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Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler
Welcome to our podcast! My name is Richard H. Ostler and I am a native of Salt Lake City, small business owner, married father of six with several grandchildren. I believe in and am deeply committed to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and want it to work for a wider group. I am the author of three books: “Listen Learn and Love: Embracing LGBTQ Latter-day Saints” published in 2020 available at Amazon (amazon.com/dp/1462135773) “Listen Learn and Love: Improving Latter-day Saint…
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Episode 807: Candice Clark, LDS Mother of Queer Kids, “No Empty Chairs” Podcast
My friend Candice Clark (mother of 5, lives in Iowa City, Iowa) joins us to share her story of her journey to love, understand, and accept her queer kids—and…
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Episode 806: Emilie Call and Ashlie Sanders (Sisters), That’s Church Podcast, Event on March 8th
My friends Emilie Call (married mother of 4) and Ashlie Sanders (married mother of 3) join us to talk about their podcast they founded, and co-host called…
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Episode 805: Liberty Hansen, Early Release Missionary, Giving Hope to Others
My friend Liberty Hansen (age 20, lives in Spanish Fork Utah, Richmond Virginia RM) joins us to share her story of returning home from her mission after two…
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Episode 804: Hayden Clark, Solving Porn Use
My friend Hayden Clark (age 30, married, father of one, lives in Mesa Arizona, former Utah Dixie State University football player, Phoenix firefighter and…
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Episode 803: Clint and Melinda Mueller, LDS Parents of Two Gay Sons
My friends Clint and Melinda Mueller (live in Litchfield Park, Arizona; BYU grads; forensic engineering business owners) join us to share their story of having…
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Episode 802: Ben Schilaty, Clare Dalton, Liz Macdonald: “All Out In the Open” Podcast
My friends Dr. Ben Schilaty, Clare Dalton, and Liz Macdonald join us to talk about the rebranding of the powerful podcast “Questions From The Closet” to “All…
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Episode 801: Paul W. Peterson, Author “Always Whole: An LDS Perspective on Being While Becoming”
My friend Paul Peterson (married father of 3, lives in Arkansas, Master’s in Marriage and Family Therapy from Valdosta State University, owns/runs his own…
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Episode 800: Oakley Roberts, Age 21, Gay Latter-day Saint
My friend Oakley Roberts (from Payson Utah, RM from Liberia Africa) joins us to share his story. Oakley talks about knowing he was different since age 12, his…
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Episode 799: Kyle Dunshee, New Book, Hope For Others With Mental Health Challenges
*** This episode talks about suicide. If you are suicidal, please call/text/chat *988 *** My friend Kyle Dunshee (age 30, married father with new baby, suicide…
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Episode 798: Dusty Bee, Gay Latter-day Saint, Recently Rebaptized
My friend long-time friend Dusty Bee (late 30s, RM, father of two sons/divorced, was in a same-sex marriage/excommunicated/now divorced, DJ/business owner…
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Episode 797: Dr. Daniel Parkinson, Mentor to LDS Parents with LGBTQ Kids, New Book
Episode 797: Dr. Daniel Parkinson, Mentor to LDS Parents with LGBTQ Kids, New Book by Richard Ostler
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Episode 796: Nathan Kitchen, Affirmation President 2019-2022, New Book
My friend Nathan Kitchen (father of five, RM, dentist, mid-50s, in a same-sex marriage, author, powerful/thoughtful/mature voice in the queer LDS space) joins…
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Episode 795: Tyler Bastian, Founder/Director: Roots High Charter School
My friend Tyler Bastian joins us to talk about Roots High School (located on a 5-acre farm)—a charter school for students who need a different experience—and…
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Episode 794: Emma Westwood Shares About Her Gay Brother Collin Russell Who Died in 2018
My friend Emma Westwood (married mother of 5, nurse at Primary Children's Hospital, Latter-day Saint) joins us to talk about her gay little brother Collin…
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Episode 793: Chloe Siegfried, Suicide Survivor, Same-Sex Marriage, Giving Hope to Others
**This episode talks about suicide. If you are suicidal, please call/text/chat 988** My friend Chloe Siegfried (she/her, gay, age 27, Salt Lake City native…
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Episode 792: Jacob Ostler, LCSW Therapist, Founder International Protention Alliance
Our son Jake Ostler (Undergraduate Degree in Psychology, Master’s Degree in Social Work, Certificate in anti-human trafficking, LCSW, working with sexual…
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Episode 791: Oliver Black, Transgender Man, Mid-20’s, Supporting Transgender Members
My friend Oliver Black (RM, UVU student, grew up in Utah County) joins us to share his story with gender dysphoria and how we can help trans/non-binary…
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Episode 790: Stan Mitchell, Pastor to LGBTQ+ Folk and Families
My friend and mentor Pastor Stan Mitchell (familiar with and friend to Latter-day Saints) joins us to share his story of his changed heart/perspective about…
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Episode 789: Ben Higinbotham, Non-Binary Gay Latter-day Saint
My friend Ben Higinbotham (mid-30s, BYU grad, non-binary, gay, active LDS, RM, they/he/she) joins us to share their story of self-acceptance and personal…
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Episode 788: Tyler Johnson’s New Book “When Church is Hard”
My friend Dr Tyler Johnson (former YSA Bishop, oncologist, clinical assistant professor at Stanford University) joins us to talk about his new book published…
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Episode 787: Colette Dalton, LCSW, The Queer Joy Summit (Nov 17-19)
*Trigger warning: This episode mentions suicide. If you are experiencing suicidal thoughts and are in need of support, please reach out for help by calling…
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Episode 786: Laurie Lee Hall, New Book: “Dictates of Conscience"
My friend Laurie Lee Hall (convert, former Director of LDS Temple Design and Construction, former Stake President, in her early 60s) joins us to share her…
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Episode 785: Hunter Howell, Gay BYU-Idaho Student, Giving Hope/Serving Others
*** This episode talks about suicide. If you are suicidal, please call/text/chat *988 *** My friend Hunter Howell (Bio Medical Science Major, New…
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Episode 784: Heather Prinz, LDS Married Mother of 4, Sexual Assault Survivor
My friend Heather Prinz (lives in Fayetteville Arkansas, Speech Pathologist, Sexual Assault Survivor: Dr. Broadbent OBGYN lawsuit) bravely joins us to share…
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Episode 783: David Smurthwaite, Ministering to Latter-day Saints in Transgender/Non-Binary Spaces
My friend David Smurthwaite (married father of 4, gender expansive, active Latter-day Saints) joins us to share ideas on ministering to anyone struggling with…
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Episode 782: Dr Kristine Coons, Transgender Latter-Day Saint, Understand the Science
My friend Dr. Kristine Coons (active Latter-day Saint, Internal Medicine Physician, came out to her wife in 2014, was on episode 699) joins us to share her…
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Episode 781: Exponent II Celebrates 50 Years with Katie Rich and Heather Sundahl
Guest Host: Tonya Miller Exponent II has played an essential role in creating a shared, safe space for women and gender minorities connected to the Church to…
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Episode 780: Tegan Zelano Blanchard (or “Z”), Recent RM, Bisexual member, Giving Hope to Others
**This episode talks about suicide. If you are suicidal, please call/text/chat 988** My friend Z Blanchard, (lived in Utah, Costa Rica, San Diego and Ecuador…
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Episode 779: Tonya Baker Miller, LCSW, Active LDS, Supporting Transgender Members and Their Families
This episode is dedicated to the loving memory of JeNeal Nichol Miller, who passed away on Pioneer Day this year. She inspired everyone she knew to be…
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Episode 778: Caysen Crum, Gay Latter-day Saint, Age 24, Self-Love/Acceptance
**This episode talks about suicide. If you are suicidal, please call/text/chat 988** My friend Caysen Crum (New Hampshire RM, Southern Utah University Grad…
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Episode 777: Ben Bernards, LDS Father of Two Transgender Daughters
My friend Ben Bernards (lives in Sacramento, RM, current Bishopric member, author, podcaster, EFY speaker, early 40s) joins us to share their family story…
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Episode 776: Michelle and Steve Shaw – Improving Church Culture for Members with Disabilities
Michelle and Steve Shaw are the parents of four children, three of whom have been diagnosed with neurological disabilities, ranging from ADHD to anomalies in…
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Episode 774: John Crane, Late 70s, RM, Believes in Gospel, Same-Sex Marriage
My friend John Crane (lives in Austin TX, grew up in Oregon/Washington, Sweden RM 1966-68, married a woman, has 4 kids and many grandkids, divorced, been with…
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Episode 773: Guillermo Lemus, Faith Crisis/Expansion, Staying LDS
My friend Guillermo Lemus (age 30, BYU grad student, BYU-Idaho grad, married, RM) joins us to share his multi-year journey to process the complicated aspects…
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Episode 772: Bryce Cook, LDS Father of Two Gay Sons, Longtime Ally
My friend and mentor Bryce Cook (married, father of 6 children/7 grandchildren) joins us to talk about how he and his wife Sara navigated the road of having…
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Episode 771: Seth Price, Recent RM, Gay Latter-day Saint
** Trigger Warning. This episode talks about suicide. If you are suicidal, please call, test, chat 988 ** My friend Seth Price (Canadian, Age 20, Service…
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Episode 770: Lori LeVar Pierce, President Exponent II, LGBTQ Ally, Feminist, Active LDS
My friend Lori LeVar Pierce (grew up in the South, BA and MBA from BYU, corporate executive, married mother of three, teacher, lives in Columbus, Mississippi)…
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Episode 769: Jessie Salter and Jett Atwood, Same-Sex Marriage, Attending Church
My friends Jessica Salter and Jett Atwood (gay Latter-day Saint women in a same-sex marriage, attend and believe in Church) join us to share their stories…
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Episode 768: Sarah and Jeff Case, Gather Conference, Gather For Youth
My friends Sarah and Jeff Case (mixed-orientation marriage, active LDS, two queer kids) join us to update listeners on their story, share principles to keep…
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Episode 767: Brenden Krogh, Gay Latter-day Saint, Christ’s Ability to Bring Hope
My friend Brenden Krogh (age 25, grew up in Grantsville/Mona Utah, Lives in St George, Active LDS, RM) joins us to share his story. Brenden talks about his…
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Episode 766: Sarah and Josh Sabey - @forlittlesaints, New Book: Book of Mormon Storybook
This episode is guest-hosted by Tonya Miller. Tonya interviews Sarah and Josh Sabey, who run For Little Saints (@forlittlesaints). Sarah and Josh share the…
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Episode 765: Lilly MacKenzie, Transgender Latter-day Saint, BYU Student
My friend Lilly MacKenzie (3rd year BYU student) joins us to share her story. Lilly talks about her journey (starting in her early years) realizing she was…
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Episode 764: Austin Peterson, Gay Latter-day Saint, Gather Conference, Gather For Youth
My friend Austin Peterson (Ghana RM, BYU Grad, FSY Leader, Gather Event Coordinator) joins us to share his story. Austin starts with his journey to accept…
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Episode 763: Spencer Smith, Gay Latter-day Saint
My friend Spencer Smith (age 31, ER attending pharmacist, BYU grad, active LDS) join us to share his story. Spencer (oldest of five; grew up in Sacramento)…
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Episode 762: Todd (gay) and Tanya (straight) Hughes, Recently Divorced, Staying Close
My friends Todd and Tanya Hughes (live in Ventura County CA, married for 29 years, recently divorced, still best friends) join us to share their story. Todd…
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Episode 761: Dr. Jeremy Kerrigan, Age 40, Gay Latter-day Saint, Recently Out
**This podcast mentions suicide. If you are suicidal, please call/text chat 988** My friend Jeremy Kerrigan (LDS convert, married father of 5, Arizona native…
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Episode 760: Glen “Mateo” Bass; Bisexual Latter-day Saint, Rebaptized 2024, Sharing Hope
**This podcast mentions suicide. If you are suicidal, please call/text chat 988** My friend Glen Bass (father of two, lives in Utah County, left church 2018…
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Episode 759: Dr. Kerry Spencer Pray, New Book: “The Book of Queer Mormon Joy”
My friend Dr. Kerry Spencer Pray (lives in Maryland, Associate Professor at Sevenson University, married to her wife Heather, mother of two, taught at BYU for…
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Episode 758: Jaci Wightman - Wellness Coach, Healing From Compulsive Eating and Sugar Addiction
This episode is guest-hosted by Tonya Miller. Tonya interviews Jaci Wightman, who shares her compelling story of recovery from dependence on food, and on sugar…
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Episode 757: Haymitch St. Stephen, New Book about Forgiveness (Ourselves and Others)
My friend Haymitch St. Stephen (BYU degree, Stanford graduate degree, mid 30s, SLC native, Latter-day Saint) joins us to talk about his new book called “Friend…
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Episode 756: Hannah Russell, Asexual Latter-day Saint
My friend Hannah Russell (married mother of three, PhD, lives in Cincinnati, active Latter-day Saint) joins us to share her story of being asexual out of a…
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Episode 755: Kate Kendrick and her non-binary child Morgan
My friends Kate Kendrick (she/her) and her non-binary child Morgan (they/them) join us to share their story. Kate, who is no longer active LDS, joins us to…
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Episode 754: David Ostler “Healing our Divides: Answering the Savior’s Call to be Peacemakers.”
My good brother David (author of “Bridges: Ministering to Those Who Question”) joins us to talk about his new book which gives readers a gospel-based framework…
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Episode 753: Arthur Wiseman, Recently Returned Gay LDS Missionary
My friend Arthur Wiseman (who returned from his successful mission in Gilbert Arizona in Dec of 2023, plans to become a therapist, and returned to live in…
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Episode 752: Kyle Jones, M.D., Author
** This podcast mentions suicide. If you are suicidal, please call/text chat 988** Guest host Tonya Miller interviews Kyle Jones, M.D., who talks about his…
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Episode 751: Jashon Fabia, Author: “Swirling in the Eddy: LDS, Filipino, & Gay”
My friend Jashon Ray Fabia (Age 33, single, LDS, RM, BYU-H grad in Psychology and Music, finishing Master's in Music Therapy) bravely shares his story as a…
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Episode 750: Erik Thompson, Gay Latter-day Saint, Overcoming Addiction, Finding Hope in Christ
**This episode talks about suicide. If you are suicidal, please call/text/chat *988** My friend Erik Thompson (Age 40, single, active LDS, RM) bravely shares…
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Episode 749: Cameo & Cooper Johnson, LDS Parents of a Queer Daughter
My friends Cameo and Cooper Johnson (LDS parents of 4 children, live in Flagstaff AZ, Psychiatric Mental Health Nurse Practitioners) join us to share their…
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Episode 748: Nate Miller, Gay, Age 26
My friend Nate Miller (grew up in Davis County, lives in Salt Lake County, Philippines RM, U of U graduation, no longer attending church) joins us to share his…
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Episode 747: James Smart, Gay Latter-day Saint, Recent RM, BYU Student
My friend James Smart (RM, age 20, from Rexburg Idaho, Santa Rosa CA missionary, at BYU) joins us to bravely share his story. James starts with reading his…