
What if the reason you struggle with transforming your professional relationships into clients is that you're missing a skill you were never taught? Yuliya…
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#70 Five Toxic Myths Trapping Lawyers—And How Greek Gods Break Them
Scott Mason spent 25 years building exactly the legal career everyone expected: Columbia Law School graduate, general counsel to the nation's largest domestic…
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#69 The Meditation Practice That Built a Speaking and Legal Career
Claire E. Parsons made equity partner at her first firm, yet found herself paralyzed by a lifetime of fear and perfectionism. Then postpartum depression forced…
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#68 The Midlife Question Every Successful Leader Fears to Ask
"Are my best days behind me, or are my best days ahead of me?" It's the question that haunts successful professionals in midlife—one they often can't even…
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#67 Teaching Lawyers the One Skill Law School Never Covered
When Jessica left her six-figure government position at the SEC Division of Enforcement, she discovered something startling: she wasn’t the only highly…
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#66 From Coding at 11 to Running the 'Oscars of Legal Innovation’
Nine years ago, when Tom Martin talked about chatbots and artificial intelligence to lawyers, they dismissed it, saying it sounded like a science fiction…
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#65 From Federal Prosecutor to 25-Attorney Firm: The $50K Gamble That Paid Off
Eric Kanefsky took an 85% pay cut to leave BigLaw for the U.S. Attorney's Office, then borrowed $50,000 to start his own firm—transforming from government…
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#64 From Martial Arts to Legal Tech: The Power of Intentional Removal
What if true transformation isn't about adding more to your life, but deliberately removing what's holding you back? Keith Lee, a partner at Big Law Investor…
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#63 Two Midlife Crises and a Ranch: How One Lawyer Reinvented Himself as a Cybersecurity Expert
What happens when a successful attorney has not one, but two midlife crises and emerges as a leading voice in cybersecurity? Yan Ross, editor-in-chief of Cyber…
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#62 The Training Program That's Changing Big Law
In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, interviews Caitlin Vaughn, Managing Director of Learning and Professional Development at…
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#61 AI Is Forcing Lawyers to Rethink Who They Are
In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, interviews Anastasia Boyko, Legal Futurist and Product Evangelist at Filevine and host…
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#60 Why Law Firms Finally Embrace Personality Training
In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, reconnects with Rob Toomey, co-founder of TypeCoach, for a wide-ranging conversation…
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#59 The Foundation You Don't See: A Lawyer's Inner Work
In this deeply personal episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, interviews Somya Kaushik, Associate General Counsel at Mitratech, who…
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#58 Ancient Stoicism Meets Modern Legal Practice
In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, interviews Maria Yiannitsarakos, a practicing real estate attorney turned confidence…
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#57 Why Law School's Third Year Should Be Eliminated
In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, interviews Jordan Furlong, founder of Law21 and one of the legal profession's most…
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#56 From Classrooms to Courtrooms: AI Adoption Reality
In this fascinating episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, interviews Conor Grennan, Chief AI Architect at NYU Stern and founder of AI…
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#55 From 10,000 Doors to 25 Keynote Topics
In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, interviews Kendra Brodin, whose unique background as an attorney, social worker, and…
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#54 How Being Ahead in Cloud Computing Changed Everything
In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David interviews Niki Black, one of legal tech's most influential voices and employee number one at MyCase. This…
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#53 From Plane Crash to Rainmaker Coach
In this compelling episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David interviews Steve Fretzin, one of the legal industry's most respected business development coaches…