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Or So They Say ...
If local legends, lore, and laughter are your thing, tune in to our podcast where we travel small town USA, one ghostly tale at a time.
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Ep.145 Duluth Minnesota
We're feeling at home this week back in the Midwest, this time in Duluth Minnesota. A ship, turned attraction, turned haunted house actually has some haunted…
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Ep.144 Louisiana State Capitol(s)
How could a state have two state capitols? Well, Louisiana does, and wouldn't you know it they both have seriously dark pasts and potential paranormal…
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Ep.143 Brookdale Lodge
We finally did it everyone, our first episode in our new studio! There's still some work to be done, but we hope eventfully all of it will come together soon…
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Ep.142 Crawfordsville/Linden
Well, we sure did travel for this months location, but sometimes some legends are better left to the imagination, right?.. Well, lore may say that Linden has…
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Ep.141 The Allen House
This week we're taking you all to Monticello, Arkansas to investigate a house with a pretty sad backstory. The Allen family couldn't seem to catch a break, and…
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Ep.140 The Kasha House of Kaimuki
Given the finnicky weather we've been having in the Midwest lately, we're glad to be living vicariously through our location today, Honolulu, Hawaii. According…
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Ep.139 St. James Hotel
Honestly, we were a little worried about New Mexico delivering a good old fashioned haunted location, but of course they delivered. We always love a good…
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Ep.138 The Stark Saloon
This month our travels brought us a little closer to home as we investigated the (fairly) newly opened location of the Historic Stark Saloon in Rosedale…
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Twin Tangent 11: Current Fixations
We always love when a tangent rolls along, then we have a dedicated time and space to actually go off topic, but still stay on topic, you know? Anyway, when…
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Ep.137 Enders Hotel and Museum
Who knew Idaho could have some unbelievably spooky places? And we mean unbelievable. Some of the evidence people have found here is almost too good to be true…
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Ep.136 Koreshan State Park
Well, Florida is un/fortunately a treasure trove of interesting things and happenings, and cults really shouldn't have surprised us. Koreshan Unity had a…
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Ep.135 Amos J Blake House Museum
They say the older the building the more haunted it's likely to be, and with a nearly 200 year old building in a 250 year old town we'd say this is a pretty…
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Ep.134 McCann Manor Poor House
Holy cow, it's finally happened. After a long dry spell we have finally investigated a location ourselves! This location came to us from a friend of a friend…
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Ep.133 San Haven Sanitorium
Sanitorium? Sanitarium? Is there really a difference? Well, that depends on who you ask (of course..) Either way, that's where we are, this time in North…
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Ep.132 One if by Land, Two if by Sea Restaurant
New York City is anything but small town America, but we can never resist a good historical background. This building has been around for over 200 years, and…
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Ep.131 Govan Washington Schoolhouse
Our first visit in 2024 is to Washington state, and of course the first city that comes to mind would be Govan, right? Don't worry, we hadn't heard of it…
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Ep.130 New Year, New OSTS
Maybe they're a little cheesy, but we've decided to hold ourselves accountable and fill you guys in on our new years resolutions this year. This podcast has…
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Ep.129 Shanghai Tunnels
So, Portland, OR may not be "small town America", but sometimes a haunt is just too god to pass up, and with claims like most haunted place on earth, how could…
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Ep.128 Christmas Crimes
Happy holidays, everyone! It's just a few days before Christmas, and nothing says Christmas like talking true crime apparently. We'll cover some lighthearted…
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Ep.127 Centennial Hall Museum
Well, it seems our (virtual) travels have brought us to the wonderful state of Nebraska this week. We really went with small town America on this one and have…
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Ep.126 Madison, IN Part 2
Like the last three Decembers, Kelsey and Madi traveled down to Madison Indiana. And like the last three Decembers, more spooky things fell into their laps. A…
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Twin Tangent 10: Etymology
Welcome to another fifth Thursday with your favorite spooky twins! We have so many everyday phrases and idioms that we constantly use, but do we know why we…
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Ep.125 East Coast Thanksgiving Ghosts
Happy Thanksgiving, spooky crew! We’re glad you’ve decided to join us on a little getaway from family/friend shenanigans. This week we are perusing the east…
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Ep.124 Joliet Prison
Welcome to another rousing episode of Or So They Say, where this week we take you to our neighbors to the WEST (not the east, Kelsey), Illinois! This is…
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Ep.123 Skinwalker Valley
Yes, this is actually the name of the place. There's even a skinwalker ranch right next to it! So why did it get that name? Well, obviously because of all of…
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Ep.122 OSTS Retro Spooky Movie Review
We're back with a crossover for you guys! The retro club has joined us to discuss spooky movies we watched over the month, and our thoughts. This is a pretty…
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Ep.121 Halloween Traditions
Don't worry y'all, we're still alive, and after some much needed vacation and honeymoon time we're back! With all of the events of the past couple weeks…
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Ep.120 McKamey Manor
Well, happy Thursday? With an episode like this, we're not really sure, but let's try to make the best of it shall we? Life is a bit hectic at the moment, so…
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Ep. 119 The Occidental Hotel
Whelp, better late than never. We didn't want to leave you hanging on the last state in our US alphabetical tour! So we brought you this gem from Buffalo, WY…
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Ep.118 Brodhead Manor
Another week another ghost, or how about a whole group of them? This school house turned haunted house turned out to be truly haunted after all, and we're…
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Ep.117 Mothman
You read that right. We're taking a slight detour from our usual spooky ghosts to discuss a different kind of supernatural: Mothman. Why does he hang out in…
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Ep.116 Shades ”of Death” State Park
Shades of Death; a pretty ominous name, you might say. Well, it didn't just get that name for fun. This park actually has a long history, some blips of it…
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Twin Tangent 8: Twin Telepathy
Well it feels like it's been forever since we last spoke, and honestly, it kind of has been. The internet gods have not been on our side, but we are back, and…
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Ep.115 The Lighthouse Oceanfront Resort
Honestly, every part of this title sounds like a good time to us. But you know what else sounds good? Ghosts, and this location has those too; what luck! The…
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Ep.114 Peyton Randolph House
Williamsburg; one of our nations first cities. Established in the 17th century, and with deaths dating back long before then it's no wonder there would be some…
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Ep.113 Billie Creek Village
Who would've thought that the covered bridge capital of the world, small town Rockville, IN would be so full of ghosts? I'm sure they didn't, but here we are…
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Ep.112 Emily’s Bridge
Now we're moving on to the scenic state of Vermont. Not only is the state itself beautiful, but it's another covered bridge? The only thing this location is…
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Ep. 111 Leslie’s Family Tree Restaurant
Another week, another state, another babbling of the minds of Meghan and Kelsey. This time segway-ing our way through Santaquin, Utah. Although this restaurant…
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Ep.110 The Asher Walton House
It's been far too long since our last visited location, and this one was well worth the wait. We had so much time to investigate this house we almost didn't…
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Twin Tangent 8
It always feels like forever between tangents, and we've been impatiently waiting for this one. This time we're covering a couple different topics to give you…
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Ep. 109 The Alamo
Welcome back, on this fine .. Friday morning? Yes, due to some technical difficulties we're a day late, but better late than never, right? And honestly, we…
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Ep.108 The Bell Witch
Welcome back to another riveting episode filled with ghosts, haunted houses, and even scarier ramblings-on. This one was suprisingly packed, so get comfy, and…
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Ep.107 The Adams House
How have we already made it to South Dakota? Apparently time flies when you're telling ghost stories. It was some trial and error to find this location, but…
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Ep.106 Old Jail Inn 2.0
Some places we just can't forget. Sometimes for all the wrong reasons, but thankfully not in this case. We've recalled the Old Jail Inn in Rockville a number…
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Ep.105 Old Charleston Jail
Oh man do we love a good jail! Just something about 'em gets us going. Maybe it's the dark past that's almost certain to provide spirits, or the history behind…
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Ep.104 The Providence Biltmore
Well, we found out there are a number of haunted Biltmore Hotels across the country that we could've chosen from, but we're in Rhode Island today, so we picked…
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Ep.103 Jean Bonnet Tavern
Good Old Pennsylvania; we expected to find a slew of stories with one of the country's first states, and of course we found them at none other than a tavern…
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Ep.102 The Bell Mansion
We've made another trip in state, this time to Fort Wayne, IN. Truthfully, I don't think either of us had been before, but we gotta say: those Victorian…
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Ep.101 Canon Beach/The Bandage Man
Something about a good old-fashioned urban legend just really gets you going, right? Like that's definitely normal, right? Well it is here, and we've found…
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Ep.100 A Walk Down Spooky Lane
We've finally made it. After lots of ups, downs, tears, scares, ghosts, you name it we have finally reached our 100th episode! We couldn't have made it this…
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Ep.99 Fort Washita
It's been a little while, but we are back on the alphabet train through the United States and their spooky stories, this time stopping in Oklahoma. Fort…
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Ep.98 Memphis, TN
It's a first Thursday which means we have a visited location for you! This time though, we were scattered to the winds as Meghan took a trip down south without…
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Twin Tangent 7
We've just been itchin for another tangent, and it's finally here! This time we're going off about scandalous events. Some very much in the public eye, and…
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Ep.97 Ohio State Reformatory
We're back in the Midwest, and doesn't it feel good? Doesn't it?.. Well, this building started with good enough intentions as a reform school for boys, but…
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Ep.96 Harvey Public Library
Another week, another state, another city. This time a small midwestern one, which we can relate, but this is, you know, a fraction of the size. This city of…
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Ep.95 Seven Hearths House
We should've saved the 14 hands wine for this episode, because this house has seen A LOT of people in its nearly 300 years of existing. It served a lot of…
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Ep.94 Fowler Theater/Benton County Courthouse
Alright, so we know we've made promises in the past, and we may not have always followed through, but this time we made sure not to let you down. We made it…
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Ep.93 The Winery at Marjim Manor
We've made it to New York! And to the big apple's lesser known sister city, Appleton.. which isn't even technically a city. This little hamlet of less than…
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Ep.92 Doña Ana Courthouse
Well, we've traveled west to the great American state of New Mexico. What's in New Mexico you may ask? And we would answer "that's a great question!" What we…
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Ep.91 Shades of Jenny Lake in Hope
**SFX/Trigger Warnings** - For those familiar with the sound of a spiritbox, know that we play a small section of evidence from one towards the end of the…