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Talk About That
Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.
Episodes
Talk About ThatThe Singularity🤖 , Product Placement & TMI :: Episode 62
John sends saliva to strangers and remembers his beloved Mustang, while Jonnie worries about Skynet and reminisces about Reese’s Pieces. Also, a conversation…
Talk About ThatBaths🛀, Short People, and Hope :: Episode 61
On today’s show, Jonnie has to decide between allergies and depression, John meets a giant, and Jonnie doesn’t understand weather ⛅️. Also, the boys welcome in…
Talk About ThatSelf-Promotion, Critics, & 100 Year Old Men 👴🏻 :: Episode 60
On today’s show, Jonnie hates marketing, but has to do it if he wants to eat, while John responds to a professional book reviewer (and immediately regrets it)…
Talk About ThatJoint Facebook Accounts, Birds In the Bathroom 🐦🚽, and The Unknown God :: Episode 59
On today’s show, John deals with a home invasion, and tries to quell his daughter’s social activism. Jonnie gives his dogs people food 🐶🍔, but is afraid to…
Talk About ThatUnforeseen Kisses 😘, Monocles, & Self-Confidence :: Episode 58
On today’s show, John discovers a dead rabbit 🐇💀 and is confounded by a four-star review, Jonnie is afraid of getting fired, the boys chat about changes in…
Talk About ThatVomit Streaks 🤮, Lizard People 🦎, and Generosity💰 :: Episode 57
On today’s show, John cries out to “O’Rourke”, Jonnie ponders a conspiracy theory and explains why he can’t eat steamed rice anymore 🍚. Also, John runs sound…
Talk About ThatEating Crow, Egg Drops 🥚, and Chreasters🎄 🐣 :: Episode 56
On today’s show, John and Jonnie give a mea culpa for their poor golf prognostication, and remember the intoxicating smells of grade school handouts. Plus…
Talk About ThatSilver Medals 🥈 , Bad Predictions, and Dread :: Episode 55
On today’s show, Jonnie doubts Tiger 🐅 and pays dearly, John writes a book while on drugs 💊. Also, Jonnie gives himself therapy, and the boys have a…
Talk About ThatBackmasking, Bolivia 🇧🇴, and Broken Ladders :: Episode 54
On today's show, John and Jonnie welcome in their longtime friend and mentor, Pastor Andrew Wharton. They reminisce about the early days of ministry together…
Talk About ThatChurch Giggles ⛪️😆, Anger Armor, and Moderation :: Episode 53
On today's show, Jonnie abandons his Incredible Hulk joke, and John makes a HUGE faux pas in his sermon, with hijinks ensuing. The boys discuss Jonnie’s…
Talk About ThatMedical Oddities, Bleeding Cheeks, and Brokenness :: Episode 52
On today's show, John dreams of a long vacation 🚢, Jonnie sees disgusting things at a Philadelphia Museum (and then eats a cheesesteak), and the boys call up…
Talk About ThatFashion Risks, Band Photos, and Witnessing :: Episode 51
On today’s show, Jonnie tell jokes that only work in certain states, John’s turns the tables on a phone scam artist, and his neighbors get chickens. Also, a…
Talk About ThatLament, Parallel Thought, and Renaissance Men :: Episode 50
It’s our 50th Episode! Today, Jonnie contemplates a long flight without headphones, John invents things that have already been invented, and the boys discuss…
Talk About ThatFake Names, Writers Block, and Bombing 💣 :: Episode 49
On today’s show, John experiences carb coma, Jonnie does comedy after an altar call, and the boys talk about the balance between being a steamroller and a…
Talk About ThatBronze Medals, Clown Boards, and Matching Outfits :: Episode 48
On today’s show, Jonnie mumbles when he sings and gives weird gifts, John uses movies to help him parent, and the boys go down Memory Lane with special guest…
Talk About ThatRockstar Voicemails 🎸, Unplanned Encores & Grace Disclaimers :: Episode 47
On todays Show, The boys reminisce on their encounter with Toby Mac, Jonnie bemoans the new "culture of offense", and the death of satire, while John talks…
Talk About ThatBullies, Brady, and Black History Month :: Episode 46
On today’s show, Jonnie reconsiders his longstanding hatred of the Patriots, John longs for an Andy Bartlett Presidency, and the boys discuss the concept of…
Talk About ThatDiagonal Marriage ♟, Poor Posture, and Goat Herding 🐐 :: Episode 45
And we’re BACK! On today’s show, Jonnie explains gift card math, John falls down in his underwear (and Jonnie tries to make a sermon illustration out of it)…
Talk About ThatForgotten Names, Birdseed Conspiracies, and The In-Betweens :: Episode 44
On today’s show, Jonnie witnesses something weird at the Apple store, John talks to his phone with a British accent, and the boys discuss the last two seasons…
Talk About ThatExtra Toes, War Heroes 🇺🇸, and Unintended Consequences :: Episode 43
On today’s show, Jonnie discovers a family secret, John “uncovers” some American History, and Jonnie can’t stop (won’t stop) making catchy titles for things…
Talk About ThatPremature Hugs, Mispronounced Words, and Boredom :: Episode 42
On today’s show, Jonnie gets sensitive, John sings a bad song about Moses, and the boys reminisce on how they met. Also, a conversation about consumer culture…
Talk About ThatRunaway Carts, Mickey Ears, and Self-Preservation :: Episode 41
On today’s show, Jonnie tells the dumb story of his dumb injury, John takes his family to Disney, but only for the sermon illustrations, and the boys discuss…
Talk About ThatGrey’s Anatomy 👩, Judgment Houses 🔥, and Jesus Billboards :: Episode 40
On today’s show, Jonnie devises a new use for Uber, John looks for an empty hospital room to vomit in, and the boys reminisce about the days of churches trying…
Talk About ThatBig Boys, Ketosis, and The Curse of Lundquist :: Episode 39
Today, John revels in the Vols’ upset win over Auburn, Jonnie cheats (but his wife is fine with it), and the boys discuss vestigial organs. Also, a…
Talk About ThatFlying Paperweights, Exhibitionism, and Too Many Shoes 👠 :: Episode 38
Today, Jonnie deals with distracted crowds at two events, with wildly different results. John takes a romantic trip to French Lick, Indiana (on purpose) and…
Talk About ThatPhone Frustration, Dolly, and Eating Puppies 🐶 :: Episode 37
On today’s episode, Jonnie carbs out, John finally gives Jonnie the credit he deserves, and the boys speculate on the Vols’ upcoming game vs the Gators. Also…
Talk About ThatStolen Bugs 🐛, Muffed Music 🎵, and Ricky the Kangaroo :: Episode 36
On today’s episode, John and Laura record the podcast from a new, somewhat exotic location. Laura nerds out (again) on meteorology, while John recounts the…
Talk About ThatMachine Gun Pooh 🔫 , Football Regrets 🏈, and "Prime"time Jonnie :: Episode 35
On today’s episode, John and Laura opine about a strange development with the Christopher Robin movie, and also announce some exciting news about Jonnie. Aly…
Talk About ThatFiddlin’ John 🎻, Top Hats 🎩, and Working Blue :: Episode 34
On today’s episode, Jonnie makes an awkward entrance to the stage, John introduces a brand new segment to answer some questions from our listener(s), and the…
Talk About ThatKiller Balloons, Missionary Dating, and Mixed Bathing :: Episode 33
On today’s episode: •Jonnie finds something new to be terrified about •John tries to find a place to sit down •The boys remember a camp service when “God Told…
Talk About ThatBackspace Buttons, Block-Ins, and Bread :: Episode 32
John goes high-tech with Sadie’s allowance, but Jonnie thinks it’s not been adjusted for inflation, and the boys remember the odd trend of “tag team sermons”…
Talk About ThatVolleyball Barbie, Filthy Music, and The Lost Art of the Lament :: Episode 31
This week, Laura Driver dons the mic as the guest co-host while Jonnie galavants around the country. Laura confesses her discovery of what 90's music was…
Talk About ThatTrap Door Slides, Vacation Food, and Self-Fulfilling Prophecies :: Episode 30
This week, John invents a new dance 💃🏼, Jonnie pitches Christian film ideas 💡, and the boys talk about the time Jonnie almost killed his father-in-law. Also, a…
Talk About That‘Merica 🇺🇸 , Questionable Sources, and Shrek the Sheep 🐑 :: Episode 29
On today’s episode, Jonnie rages against false internet memes, John dreams of a book deal with Costco, and the boys discuss the value of sermon titles that…
Talk About ThatStockholm Syndrome, Marshmallow Creme, and Unchanged Prodigals :: Episode 28
On today’s episode, John does his impression of a bullhorn siren, Jonnie reminisces about gross camp games, and the guys give tips on keeping your pop culture…
Talk About ThatSpecial Edition: Experiencing Loss and Life (In Honor of Weston Gray) :: Episode 27
This week, the guys pause to take a completely different direction after the sudden and tragic loss of one of their longterm friends, a young man named Weston…
Talk About ThatFear, Trophies, and Blind Servants :: Episode 26
This week, Jonnie opens his home to 5 comedians, and somehow stays married, John tells an obscure story from the Bible, and hopes he got the names right, and…
Talk About ThatSlime, False Comparisons, and Kissing Your Grandma :: Episode 25
It’s the 25th Show!! And to celebrate, the guys welcome John’s wife, Laura, back into the studio. In this episode: - John chooses the wrong lotion for his…
Talk About ThatLife, Gluttony, and the Pursuit of Happiness :: Episode 24
This week, John and Jonnie opine about a host of things, including the idea that perhaps they should opine about fewer things on future podcasts. John…
Talk About ThatFoul Language, Lebron’s Tots, and The Prosperity Gospel :: Episode 23
On Today’s episode, Jonnie buys scalped Laker tickets, and John gets caught with a weapon at TSA. The boys argue about whether the NBA is greater than college…
Talk About ThatScooters, Escaped Llamas, and America’s Grandpa :: Episode 22
This week: • John is STILL sick, but plods through like a champion... if that champion went on to have his medals stripped for steroid use. • Jonnie gets…
Talk About ThatTalking Cheeseburgers, Fear of Success, and White Privilege :: Episode 21
On today’s episode: John considers an esophagus stretching procedure, Jonnie expects a (metaphorical) bucket of blood to fall on him, and shares his brother’s…
Talk About ThatChristian Films, Putrid Throats, and Ferry Boats :: Episode 20
This week, the John falls asleep with a lozenge in his mouth, Jonnie gets stuck in an airport, and they discuss the important topics, like whether the search…
Talk About ThatSunburns, Internet Scams, and Canker Sores :: Episode 19
The boys are back after a long hiatus, saying “hi” and hoping you don’t hate us. Hey that rhymed. On today’s episode, the guys talk about bribing customs…
Talk About ThatConspiracy Theories, Star Wars, and the Janitor at NASA :: Episode 18
John and Jonnie discuss paying college athletes, the Cold War, and the Space Race. Jonnie spends way too much time on the Flat Earth Society’s website, and…
Talk About ThatGreen Rooms, Paying Dues, and Heaven :: Episode 17
Dane is back from his whirlwind tour with Loyals, so the guys discuss the differences and similarities of the music and comedy grind. Jonnie shouts about trail…
Talk About ThatTime Travel, British TV, and Shame :: Episode 16
The 3 Amigos are back together! This week, John gives a WWII history lesson while being sick, Dane shares an awkward introduction story, and Jonnie makes a…
Talk About ThatSnowbirds, Mullets, and Huge Wedding Bands :: Episode 15
This week, Laura Driver joins John and Jonnie as they chat about Jonnie's early hair and fashion choices, as well as Laura's double life as an amateur…
Talk About ThatNeedles, Vomit Fairies, and Resolutions :: Episode 14
This week, John and Jonnie chat about being sick at school, and how lame it is to have a late December birthday. Jonnie turns to Jack Frost after an…
Talk About ThatWalls, The American Dream, and Terrible Band Names :: Episode 13
This week, the guys discuss whether or not Home Alone is a Christmas movie and ponder an alien invasion. John gives a quick history lesson on “the pursuit of…
Talk About ThatVulnerability, Johari’s Window, and Burning Penthouses :: Episode 12
This week, John’s wife Laura joins the conversation! They reminisce about youth pastor object lessons, & Jonnie shares a story about a memorable fire his Mom…
Talk About ThatDimples, Invisible Chairs, and Self-Awareness :: Episode 11
This week the guys talk about Christmas music, Mariah Carey’s remarkable quadriceps muscles, and whether there’s such a thing as “soulmates”. Also, Jonnie…
Talk About ThatBlucifer, Internet Mobs, and Moral Authority :: Episode 10
The guys are BACK, and they are SICK! Listen to the boys try to suppress coughs as they discuss important topics like whether Michael Jordan’s first retirement…
Talk About ThatThe CMA’s, Curse Words, and Curiously Strong New Sponsors :: Episode 9
John and Jonnie are back home in Bantertown and they marvel at the explosive growth of Nashville. Jonnie reveals how a certain candy is the unlikely linchpin…
Talk About ThatBad Reviews, Freedom, and Watered-Down Wine :: Episode 8
We’re taking the show on the road!! John and Jonnie drive to Terre Haute, Indiana (Yes, on purpose), and John reads his response to an angry emailer, but can’t…
Talk About ThatBlurry Vision, Banned TV Shows, and Beer Holes :: Episode 7
The whole gang is back! This week we discuss Jonnie’s failing eyesight, Garth Brooks’ 5-part autobiography (!), growing up as a sheltered Christian kid on…
Talk About ThatCellphone Angels, Bad Ankles, and Bear Poop :: Episode 6
Jonnie reveals the art of spraining both ankles simultaneously and John talks about punching three holes in his A/C ductwork to retrieve his wife’s “magic”…
Talk About ThatEasy Outs, Parachutes, and Perceived Truth :: Episode 5
This week the guys discuss what happens if you don’t shake the NyQuil, our guest, Pastor John Carey teaches Spanish to preschoolers, and Jonnie attempts comedy…
Talk About ThatGhostwriting Millennial Rotisserie Chicken Interpreters... And You :: Episode 4
In this episode, John and Dane opine about many random topics, including the process of collaborative writing, UT's epic loss to Georgia, and Jonnie W's…
Talk About ThatNinja Warrior Grant McCartney, Clown Statues, and Unblessed Appetizers :: Episode 3
In this episode, the guys talk about urban legends, proper prayer etiquette, prank wars, and what it means to be a “good Christian”. American Ninja Warrior…