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Talk About That
Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.
Episodes
Talk About ThatTHROWBACK EPISODE! Forgotten Names, Birdseed Conspiracies, and the In-Betweens :: Episode 122
Due to a death in the family, the boys take a week off and go back in time for a Throwback episode. Jonnie witnesses something weird at the Apple store, John…
Talk About ThatTotino’s Pizza 🍕, Witchcraft, and Critical Thinking 🤔 :: Episode 121
The boys talk about old cartoons, (over?)protective moms, and the imminent removal of villains and idiots from pop culture. Plus, Listener Questions! Also, a…
Talk About ThatHorse Myths 🐴, Bible Bikers 🏍 and Door-to-Door Chicken 🍗 :: Episode 120
John hotwires his microwave, finds a dead mole in his pool, and corrects Jonnie’s horsey heresy. Then the boys discuss some historical characters in American…
Talk About ThatGuilty Pleasures, The Antichrist, and Empathy :: Episode 119
Jonnie ponders end times theology, and plans an awkward water break. Then the boys discuss the “Batman voice” and offer an alternative. Also, a conversation on…
Talk About ThatHeaven 😇, Black History, and Blind Dogs 🐶 :: Episode 118
Jonnie launches a (terrible) lawn care company, and spoils an action movie for John. Meanwhile, the boys blame a popular TV show for irreversible damage to…
Talk About ThatButter Pumps, Work Sandwiches, and “Smashers" :: Episode 117
The boys discuss their stance on contraband at the movies. John has a conflicted relationship with cold cuts, and Jonnie pitches a (terrible) children’s book…
Talk About ThatSafe Rooms, Statues, & Propaganda :: Episode 116
The boys ponder whether they’d use a tiny tornado shelter, and John gives a stellar bus driver metaphor worthy of a youth sermon. Then Jonnie responds to some…
Talk About ThatRacism, Reconciliation, and Reggie Dabbs :: Episode 115
Jonnie gets back to work telling jokes in front of people 🎤, while John tries his best to keep his daughter from getting a Facebook account. Then the boys…
Talk About ThatRenditions, Youth Group, and Church Growth :: Episode 114
John realizes no one remembers any of his past messages, and Jonnie wonders if sermons need to rhyme to be good. Also, a conversation about how the show, and…
Talk About ThatHostile Witnesses, The Last Dance 🏀, and Adult Language 🤬 :: Episode 113
Jonnie ponders if he would lose his creative drive if he were super rich, while John withers under cross-examination from a Southern lawyer. Then, the boys…
Talk About ThatFist Bumps 👊, Stilts, and Dead Birds 🐦 💀:: Episode 112
Jonnie invents a new handshake 🤝 for a new era, while John listens for whispers, and tries to hard sell Jonnie on the merits of a national parks documentary 😴…
Talk About ThatQuarantine Fatigue, Words of Affirmation, and Sabbath Days :: Episode 111
John and Jonnie are back in studio TOGETHER (sort of)! The boys talk about great Moms, Jonnie wonders if a baked potato🥔 is a meal, and John questions his own…
Talk About ThatPandemic Pandering, Naked Running, and Fiery Furnaces 🔥 :: Episode 110
Jonnie hates “Corona Commercials” and does a dramatic reading of what they actually sound like, while John rides the salty-sweet food roller coaster. Jonnie…
Talk About ThatObstacles, Dog Attacks 🐶, & Running Behind :: Episode 109
John wards off a vicious beast using a surprising method, while Jonnie ponders the legality of a certain bumper sticker. Then the boys discuss the spectrum of…
Talk About ThatQuarantine Brain, Tribalism, and Lazy Susans :: Episode 108
Jonnie assesses his market value for prerecorded messages to fans in Cameo, while John has Taco Bell for the first time in ages. Then the boys discuss whether…
Talk About ThatHome Haircuts 💈, Tiger King🐅, and American Individualism 🇺🇸 :: Episode 107
John’s wife has the wrong idea of what it means to be “low on toilet paper”, while Jonnie discovers the surprising things stores ARE running low on now. Also…
Talk About ThatShoplifters, Prosperity Prophets, and Mystery :: Episode 106
Jonnie clears up the real reason behind the toilet paper shortage 🧻, and John cashes in on the crisis with his new book 📖. Then the boys reminisce on the…
Talk About ThatSharpened Sticks, Side Hustles, and Stimulus Checks💰 :: Episode 105
Jonnie breaks out of his quarantine, and immediately regrets it. Meanwhile John has a life hack to keep him safe while jogging, and the boys ponder other jobs…
Talk About ThatCorona Comedy, Kenny Rogers, and Questioning God :: Episode 104
The boys have no idea how the internet works, and John ponders why he will never be elected to office. Meanwhile, Jonnie is forced to retire one of his jokes…
Talk About ThatKen Burns, Keto Killers 🍩, and Corona :: Episode 103
Jonnie accuses John of being cursed, while John takes his family to Disney and burns his diet to the ground. Jonnie wonders if God has autotune, and looks…
Talk About ThatTornadoes 🌪, Ear Monitors, & (Hilarious) Plagiarism :: Episode 102
The boys survive a twister, and hope we are all overreacting to the Coronavirus 😷. John tells us what’s REALLY being heard in your worship leader’s earpiece…
Talk About ThatCable Bills 😡, Head Catchers, and Seven Sons of Sceva :: Episode 101
John filibusters Comcast, but later relents, while Jonnie gives some movie and music trivia no one asked for 🥊. Then the boys unpack some of their Pentecostal…
Talk About That100 Episode Celebration : Jock Jamz, Stage Sweat 😓, and Marriage Tips 👰 :: Episode 100
The boys welcome in some friends of the podcast to commemorate the Hundredth Episode! John nearly strangles himself trying to be a rockstar, and then gets his…
Talk About ThatHuman Videos, Mime Knives 🔪, and Dropping Jesus 😳 :: Episode 99
The boys take a deep dive into early 2000’s youth ministry culture, for better and worse. Jonnie has an idea for a (weird) documentary series, and does comedy…
Talk About ThatValentine’s Day ❤️, Boyz II Men, and “Toxic" People 😷 :: Episode 98
Jonnie thinks everyone is at least secretly fat, and John wonders why certain Biblical names never caught on. Then the boys lament their lack of dancing skills…
Talk About ThatDisease Acronyms 😷, War on Drugs🍃, and Lost Kids 😱 :: Episode 97
The boys rant unintelligently about daylight savings time and invent a new health disorder. John’s book gets placed in a superstore, while Jonnie has his…
Talk About ThatAmnesia, Sleep Deprivation 🛏, and Purity 👰 :: Episode 96
Jonnie gets confused by a hip-hop phrase, John has a (bad) book title idea, and the boys reminisce about an old purity sermon from their youth ministry days…
Talk About ThatThe Urkel Effect🤓 , The Great War, and Virtual Reality :: Episode 95
On today’s show, John and Jonnie talk about their favorite cheesy movies, football snacks🌭, and make their (incorrect) prediction about the Titans. Then John…
Talk About ThatGetups, Unrealistic Expectations, and Sentimentality 😭 :: Episode 94
On today’s show, the boys weigh the pros and cons of going back to school, Jonnie gives (unsolicited) tax tips, John hates small talk, and gets mixed messages…
Talk About ThatCryptomnesia, Gray Hair 👴🏻 , and Hymnists :: Episode 93
The boys talk about parallel thought, Jonnie's battle against Father Time, and going Dutch for lunch. Then John finds hidden treasure in some books (other than…
Talk About ThatResolutions🗓 , Shared Desserts, and No Bad Ideas 🤯 :: Episode 92
John and Jonnie talk about being your own worst critic, and whether standup comedy is portrayed realistically on TV and movies. Then, a conversation on not…
Talk About ThatThe War on Christmas 🎄🔫, Mary Sues, and Corrupt Communication 🙉 :: Episode 91
Jonnie wonders whether the new Star Wars will ruin his childhood, and John watches Christmas movies with Sadie, but has his thumb on the mute button. Then the…
Talk About ThatUndercover Boss, Plantations, and Burning Cars 🚗🔥 :: Episode 90
The boys talk about the one trait all good leaders have, and Jonnie comes up with the perfect Christmas sermon series, & John talks about attractional elements…
Talk About ThatDrunken Cherries 🍒, Code Reds, and Advent :: Episode 89
On today’s show, the boys attempt to LIVE stream with mixed results. Jonnie gives up Diet Coke (for 3 weeks) & ribs the tee-totalers 🍷. John almost fights a…
Talk About ThatCranberry Sauce, Froyo Probz 🍦, and Memory Editing :: Episode 88
John contemplates buying another TV 📺 and Jonnie proposes a new invention that might (not) help. Also, John discovers the worst ministry acronym in history…
Talk About ThatSkydiving✈️ , Car Metaphors 🚙, and Spurious Writings 📚:: Episode 87
John’s hotel AC 🥶 goes on the fritz, but inspires a sermon, while Jonnie shares about his first commercial acting gig, and imagines jumping out of a plane with…
Talk About ThatScurvy Dogs 😷🐕, Clown Calls 🤡, & Hot Takes 🔥 :: Episode 86
John contemplates an exciting career in electronics, Jonnie literally freaks out about the word "literally," and the boys fondly remember life before the…
Talk About ThatFoot Creases 🦶, After School Specials💊, & Love Languages 😍 :: Episode 85
John tries to keep Jonnie on his toes, and laments the worst Country song ever. Then the boys reminisce about being ready to “Just say NO” as a kid, while…
Talk About ThatChurch Microphones 🎤, A Coach's Hat 🧢, and Kanye 🎶 :: Episode 84
John gets to meet a Tennessee legend, and immediately gets accused of a crime, while Jonnie hides from children and uses the honor system for his Halloween…
Talk About ThatTHROWBACK EPISODE: Bad Reviews, Freedom, and Watered-Down Wine :: Episode 83
Our first THROWBACK episode. NOT Sponsored by: Reruns™️: "If You Laugh Just As Hard This Time, You May Just Have A Bad Memory." We're taking the show on the…
Talk About ThatBad Haircuts 💇♂️, Flowers 🌸, and Little Foxes 🦊 :: Episode 82
Jonnie gets a weird “compliment" from his wife & has a new metric for cardiovascular fitness, while John remembers being a Sword Drill Champion 📖, and…
Talk About ThatRoot Beer Bottles, Hotel Balconies 🏊♂️, & Torn Shirts👕 :: Episode 81
John gets kicked out of a hotel for being dumb & gives a great tip for wearing hoodies, while Jonnie shares how his wide hips almost killed him, and his weird…
Talk About ThatUp and Adam, Christian Candy 🍬, & Father Issues :: Episode 80
John and Jonnie lament some terrible church signs they’ve seen, and wonder whether the phrase, “all press is good press” is really true. Also, the boys have a…
Talk About ThatTres Leches 🇲🇽, Buried Hatchets, and Compartmentalized Faith :: Episode 79
Today Jonnie jumps out of a moving car 🚙 & gets chased by a pygmy, while John pretends to be dead. Jeffrey Holland, a dear friend & producer, joins them in…
Talk About ThatDownsizing, Goat Probz 🐐, and Head Lamps🔦 :: Episode 78
Jonnie gets a big dumb scooter, discusses movie bathroom strategies 🎥 🚽 , and tries to keep his dog from embarrassing him. Meanwhile, John buys half a cow 🐄…
Talk About ThatTender Headed Kids 🧒, Puppy "Duty" 🐶, and Palindromes :: Episode 77
On today’s show, Jonnie gets sick 🤒 and Laura bails him out (again). John and Laura decide to work out a few parenting issues on the air and John bemoans life…
Talk About ThatFashion Faux Pas, Pretty People 👧, and Deism :: Episode 76
On today’s show, the boys lament the Vols’ horrible start 🏈, and talk about the important issues- Rompers, Armpit Hair, and Helicopter 🚁 Parents. Also, a…
Talk About ThatBroken Clubs, Thursday Church, and Black Friday Debacles :: Episode 75
On today’s show, Jonnie is (really) bad at golf, and does a cool show with some of Nashville’s best songwriters. And John explains the (painful) difference…
Talk About ThatMops, Chicken Wars 🐓👊, and Foot Probz 🦶 :: Episode 74
John talks about the two main problem issues he sees in most marriages, and deals with his own issues while running. Meanwhile, Jonnie sees a local endorsement…
Talk About ThatPilfered Volleyballs, Headset Mics, and Cultural Bias 🙈 :: Episode 73
John gets some weird donations, and puts them to good use 10 years later, while Jonnie vents about ambiguous test results from his doctor. Also, a conversation…
Talk About ThatSubstitute Teachers 👩🏫, Managed Expectations, & Falling Out of Windows :: Episode 72
Jonnie credits his (limited) success in comedy to some of the jokes he didn’t do, and John imagines what would happen if Jesus & Paul joined your small group…
Talk About ThatColonel Sanders 🍗, Southern Accents, and Biblical Names :: Episode 71
On today’s show, the boys contemplate a trip to NYC for an odd reason 🍔, Jonnie learns about the violent incident that changed fried chicken forever, and John…
Talk About ThatBald-Faced Lies, The Crud 🤢, and Clarinoia :: Episode 70
Jonnie does a movie🍿 and finds out he dresses badly, John goes to camp, and makes up a brand new word that will (probably not) change your marriage. Also, a…
Talk About ThatPuppy Insomnia, Poop Lagoons, and the Lost Art of Nuance :: Episode 69
On today's show, John welcomes his wife, Laura, as co-host while Jonnie selfishly takes a vacation to the beach. John discusses a new addition to the Driver…
Talk About ThatBusting Chops, Fumbled Words, & a SPECIAL GUEST :: Episode 68
On today’s show, Jonnie extols the virtues of having friends who razz each other, John meets a potential new client and forgets how to talk, and the boys…
Talk About ThatLocust People, Prank Texts 📱, & 4th of July 🇺🇸 :: Episode 67
On today’s show, Jonnie ponders the book of Revelation 🐉 and sends a really dumb text to someone he just met, and John nerds out on U.S. history, leading the…
Talk About ThatYour Questions, Famous Dead People, & Sheep Metaphors 🐑 :: Episode 66
On today’s show, John nerds out on his trip to Washington DC, and Jonnie reveals his favorite comedian (in response to a listener question). Also, a…
Talk About ThatSpicy Food 🌶, LeBron Haters, and John 15 📖 :: Episode 65
On today’s show, Jonnie retracts his apology, John is confounded by a toilet paper commercial 🧻, and the boys ponder a career in professional wrestling 🤼♀️…
Talk About ThatLazy Susans, Replacement Gigs, and Revisionist History :: Episode 64
On today’s show, John gets to meet a former boy band star 🕺 and gets a new job title, and Jonnie fills in for a sick comedian friend on a moment’s notice, but…
Talk About ThatTV Interviews 📺, Hazing, and Boat Sermons 🚢 :: Episode 63
On today’s show, John gets another negative book review and gets his head stuck in the ceiling, while Jonnie owns his movie trivia ignorance and goes on a…