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Or So They Say ...
If local legends, lore, and laughter are your thing, tune in to our podcast where we travel small town USA, one ghostly tale at a time.
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Ep.194 Homestake Opera House
Sometimes the spookiest of things are found in the most unexpected places. Take, for instance, the small city of Lead, South Dakota. We're not sure how we…
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Ep.193 Brushy Mountain State Penitentiary
Welcome back to the rolling hills of Tennessee. This week we are in the teeny tiny town of Petros, which apparently has a lot more to offer than would…
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Ep.192 Omni Grove Park Inn
We're back on the mainland of the United States, and we're hitting the ground running in Asheville, North Carolina. This is arguably one of the fanciest…
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Ep.191 Spooky 4th of July
Well, it's (almost) the 4th of July, and we've decided to celebrate the best way we know how, by talking about spooky stuff. Turns out not even America's…
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Ep.190 La Croix Virgin Islands
Well, we've found ourselves at the end of our US territory run, and what better place to end it than in the Virgin Islands? We've never been there before, but…
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Ep.189 Palmyra Atoll
We'll all learn a new word today as we discuss the atoll (pronounced "at-uhl" apparently?) that is Palmyra. Much like ghosts, it's not the things that you see…
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Ep.188 Teatro Guayama
Happy Thursday, everyone, and welcome to Puerto Rico! Even in territories over a thousand miles away you know we're going to manage to find a haunted theater…
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Ep.187 The Sycamore Building
Well, we've ventured out once again. Honestly, we had thought we hit all spooky locations Terre Haute had to offer, but boy were we wrong. The trip sort of…
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Twin Tangent 16: Why is it called...
We've talked colloquialisms before, we've talked etymology, and this is still in that umbrella, but sometimes there are names for things that just don't make…
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Ep.186 Saipan Island
We could have taken the low hanging fruit and talked about Marianas Trench (the place and the band) all episode, but we saved you all from that 10 hour…
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Ep.185 Guam
Guam may be part of a larger territory, but there is so much happening in this one spot it warranted its own episode. The taotaomona are honestly giving us…
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Ep.184 The Village of Ofu Manu'a
Sandy beaches, crashing waves, peaceful seclusion, you know, except for the ghosts. Who would've thought that paradise could be so spooky? What kind of haunted…
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Listener Episode 17
Well, a little late is better than never, so here we are on a Friday. And not just any Friday, but the first Friday of the month! So you know what that means…
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Ep.183 The Capitol Building
We've made our way around the 50 states twice now, so what was left to do? How could we possibly forgot the territories that make America what it is? So we…
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Ep.182 Jailer's Inn Bed & Breakfast
Another week, another episode. But not just another episode, this one is going to round out our trip around the US for the second time! Time is an illusion…
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Ep.181 The Kaminski House and Museum
South Carolina, what can we say? One of the oldest states in the country, it's bound to be rife with haunted history. The stories must be immaculate and…
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Ep.180 The Windsor Hotel
We're always excited for an episode in Georgia, they never seem to disappoint. And this time seems to be no different. We get a few different accounts of the…
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Ep.179 Roanoke Island
Well, what a journey this one took us on, in storytelling and literally. We're all for setting the mood, but maybe the weather could chill out a little next…
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Ep.178 Sailor's Creek Battlefield
Nothing sets you up for paranormal success quite like the ever ticking hands of time. This really was the battle to end all battles for it's time with hundreds…
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Listener Episode 16
Well, would you look at that; it's the first Thursday of the month! And a listener episode, no less. It's been a minute since we've shared some of your…
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Ep.177 Holy Hill
Holy hell, we're at Holy Hill! But for real, this week we are in Wisconsin at one of the states more mysterious locations. This place has interesting history…
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Ep.176 Sterling Opera House
Welcome back to another episode! You guys will be so proud at how many musical references we didn't make this week! Trust us, we are kicking ourselves for…
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Ep.175 Old Adrian Hospital
It's almost as if we never left. We are back in Punxsutawney, Pennsylvania this time discussing the Old Adrian Hospital. We are always excited to cover these…
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Ep.174 Bader Hotel
Welcome to another first Thursday with your favorite spooky twins. And boy are we about to spoil you today, because we made it to a physical location this…
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Twin Tangent 15: Interview with Cole Gray
It's everyone's favorite time of the month, our fifth Thursday Twin Tangent! 🎉 And this week we have a special one for you. We got the opportunity to sit down…
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Ep.173 Maple Hill Cemetery
Welcome back to another rousing episode! This week we're heading south to Huntsville Alabama and the Maple Hill Cemetery. We know cemeteries are always set up…
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Ep.172 The Virginian Hotel
Welcome back to another episode, and on a Saturday no less! We're glad you could join us in Medicine Bow, Wyoming for a surprisingly fruitful visit to the…
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Ep.171 The Ladd School
Happy new year, everyone! We're glad you could join us for another year full of hauntings and hopefully more happenings. We hope to have a lot in store for…
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Ep.170 The Bennington Triangle
Well, Vermont gave us a doozy this week. We're stepping a little off of our usual beaten path (pun intended), and instead exploring the Bennington Triangle and…
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Ep.169 Stone Lion Inn
Oh Oklahoma, you never fail to disappoint. This week we're in Guthrie, and it's always the locations we have mildly high hopes for that pull through for us…
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Ep.168 The Spy House
New Jersey can be a scary place. For its ghosts, obviously, and Port Monmouth is (allegedly) full of them. We get not one, but two psychic mediums to helps us…
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Ep.167 Museum of Prisons
Happy Thanksgiving, everyone! And good gravy do we have a longer one for you. Who knew there could be this much activity in one location? We follow Paranormal…
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Ep.166 Yorktown Memorial Hospital
Another Thursday, and guess who's back to grace us with her presence? That's right, Kelsey with her still slightly sultry voice is here to help Meghan weave a…
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Ep.165 Angola Indiana Hauntings
We're back ... well, one of us is. Kelsey is sorry she couldn't make it, but Meghan is joined by a special guest for this weeks episode. And wouldn't you know…
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Twin Tangent 14: Happy Halloween!
Well, as much as we love October, this has been a very long month, so we decided to end it on a light hearted note. We tell you our this or that fall style…
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Beyond the Closet with Kelsey Ep.9
Did you miss us? It feels like it's been so long, but just like it was yesterday. Thanks for joining us for our week of love bombing you while also powering…
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Ep.164 The Bullock Hotel
Funny seeing you guys here again! This is no mistake, we're back two days in a row because, you know what? You deserve it. This is our second episode on our…
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A Morbid Minute with Meghan: Episode 13
If there is one thing we won’t shy away from on these segments, is the morbid (it’s in the name, ya’ know). And this week’s episode is especially touchy. With…
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Ep.163 Stuckey's Bridge
Well, we've found ourselves crossing yet another bridge, this time in Meridian Mississippi. What is it about bridges that attract ghosts so much? Maybe in this…
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Ep.162 Farrington's Grove Historic Tour: Part1
If you're reading this, we made it out of the spider's den, and have successfully gotten this episode to you! But we are back in our stomping grounds of Terre…
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Ep.161 The Sunkist Factory
No need to panic, everyone. We're back, and boy have we missed you! If you haven't gotten enough of the hot weather don't worry, because we're taking you to…
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Ep.160 The Mizpah Hotel
A town of many pronunciations, welcome to Tonopah, Nevada and the Mizpah Hotel. We've encountered a lot of ladies in our line of work, and this location is no…
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Ep.159 Favorite Fall Movies
It's finally autumn (in our minds), and if there's one thing we love as much as ghost hunting, its spooky/fall movies, and apparently we'll talk about them all…
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Twin Tangent 13
Happy 4 year anniversary everyone! We honestly can't believe we've been doing this for four years, but we have, and every year gets a little better. We've had…
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Ep.158 The Dumas Brothel
Hold on to your "Butte"s everyone, cause Montana really took us on a trip this time. Who would've thought in a town like Butte, MT in a building called Dumas…
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Ep.157 Hurricane Mills
Welcome to Hurricane Mills, Tennessee, which is also Hurricane Forge? Which is also also Loretta Lynn's Ranch? Regardless, there be some ghosts in these hills…
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Ep.156 The Strand Cinema
Well this one threw us for a bit of a loop. Who would've guessed that there were multiple strand cinemas not only in general, but within hours of each other in…
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Ep.9 Beyond the Closet with Kelsey "Teaser"
So, we're not sure if you ever got a sneak peak of Kelsey's patreon series "Beyond the Closet", but if you have, then no you haven't, and we're doing it again!…
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Ep.155 Fort Delaware
Another "Thursday", another ghost story, another haunted military fort. But you know what, it hasn't let us down before, so why stop now? Some say it's the…
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Ep.154 The Beattie Mansion
Welcome to beautiful Saint Joseph, Missouri! Home of the life of Eminem, the death of Jesse James, and the haunting of the Beattie Mansion. They definitely had…
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Ep.153 Glenn Dale Hospital
Welcome back to another wonderful Thursday with your favorite spooky podcast. This week we are in Glenn Dale, Maryland; an interesting "city" adopted as a…
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Ep.152 Forest Hill Cemetery
We love cemeteries so much that gosh darn it we traveled to another one. Welcome to Forest Hill Cemetery in Greencastle, Indiana. Listen along as we recall our…
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Ep.151 Traverse City State Hospital
We've been looking forward to covering Michigan. It's one of Kelsey's favorite places to travel, and, arguably, one of the most beautiful states in America…
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Ep.150 Squirrel Cage jail
This week we are at the sister location of one of our favorite investigations to date, the Crawfordsville Rotary Jail. Another rotary jail, this one being the…
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Ep.149 Freetown Fall-River State Park
Welcome to another week of ghost stories with your favorite twins. This time we are in another state park, this time in Massachusetts, and some of the…
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Listener Episode 15
Well we haven't seen one of these in a while, and we're glad we could compile more of your own ghost stories to share with the world, or at least our…
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Twin Tangent 12: Reality TV Nightmares
We all know reality television is low key a nightmare as it is, but what if we took reality tv and made it, somehow, even worse? You get some of the most…
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Ep.148 The Sallie House
Another week, another haunt. This week we are in Atchison Kansas chasing down the ghost of a girl whose last thoughts were that of torture and abandonment. Her…
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Ep.147 The Red Onion Saloon
Well, it seems we've found ourselves at another bar and brothel, but every time has a pretty good time, so why not do it again. The small saloon in Alaska has…
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Ep.146 Lake Shawnee Amusement Park
Well it feels like forever since we've been back, but Kelsey's back from vacation, so now we're here, and we hope we don't disappoint. We haven't talked ghosts…