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Navigating Noise
Navigating Noise is a weekly interview show about how critical decisions get made when the data behind them breaks down. Hosts Jonathan Teubner, founder of AI intelligence company FilterLabs, and Erol Yayboke, former Pentagon deputy chief of staff, talk with analysts, operators, and decision-makers working in intelligence and information operations. Each episode asks one question: how do you know what's actually happening in places that are hard to see? Season 2 covers the data supply chain…
Episodes
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The Influence Operation That Never Sent a Single Message | Stephen Hunnewell
Navigating Noise is a weekly interview show about how the world's most critical decisions get made, and what happens when the data behind them breaks down…
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How to Fill an Information Vacuum Before Your Enemy Does with Kristian Ljungberg
On February 4, 2025, ten people were murdered at a school in Örebro, the deadliest mass shooting in Sweden's history. Then came a silence that the internet…
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Why People Believe AI Videos Even When They Know They're Fake
In May, Ukrainians woke up to an avalanche of posts about hundreds of thousands of migrants flooding into their country, exempt from the draft, replacing…
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How to Tell What's Real Online in the Age of AI Bots | Tetiana Haiduchyk
For 6 years, Tetiana Haiduchyk has run a controlled experiment most people never hear about. Her team goes onto the open market, pays a few hundred euros for…
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Why the US Keeps Losing the Wars It Spends the Most to Win | Dr. Joshua “Bugsy” Segal
For ten years, Dr. Joshua "Bugsy" Segal's job was certainty. As a US arms-control negotiator and on-site weapons inspector (the Chemical Weapons Convention…
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NATO's StratCom Director Breaks Down the AI Information War | Jay Janzen
In 2024, Jay Janzen told this show weaponized AI content was "minutes away." Two years later he's back with a blunt update: "We're definitely there." And the…
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Introducing Filter Labs’ New CEO: Why We Made the Transition and What’s Next
On July 1, 2026, Jonathan Teubner walked out of the CEO seat at Filter Labs and Erol Yayboke sat down in it. This conversation was recorded that same…
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How Iran Won the Internet with Memes While Losing the War with Blaise Misztal
America won the war against Iran on the ground and lost it on the screen. Iran's axis of resistance has collapsed, its proxies are spent, its nuclear program…
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Why War With China Is NOT Inevitable with U.S.-China Relations Expert Ali Wyne
When Trump called a meeting with Xi Jinping "the G-2," he may have admitted something Washington has spent years avoiding: China is no longer a rising…
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How Microsoft Predicted the Ukraine War Before the Pentagon with CSIS Director Emily Harding
When Russia invaded Ukraine, it wasn't a general who saw it coming first… it was Microsoft. Sensors planted across Ukraine picked up a massive spike in…
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Why Truth Is More Dangerous Than Lies in an Information War | Maggie Feldman-Piltch
Maggie Feldman-Piltch calls herself a propagandist, and she means it. She made stickers of Putin's face with the Barbie movie font that spread to over two…
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How to (Actually) Apply New Technology to Irregular Warfare, with Nickolas Wilcox @ CACI
Nickolas Wilcox is a Senior Program Manager at CACI International and one of the lead practitioners shaping the future of irregular warfare and operations in…
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→ How UFOs, Data, and Counterculture Collide: Chrissy Newton on Alien Encounters & Government Transparency
In this episode of Navigating Noise, host Erol Yayboke sits down with Chrissy Newton, Founder of VOCAB Communications. They dive into the world of UFOs and…
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Why the U.S.–China Relationship Feels So Tense Right Now, with Rorry Daniels, Managing Director, Asia Society Policy Institute
A new normal? In this episode, Rorry Daniels, Managing Director of the Asia Society Policy Institute, and Erol Yayboke discuss U.S. - China competition and the…
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Rethinking Demographics, Power, and the Future, with Dr. Jen Sciubba, President & CEO of Population Reference Bureau
The world is changing faster than our assumptions can keep up.In this episode of Navigating Noise, Erol Yayboke sits down with world-renowned demographer and…
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Why Media Isn’t Dying—It’s Just Getting Smarter with AI, with Dmitry Shishkin, CEO of Ringier Media International, Switzerland
What happens when generative AI floods the internet with content—but journalists are the only ones who can still read between the lines?In this episode of…
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From Silicon Valley to Sovereignty: Tech’s Great Power Reckoning, with Ansgar Baums
What happens when the tech industry is no longer built for global scale—but for geopolitical advantage?In this episode of Navigating Noise, Jonathan Teubner…
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Weaponized AI, Women’s Influence Networks, and Why Defense Tech Fails with Maggie Feldman-Piltch
Generative AI isn’t just changing technology—it’s rewriting the rules of information warfare, influence, and decision-making.In this episode of Navigating…
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How AI’s Acceleration is Reshaping Power, Trust, and Decision-Making, with Azeem Azhar, Founder of Exponential View
Jonathan Teubner talks with Azeem Azhar, author of "The Exponential Age," about how to navigate the rapidly advancing world of AI, particularly large language…
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Why You’ll Never Find the Perfect Source (And Why That’s Ok), with Erol Yayboke, Chief Research Officer at Filter Labs
Join us for an insightful conversation with Erol Yayboke, who recently joined Filter Labs as the Chief Research Officer, after holding roles at CSIS, USAID…
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Why Your Local Community Holds the Key to Fixing Global Politics (And How Leaders Keep Missing It), with Adrian Pabst
In this conversation on Navigating Noise, Adrian Pabst explored a fundamental tension in contemporary politics: the disconnect between high-level policymaking…
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How American Foreign Policy Will Change Under Trump— and Why You Can Relax, with Peter Pomerantsev
In this conversation on Navigating Noise, Peter Pomerantsev and I explored the shifting landscape of international relations and what it means for America's…
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Jeff Rogg on Why Open Source Intelligence Could Be Hurting the Future of National Security
The historical evolution of American intelligence offers a lens through which to understand today’s complex national security challenges. As the information…
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The Human Side of Data: Insights on Conflict, Policy, and Progress
The world is messy. Wars rage, governments falter, and institutions scramble to find clarity in a sea of uncertainty. Jake Shapiro is skilled at making sense…
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Trust and Information in a Changing World: Insights from Ellen McCarthy
In a recent episode of Navigating Noise, I had the privilege of speaking with Ellen McCarthy, CEO of the Trust in Media Cooperative and former Assistant…
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From CIA to Datenna: How Martijn Rasser Tracks the Global Tech Frontier
What happens when national security becomes a question of data—and who wields it best? In this episode of Navigating Noise, I sat down with Martijn Rasser…
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Understanding The Russia-China Alliance: Leverage, Friction, and the Road Ahead, with Sasha Gabuev
Why are Russia and China closer than ever—and what could eventually pull them apart? In this episode of Navigating Noise, I sat down with Sasha Gabuev…
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Reframing U.S.-China Relations: Strategic Empathy and the Path Forward with Ali Wyne
When it comes to U.S.-China relations, understanding people and attitudes on the ground can be just as critical as assessing economic and military metrics. In…
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NATO’s New Playbook: How NATO is Countering Russian Threats, with Jay Janzen
In the world of modern warfare, actions are only half the battle. Perception and information are the rest. With adversaries like Russia using advanced…
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Essential Lessons for Tech Leaders to Humanize Innovation, with Bill Powers
The future of technology is human. It’s about the leadership that shapes how we experience digital spaces. Bill Powers’ insights on this episode of Navigating…
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The Human Element: Why AI Needs Us More Than We Think, with Dr. Vivienne Ming
Artificial intelligence is a powerful tool, but it’s not the magic solution many make it out to be, according to theoretical neuroscientist and entrepreneur…
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5 Vulnerabilities in the Russian Economy the Kremlin Doesn't Want You to Know About, with Sergei Guriev
Russia’s economy may seem resilient on the surface, but according to Sergei Guriev, Dean of the London Business School, it’s held together by a fragile system…