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The Road to Accountable AI
Artificial intelligence is changing business, and the world. How can you navigate through the hype to understand AI's true potential, and the ways it can be implemented effectively, responsibly, and safely? Wharton Professor and Chair of Legal Studies and Business Ethics Kevin Werbach has analyzed emerging technologies for thirty years, and created one of the first business school course on legal and ethical considerations of AI in 2016. He interviews the experts and executives building…
Episodes
The Road to Accountable AIDave Trier (ModelOp): Turning AI Policies into Workflows
Kevin Werbach speaks with Dave Trier, CEO of ModelOp, about what it takes to run AI governance at the scale of a Fortune 500 company. Trier explains how…
The Road to Accountable AILawrence Snapp (TrustScale): Fighting AI Hallucination
Kevin Werbach speaks with Lawrence Snapp, CEO of TrustScale, about why hallucinations remain a stubborn problem and what it takes to verify AI outputs against…
The Road to Accountable AIJoshua Tan (Current AI): The Honda Civic Model of AI
Kevin Werbach speaks with Joshua Tan, CTO of Current AI, about the case for public AI: The idea that AI can and should be public infrastructure, like highways…
The Road to Accountable AIBrett Levenson (Moonbounce): The Best AI Security System is the One People Will Use
Kevin Werbach speaks with Brett Levenson, co-founder and CEO of Moonbounce, about building real-time controls that make AI systems follow the policies…
The Road to Accountable AISharon Goldman (Ground Level AI): AI as It Meets the Real World
Kevin Werbach speaks with AI journalist Sharon Goldman about her new venture, Ground Level AI. Goldman describes taking on the AI beat at VentureBeat in 2022…
The Road to Accountable AIRobert Levitan (Ethical Tech Project): Unlimited Intelligence, But Where's the Wisdom?
Kevin Werbach speaks with Robert Levitan, Chair of the Ethical Tech Project, about what the early internet can teach companies deploying AI today. Levitan, who…
The Road to Accountable AIHarish Peri (Okta): When the Thing Accessing Your Systems Has a Brain
In the final episode of our series on governing AI agents, Kevin Werbach speaks with Harish Peri, SVP and General Manager for AI Security at Okta. Peri frames…
The Road to Accountable AILogan Kelly (Waxell): The Accidental Agent Governance Company
Logan Kelly never set out to build an AI governance solution. Waxell spun out of CallSine, an AI-native sales engagement platform, when the team realized that…
The Road to Accountable AINadav Cornberg (Eve Security): Interrogating Agents Before They Act
Kevin Werbach speaks with Nadav Cornberg, co-founder and CEO of Eve Security, about securing agentic AI where it counts: at the moment an agent actually does…
The Road to Accountable AIVenkat Siva (Compfly): Governing Agents at the Execution Boundary
Kevin Werbach speaks with Venkat Siva, co-founder and CEO of CompFly AI, about why governing autonomous agents requires a fundamentally different approach than…
The Road to Accountable AIMunmun De Choudhury (Georgia Tech): Conversational AI and Mental Health
Conversational AI is increasingly being used as a source of emotional support, even though general-purpose chatbots were never designed for that purpose…
The Road to Accountable AIEmre Kazim (Holistic AI): Why AI Governance is Like Cybersecurity
Holistic AI was one of the first companies built specifically to govern, audit, and red team AI systems. As co-founder and co-CEO Emre Kazim explains, its…
The Road to Accountable AIRumman Chowdhury (Humane Intelligence): The Need for Discernment
Kevin Werbach speaks with long-time responsible AI leader Rumman Chowdhury the current environment, in which substantive standards and oversight efforts for AI…
The Road to Accountable AIVar Shankar: AI Governance for Smaller Organizations
Var Shankar makes the case that most AI governance guidance is built for large, sophisticated, multifunctional global enterprises — and that this leaves out…
The Road to Accountable AIKatie Fowler (Thomson Reuters Foundation): How 3,000 Companies Approach AI Governance
Good data about how companies are implementing AI governance programs is essential both for organizations to benchmark their efforts, and for observers to…
The Road to Accountable AIHenry Ajder, Latent Space Advisory: Deepfakes and the Crisis of Digital Trust
AI-generated deepfakes are exploding in volume and quality, posing frightening challenges for public discourse, security, safety, and more. My guest, Henry…
The Road to Accountable AIPhil Dawson, Armilla AI: Insurance for AI Risks
Could a private insurance market play a significant role in compensating for AI-related harms and incentivizing companies to engage in more effective AI…
The Road to Accountable AIWalter Haydock, StackAware: In Search Of AI Governance Certification
Walter Haydock draws a direct line from military risk management to the enterprise AI challenge. His argues that organizations need to stop doing "math with…
The Road to Accountable AIRicha Kaul, Complyance: Asking the Right Questions
Richa Kaul breaks down the AI risk landscape for enterprises, and argues that the key to managing all of them is resisting the urge to sensationalize. Kaul…
The Road to Accountable AIMichael Horowitz, UPenn: Governing AI That's Designed to Kill
How AI is, could, and shouldn't be used in military and other national security contexts is a topic of growing importance. Recent conflicts on the battlefield…
The Road to Accountable AITanvi Singh, Ekta AI: The Case for Sovereign AI
Tanvi Singh draws on over two decades of building and governing AI systems inside global banks to make a provocative case: you cannot be accountable for…
The Road to Accountable AIRay Eitel-Porter, Co-Author of Governing the Machine: The Confidence to Use AI
Ray Eitel-Porter, former Global Lead for Responsible AI at Accenture and co-author of the new book, Governing the Machine, discusses how enterprises can move…
The Road to Accountable AIAlexandru Voica: Responsible AI Video
Alexandru Voica, Head of Corporate Affairs and Policy at Synthesia, discusses how the world's largest enterprise AI video platform has approached trust and…
The Road to Accountable AIBlake Hall: Safeguarding Identity in the AI Era
In this episode, Blake Hall, CEO of ID.me, discusses the massive escalation in online fraud driven by generative AI, noting that attacks have evolved from…
The Road to Accountable AIMitch Kapor: AI Gap-Closing
Legendary entrepreneur and investor Mitch Kapor draws on his decades of experience to argue that while AI represents a massive wave of disruptive innovation…
The Road to Accountable AIBrad Carson: Sharing AI's Bounty
Former Congressman and Pentagon official Brad Carson discusses his organization, Americans for Responsible Innovation (ARI), which seeks to bridge the gap…
The Road to Accountable AIOliver Patel: Sharing Frameworks for AI Governance
Oliver Patel has built a sizeable online following for his social media posts and Substack about enterprise AI governance, using clever acronyms and visual…
The Road to Accountable AIRavit Dotan: Rethinking AI Ethics
Ravit Dotan argues that the primary barrier to accountable AI is not a lack of ethical clarity, but organizational roadblocks. While companies often understand…
The Road to Accountable AITrey Causey: Is Responsible AI Failing?
Kevin Werbach speaks with Trey Causey about the precarious state of the responsible AI (RAI) field. Causey argues that while the mission is critical, the…
The Road to Accountable AICaroline Louveaux: Trust is Mission Critical
Kevin Werbach speaks with Caroline Louveaux, Chief Privacy, AI, and Data Responsibility Officer at Mastercard, about what it means to make trust mission…
The Road to Accountable AICameron Kerry: From Gridlock to Governance?
Cameron Kerry, Distinguished Visiting Fellow at the Brookings Institution and former Acting US Secretary of Commerce, joins Kevin Werbach to explore the…
The Road to Accountable AIDerek Leben: All of Us are Going to Become Ethicists
Carnegie Mellon business ethics professor Derek Leben joins Kevin Werbach to trace how AI ethics evolved from an early focus on embodied systems—industrial…
The Road to Accountable AIHeather Domin: From Principles to Practice
Kevin Werbach interviews Heather Domin, Global Head of the Office of Responsible AI and Governance at HCLTech. Domin reflects on her path into AI governance…
The Road to Accountable AIDean Ball: The World is Going to Be Totally Different in 10 Years
Kevin Werbach interviews Dean Ball, Senior Fellow at the Foundation for American Innovation and one of the key shapers of the Trump Administration's approach…
The Road to Accountable AIDavid Hardoon: You Can't Outsource Accountability
Kevin Werbach interviews David Hardoon, Global Head of AI Enablement at Standard Chartered Bank and former Chief Data Officer of the Monetary Authority of…
The Road to Accountable AIKarine Perset: Building Bridges for Global AI Governance
Kevin Werbach interviews Karine Perset, Acting Head of the OECD's AI and Emerging Technology Division, about the global effort to shape responsible AI. Perset…
The Road to Accountable AIDJ Patil: AI's Steering Wheel Challenge
Kevin Werbach interviews DJ Patil, the first U.S. Chief Data Scientist under the Obama Administration, about the evolving role of AI in government, healthcare…
The Road to Accountable AIKay Firth-Butterfield: Using AI Wisely
Kevin Werbach interviews Kay Firth-Butterfield about how responsible AI has evolved from a niche concern to a global movement. As the world's first Chief AI…
The Road to Accountable AIDale Cendali: How Courts (and Maybe Congress!) Will Determine AI's Copyright Fate
Kevin Werbach interviews Dale Cendali, one of the country's leading intellectual property (IP) attorneys, to discuss how courts are grappling with copyright…
The Road to Accountable AIBrenda Leong: Building AI Law Amid Legal Uncertainty
Kevin Werbach interviews Brenda Leong, Director of the AI division at boutique technology law firm ZwillGen, to explore how legal practitioners are adapting to…
The Road to Accountable AIShameek Kundu: AI Testing and the Quest for Boring Predictability
Kevin Werbach interviews Shameek Kundu, Executive Director of AI Verify Foundation, to explore how organizations can ensure AI systems work reliably in…
The Road to Accountable AIUthman Ali: Responsible AI in a Safety Culture
Host Kevin Werbach interviews Uthman Ali, Global Responsible AI Officer at BP, to delve into the complexities of implementing responsible AI practices within a…
The Road to Accountable AIKaren Hao: Is Imperial AI Inevitable?
Kevin Werbach interviews journalist and author Karen Hao about her new book Empire of AI, which chronicles the rise of OpenAI and the broader implications of…
The Road to Accountable AIJaime Banks: How Users Perceive AI Companions
AI companion applications, which create interactive personas for one-on-one conversations, are incredibly popular. However, they raise a number of challenging…
The Road to Accountable AIKelly Trindel: AI Governance Across the Enterprise? All in a Day's Work
In this episode, Kevin Werbach interviews Kelly Trindel, Head of Responsible AI at Workday. Although Trindel's team is housed within Workday's legal…
The Road to Accountable AIDavid Weinberger: How AI Challenges Our Fundamental Ideas
Professor Werbach interviews David Weinberger, author of several books and a long-time deep thinker on internet trends, about the broader implications of AI on…
The Road to Accountable AIAshley Casovan: From Privacy Practice to AI Governance
Professor Werbach talks with Ashley Casavan, Managing Director of the AI Governance Center at the IAPP, the global association for privacy professional and…
The Road to Accountable AILauren Wagner: The Potential of Private AI Governance
Kevin Werbach interviews Lauren Wagner, a builder and advocate for market-driven approaches to AI governance. Lauren shares insights from her experiences at…
The Road to Accountable AIMedha Bankhwal and Michael Chui: Implementing AI Trust
Kevin Werbach speaks with Medha Bankhwal and Michael Chui from QuantumBlack, the AI division of the global consulting firm McKinsey. They discuss how…
The Road to Accountable AIEric Bradlow: AI Goes to Business School
Kevin Werbach speaks with Eric Bradlow, Vice Dean of AI & Analytics at Wharton. Bradlow highlights the transformative impacts of AI from his perspective as an…
The Road to Accountable AIWendy Gonzalez: Managing the Humans in the AI Loop
This week, Kevin Werbach is joined by Wendy Gonzalez of Sama, to discuss the intersection of human judgment and artificial intelligence. Sama provides data…
The Road to Accountable AIJessica Lennard: AI Regulation as Part of a Growth Agenda
The UK is in a unique position in the global AI landscape. It is home to important AI development labs and corporate AI adopters, but its regulatory regime is…
The Road to Accountable AITim O'Reilly: The Values of AI Disclosure
In this episode, Kevin speaks with with the influential tech thinker Tim O'Reilly, founder and CEO of O'Reilly Media and popularizer of terms such as open…
The Road to Accountable AIAlice Xiang: Connecting Research and Practice for Responsible AI
Join Professor Werbach in his conversation with Alice Xiang, Global Head of AI Ethics at Sony and Lead Research Scientist at Sony AI. With both a research and…
The Road to Accountable AIKrishna Gade: Observing AI Explainability...and Explaining AI Observability
Kevin Werbach speaks with Krishna Gade, founder and CEO of Fiddler AI, on the the state of explainability for AI models. One of the big challenges of…
The Road to Accountable AIAngela Zhang: What's Really Happening with AI (and AI Governance) in China
This week, Professor Werbach is joined by USC Law School professor Angela Zhang, an expert on China's approach to the technology sector. China is both one of…
The Road to Accountable AIShae Brown: AI Auditing Gets Real
Professor Werbach speaks with Shea Brown, founder of AI auditing firm BABL AI. Brown discusses how his work as an astrophysicist led him to and machine…
The Road to Accountable AIKevin Bankston: The Value of Open AI Models
This week, Professor Werbach is joined by Kevin Bankston, Senior Advisor on AI Governance for the Center for Democracy & Technology, to discuss the benefits…
The Road to Accountable AILara Abrash: How Organizations Can Meet the AI Challenge
In this episode, Professor Kevin Werbach sits with Lara Abrash, Chair of Deloitte US. Lara and Kevin discuss the complexities of integrating generative AI…
The Road to Accountable AIAdam Thierer: Where AI Regulation Can Go Wrong
Professor Werbach speaks with Adam Thierer, senior fellow for Technology and Innovation at R Street Institute. Adam and Kevin highligh developments in AI…