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Complicated Conversations
Complicated Conversations is the podcast for small and medium business owners who are done pretending it's all straightforward. Hosted by Jodie Horgan — founder, business coach, and the person behind The Complicated Coach and Complicated Co. — this is the honest conversation about what building a business actually looks like. The decisions that keep you up at night. The moments you nearly quit. The things nobody tells you at the start. No fluff. No highlight reel. Just real conversations with…
Episodes
Complicated ConversationsReputation, referrals and recognising your skills with Richard James Rogers
Have you ever been so used to doing something that you stopped seeing it as a skill? Richard James Rogers had been teaching and had written a book, but still…
Complicated ConversationsStarting a business together | Rachel and Kris from Empowr HR
What happens when you leave the corporate world and start a business together? Rachel and Kris, directors of Empowr HR, join Jodie Horgan to talk about their…
Complicated ConversationsBrand — When the business is you: Lucy Nash, Do The Thing
Lucy Nash left PR, sold her half of an agency after her first baby, turned her house into a shoot location and a 60k Instagram account, and then — after six…
Complicated ConversationsStructure — The First Year on the High Street, with Caroline Creba
A year ago Caroline Creba spent her life savings opening a bespoke jewellery showroom on Knowle High Street — with gold at a record high and the economy in a…
Complicated ConversationsCar Conversations: Ep 4: Growth — When Did You Last Review Your Pricing?
A loaf of bread goes up every year. Your prices should too. A short one from the car on why raising prices feels harder when it’s your own business, the small…
Complicated ConversationsCar Conversations: Ep 3: Growth, Selling & Imposter Syndrome
This week's Car Conversations is about Growth, and specifically about the moment imposter syndrome shows up around money. Jodie talks honestly about always…
Complicated ConversationsPeople — Imposter syndrome: getting away with it, with Aggy.
Aggy has been self-employed for exactly ten years, has good self-esteem, and still dreams about someone turning up to tell her she has to move out of her own…
Complicated ConversationsCar Conversations: E2 Stop selling, start educating
This week's car ramble is about sales — and why so many founders are brilliant at selling everyone else, and terrible at selling themselves. We don't think…
Complicated ConversationsCar Conversations: E1: Why I'm doing these
I spend a lot of time on the road between client visits, so I'm starting to record these bite-sized episodes right from the car. No script, no overthinking…
Complicated ConversationsWe Got It Wrong. So We Started Again. | Relaunch Episode
We went quiet. Not because we gave up — because we needed to get it right. Complicated Conversations is back with a new identity, a new focus, and a clear…
Complicated ConversationsEp. 5 — One Year In: Passion, Frustration & the Acceptance Edit
It's been one year since Complicated Co. launched — and Jodie and Rachel are marking it with their most honest episode yet. In this episode they cover: •…
Complicated ConversationsEp-4 Month One: What Hiring My First Team Member Actually Did to Me
A month ago, Rachel walked through the door. This episode is Jodie flying solo — Rachel doesn't work Tuesdays — with an honest ten-minute reflection on what…
Complicated ConversationsEpisode 3: We Used AI to Bet on the Horses (and Other Business Lessons)
Jodie and Rachel are back, properly fuelled by Mark's legendary full English, to talk about what it's actually like to use AI as a small business owner. This…
Complicated ConversationsEp. 2— Meet Rach, Four Attempts & Why We're Doing This
Welcome to Complicated Conversations — the podcast that documents the real, unfiltered journey of building Complicated Co. from the middle.In Episode 1, Jodie…
Complicated ConversationsThe Reality Behind the Scenes
This episode is a real-time check-in from one of those days that looks productive on paper but feels chaotic underneath. I am in my office, currently in…
Complicated ConversationsThis Is the Middle, Not the End - An Introduction
A quiet introduction to why this podcast exists, the journey that led here, and the twelve months of building that lie ahead.