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A Dive Into Ayurvedic Medicine And The Amazing Power Of Tumeric And Other Herbs, Spices and Adaptogens, With Dr Shivani Gupta · Hardiness with Dr Paul Taylor

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  Speaker 1: Doctor Schavanni Gupta, Welcome to the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me house things.
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  Speaker 1: In South Florida.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure the weather must be starting to get really
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  Speaker 3: nice now, is it.
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  Speaker 4: It's nice in the winter and then once we hit
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  Speaker 4: summer we just hide here.
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  Speaker 3: Ave of course, yes, you so you're you would be
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  Speaker 3: the equivalent of Queensland in Australia, right, which every time
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  Speaker 3: I go to Queensland in winter, I go, oh, I
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  Speaker 3: have to move here, I have to move here, And
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  Speaker 3: then I go to Queensland in summer and go, there's
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  Speaker 3: no way I'm moving.
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  Speaker 1: Here because it's just so hot and humid.
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  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And where are you are you born and bred in Florida.
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  Speaker 4: I'm actually from Houston, Texas, and I grew up to
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  Speaker 4: an Indian family that took me to India every year.
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  Speaker 4: So basically I was born to live in really hot climates.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, see, you certainly right.
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  Speaker 3: So tell me about your indianheritage. When did you Was
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  Speaker 3: it your parents who moved to the States.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So my parents moved to the States in the
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  Speaker 4: late seventies. They had me in the early eighties, and
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  Speaker 4: luckily they hit the American dream pretty fast. They worked
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  Speaker 4: really hard. They created a great business, and they were
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  Speaker 4: so successful that they were able to start bringing all
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  Speaker 4: their parents and their cousins and their families over from India.
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  Speaker 4: But I also went to India growing up every single year,
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  Speaker 4: and so when I went there, I always was wondering,
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  Speaker 4: like why are there two worlds?
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  Speaker 2: India is so.
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  Speaker 4: Different than growing up in America. Everything they do there
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  Speaker 4: they approach differently, especially health and wellness and when they
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  Speaker 4: treat you. So growing up I was always sick, always
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  Speaker 4: had colds and coughs, and never felt well. I was
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  Speaker 4: always airsick, seasick, carsick, And when I go to India,
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  Speaker 4: my grandma would treat me with tumeric and hang and spices.
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  Speaker 4: And in the US we'd go to the drug store
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  Speaker 4: or go to the Petatriian the didn' get a push
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  Speaker 4: for antibiotics. So I grew up in two worlds, which
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  Speaker 4: is what led me to falling in love with the
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  Speaker 4: health and wellness world and always trying to understand, like
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  Speaker 4: what can we do to perform better and be healthier?
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  Speaker 4: Because I was born with this weak health constitution and
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to build one that was powerful and strong
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  Speaker 4: and robust.
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  Speaker 3: Interesting I was in India in nineteen ninety three, I
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  Speaker 3: traveled around the world. It took a year off from university,
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  Speaker 3: travel around the world for a year, worked in different places.
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  Speaker 3: And I spent three months in India in nineteen ninety
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  Speaker 3: three and it had a massive impact on me.
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  Speaker 1: And I remember when I got there.
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  Speaker 3: I met some a fellow traveler when I got there,
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  Speaker 3: and he said, you're going to find that India, he says,
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  Speaker 3: is completely and utterly bonkers.
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  Speaker 1: He said, you will fall in.
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  Speaker 3: Love with it, and then it will drive you absolutely crazy.
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  Speaker 3: And there'll be a point where you go, I have
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  Speaker 3: to get out of here, and then you'll leave and
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  Speaker 3: about a week later you'll miss it. And that just
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  Speaker 3: exactly the way it played out.
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  Speaker 2: It's so true. That is India in a nutshell. It's
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  Speaker 2: a very good description actually.
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  Speaker 3: And I remember I remember on my second day or something,
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  Speaker 3: and I went to a train station. I'm standing in
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  Speaker 3: this big queue and I got the front and the
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  Speaker 3: people would just come and just squeeze right past me
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  Speaker 3: and just and that'd be like excuse.
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  Speaker 1: Me, and the look at me like I've got two hits,
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  Speaker 1: what's your problem?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 2: I know, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: It's very crazy that the inability to follow rules is
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  Speaker 4: quite funny there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and traffic.
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  Speaker 3: I remember driving and it was just like, who ever
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  Speaker 3: has the biggest car has right away another road rooms.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure exactly as.
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  Speaker 4: You're driving down the road. No, it's the same. I
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  Speaker 4: was there three four months ago. The trucks are hanging
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  Speaker 4: with like eighteen pounds of produce and supply hanging off
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  Speaker 4: the sides of it as it's going down the road.
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  Speaker 4: It's just crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And I remember our tip was taking a tree and
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  Speaker 3: trip and the tree and was filling. There was a
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  Speaker 3: whole heap of people up on the roof and I thought, oh,
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  Speaker 3: that would be fun, get up on the roof. So
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  Speaker 3: there are sitting on the roof and my girlfriend Simon
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  Speaker 3: was traveling with me and we're sitting We're chatting to
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  Speaker 3: all these guys and then one of them just tapped
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  Speaker 3: me on the shoulder and pointed done. And I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: and everybody ducked and this parline it would have decapitated me.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is a different world. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it is.
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  Speaker 4: It is. It's crazy to me. Sometimes it's almost like
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  Speaker 4: a disregard for human life in that chaos it's like,
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  Speaker 4: because you have a billion people, you just think that whatever.
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  Speaker 4: And here in the US, we very much are in
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  Speaker 4: the West, we just value each life as so much
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  Speaker 4: and there it's like just chaos and they're used to it.
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  Speaker 2: It's so different.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there was.
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  Speaker 3: Look, I've got so many stories about about India, but
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  Speaker 3: they they really are burdened into my mind. It was
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  Speaker 3: an absolutely fabulous eye opening time. I mean, one day
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  Speaker 3: I saw a guy with both elephant titus and leprosy
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  Speaker 3: and he was begging and that had a profound impact
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  Speaker 3: on me. Actually, because of that guy, every single day
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  Speaker 3: for the last thirty years, I've done a gratitude ritual
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  Speaker 3: and just like you know, how high lucky am I
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  Speaker 3: just because of where I was born that you know
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  Speaker 3: of just high things rolled And this guy who did
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  Speaker 3: nothing to anybody ended up with leprosy and elephant titus.
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  Speaker 1: You know, pretty crazy. But as you say, there's lots
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  Speaker 1: of things they do different.
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  Speaker 3: And ire vegic medicine and you know, so I know
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  Speaker 3: a little bit about it from from my time in India,
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  Speaker 3: but you're an expert in ire vegic medicine. Just just
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  Speaker 3: give us the overall view of it kind of when
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  Speaker 3: did it start? What's the general approach that ira Vegic
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  Speaker 3: medicine takes. It's different to the West.
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  Speaker 4: Sure so Veda means the science of life. It's the
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  Speaker 4: science of how to live our lives in a preventive way.
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  Speaker 4: It's kind of like an instruction manual on how to
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  Speaker 4: live a preventive, healthy lifestyle, giving us the instructions on
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  Speaker 4: what to do and how to do it. And it's
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  Speaker 4: this ancient system of health, healing and medicine from India
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  Speaker 4: that's over five thousand years old, and so in India
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  Speaker 4: for thousands of years they have lived by all these
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  Speaker 4: concepts and some of the main pillars of it are
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  Speaker 4: herbology and using the super spices and super herbs, plant medicine,
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  Speaker 4: as are healing modality and natural remedies for our health.
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  Speaker 4: We teach about circadian rhythm, which is becoming popular now,
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  Speaker 4: circadian clock chronobiology, really focusing on sleep as a key
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  Speaker 4: pillar of health. We teach about gut digestive fire and
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  Speaker 4: how this digestive fire in us is the center of
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  Speaker 4: our metabolism, our immune system, our brain, health, our mood,
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  Speaker 4: everything is tied to gut. So isn't it interesting that
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  Speaker 4: now we have got microbiome science saying the same thing
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  Speaker 4: that Iraveda said five thousand years ago. Then we teach
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  Speaker 4: about the softvic diet, this yogic diet and how to
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  Speaker 4: really nourish ourselves and focus on nourishment, eating seasonally, eating
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  Speaker 4: for nutrient density and nutrient variety instead of just eating
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  Speaker 4: for the fun of it, which is kind of how
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  Speaker 4: we do things now. And then another big pillar is detoxification,
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  Speaker 4: So we teach about detoxing the body, cleaning and clearing
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  Speaker 4: every single year.
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  Speaker 2: It's like your.
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  Speaker 4: Annual oil change that's required so that everything runs smoothly
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  Speaker 4: and runs well. And then finally the sixth pillar would
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  Speaker 4: be ira vidic self care. We call it din najadia,
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  Speaker 4: the daily self care rituals that build a rhythm that
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  Speaker 4: are detoxing but also so supportive for vibrant health.
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  Speaker 3: It sounds very much like integrative medicine in the West
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  Speaker 3: NI and many functionals so I'm involved with, said the
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  Speaker 3: Australian College of Natural Environmental Medicine. There's lots of integrative
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  Speaker 3: doctors there and actually we're seeing an integrative doctor from
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  Speaker 3: our little guy.
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  Speaker 1: He ended up with cushion's disease. But her approach has
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  Speaker 1: been really real useful.
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  Speaker 3: But isn't it interesting that that's five So five thousand
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  Speaker 3: years ago they were talking about I get the herbology,
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  Speaker 3: but they were talking about circadian rhythms and they got
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  Speaker 3: five thousand years ago.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all been there the whole time, and now
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  Speaker 4: we're pulling from it and pulling from it. And I
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  Speaker 4: just want to give Irava the credit because so much
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  Speaker 4: of what we're talking about and integrative and functional medicine
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  Speaker 4: comes from iravated wisdom. It's in the textbooks. And then
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  Speaker 4: I also just want to highlight that these tools are
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  Speaker 4: all for all of us to pick up and use,
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  Speaker 4: and they are the keys to that vibrant health that
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  Speaker 4: we want. So we oftentimes think, oh, I'm not well,
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  Speaker 4: let me go to the doctor. Doctor's gonna give me
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  Speaker 4: a prescription, which is fine sometimes there are reasons for that,
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  Speaker 4: but let's take the power back into ourselves of what
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  Speaker 4: we can do to rebuild each level of our health.
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  Speaker 3: M Like almost if we just interrogate a couple of
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  Speaker 3: those things. So the herbology stuff really became in to
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  Speaker 3: my awareness. It was a year two thousand and I
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  Speaker 3: spent three weeks deep in the Amazon jungle with an
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  Speaker 3: Italian guy. It was just me and him, and we
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  Speaker 3: had a matt Tess Indian guide, a couple of guides
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  Speaker 3: with us, and a shaman as well, and we were
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  Speaker 3: very deep into the Amazon jungle visiting the matt Tess Indians,
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  Speaker 3: but the shaman with us. Every day as we were
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  Speaker 3: going through the jungle, he was getting different plants and
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  Speaker 3: telling us what they're used for. And this is used
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  Speaker 3: for treating this, and this is used if you've got
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  Speaker 3: to cut, it'll stop the bleeding. And it was just
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  Speaker 3: so much stuff there. It's just ancient knowledge rights. It's
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  Speaker 3: the way humans have interacted with our environment over millions
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  Speaker 3: of years. And actually there was a I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if you saw it.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was all CNN. I read it.
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  Speaker 3: There was they saw an oranga time treating its wound
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  Speaker 3: with a particular plant, and it went and actually sought
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  Speaker 3: out that plant to treat its wound. So the knowledge humans, ay,
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  Speaker 3: but animals knowing what to do as well.
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  Speaker 2: True.
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  Speaker 4: They know what to eat, to purge, to to do
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  Speaker 4: different things when.
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  Speaker 2: They need it.
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  Speaker 3: And then the circadian rhythms and when I talk at workshops.
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  Speaker 3: I say to people almost every month, I'm reading a
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  Speaker 3: research paper about what happens to your biology when you
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  Speaker 3: met with your circadian cycles, because we now understand that
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  Speaker 3: hormones run off circadian rhythms, and actually most of your
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  Speaker 3: sales run off circadian rhythms. True, So tell me, tell
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  Speaker 3: me the approach that iodic medicine takes around circadian rhythms.
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  Speaker 1: And and where did it? Where did that that insights?
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  Speaker 3: Where did they actually origin it from?
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  Speaker 4: So in IRV the the wisdom and the teachings say
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  Speaker 4: that our body is part of nature. Nature's part of us.
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  Speaker 4: We live according to nature's clock. We are meant to
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  Speaker 4: rise when the sun rises. That is how we will
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  Speaker 4: have the most energy and gain our energy for the day.
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  Speaker 4: We're meant to eat when it's high noon in the sky.
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  Speaker 4: We call that the bit that time of day or
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  Speaker 4: fire time of day. And we each have these individual
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  Speaker 4: mind body constitutions, the ba rakufa, and so those tie
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  Speaker 4: to different times of day, they tie to the nature's elements,
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  Speaker 4: and so we're really elemental beings who are dynamically moving
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  Speaker 4: through Nature's clock while the earth rotates. So we're meant
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  Speaker 4: to just live in our own specific rhythm. So, for example,
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  Speaker 4: rising with the sun high noon for lunch. When the
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  Speaker 4: sun starts to set, we are meant to start setting
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  Speaker 4: in our activities and our actions. And most of the
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  Speaker 4: time we're trying to defy that completely. We've got lights, TVs, laptops, everything,
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  Speaker 4: I myself can break my day into four quarters and
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  Speaker 4: what work and push through all four quarters of my day.
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  Speaker 4: And then at the very end we think that the
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  Speaker 4: body is just ready to collapse and sleep into a deep,
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  Speaker 4: RESTful night's sleep, and we're not understanding that we really
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  Speaker 4: turn that car engin on. We haven't coled it off yet,
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  Speaker 4: we haven't prepared for bed. And so that teaches rise
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  Speaker 4: with the sun, do your exercise and activity in the morning.
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  Speaker 4: Ten to two on the clock, the firetime is your
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  Speaker 4: most productive time of day. Use it, leverage it. From
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  Speaker 4: two to six guffa time you might not have the
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  Speaker 4: same level Actually about that time you're not going to
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  Speaker 4: have the same level of focus and activity, So switch
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  Speaker 4: the activity. You don't get frustrated that you can't focus
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  Speaker 4: as well. Two to six do your busy work, do
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  Speaker 4: your moving around work, whatever that is. And then from
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  Speaker 4: six to ten guffa. You're meant to earth energy, wind down,
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  Speaker 4: settle down, Finish your last meal by seven, so you
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  Speaker 4: have a three hour gap before dinner. Finish your activities
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  Speaker 4: and work life and house responsibilities by eight, so you
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  Speaker 4: are winding down the day by nine. Then it's all
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  Speaker 4: sleep rituals till ten, so you're asleep by ten. And
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  Speaker 4: on the circadian clock we sleep. We explain that ten
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  Speaker 4: to two, that firetime on the clock at night is
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  Speaker 4: when we're meant to sleep to clear inflammation, clear the
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  Speaker 4: lymphatic system. And if we're not sleeping ten to two
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  Speaker 4: on the clock, we're not going to get the benefits.
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  Speaker 4: We're not going to clear the lymphatic system. The glymphatic system,
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  Speaker 4: which can accumulate up to three pounds of waste in
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  Speaker 4: it throughout the year, is not going to clear. So
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  Speaker 4: really we're in a disservice if we think we can
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  Speaker 4: constantly defye nature's clock. Because what you're doing is you're
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  Speaker 4: swimming uphill. You're fighting against the river, and if you
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  Speaker 4: would just turn around and flow downhill with the river,
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  Speaker 4: everything gets easier. And I can honestly say I have
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  Speaker 4: my own team of functional doctors who work on me.
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  Speaker 4: This is the only message they give me. They're like, Shavani,
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  Speaker 4: you are burning the candle at both ends. We know
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  Speaker 4: you're winning in every aspect of your life. But even
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  Speaker 4: you who teach the subject, no, you have to give
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  Speaker 4: up that last quarter. You have to turn it down
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  Speaker 4: at the end for the sleep. And I'm like, oh, fine, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know how to position yeah exactly. We all
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  Speaker 4: need our own practitioners, right, So yeah, it's hard because
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  Speaker 4: we're used to just working straight through.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: A couple of things I want to pick up on there.
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  Speaker 3: That exercise in the morning. Actually, that the because I've
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  Speaker 3: been asked that question for over years as an exercise physiologist, right,
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  Speaker 3: and I used to answer it, or I have answered
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  Speaker 3: it differently over times.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 3: I used to give the giky physiology best advice, which
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  Speaker 3: is your strength tends to be better in the afternoon,
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  Speaker 3: and then I thought, actually, the best time to exercise
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  Speaker 3: is when you do it. But now I actually say
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  Speaker 3: to people the best time to do it is in
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  Speaker 3: the morning because for two reasons. Number one, that shit
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  Speaker 3: gets done right, which is big, and secondly, particularly the
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  Speaker 3: research coming out that exercise in the morning is better
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  Speaker 3: for your sleep that night than exercise.
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  Speaker 1: In the in the afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: I think the other thing that I'd pick up on
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  Speaker 3: is around the food and the timing of your last meal,
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  Speaker 3: and I think now there's a lot of evidence that
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  Speaker 3: we should be finishing our last mail three hours before
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  Speaker 3: we go to bed. What a lot of people don't
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  Speaker 3: realize is that we have these DNA repair enzymes that
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  Speaker 3: basically run and I'm simplifying here, but they basically are
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  Speaker 3: these little enzymes that run through your body and your
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  Speaker 3: brain whenever you're asleep, and their job is to find cancer,
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  Speaker 3: some pre cancer cells, and when they find them, they
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  Speaker 3: tag them and then these natural siller kales a killer
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  Speaker 3: sales sorry, come along and execute them. But they are
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  Speaker 3: run off circadian rhythms. And it's been shown who is
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  Speaker 3: the guy.
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  Speaker 1: His name will come to me in a minute.
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  Speaker 3: He's an Indian guy who does all the stuff around
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  Speaker 3: such in Panda, the world leader on time restricted eating,
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  Speaker 3: and he has shown actually that when you eat late
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  Speaker 3: at night, we have peripheral clocks in our liver and
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  Speaker 3: our pancreas that sends the nutrients and switch off the
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  Speaker 3: DNA repair enzymes, which is why there's research coming out
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  Speaker 3: now that says that people who eat late at night
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  Speaker 3: potentially increase their councer risk. Right, And it's probably not
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  Speaker 3: just cancer risk, you know from you think of all
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  Speaker 3: the metabolic consequences of eating.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm made late at night.
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  Speaker 3: Whenever you're just going to go and light on right
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  Speaker 3: after you've eating it, it's just bunkers, isn't it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And sometimes socially we might have late dinners. And
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  Speaker 4: so I'm one of those people. I'm strict, I'm routine.
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  Speaker 4: I have rituals. I will be asleep between ten and
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  Speaker 4: ten thirty. Even if I work late. I gun for
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  Speaker 4: sleep because I know how important it is to sleep
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  Speaker 4: from ten to two. But when I have late night dinners,
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  Speaker 4: let's say I'm entertaining and it's like a Friday night
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  Speaker 4: pasta gluten free pasta on my case and wine and
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  Speaker 4: all the fun stuff. I'll just make sure I walk
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  Speaker 4: for twenty minutes after I will just get home and
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  Speaker 4: walk burn the calories a bit. Move that metabolism help
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  Speaker 4: balance our blood sugar and thus be better supported for sleep.
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  Speaker 4: But yes, if you have any sort of orr ring
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: or regiment, you'll see that you trashed your sleep for
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: the night. But at least we can do a little
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: something to take the edge off of what we chose
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: to do.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, I think that that little advice of
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: walking after a meal. I think if everybody walked or
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: did some exercise after every meal, we would be very,
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: very different in terms of our metabolic health, because there's
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: so much evidence that says that if you move after
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: a meal, you help with the glicose disposal, disposal, you
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: help with insulin sensitivity, but you also help be a
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: digestion as well, right, which is pretty important.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So after a meal, lunch, breakfast, whatever it is,
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: if you're going to be on the phone or you're
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: going to be on social media.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Just walk. Just do it walking. It's not a bit.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: You can walk in circles around the table still.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, yeah, very cool.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: And the other thing that's obviously massive today is the
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: gut and the influence of our gut microbiome. And I
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: think that we are only on the cusp of that research.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: And just hi, we're now seeing that people with obesity,
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: with diabetes, with autism, spectrum disorder, with depression, with anxiety,
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: they all have different microbiomes. And animal models are suggesting,
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: now you manipulate the microbiome that you can lessen the
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: symptoms and in some cases actually cure the disease, particularly
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: when you look at some of the stuff with facal transplants.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: So tell us a little bit more about the view
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: of our veda and the gut.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Just do a bit of a dive into that.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: Sure, So I rved that taught us that the gut
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: is called ugny. There's this fire residing within us, and
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: that fire's main job is to receive what we're consuming,
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: send the right enzymes and the right support to digest
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: it and assimilate from it all the benefits and then
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: excrete what does not serve. But when it comes to
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: assimilating the benefits, we create this byproduct of beautiful healthy digestion,
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: which is called ojus. And ojus is like this nectar
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: of the gods. It's vitality. And without that vitality, we
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: have no vitality. But to achieve that level of vitality,
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: we have to have good digestion. And so good digestion
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: means honoring that this fire within us is like a campfire.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: So first thing in the morning, I think of it
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: as when you wake up what are you going to
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: do to support the campfire? First, let's bring in some water.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: Let's bring in some maybe ginger lemon tea which will
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: ignite the fire. Let's use a tongue scraper that's going
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: to ignite the digestive fire. All these little steps we
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: can do in rituals. We can go check in with
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: the sun, allow the sun to hit our eyes and
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: wake us up and ignite that fire. So all your
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: morning rituals get you going before you hit the body.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: With any caffeine, you could even do your movement. Some
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: of us will not move.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Without caffeine, but you could do your morning movement without caffeine.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: It's possible all that.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Move quite significantly to get caffeine, right.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: True, it's true.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: I have my morning tea before I hit my gym.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: So it's a matter of preference, I guess. But you
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: ignite that fire. And then once you're done with breakfast,
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: let's say you have breakfast. Some of us intermittent fast.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: We don't even have breakfast half the time. Then close
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: the fire, let it rest, Let it just settle.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: It did its job.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: We're not meant to keep a digestifier open and keep
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: eating and consuming all day long and asking it to work.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: It'll burn out.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Then it's settled down. You open up for lunch. When
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: the sun is highest in the sky. You're most supported
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: in eating your nutrient dense meals. You're hard to digest foods,
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: so lunchtime is your best time to eat your biggest
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: meal of the day. Get everything in there. Your fire's
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: turning the biggest to absorb the benefits. So if I'm
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: eating a lot of nuts, seeds, different things for nutrient density,
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: I'll do it around lunchtime. Then again, close the fire
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: and don't drink water thirty minutes before or thirty minutes
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: after a meal. That's just putting out the fire and
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: that's a complete waste of the meal. You're not going
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: to absorb the nutrients if you're diluting that fire. And
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: imagine now we talk about digestive ensigns and don't flood
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: the stomach. They already do that back Then water is
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: a no no. Drinks our no no around the meal.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: And then when you hit dinner, you could have an
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: afternoon snack if you need one, but IRV that recommends
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: three square meals a day, and then finishing that dinner
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: by seven, and dinner is recommended to be a little
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: smaller soups, broths, stews, not these huge, heavy, hard to
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: digest inflammatory meals.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: And then that's it.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: Then you end the day and that honoring and respect
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: of Okay, camp fire is closed, it's finished, it's done
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: its job. Now we're transitioning into evening and into other activities,
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: so that all fires in the body are used to
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: clean and clear. Is the honoring of that gut health.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: And so in IRV that we use a lot of
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: spices and herbs in our food. We use things like
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: tumeric and cumin and hang things that support digestion of
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: our food. We source locally, We eat more fresh. We
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: don't eat dead food that's multiple days old. That will
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: create toxins or something called ama in the body. And
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: that toxin layer and film that accumulates in the body
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: is going to slow you down. And so by honoring
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: that gut digestifiers there to do its job, and we're
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: not meant to dampen it or kill it. We're going
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: to support the creating of that ojus and that vitality.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: So anyone who's had like a surgery or any trauma happened,
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: you might come out of that feeling like goush, I
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: lost my mojo.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I don't have my energy.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: That's your vitality. And so we have a whole protocol
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: of gut healing and adding in strengthening foods that help
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: us bring back that vitality. So we have like everything
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: working on all cylinders and feeling our best.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: And I like this idea of opening and closing the fire,
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: and you know, Western science would back that up.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: That shows that people.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Who have who eat multiple times a day, you know,
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: some of the thinking used to be, I'll eat multiple
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: times a day. It's better for weight loss because you're
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: you're actually activating your digestive system and and and your
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: your the theeramic effective food and stuff like that. But
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: now I think what's pretty clear is if you're eating
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: throughout the day, you're constantly spiking IGF one and that's
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: not great in terms of cancer risk. So yeah, interesting
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: that the way that it lines up with ia Veda.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: But tell me a little bit about tongue scraping.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: I just kind of came across that recently and yeah,
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: oh wow, there's actually some pretty good evidence around tongue scraping.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: So yeah, give us the slant on tongue scraping.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Sure, so we have something called then nat Jadia, the
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: daily self care rituals that when you build them into
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: your life, help support your circadian rhythm because you're building
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: these in and their habits stacked usually on top of
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: other habits. So in the morning, we recommend starting with
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: water hydrating the system, creating paristosis, so we all have
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: a daily at least daily healthy bowel movement, which is
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: so important. And then we recommend brushing your teeth and
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: then tongue scraping with a copper tongue scraper. And so
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: what you're gonna do is you're going to gently scrape
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: the tongue seven to fourteen times. And just like in
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: traditional Chinese medicine and reflexology, they talk about how all
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: the organs of the body are reflected on the bottom
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: of the feet, in the same way in Iurvade that
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: we teach that all the organs of the body are
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: reflected on the tongue. And so when you're scraping the tongue,
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: you're actually massaging all the organs of the body. You're
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: detoxing the body, you're removing amah from your system. That
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: toxin film that's accumulated throughout, and there's a white film
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: that accumulates on most of our tongues that shows us
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: that level of toxin build up that's happening in the body.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: So by scraping it gently seven to fourteen times, you're
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: removing that film, achieving that goal, igniting digestive fire, and
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: your taste buds will be able to taste better, which
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: is also helpful with our f food and taste.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Interesting, let's not talk about the Yogic diet. And I
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: do want to jump on and talk about tumor because
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: I know, I know you've got a heap of research
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: around that. But just give us the over views in
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: are veda. Is all of it vegetarian or is there
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: room for meat in it? Or what's what's the general
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: overview and guidelines around an iavetic diet.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: You know, overall it was vegetarian, but there's no laws
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: against things. Meat is fine in the Yogic diet. It's
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: very much about moderation. It's understanding your body your needs,
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: Like based on your mind body constitution, you might be
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: more VTA, which is more air ether, you might need
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: heavier and grounding foods, and based on where you live
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: and the temperatures and the climate, that might mean seafood,
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: that might mean red meat, just depends bit the people.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: We have a different diet, Guffa. People have a different diet,
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: and so in general, the diet saying according to the
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: season you're in. If you're entering a hot season, eat
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: those seasonal foods.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: They will keep you cool, they will keep.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: You more centered. We teach about eating nutritious like nutrient dense,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: nutrient variety, cooking food fresh every single day, not eating leftovers,
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: not eating dead food, really watching whose intention went into
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: the foods. When you eat out in a restaurant, if
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: you don't feel good, that means the cook wasn't happy.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: And so we very much believe keep the cook happy
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: so that everyone in the house is happy.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: And that's part of our culture.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: Is very much center of the house is the hearth
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: and the woman and the home and the food, and
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: so really cooking that food with love and in that
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: honoring of what that food means to the family is
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: very important. And then we use a lot of spices
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: in there, and those spices have tremendous benefits. So that's
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: also part of eating that yogic diet way.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: No, that's a very nice segue into your research and
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: your PhD around Chumric. And I remember reading quite a
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: number of years ago and just looking at the levels
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: of obesity and diabetes in India, which are very very significant, because,
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: as you'll know, I don't know if it's still the case,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: but certainly, whenever I was there, being overweight was a
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: sign of wealth and it was actually a good thing
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: to be overweighth but then created a massive diabetes problem.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: So India's got, particularly alongst the middle class, a massive
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: diabetes problem, but very low Alzheimer's disease, right, And in
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: many research circles, Alzheimer's is called type three diabetes, and
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: we know that the ideology of both diseases is quite similar.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: And I remember reading the suggestion that the reason why
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: there's high obesity and diabetes but very very low Alzheimer's
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: is they thought the tumoric right, and the active ingredient
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: in it. So that's a very nice segue into your research.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: So how did you get interested enough to have your
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: entire PhD around Tumeric and then just take us on
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: your PhD journey?
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: Sure, so my whole family is obese and diabetic, and
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: growing up going to India every year, I would see
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: this devastating effect. My grandma needed a quadruple bypass. My
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: grandfather was Parkinson's and then his leg got amputated, and
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: then the other grandpa heart attack stroke, And I was like,
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: what is this? This is the worst genetics on earth,
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: and this is what's coming for me. Like, you guys
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: work so hard, you build so much success, and then
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: the last quarter is a horrible disease and devastation. There
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: has to be a different way. And so that really
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: set me on my path of trying to understand how
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: do you prevent diabetes? Oh, it's inflammation, it's sugar, and
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: it's exercise, Like you have to manage your body weight
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: and obesity. Okay, so I always avoided sugar. I've been
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: an exercise aholic since high school. I have always lifted
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: weight like it's part of my DNA and job to
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: fight against that. And thankfully I'm in my forties now
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: and I don't worry about it. I don't even keep
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: it in my field because it's not part of who
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: I am. I know how to build health, but inflammation,
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: unfortunately is this root cause issue that even if you
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: can be really good, you can still be inflamed. And
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: I find that for my health, like I have clean water,
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: clean air, I don't have any necessarily viruses or bacteria,
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: but there's so many factors that inflame us. Our food sources, water,
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: air cleaning products, skincare, anything foreign to the body, fried food, seed, oils,
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: it just accumulates.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: And then psychological stress, yes, yes.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: Exactly, stress alone. And so it's almost like I've been
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: able to mitigate every inflammatory factor in my whole life
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: except stress, and I'm like, oh, like, really, I can't
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: lose on that one too.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: That's not fair.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: And so I really think of it as if we're
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: not going to like consistently reduce the consistent, constant what
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: is it called chronic, low grade persistent inflammation that's causing
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: a havoc and burning like a low grade fire within us,
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: we're not going to win at our health no matter what,
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: because inflammation is that root cause. So many people are
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: suffering from something itis and that's the problem. And so
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: when I was in my master's classes in orbology, they
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: started talking about the spices which I use in my cooking,
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: tumoric ginger, human seeds, fenyl, we have edgewine, heeing, all
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: these cool spices, coriander, Every spice has a benefit, and
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: when I looked at them, a lot of those benefits
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: lined up with what we call the benefits from superfoods
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: when you eat salmon and spinach and cocoa powder and
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: macha powder and gojiberries and a lot of these things.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: In modern day times, it's for the superfood antioxidant, anti
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: inflammatory benefits the super spices from arab that provide that
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: as well. So it's almost like this wisdom and science
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: from irav that was built into the entire Indian cooking
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: system so that you get it in a daily micro
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: dose every single day. I thought, Okay, that's interesting, And
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: simultaneously there was so much science coming out on tumoric
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: and how when you extract curcumin out of it it
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: can create this therapeutic significant result. So I was like, Okay,
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: I wonder if we could take tumeric and then solve
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: all of the world's problems. That was my theory, and
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: so I went on that journey with my PhD. And
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: I just started reading the science and reading the science,
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: and it took years because I wasn't actually accustomed to
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: reading that kind of science, but I basically eight through
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: my PhD to keep myself sitting and focused and reading
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: all of it. But what I discerned from all of
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: it was between me us your arthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, cardiovascular disease,
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: even cancer in some cases, every single inflammatory disease, so
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: many of the gut health diseases. We know that curcumin
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: has an impact. There's science, and there's over fifteen thousand
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: scientific studies at least in PubMed right now, and that
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: number is growing exponentially.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: And so it's your repute, can I throw in, as
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: well as all the science, a personal story and in
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: our house. So my wife got she injured her thumb
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: and got diagnosed with arthritis on her thumb and was
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: prescribed anti inflammatories and instead started taking timeric and and
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: after about a month on the chimeric, the pain which
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: had been there for months, completely went away. And the
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: inn the two times that she's ran out of tumeric
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: for for over a week, it comes back right. So
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: and the yeah, the I have dug into the research
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: around turmeric and curcumen as an anti inflammatory, and I
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: think just to underscore what you said that most people
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: do not realize that almost every single chronic disease has
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: got an inflammatory component to it, right, And and when
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: you get systemic inflammation, I mean they actually Gary Professor
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Gary Eggers actually coined the term inflammaging right exactly, that
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: we age from inflammation at a cellular level. And me
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: and you could riff on about what happens in the
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: cellular pathways and bore the life out of our listeners,
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: but it's really just that understanding of just how widely
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: cellular inflammation is implicated in all of these different diseases.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: And you reduce inflammation, you reduce a lot of the symptoms,
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: and in some cases can.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Actually cure the diseases right.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: Correct exactly, And that's why I fell in love with it.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: And I was like, okay, tumor is that powerful? And
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: then whenever anyone had a problem, I was like, tumor
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: can fix that. And finally my family was like, listen,
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: I know you're like in my big fat Greek wedding,
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: this is windex to you. It works on everything for everybody,
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: but fine, the tels which one? And when I went
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: to look around at the tumor suppments, it was really
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: hard to discern actually which ones are good because in
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: supplements we can be so varied in the labels. And
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: I said, you know what, I'm actually going to create
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: my own and I'm going to see if I can
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: impact all of orthopedic medicine because every time I got hurt,
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: they give me NSAIDs, And when I took n sets
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: twenty four to seven for seven ten days, I get
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: these stomach aches every time I ate, and so I
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: was really frustrated.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Also just to explain insights for people nonsteroil and anti
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: inflammatory so ibuprofen, those sorts of things, right, because I
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: don't think that's as widely used over here.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: In Australia as it is in the States.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: Okay, terminology, Yeah, and a lot of people know now
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: that they can't even take insets they can't tolerate, and
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: SATs some of us just don't do well on them.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: And I thought, let me create my term long term
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: they're bad ju June as well.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Right, So just because things are sold over the counter,
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: it doesn't mean they're safe, especially in the long run.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: And a lot of people who have chronic joint pain
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: take these things every single day forever. So I ended
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: up creating my own and I just had this dream
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: of if I could change all of orthopedic medicine, then
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: I'll also go after rheumatology then GI just going down
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: my list. And so that's the work I've done for
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: a decade now is I created these formulas. They completely work.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: Orthopedics loves them. They've cut their entented use down significantly.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: We win it chronic joint pain. And so once I
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: did that, I kind of got frustrated because people were
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: taking my pill for the problem, and I was like, wait,
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: don't you know that lifestyle would actually fix it, Like
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: we can do both. We can do the synergistic effect
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: and then you don't have to take the pill. And
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: so that's been my mission for the last few years
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: as I teach ira Veda and I say, if you
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: want to put the fire out fast, take the tumor.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: It will do the job. But once we got that
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: fire out, we have to shift the lifestyle because otherwise
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: we'll keep causing the fire. And so I like both.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: I like the adjunct solutions. Always is do A and
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: do B and then come off the pills whenever they
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: are faster.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: So am I right in understanding that the active ingredient
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: that is the real anti inflammatory part of tumoric is carcumin.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: Yes, so out of the entire tumoric plant, only three
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: percent is the kerkcuminoids. So when we're eating a teaspoon
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: of tumoric powder on our chicken, that teaspoon ninety seven
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: percent is just the non curcuminoid tumeric, which has some benefits,
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: but the most benefits come out of that three percent.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: And of the three kurcuminoids, the one curcu is the
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: most effective at reducing inflammation. So it's important you get
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: the right proportion. It's important that they extract it properly
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: in a good way to achieve over a ninety five
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: percent standardization. So a lot of sophomas have no standardization,
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: no third party testing, or the extract just to meet
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: the minimum as opposed to overshooting it and landing there.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: And so for me, I invested in an ingredient that
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: does the absolute best work and a third party test,
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: and I make it in the US. So we are
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: giving like this medical grade curcumen that drives a therapeutic result,
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: which is what I'm after.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: I think that's that's really important to dive into it again.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: I remember I was on a it was I can't
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: remember what the workshop was, but there was a professor
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: talking about grandfathering Off research and he was talking about
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: I can't remember what the supplement was, but showed that
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: the harvest time of when they did the plant massively
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: impacted upon the intensity of the active ingredient and that
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: only in certain areas of the world was that plant
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: get really high in the active ingredient. But then he said,
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: so once that research was done on this particular formula,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: people were making the sam in inverted commas the same
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: compound or the same supplement, but not in the same
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: conditions and didn't have the same impact. Right, So just
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: because one brand of fish oil that's done in a
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: clinical trial is really good for Brian health, doesn't mean
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: that the really cheap fish oil that you get in
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: the chemist is good for the Brian health. And the
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: same for circumen and any other supplement exactly.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: And so that's why you have to work with the
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: indigenous population, you have to work with the farmers. I
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: was just in India meeting with the supplier teams in
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: Bombay and Hyderabad, and it's interesting the level of detail
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: everyone's getting into because we understand that these are phyto
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: botanicals and they're being studied at the level of pharma,
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: so there's clinical research those active ingredients. We're pushing for
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: more actives based on which strains are grown and where
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: and when. And then once you have that down, Okay,
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: we got the raw material, what is the extraction process. Sure,
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: you can use adulterated chemical processes and strip things out,
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: or you can do it the right way. It takes
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: more time, everything's more expensive, but when you do it
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: the right way, you're going to get the exact result
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: you want. And so for me, I was there and
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: I was like, can we do more? Like what more
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: can we do? I want to have a turbericuled Elite
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: next time. And they're like, Shawnny, you're already driving a
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: perfect result, Like what more do you want? I was like, listen,
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: there's so much, so many problems to solve. We have
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: to keep fighting inflammation at every level. So it's interesting
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: the level of detail, and then we can do third
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: party testing premit and post production now microbe testing, heavy
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: metal testing, so that we're very sure that what we
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: providing is exactly the purest form of what we want
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: to provide. And I think that level of medical grade
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: supplements is going to one day become the standard. Right now,
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: people are still buying twenty dollars solutions off Amazon and wherever,
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: but I think most people are wisening up to if
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: you want a real result, you have to invest in
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: the people who are investing in the science and research
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: for those real results.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it is a tricky feel and it does
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: it also dilutes the research, so you know that there
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: will be different research studies that come out that will
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: question So let's just take a Mega three because I
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: know that very well. There are some studies that then
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: show a Mega three is no real impact on cardiovascular
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: function and theme. And you look at the study, the
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: doses that they use was way too low and the
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: balance of e EPA and DJA was wrong. And when
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: you do the proper studies with the right dosages and
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: the right purity. And to your point, there are are
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: so many Amiga three supplements that you can buy, and
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: quite a lot of them from independent testing are actually rancid, right,
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: And I'm actually.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Doing more harm.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: And that's why in the Amiga three world there's this
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: nonprofit body called I four I think it's called that
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: will independently test all Amiga three supplements. They will screen
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: them for thousands of toxins. They will test them for purity,
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: so that when you're buying supplements, having stuff that's third
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: party tested is really really important and understanding the purity
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: and the quality of the ingredient. But this is a
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: mindfield for consumers, right is like the average Joe blow
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: on the street doesn't know one good supplement from the other.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: In chemist Warehouse, which is a big, massive.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Place in Australia, I don't think they have it in
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: the States, but yeah, they just go in and go
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: others Omega three, I'll have the cheapest one, or there's curcumen.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to get the cheapest one.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: And you're not getting the same thing, are you.
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: No, And that's why it's so important to go to practitioners,
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: go to people who are obsessed with this. We have
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: longevity conferences, functional medicine conferences. At those conferences, I do booths.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: I meet the founders. They want to look me in
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: the eye and know what I'm about. They're going to
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: ask me for my third party certifications. They are comparing
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: all the supplements against each other. So I ask my
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: functional medicine doctor who's moved the D in their body?
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: Who moved the other value. I'm not taking supplements that
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: don't move values in the blood or in the stool testing.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: So you have practitioners who know what's impacting. And I
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: can't even buy off the shelf supplements now because I
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: don't trust them at all.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, very interesting.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: So carcumin is one of three carcuminoids, I think you said,
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: and then there are other compounds in turmeric.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: So is because my wife was then okay, so what
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: I do?
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: So she gets a practitioner them, which is like, they
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: do both the turmeric and they do a carcumin right,
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: and they both have pepperine in them because I believe
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: that black pepper helps with the absorption of it. So
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: is there an an advantage of having both and turmeric? Like,
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: is there other stuff from euro PhD in the turmeric
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: that is useful over and above the anti inflammatory effect
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: of carcumen?
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: Such a great question. No one has asked me that
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: question yet. Yes, absolutely, there's noncurcuminoid tumoric benefits.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: We just haven't studied them yet.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: They haven't been a part of scientific investment yet, but
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: they will be over time because we're always seeking like why,
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: how what else can we pull? I studied in a
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: lab when I was sixteen years old in Houston called
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: the MD Anderson Cancer Center where doctor Putta Thugerwald, the researcher,
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: discovered that it's a black pepper that increased the absorption
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: of tumoric by two Wow. I got to work in
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: his lab, and then twenty years later I went back
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: and I was like, hey, just you know, doing a
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: PhD on turmeric, And he sat me down and he said,
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: these are the presentations I present around the world. And
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: he goes, if you're going to make a tumoric sceppment,
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: add tuberic back in, there's a synergistic effect by putting
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: the curcumen with the tumeric together to create that result,
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: and then of course use the black pepper. And so
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: I have followed that science and that wisdom of his
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: huge body of research to create what I created. And
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: I actually created two blends because I was curious, like
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: I always love a b testing an idea. So I
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: created that classic formula that science says works, the curriculum
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: and black pepper, and I added the turmeric, and then
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: I made it a truly ira Veda synergistic formula because
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: in ira Veda you would have put the turmeric, which
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: I used curcuman basuilia guruci amla dry ginger, because in
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: Iram that we believe that a main herb will do
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: the main job. Secondary herb will support the main herb
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: and doing that whole job. Third herb will help them
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: go where they.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Need to go.
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: Fourth herb increasing that absorption. Fifth rb negate the negative
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: effects of putting strong herbs in the body in the
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: first place, because that's a big hit. You're getting to
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: the body, whether it's a plant or not. And so
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: that wisdom I built into a formula called inflammation relief.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: And so I've always been watching the population to see
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: what worked better. And it's interesting because we're all bio individuals,
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: so it's it's different. But I see that the synergistic
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: formula is very effective when you know you're inflamed, and
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: then a lot of people make the combo out of them.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: But it's just been interesting to watch how turmeric does
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: so much in the body when people have.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: A big issue.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: Me pain, hip pain, back pain. It attacks that first.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: Then there are mid range problems, and then they'll call
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: me and they'll say, you healed my gingivitis. That's so weird.
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: Nothing worked. Only when I took an end said, did
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: my gingivitis go away? And now tumoric does it? So,
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: like you said, even the fine things. Once we healed
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: that inflammation, all of a sudden, the body can go
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: after the smaller issues that were also little fires, and
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: then everything is put away. Body is at homeostasis, and
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: now we can just manage that with self care.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Talk to me about did you say it was it hang?
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: I've never heard of hang before.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, talked to me about that and some of the
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: other herb herbs as you say in the day, it's
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: herbs as we call the over here, and some of
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: the other herbs and things like ginger and coriander that
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: are used in Indian cooking. Because there is now a
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: whole heap of emerging evidence about just the benefits of
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: a wide variety of herbs and how lots of the
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: compounds in them are actually cofactors and enzymes for for
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: biochemical pathways in the body. And I think the way
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: that I tend to present this to people is that
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: we have coexisted with plants for millions of years, and
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: now from our knowledge of the of the gods.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: You know, we know you don't feed yourself directly.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: Most of the food is broken down by your cup
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: microbiome and it feeds you. But then also that that
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: all of these compounds and polyphenols and flavonoids and and
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: different compounds in plants, they have widespread actions through I
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: really complicated biochemical posthways in the body. So talk to
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: us about some of the big ones in an iaveda.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: Next to tuberic, one of the next big ones would
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: be ginger. Ginger Ginger's anti inflammatory, gastro protective. We know
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: we're nauseous. Gingers great for us. You know, it helps
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: ignite the digestive fire. So ginger lemon tea ginger in
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: your food, it's always a good benefit. Even ginger lemon
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: tea before a meal can be supportive in igniting those
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: digestive fires if you feel like you have a weak fire.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: Another beautiful one is cuban seeds. So when we heat
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: up our Indian food and we go to cook it,
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: we heat ghee in the pan. First, we add a
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: pinch of cuban seeds and a pinch of that spice
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: called hank heing is also known as asafatida. But these
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: two spices are powerhouses because if you're going to cook
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: lentils or beans, these are like pre digestive. They're built
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: to help you support any food that's hard to digest.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: So we consider broccoli, cauliflower. There's a lot of things
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: out there that are hard for the system to digest,
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: and these are going to do and digesting them and
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: thus absorbing all the nutrition from them. So we use
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: whole cuman seeds. We put them on that oil or
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: that gee once it's already warmed up, so they kind
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: of start to dance and release their aromatics, and then
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: that's the right time. You can add the hang right there,
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: and then we add our garlic, ginger, onion, and everything
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: else that we're going to add in there. We tend
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: to pressure cooke beans and lentils now because doctor Gundry
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: spoke about lectins, so pressure cookers kind of where it's
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: at for that for us.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Now everyone used to use a slow cooker.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: And just to add a bit of depth to that,
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: so selectins are some people call them anti nutrients, and
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of people say, well you shouldn't. You'll
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: see people who go to extreme right should never eat
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: beans and lentils because they're full of these phytal anti
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: nutrients and stuff like that. But what people have traditionally
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: done is soak them, which actually massively reduces the electin content.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: So I'm guessing that a pressure cooker would do similar things.
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you can soak it also, though a day before.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: We like to soak our beans a day before. You
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: can soak the lentils, but that could make them kind
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: of too soft. Yead the pressure cooker, you're gonna soak
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: it and then it'll pressure cook it right then, but
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: it removes that lectin factor pretty much out of it.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: And then coriander we love because cilantro coriander seeds or
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: cilantro are heavy metal detoxers. So on a daily basis,
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: we know we're going to have some heavy metal exposure.
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: So coriander is built into all of our foods and
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: it has a cooling effect because so many of our
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: spices are gonna be heating. We're gonna use red chili powder,
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: we're gonna use black pepper, even tumor can be heating,
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: ginger can be heating, so the coriander is that perfect
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: balance to cooling it all down. We also use fennel seeds.
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: Fennel seeds have a very gastro protective effect. We like
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: having fennel seeds and chewing on them after a meal
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: because they help with that post digestive support in the system.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: So if you're always having gas or discomfort after you eat,
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: you could just add a little scoop of fennel.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Seeds after your meal for support.
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: There's a whole plethora of spice, and I invite you
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: guys look up Indian cooking recipes, cooking videos. I have
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: some on my YouTube channel. But by cooking with those spices,
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: you can start to make more of your meals incorporate
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: the super spices, which, like you mentioned, has a very
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: powerful effect on our gut health and our overall health
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: because each one has super food properties to them.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: Now, one other compound I wanted to talk about, and
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it's from Aya Veda is Ashwa Ganda.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought you were going to say it.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: Man. Just the research on ashwaganda for managing cortisol and
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: for people who have trouble sleeping and have anxiety, like
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: it's just bonkers.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: How useful is.
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: I want to do a PhD on. I want to
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: do a PhD on as next, but I have no
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: such free time. But I am pretty much obsessed with
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: that being the next spice after Tuberic and I just
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: met a supplier team that found new active ingredients in
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: ushagunda that nobody else has discovered yet.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: So it could get really interesting.
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: I'm testing the product right now because I won't make
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: something until I know it's really effective. Ashagunda is an adaptogen.
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: It is this wonder herb. It's actually a it's from
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: a tree. It's like the roots and the stems of
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: the tree. But you have to be careful with eshagunda
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: because some people will grind the whole plant, some will
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: get the small sticks, and some will get the big sticks.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: And there's a difference in quality based on what you choose,
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: and so the team I was working with sad actually
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: have to be very careful who you work with and
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: how you pick because people will adulterate and take all
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: of it and sell it to you and then it
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: won't be as potent or effective. But it is neurocognitive support,
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: neuroprotective anti anxiety like you mentioned cortisol. What I love
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: is all the adaptogens from I RVA that we have
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: a lot of them. If you're stressed and anxious, they
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: calm you down a few notches, and if you're low depressed,
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: they lift you up. It's like this constant thermostat that
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: just supports you with your mood, with your function, with
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: your health overall. So H to me is like amazing.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: I hadn't realized adoptagens work both ways and it is
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: the same adoptogen. Or are they different types of adoptogen
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  Speaker 3: that will lift you up and other ones that bring
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  Speaker 3: you down.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it's that different ones lift you up
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  Speaker 4: and bring you down. I think they just have different mechanisms.
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  Speaker 4: Like we have one called Shatavari. People pronounce it chatavari.
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  Speaker 4: Chatavar is good for male and female reproductive organs, So
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  Speaker 4: anytime we're talking about fertility all the way to menopause,
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  Speaker 4: we would use it for women. But also when you
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: want vitality in men in reproductive organs, you would use
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  Speaker 4: that one. We know Rodiola, Shissandra ushigunda. All of these
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: are great for like mood stabilization. Rum Me is good
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  Speaker 4: for the barain. So it just depends on which one
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: you're going to reach for and for what you can
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  Speaker 4: use them in oil like Brumby oil is good for
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: head oil massage. I put into something called Deep Sleep
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  Speaker 4: Tea because I wanted them to calm my mind before bedtime.
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  Speaker 4: I just designed a tea for the afternoon because I
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: feel like I'm just too high speed to impact and
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: entering my evening and I needed something to help me
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  Speaker 4: step down a few notches. So I put Rodiola with
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: prom Me with Spike and art Just I kind of
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: keep trying to play with what is the right adaptogenic
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  Speaker 4: combo for us to achieve our specific goals. And even
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: with menopause, we're seeing huge impact on hot flashes and
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: night sweats using Popery and Dullcy in combination.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, very cool. And there is just a there's a
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: whole world out there.
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  Speaker 3: And when I looked into ash fora ganda, then I
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: came a calm research on adapted gens and I'm like,
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: holy shit, it's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: It is eighties.
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  Speaker 3: There is so much research out there and proper and
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: proper and random, nice clinical trials as well, and obviously
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  Speaker 3: there's crop research everywhere, but I was surprised when I
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: looked into it just how much evidence there was around adoptogens,
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  Speaker 3: particularly for stress, cortisol, anxiety, all of those sorts of things.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't look at the other areas, but
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they see this conversation.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they say astragun is as effective as fourteen psychoactric
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  Speaker 4: psychoactive drugs. Now that you're mentioning the science, and if
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: you think about it as people who want to be
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: high performers, sometimes we're burning the candle at both ends,
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: and so we need something on board to protect us
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: because we're going to burn it anyway. That's that's what
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: I find is I'm going to work, and as I work,
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: I want to protect my brain. I want to protect
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: my heart, I want to protect my health. I want
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: to protect my hormones. So that's where I find those
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  Speaker 4: adaptogens to be the perfect solution. It's like plant medicine
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  Speaker 4: put into us that constantly calibrates with what we're going
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: to do to ours selves.
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  Speaker 1: Very cool, Shavanni. This has been awesome.
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  Speaker 3: So where can our listeners go to find out more
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  Speaker 3: about you? And your products and any other inf Do
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  Speaker 3: you have books and blogs and stuff like that that
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  Speaker 3: people can read as well?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, so I have like vlog posts and videos and
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  Speaker 4: guides and quizzes and all the fun stuff. At my
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  Speaker 4: I'm at doctor dot shavannigupt on Instagram. I have the
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  Speaker 4: because I'm obsessed with every aspect of health that could
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  Speaker 3: Cool awesome, Shavanni. This has been a great overview of IVEDA.
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: I'm sure there's many many levels of depth to it,
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: but thank you for giving us number one a really
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: comprehensive overview of of of what it is in its entirety,
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: but also taking us the deep dive into Tumerican the adaptogens,
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: because I think there's a lot of benefits that we
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: can get from herbs, spices, and some of the compounds
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: that do not have the side effects of of of
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: of medical or of pharmacological agents, and in some cases
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: a shitload more effective that we're seeing.
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  Speaker 4: True true, I totally agree.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for having.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: Me, Thank you enjoy the rest of what there was
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: left in your day in South Florida.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: Thank you