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Talk About That
Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.
Episodes
Talk About ThatGhost Shrubs, Arcade Robberies, and Perspective
John heads to Las Vegas to help his daughter jump higher and gets scolded while gambling exactly one dollar. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets his computer stolen at a…
Talk About ThatEclipses, Fast Cars, and Friendship
John makes an awkward joke on primary Election Day and has a magical (and questionable) encounter with a bald eagle. Meanwhile, Jonnie plans a weekend of…
Talk About ThatDeath Threats, Stressed States, and Wonder
John wonders what happened to the roadside Rocket in Huntsville, AL and tells us which states are the most stressed out. Meanwhile, Jonnie releases an old…
Talk About ThatBike Ramps, Go-Karts, and Mistakes
John gets a go-kart and embarrasses his daughter with a “cool” handshake routine. Meanwhile, Jonnie jumps over the neighborhood kids with his bike and tells…
Talk About ThatSeasickness, Elopements, & Tribalism
John gets the flu and makes Jonnie sing the highest harmony notes ever at his wedding. Meanwhile, Jonnie ambushes John’s former teenage celebrity crush for a…
Talk About ThatENCORE EPISODE : Valentines Day
You wanted it, you got it! A special encore of Talk About That's 2023 Valentines Day minisode. The boys take a deep dive into the important topics like high…
Talk About ThatAwkward Roses, Ten Lepers, and Neuroplasticity
John gets jealous at a Boyz II Men Concert and teaches us about Neuroplasticity. Meanwhile, Jonnie gives his band’s demo CD to Tobymac in hopes of a record…
Talk About ThatSpace Monkeys, Food Poisoning, and Pressure
John offers a chimpanzee a promotion at NASA, and travels back in time to Meet Alexander Hamilton, and neither goes well. Meanwhile, Jonnie reveals the one…
Talk About ThatRadio Silence, Patriotic Turkeys, and Contentment
John puts all his memories in the cloud and begs Jonnie not to tell him the score of the game. Meanwhile, Jonnie performs in front of 16,000 people and hurts…
Talk About ThatWeathermen, Bootleggers, and Power
John worries about Jonnie driving in the snow, and considers getting his PhD. Meanwhile, Jonnie talks to his Uber driver and immediately regrets it, and…
Talk About ThatTrash Days, Camp Games, and Geniuses
John has a power trip as a camp counselor, but gets humbled by the Lord of the Landfill. Meanwhile, Jonnie licks windowsills and ponders his questionable…
Talk About ThatSpeed Demons, Codependency, and Vices
John plans to live to be 100 and drives on the emergency shoulder on Christmas. Meanwhile, Jonnie takes issue with the ending of Back to the Future and says…
Talk About ThatThe Grinch, Bathtub Boycotts, and Manifest Destiny
John tells us about the perils of recording an audiobook and unveils the latest theme music for his “Quote of the Week” segment. Meanwhile, Jonnie writes love…
Talk About ThatChristmas Fish, Toilet Paper Panics, and the Shoe-pocalypse
John can’t stop replacing dead fish for his daughter and tells us the three words every parent dreads at Christmas. Meanwhile, Jonnie buys way too many coats…
Talk About ThatCheetahs, Bad Listeners, and Christmas Toys
John reassures Jonnie about his use of text emojis and admits he can’t multitask. Meanwhile, Jonnie finds a car wash with the dumbest name ever and tells the…
Talk About ThatMissed Selfies, Overconfidence, and Self-Evident Truth
John comes up with a brand new drug, and tells us about General Custer. Meanwhile, Jonnie goes on tour with Nate Bargatze in his hometown of Knoxville…
Talk About ThatArgument Rules, Shopping Carts, and Holes in the Roof
John kisses dating goodbye, and tells us the one thing NOT to say in an argument. Meanwhile, Jonnie celebrates the inventor of the shopping cart, and the…
Talk About ThatFeeling Superior, Phone-Mo, and Freedom
John discovers the subtle difference between prison inmates and referees, and unveils a new jingle candidate for his Quote of the Week segment. Meanwhile…
Talk About ThatText Etiquette, Being “Cringe,” and The Gift of Angst
John has a meeting with his inner committee and kills bugs for fun at dinner parties. Meanwhile, Jonnie doesn’t like moving around onstage and tells us the…
Talk About ThatHalloween Candy, Stolen Sleep, and Over-Editing
John meets an archaeologist and steals gasoline. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders Halloween candy bowl etiquette and gives the telltale signs of a bad hotel room…
Talk About That90s Fashion, Space Cats, and Failure
John reminisces about Hypercolor t-shirts in the 90s and keeps an inferior product because it’s too expensive to return it. Meanwhile, Jonnie wants to bring…
Talk About ThatHitchhikers, Bad Directions, and Jealousy
John picks up a hitchhiker and has a missed connection at a Michael Bolton concert. Meanwhile, Jonnie doesn’t like his resting face and can’t find the…
Talk About ThatFry Daddies, Wedding Problems, and The Eucharist
John ponders writing a cookbook and tells us what NOT to do if you are officiating a wedding. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells a risky joke at a megachurch and has a…
Talk About ThatOverthinking, Mullets, and Honor Culture
John shouts at the clouds about the return of a certain hairstyle and tries to come up with photoshoot poses that aren’t awkward. Meanwhile, Jonnie…
Talk About ThatFlesh Walls, Tongue Twisters and Road Rage
John stays way too long at the butter pump and yearns for a simpler time when our superheroes could be a bit pudgier. Meanwhile, Jonnie shares some of his pet…
Talk About ThatMarilyn Hanson, Side Quests, and Jumping the Shark
John creates a death metal boy band and ponders what would be on our podcasts official Bingo Card. Meanwhile, Jonnie has difficulty rolling his Rs and takes a…
Talk About ThatRoller Coasters, TV Auditions, and Control
John is self conscious of his squeaky shoes, and writes a song about dying frogs. Meanwhile, Jonnie auditions for the celebrity judges on America’s Got Talent…
Talk About ThatLizard People, Legless Pilots, and Isolation
John tries living in the moment and thinks Jonnie is exactly 10% too negative. Meanwhile, Jonnie shares a hypothesis about why conspiracy theories exploded the…
Talk About ThatDoses, Cool Teachers, and Inheriting the Earth
John tries to be the “cool teacher” and thinks Jonnie takes too much Tylenol. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the old Super Glue commercial with the construction…
Talk About ThatRecess, Robot Fraternities, and Fulfillment
John meets a pizza delivering robot and wears house shoes to climb Everest. Meanwhile, Jonnie keeps his shoes on way too long and tells the story of the time…
Talk About ThatApologies, Fallen Heroes, and Green Fridges
John makes an apology video from the high seas and somehow makes it worse. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the origin of reality prank shows and tells the story of…
Talk About ThatSleds, Potluck Dinners, and Reformation
John tries to come up with a new name for “potluck dinners” and has an idea to revolutionize frozen yogurt shops. Meanwhile, Jonnie has questions about an…
Talk About ThatHammer Pants, Foul-Mouthed Birds, and Enlightenment
John puts on his baggiest rayon pants and tells the story of a rogue gang of cursing parrots. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the phrase “goody two shoes” and feels…
Talk About ThatRasslin’, Short Sermons, & Affectionate Parents
John digitally tracks his family and gets invited to speak at an Episcopal church... (for about 11 minutes). Meanwhile, Jonnie thinks professional wrestlers…
Talk About ThatMonkey Movies, Flying Pies, and Therapy Lingo
John dissects what made the show Friends so good and Indiana Jones 4 so bad. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the history of monkeys in the movies and tells the story…
Talk About ThatBicycle Kicks, Con Men, and Famous Last Words
John gets into a fight with his brother and chases down some teenage boys like a modern day vigilante. Meanwhile, Jonnie visits a sarcastically named walk-in…
Talk About ThatHoarding, Mary Sues, and Divine Interruptions
John strikes up a conversation with a total stranger and thinks an octopus and a squid are the same thing. Meanwhile, Jonnie is conflicted about buying toilet…
Talk About ThatSleep Running, Rockstar Behavior, and Internal Messaging
John falls for a prank while driving a bus and proposes a senior league NFL. Meanwhile, Jonnie comes in to work on his birthday and hurts himself by waking up…
Talk About ThatU.F.O.s, Delayed Gratification, and Ancient Rhythms
John goes to college for free and ponders whether he’d want to know about an alien invasion. Meanwhile, Jonnie thinks fax machines might be witchcraft and…
Talk About ThatThe Ultimate Worrier, Angry Preachers, and Self Control
John compares himself to Larry Bird and tries to correct his horrible posture. Meanwhile, Jonnie wishes he was more optimistic and tells the incredible tale of…
Talk About ThatPhone Dreams, Blood Moons, and Overcorrections
John has a leaky ceiling and is running late, even while asleep. Meanwhile, Jonnie wonders why no one is ever on their phones in their dreams, and tells the…
Talk About ThatStolen Sweet & Low, Dance Moms, and Jenga Towers
John watches trash TV and files an unlikely insurance claim. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us the one thing is wife could do that he couldn’t forgive and reveals the…
Talk About ThatDeath Drops, $200 Haircuts, & Conflict Resolution
John taps into his counterphobia on theme park rides and reveals who is responsible for killing bugs in his house. Meanwhile, Jonnie adds a waterslide clause…
Talk About ThatSpecial Guest : Comedian Brian Bates
Today on Talk About That, the boys are joined in studio by comedian Brian Bates, co-host of the hugely successful “Nateland” podcast, to talk about emotional…
Talk About ThatRain Delays, Brain Tonics, and Hopefulness
John has a late night thanks to T-swift and some T-storms, and reveals how long he needs to know someone before going in for a hug. Meanwhile, Jonnie explains…
Talk About ThatCold Snaps, Apologies, and Youth Ministry
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie shoots commercials in a freak April snowstorm and thinks you’re a bad person if you do a certain thing on an airplane…
Talk About ThatVoles, Kleenex, and Distracted Prayers
Today on Talk About That, John’s goes medieval on some rodent intruders and buys votes in his 8th grade election. Meanwhile, Jonnie reveals what 70s movie made…
Talk About ThatStolen Trailers, Space Vomit, and Civility
Today on Talk About That, John deals with a shady music producer and fights for his right to haggle over the price of a car. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets robbed and…
Talk About ThatBindles, “Chreasters,” and Church Naps
Today on Talk About That, John shares what it’s like as a Pastor to prepare for an Easter crowd and talks about the biblical danger of sleeping in windows…
Talk About ThatEarworms, Garbage Boats, and the Problem with Perfection
Today on Talk About That, John gets a country song stuck in his head and is terrified of losing his job to a robot. Meanwhile, Jonnie accidentally disses…
Talk About ThatMoon Landings, Tank Girl, and Algorithms
Today on Talk About That, John avoids scary movies, and invests in some good knee braces. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the most laid back of the martial arts, and…
Talk About ThatCelebrity Culture, Wardrobe Malfunctions, and Authenticity
Today on Talk About That, John stalks Christian celebrities to give them our band’s demo CD and ponders if a ghostwriter ✍️ ever gets so busy that they hire…
Talk About ThatTee-Totalers, Cable Cutters , and 20/20 Hindsight
Today on Talk About That, John deconstructs cable television, and wonders who mailed his mother a SpongeBob tumbler. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets indignant at the…
Talk About ThatBe-boppers, Fire Alarms, and Wrestling with God
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie deals with a fire alarm during his comedy set, and gives a sound scolding to a would-be burglar. Meanwhile, John gets sucked…
Talk About ThatTornado Alley, Hose Pipes, and Prayer
Today on Talk About That, John gets mistaken for a convict, and plagiarizes the Serenity Prayer. Meanwhile, Jonnie eats a gigantic potato 🥔, and loves tattoo…
Talk About ThatLIVE MUSICAL GUEST: Caleb Christopher Edwards on Bitter Foods, Unsafe Systems, and Muskrats
Today on Talk About That, Jonnie has way too many pairs of glasses, and a car just for his dogs. Meanwhile, John ponders if there is a right way to leave a…
Talk About ThatEngineers ⚙️, Tinnitus 👂, and Rejection 😞
Today on Talk About That, John hears ringing and doesn’t understand praying mantises. Meanwhile, Jonnie performs during a snowstorm ❄️ and ponders launching…
Talk About ThatBONUS MINI-SODE :: Valentines Day
Today on a very special Talk About That Mini-sode, the boys take a deep dive into the important topics like high school crushes, the best Valentine’s candy…
Talk About ThatCoffin Beds ⚰️, Jailhouse Comedy, and Money 💰
Today on Talk About That, John learns to speak Viking, and wonders if he has anything in his house worth stealing. Meanwhile, Jonnie opens a mystery package…
Talk About ThatStolen Signs 🪧, Hourglass Preachers ⌛️, and the Gift of Boredom
Today of Talk About That, John ponders revenge songs, and defaces public property. Meanwhile, Jonnie thinks movies have gotten way too long ⏰ and gets booked…