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Or So They Say ...
If local legends, lore, and laughter are your thing, tune in to our podcast where we travel small town USA, one ghostly tale at a time.
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Or So They Say ...Twin Tangent Ep.22
Well, we're back again with another disjointed but still hopefully entertaining and rousing twin tangent. This time we talk conventions, networking, spooky…
Or So They Say ...Ep.247 The Tilton Inn
You know we love a good New England state, so we are back in Tilton, New Hampshire with a wild one for you. She may be small, but she's mighty, and has grabbed…
Or So They Say ...Ep.246 Yuma Territorial Prison
Well, this one was a doozy to get through, and we don't just mean the length of it. The history is rich and vast, the spirits could be innumerous given the…
Or So They Say ...Ep.245 Kennesaw Mountain National Battlefield Park
Welcome back for another rousing episode! This week we are in Kennesaw, GA with another historical haunt. We've been to our fair share of haunted open fields…
Or So They Say ...Ep.244 The Wilson House
Forget leaf peepin, we're going spirit peepin at the Wilson Castle in Proctor, Vermont. She's a little town, but that's the way we like it, and even though…
Or So They Say ...Ep.243 The Rockwood Manison
We went a little light hearted for you this time. We've found a location so nice it seems that its residents didn't want to leave, during their lives, or even…
Or So They Say ...Ep.242 The Magnolia Hotel
Another day, another haunted hotel. You know what, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Instead, investigate it, and that is what a number of notable paranormal…
Or So They Say ...Ep.241 SS Princess Sophia
Well, it seems every time we go unconventional it works more than in our favor, and we think this time we got a little more than we bargained for. There's no…
Or So They Say ...Ep.240 Stark Saloon Pt 2
Happy birthday to us!! We've been at this for 6 years now, and we're hoping to go for another 6 at least. And we've decided to gift you and ourselves another…
Or So They Say ...Ep.239 The Argo Hotel
We're feeling rejuvenated, revivified, and reinvigorated. In light of a very special anniversary coming up we feel ourselves going back to our roots. Big…
Or So They Say ...Ep.238 Helgeson Hotel
This is a testament to never doubt yourself, or feel like you're not enough. We went into this episode out of Orofino, Idaho thinking it would be as exciting…
Or So They Say ...Ep.237 Nu'uanu Pali Lookout
Finally, we get to get away, even if it's just vicariously through ghost stories. Welcome to tropical Kaneohe, HI. We sure try our best on these…
Or So They Say ...Twin Tangent Ep.21
Every time one of these comes around it feels like the first time in a long time. You all put up with our distracted antics each episode, and now, finally, we…
Or So They Say ...Ep.236 Molly's Hollow
We find ourselves back in Kansas, an unsuspecting state who keeps their haunted claims to a reasonable level. Atchison is apparently a hub for the hauntings…
Or So They Say ...Ep.235 The Purple Church
We tried to steer ourselves in a different direction this time in Spencer, Oklahoma. It's been a while since we've covered a church, and this one is giving big…
Or So They Say ...Ep.234 Edinburgh Manor
Welcome back from our mini .. vacation? staycation? mentallyawaycation? Whatever it was we are back , and we're talking ghosts. As always, we've got some bold…
Or So They Say ...Ep.233 Myrtles Plantation
We've had claims of the most haunted locations in cities, in states, and even in the country, but Louisiana is claiming to have one of the most haunted places…
Or So They Say ...Ep.232 Island Hotel
This location has just what you're looking for on your next vacation: the sun, the waves, and the ghosts. The Island Hotel in Cedar Key has a rich history, but…
Or So They Say ...Ep.231 Ashmore Estates the Sequel
We weren't sure if we'd ever come back to this location, but as fate would have it, we finally made it happen. This has been a full circle moment two decades…
Or So They Say ...Ep.230 Letchworth Village
Well, we're back in New York in the unsuspecting hamlet of Thiells. Some may overlook a "city" of this size, but not us. One, because it's in our tagline, and…
Or So They Say ...Ep.229 Cresson Sanitorium and Prison
A lady of many talents, these grounds have seen it all. A TB facility, a prison, a hospital, some of them at the same time. They tried their best, but TB and…
Or So They Say ...Ep.228 Middlegate Station Part 2
Well, we didn't intend for a click bait moment on the last episode, but we are glad we came back for a part two of this location. The first cover of this…
Or So They Say ...Ep.227 Middlegate Station
We've said it once, and we'll say it again. It is literally always the least suspecting places that come out swinging, and this small Nevada town is no…
Or So They Say ...Ep.226 The Clayton House
Another week, another episode, this time in Fort Smith, Arkansas. Did we accidently look up Kansas for a second because the internet has rotted our brain? Yes…
Or So They Say ...Twin Tangent Ep.20
Here it is, folks, a true tangent for the books. Lord knows we always have some asides throughout our episodes, so we decided to let loose, and see if those…
Or So They Say ...Ep.225 Fort Knox
You must be thinking "Wow, Fort Knox, I'm sure that's definitely THE Fort Knox", because any really smart person would think that, right? Cause we sure …
Or So They Say ...Ep.224 The Devil's Tower
We've talked about locations rich with history, but now we're covering a location that is just simply rich. This is such a beautiful affluent neighborhood, we…
Or So They Say ...Ep.223 Manteno Mental Hospital
We're back hanging out with our neighbors to the west, Illinois. This could've been a day trip for us, and we would have loved to go, but for .. reasons, it…
Or So They Say ...Ep.222 Thornewood castle
We may be in the states, but this castle has traveled far across space AND time, standing for over five hundred years. Chester Thorne showed us with a little…
Or So They Say ...Ep.221 The Exchange Hotel Civil War Medical Museum
She's a location of many .. MANY names, but it's not just for show. She's been through some stuff, and has actually stood as all of these things. Especially…
Or So They Say ...Ep.220 The Drish House
Oh, Alabama, what you do to us. Not that we didn't have any faith, but this was a surprisingly haunted location. I mean, that's just what we think. So give it…
Or So They Say ...Ep.219 Montana Paranormal
If you're looking for wide open spaces Montana might just be the place for you. But what they're lacking in their corporeal population they make up for in…
Or So They Say ...E.218 Al. Ringling Mansion
No, you're not seeing things. We're really back, folks! Sometimes you just need to recognize when you need to take a break from something, and we sure did, but…
Or So They Say ...Ep.217 The Bigelow Hotel and Residence
Happy Thursday, and boy do we have a doozy for you today. Not necessarily in terms of the recording, but this location is wild. Like, we know some places have…
Or So They Say ...Ep.216 The Glore Psychiatric Hospital
We're getting big Alton vibes from this location, but this week we find ourselves in St. Joseph, MO at one of the more interesting museums we've come across…
Or So They Say ...Twin Tangent 19
We've got a true tangent for you today. No reason, no rhyme, just some hootin and hollerin about our current shows/fixations/games/what have you. We always…
Or So They Say ...Ep.215 The Palmer House Hotel
Well folks, we're almost to the end of January already, which is crazy, but let's go out on a high note. This Minnesota location surprised and delighted us. We…
Or So They Say ...Ep.214 Bodie Ghost Town
Well, we're excited to cover another ghost town, because it has been a while since our last run in with these. We're extra excited to cover one in California…
Or So They Say ...Ep.213 La Lunas Mansion
Luna-Otera, La Luna, The Luna. A mansion of many names, but still a mansion nonetheless (and if you heard Kelsey say it wrong in the intro, no you didn't)…
Or So They Say ...Ep.212 Happy New Year
Just a little light stuff to bring in the new year. But don't be fooled, this year is gonna be jam packed, so strap in, folks. Good luck in 2026 everyone, this…
Or So They Say ...Ep.211 OSTS Christmas 2025
Happy Holidays, and we hope you all enjoy a lighthearted Christmas episode where we talk miracles, weather that is unseasonably warm, and one of our favorite…
Or So They Say ...Ep.210 Wyoming Frontier Prison
We find ourselves back at another prison, but there's a reason we keep coming back. Some have had darker histories than others, but we gotta say, this one is…
Or So They Say ...Ep.209 Natchez City Cemetery & the Witch of Yazoo City
Mississippi, double the necessary letters for a word, and double the paranormal hotspots, apparently. We're checking out two cities today, because both stories…
Or So They Say ...Ep.208 Mass Psychogenic Illness
We can barely believe it ourselves, but it's already December, and the top of the month which means another grab bag of an episode. This one has an over arcing…
Or So They Say ...Ep.207 Remington Arms
Happy Thanksgiving to all celebrating, and welcome back to another riveting episode of "Or So They Say". You'll never believe this, but we're here today to…
Or So They Say ...Ep.206 Russell Battery
It's been a while since we've found ourselves on a military base, but they always seem to find their way back to us. This time we're all the way out in…
Or So They Say ...Ep.205 The Old Hospital on College Hill
The name is long, but the history is longer. And tragic. Which is sad for them. But great for us. Cause that means ghosts! Well, hopefully anyway. And there's…
Or So They Say ...Twin Tangent 18: OSTS Halloween 2025
It's TIIIIIMMMMEEEEEE! Halloween is here and we are thriving, but after a very busy month we've decided to treat ourselves, and hopefully you, to another fun…
Or So They Say ...Ep.204 Eloise Asylum
Another Thursday, another asylum, but that seems to just come with the territory, doesn't it? This time we're up in Michigan, and we've got a pretty lengthy…
Or So They Say ...Ep.203 The Mudd House Museum
Kelsey doesn't like to consider herself a pessimist, more like a realist, and she'll call BS when she sees it. So did she call it this time on this location?…
Or So They Say ...Ep.202 The Hoosac Tunnel
We know we mention it all the time, but we should have learned after Tunnelton to not underestimate a location as simple as a tunnel. Who would have thought…
Or So They Say ...Ep.201.2 The Conjuring House Pt.2
You're seeing correctly, it's not Thursday, and this is not a duplicate episode, we're back in Rhode Island at the Conjuring House! We learned from our last…
Or So They Say ...Ep.201 The Conjuring House
It's the most wonderful time of the year! October is finally here, and we decided to kick it off big with one of the most recognizable haunted locations to…
Or So They Say ...Ep.200 Happy 200th!
Well, we made it, 200! Of course not without a few bumps, illnesses, and god knows what else along the way, but better late than never. So we tried to put…
Or So They Say ...Ep.199 The Brown Palace Hotel
We're back in good old Colorado. It may not be a small town this time, but the big cities still have some hauntings to share. We may have had some doubts about…
Or So They Say ...Ep.198 Bonanzaville, North Dakota
The location name: wild, the intro topics: unhinged, but the hauntings? Well, brother, we hope you're prepared, cause we sure weren't. We've always said some…
Or So They Say ...Ep.197 The Gill House
Oh, Ohio, you've done it again. The history may be the run of the mill stuff at this point, but the hauntings didn't disappoint. This time we're following…
Or So They Say ...Ep.196 Gaines Tavern
Is it a house? Is it a tavern? Is it a museum? Honestly, we don't know, but you know what we do know? She sure is haunted. So let's dive into the southern…
Or So They Say ...Ep.195 Watts Family Home
If we had a nickel for every time we've cried on this podcast in recent history, we'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it's happened…
Or So They Say ...Twin Tangent 17:Feuds and Rivalries
Every time a twin tangent comes around it feels like it's been long overdue. We've been itching to stray from our usual path, and we've landed on some good old…