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Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD
The Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD podcast, hosted by Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford, is for Human Resources and Organizational Development change-makers committed to bold work in an era that calls for the skills, values and partnership of these two disciplines. Bob and Joyce are former HR and OD C-suite executives who share their successes, failures, and hacks. They believe that it's an exciting time for this work and give specifics around acquisitions, policy nightmares, and grand…
Episodes
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 74: HR's Bad Rap
In this episode, Bob’nJoyce continue their conversation on the bad rap that HR receives. HR is often seen as the compliance police, organizational irritant…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 73: HR - Who Are We?
In this episode, Bob'nJoyce talk sports, making choices, and yes, the need for HR to reinvigorate itself. You will learn: • The need to check in before diving…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 72: 2022 Culture Change Work – Soothing, Uncomfortable And Needed
In Episode 72, Bob’nJoyce rift on needed culture change given our times. Organizations and institutions are under great pressure to change behaviors and…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 71: Baptism by Fire – Part Two
In this episode, Bob’nJoyce share a story about Bob’s experience co-leading Hannaford’s entry into new markets in Virginia and North Carolina. This is a story…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 70: Bold Moves, Cringe-worthy Moments, and Chronic Curiosity
In this episode, Joyce shares her story as an emerging OD practitioner at Hannaford Bros. Co., a regional grocer in Maine. Through storytelling, Joyce shares…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 69: Baptism by Fire – A Story about Accelerated Learning
In this episode, Bob’nJoyce share a story about accelerated learning. It is scary, intimidating, and uncomfortable but is where deep learning happens. This is…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 68: Being Present – A Gift for You and Others
In today’s episode, we explore the benefits of being present and in the moment. Instead of explaining what we mean, we practiced a meditation of being there…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 67: Winning the Battle for Talent
In this episode, Bob’nJoyce, discuss the posting process and its importance to an organization’s success. In the era of Zoom, social media, and recruiting…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 66: Managing External OD/HR Consultants
In this episode, Bob’nJoyce delve in the benefits of using external OD/HR consultants while managing the landmines of using them. Whether you are hiring an…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 65: To Disrupt – OD’s Ultimate Purpose
In today’s episode, Bob’nJoyce wrestle with the idea of OD’s purpose being to evoke disruption. We both agreed the word disruption may be too harsh. Our goal…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 64: A Show About Nothing
In this episode, Bob’nJoyce let it rip and rift about rifting. We discussed everything from toilet paper and Kleenex to delayed gratification and somehow…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 63: A Time to Be Bold and Courageous
Many of us play it safe when the organization requires bold action. In this episode, Bob’nJoyce take on the topic of leaning into discomfort and taking bold…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 62: The Burnout Pandemic and What OD/HR Can Do
In this episode, we revisit the cause and impact of burnout and stress. Good companies regard the health and well-being of their employees as inextricably…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 61: Lead Like You Own It - Lessons from Entrepreneurs
In this episode, Bob’nJoyce look at leadership through the lens of an entrepreneur. An entrepreneur wears many hats and must surround themselves with people…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 60: Fully Human Leadership – A Deeper Dive
In today’s episode, Bob’nJoyce dive deeper into the new leadership model introduced in Episode 59. They make the case why dated leadership models are no longer…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 59: Fully Human Leadership – A New Model for Leading
Ralph Waldo Emerson summed up this model best: “To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment.”…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 58: Informed Consultant – OD Sherpa
In today’s episode, Bob’NJoyce explore ODN’s 5th and final OD core competency, Informed Consultant. This competency draws on an OD practitioner’s…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 57: We Doth Protest Too Much – Being a Credible Strategist
In this episode, Bob’nJoyce explore ODN’s 4th OD Competency – Credible Strategist. This competency requires OD to have a leadership presence and the emotional…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 56: OD Obi-Wan Kenobi
In this Episode, Bob’nJoyce explore ODN’s 3rd OD Competency – Business Advisor. In today’s chaotic, unpredictable world, leadership needs trusted OD business…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 55: Efficient Designer. What the Heck is This?
Today we explore ODN’s second OD competency, efficient designer. We speak to this competency’s importance and what its impact is when done well. We give…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 54: How OD Makes Organizations Work Better – System Change Expert
Today, we continue to explore “OD’s job description” as defined by ODN, a network of OD scholars and practitioners committed to creating effective, healthy…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 53: Going Behind the OD Curtain – How We Do What We Do
In this episode, Bob’nJoyce demystify the work of OD using the competency framework created by ODN (Organization Development Network). In Episode 21 we…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 52: Being Fully Human Goes Mainstream
In this episode, Bob’nJoyce discuss the shift towards humanizing organizations and leadership. The common themes of irritation (what took us so long), and…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 51: The New Normal: Living with Covid
In this episode, Bob’nJoyce get up close and personal with Covid as one of them tested positive. Like wishing a storm to pass, we have waited two years for…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 50: Uncertainty’s Best Antidote - Shining the Light
In this episode, Bob’nJoyce explore the importance of bringing “light” into the tunnel when all seems bleak and uncertain. Organizations and individuals…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 49: Confronting Conflict – An Emerging HR/OD Competency
In this episode, we share practical tips on how individuals and groups can effectively navigate difficult conversation. In a culture where profound…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 48: Creating a New Normal - What Stays and What Goes?
In this episode, Bob’nJoyce muse over the new order that is emerging from the chaos of Covid. We, as a society, are in a tectonic shift that demarcates before…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 47: Riding a Bike is Easy, Sustaining Change Is Not
It turns out we weren’t finished unraveling why sustaining change is so difficult when we go through training. In this episode, we explore the forces both for…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 46: Caution Ahead – Navigating the Perils of Adult Learning
Why does training too often miss the mark? This is the central question we take on in today’s podcast. Bob’nJoyce deconstruct the distinction between learning…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 45: Lessons From Eating Popcorn – The Perfect Comfort Food
In this episode, Bob’nJoyce explore the importance of finding respite and meaningful work in a dispirited, confused world. We have been through a lot these…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 44: When Work Works – Merits of a Large Organization
This week, Bob’nJoyce take on the merits of working in big organizations. With a record number of Americans quitting their jobs, they suggest that people just…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 43: Why Employee Benefits Matter Now More Than Ever
In this episode, Bob’njoyce explore the importance of employee pay benefits to reflect an organization’s culture and values. All too often, employers mimic the…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 42: Asking “What if…” – A Powerful Idea Generator
In today’s episode we explore a brainstorming technique called, “What if…”, a conversation exercise that unleashes creativity, innovation, and new ideas…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 41: HR/OD’s Duty to Speak Truth to Power
Blind spots exist in every organization. They conceal organizational truths, that when left uncovered, hinder effectiveness and stifle innovation. In this…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 40: Overcoming Burnout - An Interview with Joe Doty
In today’s podcast, our guest, Joe Doty, shares how to be aware of and overcome workplace burnout. Joe is Executive Director at Feagin Leadership Program and…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 39: 7 Smart Strategies for Self-Management in Tough Times
Chaos and uncertainty has become the new normal and, as a result, we find ourselves at the beginning of the learning curve to cope. In this episode, Bobn’Joyce…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 38: Nobody Likes Pain - Especially Organizational Pain
In this episode, we explore the sources and implications of organizational pain. HR/OD and leadership have a role in addressing organizational pain that is…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 37: Let’s Get Goofy – The Power of Humor
In this episode, Bob’NJoyce explore the benefits, and yes, the power of humor. More and more, organizations are declaring humor as a value. Leaders who are…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 36: All Things HR
In this episode, Bob’nJoyce get granular on all things HR. Joyce interviews Bob on the arc of his career in HR and his perspectives on the power of HR when…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 35: A Conversation with John Vegas on HR/OD's Impact
In this episode, our guest, John Vegas, speaks about the role of HR/OD in an organization’s success. Over a thirty-year career, John has worked in many roles…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 34: See Your Blind Spots (or Else)
Blind spots can be the Achilles heel of leadership. In this episode, we explore why our blind spots hinder our effectiveness and an organization's success. The…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 33: Mentoring – A Catalyst for Development
The saying, “When the student is ready, the teacher will appear,” is at the heart of successful mentoring. In this episode, we will explore mentoring programs…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 32: Workplace Reinvention – An Opportunity
Organizations are grappling with reinventing their workplace to attract and retain talent. In this episode, Bob’nJoyce noodle over what is possible when…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 31: The Role of Third-Party Facilitation in HR/OD
Third Party Facilitation (TPF) is an underappreciated role that HR & OD practitioners play. In this episode, we explore the importance and complexity of TPF…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 30: College Recruiting – An Innovative Approach with Extraordinary Results
How does a food grocer from Maine launch a college recruiting program that attracted graduates from prestigious colleges and universities? In this episode, we…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 29: Stepping Into the Unknown
Looking ahead there are more unknowns for families, institutions, and organizations as we emerge from the pandemic. In today’s episode, we take on the…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 28: Why Leaders Need To Be More Curious
In this episode, Bob’nJoyce explore why curiosity is a critical 21st Century leadership skill. It isn't a flavor of the week trend. Curiosity is the bedrock of…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 27: Hats Off to HR/OD Heroes
This episode salutes front line HR/OD professionals who do the tough work every day to move people and organizations forward. These heroes must thread the…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 26: Managing Versus Leading
In this episode, Bob and Joyce talk about the difference between leading and managing. They play with defining both and talk about the blend of leading and…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 25: Making Lemonade from Lemons - Creating Good From Nothing
In this podcast, Bob 'n Joyce talk about unexpected or "no obvious solution" moments where there is no time for a planned OD intervention. They describe what…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 24: Hire Right or Else
In this episode, Bob 'n Joyce talk about the hiring process and the demand on HR/OD to get it right. There is nothing more important to a company’s success…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 23: Guided Imagery – A Powerful Alignment/Visioning Tool
In this episode, Bob 'n Joyce share how the use of guided imagery helped kick off a profound culture shift in the Hannaford Supermarkets of New England. They…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 22: Confronting Burnout as HR/OD Professionals
Bob’N Joyce discuss the pervasive issue of employee and organizational burnout. Once a taboo topic, the pandemic has exposed that it is a real condition, that…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 21: Seeing Through the Bramble of Internal OD Work
OD practitioners wear a lot of hats. In this episode, Bob’nJoyce sort through these many hats using the Global OD Model developed by ODN. This model defines…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 20: Our Turn - Common HR/OD Flaws and Why They Matter
Turnabout is fair play. In this episode, Bob’n Joyce discuss common OD/HR leadership flaws and their unintended consequences. HR/OD professionals, like CEO’s…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 19: CEO Flaws and Why They Matter
CEOs are human and, as a result, imperfect. They all possess flaws that if left unattended, diminish both their impact as well as that of the team reporting to…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 18: Culture – An Invisible Power
A company needs a culture that supports the business and energizes its employees. In this episode, Bob ‘n Joyce: • Attempt to define what culture is and why it…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 17: Honor Thy Managers
In this episode, Bob’nJoyce focus on line supervisors, and middle managers who are critical to getting the important work done. Unfortunately, this group is…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 16: 10 Criteria for a CEO/OD Partnership to do Bold Work Together
In this episode, Joyce shares the criteria that she and the CEOs she's worked with agreed to that enabled them to do bold work. She demonstrates the benefits…
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEpisode 15: Managing the Discomfort of Transition
In this episode, we dig into the challenge of keeping an organization moving forward in times of turbulent transition. Bob ‘n Joyce share resources that have…