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Talk About That
Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.
Episodes
Talk About ThatBONUS MINI-SODE :: How to Stop Being a Toxic Friend (to Yourself)
Today on Talk About That, the boys talk about the dreaded January weight loss & fitness goals we all set every year. Jonnie remembers being everyone’s fun fat…
Talk About ThatInjury Tents ⛺️, Grasshoppers 🦗, and Hermit Crabs 🐚
Today on Talk About That, John buys some strange accessories for his dog and eats bugs to impress his Dad. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders Cryogenic freezing 🧊 and…
Talk About ThatBONUS MINI-SODE :: You Got Me Feelin’ Emotions
On Today’s special Talk About That midweek mini-episode, the boys chat about emotional health, screen time, and how to break up with your therapist. FOLLOW…
Talk About ThatPack Rats 🐀, Lunch Ladies, and Affirmation
Today on Talk About That, John charms the lunch lady and makes a case for flying cars 🚗 ✈️. Meanwhile, Jonnie irritates his teachers and puts a tiny camera in…
Talk About ThatBONUS MINI-SODE :: The History of New Years Resolutions
On Today’s special Talk About That midweek mini-episode, the boys discuss the long history of New Years resolutions, erased debts, and the danger of your…
Talk About ThatResolutions, Memory Lapses 🧠, and Crisis Calls
Today on Talk About That, John gets a phone call from a football legend 🍊, and considers taking a year off from New Years resolutions. Meanwhile, Jonnie…
Talk About ThatPicasso 🖼️, Pranks 😈, and “Ted Talk” Pastors
Today on Talk About That, John explores his days as a Youth Pastor and reacts to his Christmas gift 🎁 by shooting the bird. Meanwhile, Jonnie tries out a new…
Talk About ThatSad Donkeys, DNA 🧬, and Ordinary Lives
Today on Talk About That, John chases a bird around his house 🦅 🧹, wonders if donkeys are depressed, and loses at Trivial Pursuit in epic fashion. Meanwhile…
Talk About ThatWorship Gangs 🎸, Bad City Names, and Liturgy 📖
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie suddenly craves grapefruit juice, and wonders how many worship leaders onstage is too many. Meanwhile, John tries to…
Talk About ThatJean Grey, Giant Chickens 🐔, and Procrastination :: Episode 233
Today on Talk About That, John eats a comically big sandwich 🥪 and makes his own funeral playlist 🎶 💀. Meanwhile, we look back at our Christian rock band…
Talk About ThatCracked Necks 💆♂️, Beepers 📟, and Thankfulness 🙏 :: Episode 232
Today on Talk About That, John wishes there were ninja chiropractors and has some problems with Star Wars terminology. Meanwhile, Jonnie finds out in the worst…
Talk About ThatFive-Heads 🧑🦲, Man Soaps 🧼, and Old Glory 🇺🇸 :: Episode 231
Today on Talk About That, John’s sports a faux hawk for 3 years too long, and writes a book about history’s most patriotic duvet. Meanwhile, Jonnie wants to…
Talk About ThatFudge Sundaes 🍨, Melon-Callings🍉 , and God’s Will :: Episode 230
Today on Talk About That, John thinks he’s a ninja 🥷, and fights accusations of being a Boomer 👴🏻. Meanwhile, Jonnie shares a theory about Prince, and ruins…
Talk About ThatLove Languages ❤️, Ghost Blasters 👻💥, and People Pleasers :: Episode 229
Today on Talk About That, John over-analyzes a text conversation, and tries to change his love language. Meanwhile, Jonnie pays people to get out of telling…
Talk About ThatCanned Laughter 😂, Go-Kart Kids, and Collectivism 👩👩👦👦👨👨👦👨👩👧👦 :: Episode 228
Today on Talk About That, John has a smelly dog 🐕 👃 AND a go-kart. Meanwhile, Jonnie fractures a toe and ponders the role of a professional “sweetener.” Plus…
Talk About ThatUpsets 🏈, Warning Labels ⛔️, and Alarmists ⚠️ :: Episode 227
Today on Talk About That, the boys finally break down the Volunteers’ big win over Alabama 🙌. Then, Jonnie brings back cigars and candy from Mexico with…
Talk About ThatArchdukes 💥, Tight Slacks 👖, and Shame 🤦♂️ :: Episode 226
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie goes pants shopping in Mexico 🇲🇽, and ponders the real reason women like tall men 📸. Meanwhile, John refuses to moisturize 🔥…
Talk About ThatRenaissance Men, Impostor Syndrome, and Cavemen :: Episode 225
Today on Talk About That, John has trouble describing himself in an interview, and consults his Inner Committee. Meanwhile, the Vols 🏈 break the curse against…
Talk About ThatReplacement Shows, Hurricane Prayers 🌀 🙏, & Pain 😢 :: Episode 224
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie plays understudy for a comedian friend who gets sick, and hopes to avoid some guy named Ian. Meanwhile, John gets the weirdest…
Talk About ThatSmashed Windows, Hot Chicken 🥵🐔, and Turning Points :: Episode 223
Today on Talk About That, John drives without a license 🪪 and has dreams of an NIL endorsement deal 💰. Meanwhile, Jonnie tries intermittent fasting and ponders…
Talk About ThatCliffhangers, Contact Lenses, and Cancer Scares :: Episode 222
Today on Talk About That, we try to remember who shot J.R. on the 80’s TV show “Dallas”. Then, Jonnie has a strange encounter with two artists while out biking…
Talk About ThatElaborate Proposals 💍, Bear Sightings 🐻, and Statue Removals :: Episode 221
Today on Talk About That, John investigates his wife’s bear sighting, and can’t remember if he’s ever been in a hot air balloon. Meanwhile, Jonnie visit’s…
Talk About ThatNicknames, Settlers, and Dog Cops 👮♀️ 🐶 :: Episode 220
Today on Talk About That, John breaks up the band and breaks Jonnie’s heart 💔, and also makes a theological case for dogs in Heaven. Meanwhile, Jonnie’s Mom…
Talk About ThatFog Machines 💨, Walking Pneumonia 😷, and Hamilton :: Episode 219
Today on Talk About That, John has an allergic reaction, forcing Jonnie to try and remember the words to their own band’s songs. Then, Jonnie performs at a…
Talk About ThatNo-Huddle Offenses 🏈 , Lowing Cattle 🐄, and Public Apologies 😣 :: Episode 218
Today on Talk About That, John is fed up with fake injuries 😡, and tries to convince Jonnie to listen to the Hamilton soundtrack before seeing the play…
Talk About ThatFoggy Glasses 👓💨, Breaking the Chains, and Ghosting 👻 :: Episode 217
Today on Talk About That, John’s tries to impress the eye doctor, and offers to coach Jonnie on frisbee technique. Meanwhile, Jonnie has two wolves inside of…
Talk About ThatFur Parents 🐕, Lenny Kravitz 🎸, & Repeat Sermons :: Episode 216
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie doesn’t read the fine print on a monthly service 💰😡 and ponders music artists who look nothing like their names. Meanwhile…
Talk About ThatApostles ⛪️, Archetypes 🦸♂️, & Fancy Burgers 🍔💰 :: Episode 215
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie argues against dark chocolate 🍫 and “important” speeches at rock concerts 🙄. Meanwhile, John explains what makes an Apostle…
Talk About ThatBlind Teachers, Alpacas 🦙, and Press Secretaries :: Episode 214
Today on Talk About That, John gets hauled into a parent-teacher meeting over saggy pants👖. Meanwhile, Jonnie picks the absolute wrong person to sing to at a…
Talk About ThatQuarantines 😷, Stranger Things, and Self-Confidence :: Episode 213
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie learns he is not in fact a superhero 🦸♂️, and finally joins the Covid Club. Meanwhile, John is disappointed when people on…
Talk About That“Smart” Kids 🧠, Dumpster Books 🗑, and Guns :: Episode 212
Today on Talk About That, John takes on a phone scammer, and sees his books go flying off the shelves (and off trucks). Meanwhile, Jonnie quits the piano 🎹…
Talk About ThatPet Peeves 😤, Icebergs 🧊🚢, and Introspection 🧠 :: Episode 211
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie tells lies about plants for money, and gets terrified of loose groceries 🍌. Meanwhile, John has theories about the Titanic and…
Talk About ThatRoundabouts 🚗 , Third Parties, and Tetanus 💉 :: Episode 210
Today on Talk About That, John and Jonnie tackle the important subjects like: who would win in a fight between us, which one of us would make a better…
Talk About ThatAlexa 🤖, Goat Attacks 🐐, & Pathways :: Episode 209
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie goes bargain hunting for fashionable eyewear, and writes celebrity announcements for Nashville Airport ✈️. Meanwhile, John…
Talk About ThatLandlines 📞, Algorithms 💻, & Andy Rooney (with Special Guest Alyson Holland) :: Episode 208
Today on Talk About That, we welcome our dear friend and host of the Kennedy Dynasty podcast, Alyson Holland. We discuss the important issues, like bringing…
Talk About ThatTravel Tips 🏨, Baby Boys 👶, and Flop Sweat 😓 :: Episode 207
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie invents a new television 📺 👓, sweats profusely, and shares his best travel tips. Meanwhile, John wants to live to be 119…
Talk About ThatWeighted Blankets, Deep Fakes, and Strawman Arguments :: Episode 206
Today on Talk About That, John discovers Deep Fake video technology, and refuses to sleep in 🛌 . Meanwhile, Jonnie issues a correction from an old episode and…
Talk About ThatHushpuppies, Bad Drivers💥🚗, & Character :: Episode 205
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie ponders the invention of hushpuppies, and joins an exclusive club 👴🏻. Then John has a Crisis of Limitation and we chat about…
Talk About ThatBuggies 🐴, Hook-Ups, and Gas Fires :: Episode 204
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie tries to make Amish people laugh and deals with the youngest heckler ever. Meanwhile, John deals with mistaken identity, and…
Talk About ThatOscar Slaps 🏆 👋, Helium Disasters 🎈 💥, & Parables 📜 :: Episode 203
Today on Talk About That, John wonders how successful he’d be if he had all his hair and Jonnie finds out about another troubling gas shortage. Then the boys…
Talk About ThatSocial Media Snafus 😬, End Times 🐉, and Cancel Culture 🤬 :: Episode 202
Today on Talk About That, John ponders a new career in hip-hop, and gets stuck on a boat when his Instagram post goes rogue. Meanwhile Jonnie explains why he’s…
Talk About ThatMy Pillows, Sea Lions 🦭, & Post-Modernism :: Episode 201
Today on Talk About That, John has a run-in with a sea lion, and searches for a less political pillow company. Meanwhile, Jonnie is a proud member of the Clean…
Talk About That200th Episode (!!!) with Special Guests Dave Barnes & Jon McLaughlin :: Episode 200
Today on Talk About That, we celebrate our 200th show by welcoming in special guests Dave Barnes & Jon McLaughlin from the Dadville Podcast! Together we spent…
Talk About ThatMakeup💄, Evel Knievel 🏍 , & Media Bias :: Episode 199
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie gets sick on the road, and gets TikTok famous anonymously. Meanwhile, John has a shiny head, and stalks the Facebook profile…
Talk About ThatPro Wrestling 🤼♀️, Witchy Women 🧹& Forecasting 🔮:: Episode 198
Today on Talk About That, we launch our inaugural VIDEO episode, which makes us even more self conscious. John gets ready to go on a cruise, and talks about…
Talk About ThatSubtitles, Huckle Bearers 🤠, and Deadlines ✍️:: Episode 197
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie needs closed captions at the movies, and gets a zero for the day. Meanwhile, John lets his daughter watch Tommy Boy, and makes…
Talk About That90’s CCM 🎸💿, “Secular Music" 😈, and Turning Tables 👊 :: Episode 196
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie invents some weird new products for his merch table, and laments the slow death of DVD and CD sales (just in time for the…
Talk About ThatDitch Witches 🧹, Ninja Stars 🥷, and 20/20 Hindsight 👓:: Episode 195
Today on Talk About That, John finds buried treasure and gets Covid 🦠. Meanwhile, Jonnie has some regrettable hot takes from old episodes, and desperately…
Talk About ThatMLK, Busyness, and Hobbies :: Episode 194
This week on Talk About, John gets hacked by a nefarious New Zealander, and ponders a future in politics. Meanwhile, Jonnie puts his mattress on the floor like…
Talk About ThatLoofahs 🧽, Ten Commandments 📜, and Political Waffling 🐍 :: Episode 193
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie gives tips on staying in cheap hotels, & makes a tough choice in a movie theatre. Meanwhile, John ponders Old Testament Law &…
Talk About ThatSnow Days ⛄️, Monogamy, and Risk Aversion 😬 :: Episode 192
Today on Talk About That, it’s a Snowpocalypse! John hurts himself sledding, and has no butt 🍑. Meanwhile Jonnie tries adopting a “lunchroom” philosophy to…
Talk About ThatFree Speech 📢, Misinformation 😈, and Spunky Old People 👴🏻 :: Episode 191
Today on Talk About That, John gives a history lesson about the President who locked up his critics 🔒, and gets some new pen pals for his Birthday ✍️…
Talk About ThatWar on Christmas 🎄 🔥, Oxford Commas, and Flipped Flags 🇺🇸 :: Episode 190
Today on Talk About That, John is hopelessly behind on his Marvel Movies 🎥 🦸♂️ & shares how a strong wind caused his mental meltdown🌪. Meanwhile, Jonnie has…
Talk About ThatCBD Gummies, Christian-Owned Businesses, & Brain Distortions 🧠 :: Episode 189
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie gives his dog table food and wonders if he’s too old for TikTok. Meanwhile, John claims he never cheated in school, but learns…
Talk About ThatInterruption, Family History, and Creative Pressure :: Episode 188
Today on Talk About That, John laments his December birthday 🎁, and explores the history of his family name. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the art of interruption…
Talk About ThatBritish Jesus, Bathroom Doors🚪, and Emotional Breakdowns 🤯 :: Episode 187
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie develops an unhealthy envy of someone’s fridge, and ponders worship lyric technology in the future 🤖. Meanwhile John reaches…
Talk About ThatLow Fuel ⛽️, Christmas Decorations🌲, and Hustle Culture :: Episode 186
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie scolds John for running on empty, and attempts to impress a girl with popcorn 🍿. Meanwhile John calls Jonnie a Grinch and…
Talk About ThatTortoises 🐢, Hares 🐇, & Hardship 😩 :: Episode 185
Today on Talk About That, John abandons Jonnie at a 5k race 🏃🏼♂️, and Jonnie holds a 20 year grudge about it. Meanwhile, we ponder the moral panic surrounding…
Talk About ThatHecklers 😡, Kickball Injuries 🏥 & Daughters 👧 :: Episode 184
Today on Talk About That, John uses a fifty-cent word, and ponders tasing himself into better posture. Meanwhile, Jonnie hurts himself playing kickball with…
Talk About ThatDead Trees, Fairweather Fans, and Eternal Chickens :: Episode 183
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie sells plants while not knowing anything about them, and get caught cheating on the Titans with another team. Meanwhile, John…