Latest / The Marketing Funnel Podcast with Fexingo: Awareness, Interest, Decision, and Action Stages / How Patagonia Built a Marketing Funnel on Activism
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- Lucas: So there's a moment in marketing history that still gets taught in MBA classes, and it's not a Super Bowl spot or a viral TikTok. It's a full-page ad in the New York Times on Black Friday 2011 that showed a picture of a Patagonia jacket and the headline 'Don't Buy This Jacket.' Luna: That's the classic anti-consumption play. But it wasn't just a stunt, right? I mean, Patagonia actually meant it. Lucas: Exactly. They ran that ad to push back against the holiday shopping frenzy and to highlight the environmental cost of making a single jacket. But here's the thing — it worked. Not as a way to stop sales, but as a way to sharpen their entire funnel. That ad became the awareness stage for a whole generation of customers. Luna: So you're saying the 'don't buy' message actually made people buy more? Lucas: It did. In the quarter after that ad, Patagonia's sales went up by about a third. And that pattern repeated in 2016 when they pledged to give 100 percent of their Black Friday sales — that was about ten million dollars — to grassroots environmental groups. People lined up online and in stores. The message was 'don't buy unless you really need it, but if you do, your money goes somewhere that matters.' Luna: That's a powerful interest stage. Instead of just listing features, they're telling you who they are and what you're supporting. But I wonder — does that work for every brand, or is there something specific about Patagonia that makes it click? Lucas: Great question, and that's what we're digging into today. We're going to look at how Patagonia built an entire AIDA funnel on activism — and whether the model can survive when the activism itself gets complicated. Luna: And maybe a little bit about what happens when your stance alienates half the country. Lucas: Right. So let's start at the top of the funnel. Awareness. Patagonia's founder, Yvon Chouinard, has said that the brand's goal was never to be a big company, but to be a responsible one. And that guided every piece of communication. They weren't trying to reach everyone. They were trying to reach people who shared their values. Luna: So it's a narrowing funnel, not a widening one. They're okay with turning some people off. Lucas: Precisely. And that's a really important distinction. Most marketing funnels start with the broadest possible audience and then try to convert as many as they can. Patagonia's funnel starts with a strong signal — a clear set of values — and that signal filters for people who are likely to become loyal customers. It's almost like a pre-qualification stage built into the awareness itself. Luna: And that signal is consistent across every touchpoint. Their website, their stores, their ads, even their product care campaigns. They run 'Worn Wear' programs to repair old jackets instead of pushing new ones. Lucas: Yeah, and that's not just a side project. It's a core part of their interest stage. When you visit their site, you're not just seeing products — you're seeing stories about the people who make them and the places they're designed to protect. That's building interest, but it's also building trust. And trust is what moves people from interest to decision. Luna: Let's talk about the decision stage then. Because for a lot of brands, this is where they throw in discounts and free shipping. Patagonia doesn't really do that. Lucas: No, they don't. They rarely discount. Instead, they lean into quality and durability. The price point is high, and they justify it with the promise that you won't need to replace it for decades. And they back that up with an ironclad guarantee. If something breaks, they'll fix it. That's a different kind of conversion lever — not price, but longevity. Luna: So the decision stage is about overcoming the objection that 'it's too expensive.' They answer it with 'you'll only buy it once.' Lucas: Exactly. And then the action stage — the purchase itself — is tied to something bigger. When you check out, you're not just buying a jacket. You're supporting a mission. They give one percent of sales to environmental causes, and they've done that since 1985. So that act of buying feels like a vote, not just a transaction. Luna: That's a great transition to the loyalty loop. You've made the purchase, but the funnel doesn't end there. The advocacy stage is where Patagonia really shines. Lucas: Absolutely. They turn customers into activists. They encourage people to sign petitions, join local environmental groups, even protest. In 2018, they closed their stores on Black Friday to join a climate strike. That kind of action doesn't just keep customers — it turns them into evangelists who bring in new people at the top of the funnel. It's a self-reinforcing cycle. Luna: But let's be honest — this only works if the activism is genuine. If it feels like a marketing ploy, customers will see right through it. Lucas: And that's the risk. Patagonia has been walking this line for decades, and they've made it work because the commitment is real. Yvon Chouinard literally transferred ownership of the company to a trust that funnels profits into environmental causes. That's not something you can fake. But it also means that this strategy isn't a template. You can't just slap a 'we care' sticker on your brand and expect the same results. Luna: So what can a small business actually take away from this? You can't all become Patagonia. Lucas: Right, but you can borrow the principle. Pick a cause that's genuinely aligned with your product or your values, and weave it into every stage of your funnel. Maybe it's not the environment — maybe it's local literacy or animal welfare. The point is to give customers a reason to choose you that isn't just 'we're cheaper.' And if you do it consistently, you'll attract people who stay. Luna: Before we wrap this up, I want to come back to something you said earlier about the 'don't buy' message. That's such a counterintuitive hook. Are there other brands that have pulled that off? Lucas: There are a few. REI did it with their #OptOutside campaign — they closed stores on Black Friday and told employees and customers to go outside instead. That was a similar anti-consumption signal that actually boosted brand affinity and long-term sales. But Patagonia is the one that built an entire identity around it. Luna: It's interesting how that kind of contrarian move can actually cut through the noise better than a typical 'sale' ad. Lucas: It does, and it goes back to a core marketing truth: attention is scarce, but values are even scarcer. When you take a stand, you're not just asking for attention — you're asking for alignment. And that's a much stronger foundation for a relationship. Luna: So what's the takeaway for our listeners who are thinking about their own funnel? Is there a way to test this without risking everything? Lucas: Start small. Pick one message that reflects a real value your company holds, and feature it prominently on your landing page or in one of your emails. Measure how it affects click-throughs and conversions. If you see a positive response, you can double down. But the key is that the value has to be authentic — if it's not, customers will sense it. Luna: And if it is authentic, you might just end up with a funnel that builds a movement, not just a customer base. Lucas: That's the goal. So next time you're planning a campaign, ask yourself: what do we stand for? If you can answer that clearly, you're already ahead of most brands. Luna: On that note, before we go, I just want to mention something we're proud of. We keep this show completely ad-free, and that's thanks to listeners who support us directly. If you've gotten value from these conversations, you can help us keep it that way at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. Lucas: Yeah, we really appreciate that. And it's a small thing, but it keeps us independent and lets us focus on the stories we think matter. So thanks to anyone who's done that. Luna: Alright, back to the funnel. One more question — what's the biggest mistake you see brands make when they try to copy this kind of purpose-driven approach? Lucas: They treat it as a campaign instead of a commitment. They run a 'green' ad in April and then go back to business as usual. That's a recipe for cynicism. Patagonia's funnel works because the purpose is embedded in the entire business model — from supply chain to corporate structure. That's hard to replicate, but it's what makes the difference. Luna: So it's not a marketing tactic, it's a way of doing business. Lucas: Exactly. And that's why Patagonia's funnel is so durable. It's not built on a trend; it's built on a foundation that survives economic cycles and changing consumer tastes. That's worth studying for any marketer. Luna: Thanks for diving into this with us. We'll be back next time with another look at how brands build their funnels — see you then.