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Brain Health: What Are You Doing Today to Protect Tomorrow? · Wellness Wednesday Activation Podcast

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SPEAKER_01: Bring you dive in because we believe everybody should be an advocate for their own health and they should be aware of all things when it comes to health.
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SPEAKER_01: And we like to dive into different topics with different experts every single week.
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SPEAKER_01: Tonight, our topic is brain health.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm so excited.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, put a one in the chat if you know somebody who struggled with brain health at some point in their life.
0:26
SPEAKER_01: It could be a loved one, it could be yourself.
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SPEAKER_01: And whether it's as simple for me, I gave it a name, mom fog.
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SPEAKER_01: 10 years ago, I self-diagnosed myself with mom fog.
0:37
SPEAKER_01: And I think that that's a real thing.
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SPEAKER_01: And then, but then it goes on to all kinds of other things, memory issues, right?
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SPEAKER_01: I for me personally, I believe one of the things that I want to ward off the most is any kind of process that might go on in the brain.
0:53
SPEAKER_01: I want to be so proactive and so preventative.
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SPEAKER_01: So if you don't know me and this is your first time here, my name is Shauna Mucklo.
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SPEAKER_01: I have been a wellness warrior for 10 years.
1:03
SPEAKER_01: And what that basically means is I live in the Midwest of the United States.
1:07
SPEAKER_01: And I didn't know what I didn't know, honestly.
1:10
SPEAKER_01: My doctor called me one day and said, listen, I run across the future of wellness.
1:15
SPEAKER_01: It opened my mind.
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SPEAKER_01: And every day since I've become an avid learner.
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SPEAKER_01: I just want to learn more and learn more and learn more.
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SPEAKER_01: So we're happy you're here, and I am excited to introduce our expert of the evening.
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SPEAKER_01: I have gotten to know her through this wonderful company we're associated with.
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SPEAKER_01: And I am so blessed that I get to know people across the globe.
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SPEAKER_01: And when I visited Australia last year, we definitely connected.
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SPEAKER_01: And so I would like to introduce you to Madeline.
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SPEAKER_01: And why don't you tell us a little bit about your background and why this topic in particular is so important to you?
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SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much, Shauna, and welcome from Australia.
1:56
SPEAKER_02: It's already the first of September.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so for me, I have been working in the wellness space for the last 20-25 years.
2:07
SPEAKER_01: I even if it's 20 or 25, that's right.
2:11
SPEAKER_01: Like that doesn't even make sense.
2:12
SPEAKER_01: Are you all thinking the same thing?
2:14
SPEAKER_02: Started when I was two.
2:17
SPEAKER_02: I think my story really started in in my late teens.
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SPEAKER_02: I struggled with my health myself, and I went from doctor to doctor to doctor.
2:28
SPEAKER_02: And by the time you get to the eighth doctor, they think there's something wrong with you, with your mind, with your mental health.
2:35
SPEAKER_02: And I knew it wasn't that, but I certainly didn't feel like a vibrant 17, 18-year-old person.
2:43
SPEAKER_02: And then I I recovered my health to an extent, and I think that was the first key that you need to take responsibility for your own health.
2:54
SPEAKER_02: And then I got married and I had four kids, and by the time I was 30, I was I was back there with lots of brain fog, reading reports on the computer screen with my finger, just not to lose track.
3:11
SPEAKER_02: And I remember thinking, oh my goodness, this is really terrible.
3:15
SPEAKER_02: I'm in my late 20s, early 30s, when when is it when am I going to get out of this?
3:23
SPEAKER_02: And I remember thinking, I've got four reasons for kids to be this tired, but this is not life in abundance.
3:30
SPEAKER_02: And I was just looking for something different.
3:33
SPEAKER_02: And I'm not the band-aid type of person.
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SPEAKER_02: I want to go to the root cause, and when I came across the science of really optimizing your body, that is where everything flicks for me.
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SPEAKER_02: So yeah, really, really excited about it.
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SPEAKER_01: I love it so much.
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SPEAKER_01: And I know that part of your background is working with people with in with a lot of chronic pain, working with people who have like brain issues, brain fog, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Memory, recollection, that kind of thing.
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SPEAKER_01: What are some of the things every day, like everyday people are kind of experiencing the clients that you're working with?
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SPEAKER_01: What are you seeing the most?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So a lot of people don't have a diagnosis yet.
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SPEAKER_02: And I think the medical system has really trained us that if you have a diagnosis, then you know what's wrong with you, and there's a specific label.
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SPEAKER_02: But for everyone else, you should feel normal and having the brain fog and not remembering as well.
4:36
SPEAKER_01: There feels like a big gap there, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Like you're either well or you have a diagnosis.
4:42
SPEAKER_01: There's a lot in between.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
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SPEAKER_02: And I think a lot of people have this feeling that I was well in my early 20s, and that feeling of being bulletproof, you can take on the world, lots of energy to burn, great cognitive function.
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SPEAKER_02: Once you get to that point where you don't feel like that anymore, you start to have questions, and then you go to the medical system and the doctors, and you do your own transjupete research, but oftentimes those people also go for blood tests and everything comes back normal.
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SPEAKER_02: And then you start to think, is it just really in my head?
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SPEAKER_02: And it's not.
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SPEAKER_02: Your cells are also aging, and that brings on a lot of these systems uh uh uh symptoms, and as you mentioned, there is a continuum.
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SPEAKER_02: A lot of things happen before you eventually get that label, and we definitely do not want to go to that label, we want to focus on optimization and starting as early as possible to really have the best future.
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SPEAKER_01: On a previous Wellness Wednesday, we had someone say, and I love this, and I say it all as often as I can now, but you know, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of treatment, right?
6:03
SPEAKER_01: And I couldn't agree with that more.
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SPEAKER_01: Put a two in the chat if you also agree that it is really important to be proactive and to work on prevention, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Before you have to get to that diagnosis and you need treatment, right?
6:19
SPEAKER_01: I think that that's where everybody wants to live.
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SPEAKER_01: But if someone was dealing with some of these things, right, like focus, memory, brain fog, if they're already to the diagnosis, do you feel like it's too late or can they can they turn it around with some preventative ideas?
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SPEAKER_02: I think our bodies are absolutely amazing and so forgiving because a lot of people abuse their bodies unintentionally.
6:48
SPEAKER_02: You don't exercise as much or you eat the processed foods, your body is really forgiving, and I think there's so much that you can do.
6:57
SPEAKER_02: If we think about lifestyle factors, sleep is hugely important.
7:02
SPEAKER_02: Go to bed early enough, have good sleep.
7:06
SPEAKER_02: If if we think about brain health in particular, your brain is a lot of fat, but then also a lot of water.
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SPEAKER_02: So it is very important to hydrate your brain.
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SPEAKER_02: A lot of people have headaches simply because they are dehydrated in regards to brain health.
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SPEAKER_02: So sleep is really important.
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SPEAKER_02: Go to bed at a proper time, get up in the morning, managing stress.
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SPEAKER_02: Your brain is focused on helping you to stay alive, its focus is to protect you.
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SPEAKER_02: So, in terms of stress and cortisol, people always think cortisol is really bad.
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SPEAKER_02: It is bad if it's for a prolonged period, but if the tiger, the saber-tooth tiger, is trapped in you, you absolutely want to have that cortisol spike.
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SPEAKER_02: But if you are in that constant fight or flights, super anxious environment, and I mean a lot of people aren't in that every single day.
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SPEAKER_02: So to tell someone to stop stressing is just not realistic.
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SPEAKER_02: You need to find something else where you can really protect yourself from all the downstream effects of that stress.
8:23
SPEAKER_01: Can everybody else agree that all I can think of when you just said don't tell someone to stop stressing is how stressed you get when somebody tells you to stop stressing?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, literally.
8:32
SPEAKER_01: Okay, I'm so sorry.
8:33
SPEAKER_01: I was like, hold on, let's talk about that because that's like the worst thing you can do in that situation, right?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and it's often a message that comes from from the media and the environment.
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SPEAKER_02: Something is wrong with you.
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SPEAKER_02: You're not ha you're not coping really well.
8:48
SPEAKER_02: And and we're going to talk a little bit later about the cellular health and and what underpins all of this because I think it's it's really important to touch on that.
8:57
SPEAKER_02: But coming back to the lifestyle factors, your nutrition, your diet, as I've mentioned, a large portion of your brain is fat.
9:04
SPEAKER_02: It's really important to have good healthy fats in your diet.
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SPEAKER_02: There was a there was a season where everything was low fat.
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SPEAKER_02: It was actually very unhealthy.
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SPEAKER_02: So it is very important to look at all of those factors.
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SPEAKER_02: And like you mentioned, this there's never too late.
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SPEAKER_02: Start today, and you don't have to fix everything in one day.
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SPEAKER_02: Find one little thing that you can work on and be really consistent.
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SPEAKER_02: And then also movement, exercise.
9:32
SPEAKER_02: Your brain absolutely loves movements, and it's not just the movement, it is what happens as the side effect of the movement.
9:40
SPEAKER_02: It is increased oxygen.
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SPEAKER_02: Your brain needs a lot of oxygen, it is the blood flow.
9:46
SPEAKER_02: So there's a lot of things that we can do to protect our brain health.
9:51
SPEAKER_01: So I think everybody can also agree with I don't think there's one person who doesn't unintentionally sabotage their health, right?
10:00
SPEAKER_01: Like what that's what I think all the time when I think about wellness.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like it somebody says, well, how how quickly can we opt get optimized?
10:09
SPEAKER_01: Well, it depends on how much sabotaging we're doing, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Against against the optimization process.
10:14
SPEAKER_01: And I think that's part of it.
10:16
SPEAKER_01: And now it's not, I don't think that the good news is maybe to give hope, it doesn't take perfection to become optimal.
10:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right.
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SPEAKER_01: It really doesn't, because that's a scary thought sometimes.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like, I have to be perfect in how I eat, and I have to be perfect in how I move, and I have to be perfect in how I sleep.
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SPEAKER_01: And you know, no, just do when you can just do a little bit better, it makes a big difference, right?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: It's so interesting that you that you mentioned that I listened to someone talk about exercise yesterday, and they were talking about new science that they are commenting on, and they call it exercise snacks.
10:58
SPEAKER_02: So instead of you going and running a marathon or doing the hour, because everyone has the excuse of I don't have the hour to run in the morning or whatever, exercise snacks are literally between one and three minutes where you do exercise.
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SPEAKER_02: And they found that if you can do three exercise snacks per day of three minutes, and it needs to be more intense exercise, not just going up the stairs once, but maybe if you run up and down your stairs, three minutes a day, Shauna, three minutes, three times a day, nine minutes a day, reduces all cause mortality by 40%.
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SPEAKER_00: That's unbelievable.
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SPEAKER_00: I killed it.
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SPEAKER_00: I love it.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean exercise snacks.
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SPEAKER_00: I love that.
11:46
SPEAKER_00: I love a snack.
11:47
SPEAKER_00: Like let's reframe this.
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SPEAKER_02: And if you can do like habit stacking, and you can say, I could say for before every single meal, I'm just going to run up and down my stairs for three minutes.
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SPEAKER_02: Everyone can do that.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's going to have a positive impact on your brain, on your focus, concentration, your oxygen, blood flow, your blood sugar regulation.
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SPEAKER_02: That is going to have a downstream effect on focus and concentration and memory.
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SPEAKER_02: So I think there's so many things that we can do, but I do think people are sometimes just so overwhelmed.
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SPEAKER_02: And because they are chasing that perfection, they just don't do anything.
12:28
SPEAKER_02: But you just need to start some way and then build it gradually.
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SPEAKER_01: I am guilty of that because sometimes starting a new habit, I try for perfection.
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SPEAKER_01: And as soon as I don't hit perfection, I get disappointed in myself, and then I stop the habit altogether.
12:42
SPEAKER_01: So I love the fact that we don't have to shoot for perfection, that literally just a little bit better every day or with every habit can make a massive difference in our health.
12:55
SPEAKER_01: And I'm proof of that because I'm certainly still not perfect.
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SPEAKER_01: But for 10 years, I not only feel better, my blood work is better, my biological age is better even than 10 years ago.
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SPEAKER_01: I look younger, like all the things.
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SPEAKER_01: And I certainly haven't been doing everything perfect.
13:11
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_01: Even today.
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SPEAKER_01: It's just a little bit better.
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SPEAKER_01: So I always look to give people hope in that aspect if we don't have to shoot perfection.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
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SPEAKER_02: And I also think if you have a look at the blue zones, they are very much focused on lifestyle.
13:26
SPEAKER_02: And I had an interesting conversation with someone once where she read something about the blue zones and how they often eat pasta.
13:35
SPEAKER_02: And she was on the bandwagon to have more pasta in a diet.
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SPEAKER_02: And I said, Well, you need to remember if you get up in the morning and the first thing you are so stressed about your meeting, and you get in your car and you drive to work and you're an hour in traffic, and the whole day your boss is on your back and it's just stress, stress, stress.
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SPEAKER_02: And then at the end of the day, you eat pasta.
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SPEAKER_02: It's not going to have the same effect.
14:05
SPEAKER_02: And if you have a look at the blue zone people in those regions, it's not like they are going to the gym and working out for three hours every single day.
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SPEAKER_02: It is just the movement.
14:16
SPEAKER_02: Sitting is the new smoking.
14:19
SPEAKER_02: So stand up, walk around, have walking meetings, drink more water, filter your water, toxins, all of those are really little things, even in terms of brain health.
14:31
SPEAKER_02: Because our brain is a lot of fat, fat often traps the toxins.
14:37
SPEAKER_02: So if you are using toxic sunscreen and cleaning products, makeup, all of those hygiene products, those toxins are getting caught in your brain, the brain tissue.
14:51
SPEAKER_02: And that is going to have a significant effect on focus and concentration and word finding.
14:57
SPEAKER_02: And it accumulates over time.
15:00
SPEAKER_02: So you may not notice it when you are 26 and 28, but when you get to 40 and 15, 60, it all adds up.
15:08
SPEAKER_02: So I think there's a lot of things that you can do.
15:10
SPEAKER_02: It doesn't have to be at the extremes, it can be all of those little daily activities.
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SPEAKER_01: I think something you just mentioned is something we have to think about.
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SPEAKER_01: We always want to wait until we're starting to feel the symptoms, right?
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SPEAKER_01: But some like that to me, that doesn't make sense, right?
15:29
SPEAKER_01: To me, it makes sense to try to do better today so that we never feel the symptoms.
15:34
SPEAKER_01: Because just like you said, you're it's all these little things that compound over time, right?
15:39
SPEAKER_01: That then build up to create the symptom.
15:42
SPEAKER_01: So why wouldn't we want to just maybe not let it compound, right?
15:47
SPEAKER_01: And that brings us to like root cause that we talk about before we pushed record of this.
15:54
SPEAKER_01: I we were talking about root cause and how important it is for you to not just slap a band-aid on something, right?
16:01
SPEAKER_01: Like if somebody is already in symptoms, let's talk about that right now.
16:04
SPEAKER_01: If somebody's already in symptoms, what do you think is at the root, especially when we're talking about brain, where do they need to dig into and start really looking into like what is the root cause of it and not just slapping on a band-aid?
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SPEAKER_02: I think if you think about your body, you don't really have a body.
16:23
SPEAKER_02: You've got systems.
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SPEAKER_02: You've got a cardiovascular system, you've got a neurological system, and all those systems are integrated.
16:30
SPEAKER_02: And then if you break it down, you don't only have the systems, you've got the organs.
16:36
SPEAKER_02: And ultimately it boils down to what happens at the cellular level.
16:42
SPEAKER_02: We've got muscle cells, you've got neurons, nerve cells, and you need to make sure that your nerve cells are very healthy.
16:53
SPEAKER_02: And what I've experienced in a lot of people struggle with the lifestyle demands because they are already on a cellular level so taxed, they really struggle with fatigue and brain fog.
17:12
SPEAKER_02: And just to think, to do to engage in a better diet, to do the exercise or whatever, it's just another tab that they need to open in their brain.
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SPEAKER_02: It is just too much.
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SPEAKER_02: So if you can focus on what happens on a cellular level, and what I've come to learn is that oxidative stress is an absolutely big deal.
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SPEAKER_02: And if you look at your nerve cells, your brain cells, the way that it conducts from the one cell to the next cell is actually through electricity.
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SPEAKER_02: Very low load of electricity, like millivolts, but that is how it conducts from one cell to the next.
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SPEAKER_02: And oxidative stress interrupts that electricity, it interferes with that electrical process in your brain.
18:07
SPEAKER_02: And also you've got a lot of neurotransmitters in your brain cells, your nerve cells.
18:14
SPEAKER_02: So the way that it conducts is literally chemical cocktails of neurotransmitters, and you need to make sure that everything on that level operates really well.
18:28
SPEAKER_02: And then obviously, with all the exercise and oxygen and good food, whole foods, nutrients, that is going to support all of that.
18:37
SPEAKER_02: But that is really where it comes from.
18:40
SPEAKER_02: And then also from a mitochondrial perspective, I don't know, short of the stuff.
18:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, let's definitely quick.
18:48
SPEAKER_01: Because I'm like, okay, hold on.
18:49
SPEAKER_01: If I'm just trying to think of if someone hasn't heard of what oxidative stress is, because that was me 10 years ago.
18:55
SPEAKER_01: I was like, oxidative stress sounds like a really horrible thing, and I don't want it, but I don't really know what it is.
19:02
SPEAKER_01: And it because it can cause a lot of bad to happen in your body if you have too much of it.
19:07
SPEAKER_01: And I hate to tell you, if you if you're unaware of it, you probably have more than you want to.
19:12
SPEAKER_01: And if you're not proactively working against it, because what I've uh well, let me just ask you.
19:18
SPEAKER_01: So, what in your opinion, your words, is oxidative stress?
19:21
SPEAKER_01: What is that?
19:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So oxidative stress is the oxidation, the browning.
19:29
SPEAKER_02: So think about if you leave an apple on the county and it turns brown, it's the presence of oxygen that damages the cell.
19:38
SPEAKER_02: Interestingly, we've previously talked about the brain being really expensive in terms of energy and consuming oxygen.
19:50
SPEAKER_02: So there's a lot of oxidative stress happening on a brain level, and it ultimately leads to brain inflammation.
19:57
SPEAKER_02: So that is going to slow everything down.
20:00
SPEAKER_02: It is just an extra load on the system.
20:03
SPEAKER_02: So it is definitely not something that you want to have, the oxidative stress, but amazingly, your body has an inbuilt mechanism to get rid of the oxidative stress.
20:17
SPEAKER_02: As a child, you've got this amazing mechanism where your body makes its own antioxidants, and those antioxidants are like little Pac-Man millions gobbling up all of the oxidative stress.
20:33
SPEAKER_02: But in our early 20s, that system starts to slow down, and that is why people feel like they are invincible and good improved in their early 20s, and then those symptoms start to appear.
20:46
SPEAKER_02: And it's not always the label, but it's just I don't feel that great, I can't remember that well, the rain fog, all of those symptoms that just isn't optimal.
21:00
SPEAKER_01: I always used to say, I thought I would feel better.
21:03
SPEAKER_01: Like I expected to feel better than I do.
21:06
SPEAKER_01: I couldn't really even explain what I was feeling, but I was like, I just expected to feel better than I do.
21:11
SPEAKER_01: And I think that we all, if you're feeling that way at all, you should want better for yourself because I'm telling you, optimal is achievable and it feels really good.
21:20
SPEAKER_01: So oxidative stress to me, I love the way you explain that really, um, is in my brain the buildup.
21:27
SPEAKER_01: It's like a buildup inside of your cells that happens kind of like you said, that compounding effect that can happen small, but every day, every week, every month just keeps building up, building up, building up until our cells are kind of gunked up full of this stress, right?
21:42
SPEAKER_01: And we need to unleash those Pac Man to go eat it up so that our cells can function properly.
21:48
SPEAKER_01: So that's kind of what oxidative stress is.
21:50
SPEAKER_01: If you don't, if you didn't know.
21:52
SPEAKER_01: And then you went on to talk about like mitochondria.
21:54
SPEAKER_01: When I, it's so funny because I remember the only thing I knew about mitochondria and when I Sort of to kind of it became more of a buzzword more recently in the last, you know, 15 years or so.
22:05
SPEAKER_01: I remember mighty, mighty mitochondria, the powerhouse of the cell, learning this little chant that we clapped our hands to in seventh grade science class.
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SPEAKER_01: That's all I can remember every time I hear mitochondria, but it's so true.
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SPEAKER_01: The powerhouse of the cell.
22:20
SPEAKER_01: So to me, I'm like, well, I certainly want my powerhouses working right.
22:24
SPEAKER_01: So talk to us about mitochondria and how important they are for your whole body, but especially brain health.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
22:32
SPEAKER_02: So I think the most important thing is to understand that picture that you've seen in seventh grade biology class about the mitochondria, just one mitochondria, mitochondria per cell, that was wrong.
22:45
SPEAKER_02: You've got millions and millions of these little mitochondria organelles in every single cell.
22:51
SPEAKER_02: Now, if you think about your car, if you switch on your car, you're going to have exhaust fumes come out the back.
22:57
SPEAKER_02: So it's kind of the catch-22 because the moment you switch on the energy in your cell that creates oxidative stress.
23:06
SPEAKER_02: And also, if you think about your genes and your DNA, so you've got DNA in your nucleus of your cell, but then you also have DNA in the mitochondria.
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SPEAKER_02: It has its own DNA and your cells need to replicate.
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SPEAKER_02: So the cells that you have now, the cells that you were born with, are not the same cells because cells don't last forever.
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SPEAKER_02: So you literally need DNA to replicate into the new cell.
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SPEAKER_02: And if you make a copy from a copy from a copy, from a copy, from a copy, by the time you get to 40 years, 50 years old, your copies are really bad.
23:52
SPEAKER_02: And that is why you feel so bad, because the messaging within the cell and the DNA becomes really dysregulated and it doesn't know when to switch on the inflammation, when to switch it off.
24:07
SPEAKER_02: So that is what we what we work with and what we mean with epigenetics is to really get the cell to be regulated.
24:17
SPEAKER_02: And if you think about the brain health, you especially want to have good and healthy mitochondria firing really well, giving you all of the energy, but then also from that genetic standpoint, that epigenetic standpoint, you don't want that cell messaging to be dysregulated where you have too much inflammation or yeah, expression of genes that shouldn't be expressed.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
24:45
SPEAKER_01: It's so fascinating.
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SPEAKER_01: Put a seven in the chat if you're like, well, I never really thought about my cell health.
24:53
SPEAKER_01: Like, truly, because I think that all I mean, we don't go through life every day waking up going, I wonder how much oxidative stress I have today.
25:00
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_01: I wonder how my mitochondria are functioning today.
25:04
SPEAKER_01: But really, when it comes down to anything that we want working right, we have to make that that that foundation.
25:09
SPEAKER_01: I think of it like bricks of a home, like a foundation of a home.
25:12
SPEAKER_01: You wouldn't want to stack all this life on top of a silly foundation, right?
25:17
SPEAKER_01: An unstable foundation.
25:19
SPEAKER_01: And at the root cause of anything bad that happens, I would go down and make sure your foundation is working properly.
25:27
SPEAKER_01: And I love this about you.
25:29
SPEAKER_01: I love that you are very particular, very particular about any kind of supporting products and anything that you would advise yourself for yourself, your family, and especially your clients, what you would advise them to do.
25:45
SPEAKER_01: So let's dive in to how you choose and what you recommend to reduce that oxidative stress.
25:53
SPEAKER_01: I happen to know exactly what it is, so I'm gonna I'm gonna hold it up here.
25:56
SPEAKER_01: It's called Protandum NRF2.
25:58
SPEAKER_01: Will you talk about why you love this for people so much and love it for everybody, not just one particular set of people?
26:07
SPEAKER_02: I think if if you have a pulse, you need to be on this product because everyone has oxidative stress.
26:14
SPEAKER_02: And even what I've mentioned before, as a child, you've got this in born in program to reduce your oxidative stress with everything that is happening.
26:25
SPEAKER_02: Thinking about your brain, your brain, all that electrical signaling.
26:31
SPEAKER_02: If your child is on a cell phone, playing games, all that EMF impacts your brain, all of that creates more oxidative stress.
26:41
SPEAKER_02: The toxins that we accidentally consume, all of that creates oxidative stress, and protandem in RF2 reduces oxidative stress.
26:52
SPEAKER_02: There's a USA study, 40% in 30 days.
26:55
SPEAKER_02: It is absolutely incredible.
26:59
SPEAKER_02: And for me personally, when I was really struggling with brain fog and fatigue, and thinking, how in the world am I ever going to win?
27:11
SPEAKER_02: Feeling like this, it was NRAF2 that helped me to get on top of it.
27:17
SPEAKER_02: Because, and this is different for every single one.
27:21
SPEAKER_02: I'm not here to diagnose or make any claims regarding hearing disease or anything like that.
27:28
SPEAKER_02: But what I'm telling you is that your body's on your side.
27:31
SPEAKER_02: And if you can help your body to get rid of the gunk and clean out the cells and get everything working again, then it's amazing what your body will do for you.
27:41
SPEAKER_02: And for me personally, when I started with the products, I didn't feel anything on day one, didn't expect it to, but on day two, I woke up before five o'clock, before my alarm, and I was laying in bed thinking, this is too good to be true.
27:58
SPEAKER_02: Can't be, it must be coincidence.
28:00
SPEAKER_02: And it happened this next morning again.
28:02
SPEAKER_02: And then I started to dig into the science, and I saw how important it is to clean out the cells, the oxidative stress, to activate your cells.
28:11
SPEAKER_02: So I know a lot of people use supplements.
28:14
SPEAKER_02: I used a handsful of supplements, didn't feel anything ever.
28:20
SPEAKER_02: But supplementation is based on taking more, more B12, more magnesium, more vitamin C or zinc.
28:28
SPEAKER_02: And I'm not saying that that's unimportant.
28:31
SPEAKER_02: If you have a deficiency, then absolutely you need to have a look at those levels.
28:36
SPEAKER_02: But this is the new generation of wellness.
28:39
SPEAKER_02: It is really tapping into your cells and helping yourselves to function as it should without the gunk.
28:45
SPEAKER_02: And that makes signaling.
28:48
SPEAKER_01: So admittedly, I started waking up before my alarm.
28:53
SPEAKER_01: I used to call myself a habitual snooze pusher in the mornings.
28:57
SPEAKER_01: But I will admittedly say when I was waking up before my alarm, my alarm was not set for 5 a.m.
29:03
SPEAKER_01: So kudos to you.
29:05
SPEAKER_01: That's very early.
29:06
SPEAKER_01: That's very early.
29:07
SPEAKER_01: But that's that's what happened to me too.
29:09
SPEAKER_01: I was like, could this really be true?
29:10
SPEAKER_01: I would wake up before my alarm and it kept hacking happening consistently.
29:15
SPEAKER_01: That was one of the first things that I noticed.
29:17
SPEAKER_01: And then it continued to unravel.
29:19
SPEAKER_01: And I think the beautiful part of it is that how long have you been taking these proteinum NRF2?
29:27
SPEAKER_01: About nine years.
29:29
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
29:29
SPEAKER_01: I've been a little over today, right?
29:31
SPEAKER_01: And if that tells you that it's that important that you we continue to take it every single day, the compounding effects are even more awesome than the effects that you see on it in the, you know, the beginning months of activating your NRF2 pathway.
29:46
SPEAKER_01: But okay, you talked about mitochondria, and I know this is one of the products that you are in love with, especially to help with the mitochondria.
29:55
SPEAKER_01: It's called Protandum NRF1.
29:57
SPEAKER_01: Will you talk a little bit about this?
29:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
30:00
SPEAKER_02: So with your mitochondria, as I've mentioned before, you've got millions per cell, but then with aging, with oxidative stress, your mitochondria become less, so less in number, but then also less effective.
30:16
SPEAKER_02: And with that NRF one, you are going to build more mitochondria and more effective mitochondria.
30:22
SPEAKER_02: So it's going to help with cell communication, cell signaling.
30:25
SPEAKER_02: So it's absolutely something that you want to have in your body.
30:29
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
30:30
SPEAKER_01: And I I love it that I feel like these are like sister products, right?
30:34
SPEAKER_01: The product we just talked about, Protatum NRF2 and Protonum NRF1.
30:37
SPEAKER_01: I love it because, kind of like you said, you're going to boost the energy source, but then you're going to do the cleanup right behind it.
30:43
SPEAKER_01: Like so they they go hand in hand and they're very, very powerful together.
30:48
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so we have one more Protandum product, and it's called Protandum NAD.
30:54
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure put a 10 in the chat if you've heard of NAD.
30:57
SPEAKER_01: It's a big buzzword recently.
30:59
SPEAKER_01: People are spending hundreds and hundreds of dollars getting these IV injections, right?
31:04
SPEAKER_01: Of uh, or NAD IV injections.
31:07
SPEAKER_01: But this is very cool because there's no NAD in it, but it's absolutely a precursor to help your body make more of its own, which is really, really the when she said it's the next generation, this is the next generation of science.
31:23
SPEAKER_01: When you talk about this product and how they all three kind of work together.
31:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
31:28
SPEAKER_02: So, so NAD works on the mechanism of autophagy, and that is literally just helping your cell to optimize.
31:37
SPEAKER_02: So I don't know if you've you must have heard of intermittent fasting, Shona.
31:42
SPEAKER_02: A lot of people do intermittent fasting, and the reason why it works is because you put your body into starvation mode.
31:49
SPEAKER_02: And for that period that your body is in starvation mode, your body goes into optimizing mode and it says, okay, so with the cells that we have, we are going to eliminate the rogue components, the rogue organelles.
32:03
SPEAKER_02: We're going to gobble that up, and we are basically just going to optimize performance.
32:10
SPEAKER_02: And that is exactly what NAD does.
32:12
SPEAKER_02: It helps your body to go into this state where it's optimal, and that has a huge impact on brain function, and not only for brain function, very anti-aging overall.
32:25
SPEAKER_02: So, what I love about using all of those three products is the synergy.
32:32
SPEAKER_02: So when you take the NRA two on its own, it's amazing.
32:36
SPEAKER_02: If you take NRA 1 on its own, amazing.
32:39
SPEAKER_02: Same with NAD.
32:40
SPEAKER_02: But when you combine all three of those, it exponentially increases the work that it does in all of the different categories.
32:50
SPEAKER_02: So it's just bad for your buck.
32:53
SPEAKER_01: It's so true.
32:54
SPEAKER_01: I love it.
32:55
SPEAKER_01: I've taken them off three every single day for as long as I can remember.
33:00
SPEAKER_01: And it's so simple, you guys.
33:02
SPEAKER_01: It's not like when you said it's almost like, you know, learning a new nutrition plan or a diet, it can feel like opening another tag in your art or tab in your already exhausted brain to learn all of the things.
33:13
SPEAKER_01: Guess what?
33:14
SPEAKER_01: This is a pretty simple thing.
33:15
SPEAKER_01: Open a bottle, throw it back, it's done in 20 seconds.
33:19
SPEAKER_01: Like it is so simple to do, and you'll be helping yourself while you're trying to do the exercise snacks and learning the one little habit at a time in lifestyle adjustments as well.
33:33
SPEAKER_01: Okay, last but not least, before we end, I we would be doing ourselves a disservice if we didn't talk about Axio, uh, a neurotransmitter drink, basically brain food is what I call it.
33:45
SPEAKER_01: Um, it's so yummy, but the things that I that happens and that we hear from people when they add this into their life on the daily, will you talk about what you love about this simple drink that you just put the powder and some water?
34:02
SPEAKER_02: I absolutely love my Axio.
34:04
SPEAKER_02: I take it every single day.
34:06
SPEAKER_02: Axio, like you mentioned, it's inotropic, it really facilitates those neurotransmitters.
34:12
SPEAKER_02: Again, if you look at your neurotransmitters, it's all about brain signaling.
34:16
SPEAKER_02: You want your brain signaling to be optimized.
34:19
SPEAKER_02: So it's going to have it give you that clarity.
34:23
SPEAKER_02: So oftentimes when people are looking for that mental energy, they go to caffeine, coffee, and it gives you the jet, it's this anxious energy, which is not what you want.
34:35
SPEAKER_02: You want the calm and focused energy.
34:39
SPEAKER_02: So if you look at neurotransmitters from a neurophysiology perspective, you've got neurotransmitters that are more on the exciting spectrum and then on the inhibitory spectrum.
34:56
SPEAKER_02: And you you don't want either of those.
34:59
SPEAKER_02: You don't want the apathetic energy, you also don't want the anxious energy.
35:05
SPEAKER_02: You want it to be regulated, and that is really going to give you that calm and focused brain attention.
35:13
SPEAKER_02: Amazing ingredients, clean ingredients.
35:17
SPEAKER_02: My kids use it as well.
35:19
SPEAKER_02: And very interesting.
35:21
SPEAKER_02: I started giving it to my kids and didn't necessarily tell them what it was for, but they discovered the benefits themselves and then came to me.
35:32
SPEAKER_02: And every now and again they walk past my desk and snatch a little axe.
35:37
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, it's absolutely amazing what it does for focus and concentration.
35:41
SPEAKER_02: I love it.
35:42
SPEAKER_02: And that mental, mental energy preventing the fog.
35:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure.
35:49
SPEAKER_01: I think adults need it for sure.
35:51
SPEAKER_01: Parents need it, right?
35:52
SPEAKER_01: I I'd categorized mom fog into a thing, right?
35:56
SPEAKER_01: And this completely helped take it away.
35:59
SPEAKER_01: But I will tell you when my husband, so my husband's a mental health therapist and has been for years and years.
36:05
SPEAKER_01: And when he read the ingredients in this, he was so excited because he said, you know, three of the top supplements that he would tell parents that had their kids were dealing with focus issues, right?
36:17
SPEAKER_01: And they were getting diagnoses and they didn't want to put them on medications, right?
36:20
SPEAKER_01: His suggestion was, of course, some behavioral therapy, but as well as he would encourage them to go get supplements like DMAE and L-theanine, right?
36:29
SPEAKER_01: Because those were showing such great science of helping calm the brain.
36:34
SPEAKER_01: And when he read of the ingredients in that, he was like, phenomenal.
36:38
SPEAKER_01: This has those supplements that I was telling parents to go out and get, plus all the other great things like the magnesium and the B12, right?
36:47
SPEAKER_01: Like those those other ingredients in there that will help, but it's so yummy and kids want to drink it, right?
36:53
SPEAKER_01: And so the the things that we see in children who struggle with focus or mental imbalance is really, really phenomenal.
37:02
SPEAKER_01: And I get excited every time I think about that for all the little ones as well.
37:07
SPEAKER_01: So I think we have talked about a lot, and let's wrap up.
37:12
SPEAKER_01: Last thoughts overall from you, my dear, of brain health.
37:17
SPEAKER_01: What would be your biggest thought that you could help people if they wanted to just start doing something to really focus on prevention, really focus on keeping their brain, optimizing their brain health or keeping their brain healthy, or even some healing that might mean need to be done with in the brain?
37:36
SPEAKER_01: What would be your next your first one to three steps that you should take?
37:41
SPEAKER_02: I think it's starting small.
37:44
SPEAKER_02: You don't have to conquer Rome in a day.
37:48
SPEAKER_02: Just find the two or three things that you can accommodate consistently in your life.
37:54
SPEAKER_02: Do the exercise snacks, maybe it's just walking, maybe it's just getting a treadmill and walking on the treadmill while you're watching TV or whatever it may be.
38:04
SPEAKER_02: It doesn't have to be this significant intervention in your life.
38:11
SPEAKER_02: And then I would definitely recommend the products because, from an aging perspective, if you know what happens to your cells, and when I say aging, it's it's not the gray hair and the wrinkles, it's it's not that type of aging, it is the decline in those inbuilt systems that kept you young, active, vibrant, healthy, happy as a child, but from your early 20s, those systems start to decline.
38:40
SPEAKER_02: Your 60-year-old self, 70-year-old self, 80-year-old self will thank you for starting that and starting it as soon as possible because it is going to optimize yourselves.
38:53
SPEAKER_02: And we don't have a crystal ball, and we can see what's going to happen with you from a health perspective 20 and 40 years from now.
39:01
SPEAKER_02: And we don't do not make any claims, but you do not want to get to that age and see what would have happened if I started it earlier.
39:12
SPEAKER_01: I love it.
39:14
SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much.
39:15
SPEAKER_01: I learned something new every single week, and I hope that you guys do too.
39:19
SPEAKER_01: And I hope that you will come back for the next wellness Wednesday.
39:23
SPEAKER_01: We just continue to, I think knowledge is power, right?
39:25
SPEAKER_01: And as we increase our knowledge, the the more we can choose what we want to take on board for ourselves and some that we're not ready for.
39:32
SPEAKER_01: But I appreciate healthcare professionals like you who give your time and speaking of your brain, your beautiful brain of knowledge, to all of us tonight to learn a little bit more about what we can do.
39:44
SPEAKER_01: So I appreciate you so much.
39:46
SPEAKER_01: Thank you, everybody.
39:47
SPEAKER_01: Show um Madeline a little bit of love in the chat.
39:51
SPEAKER_01: I would really, really appreciate that because I appreciate your time a lot.
39:55
SPEAKER_01: But make sure to catch Wellness Wednesday every single week.
39:58
SPEAKER_01: But it's also recorded on the Wellness Wednesday activation podcast for you to download and listen anytime.
40:04
SPEAKER_01: So thank you all so much, everybody.
40:06
SPEAKER_03: Thanks, Shona.
40:15
SPEAKER_00: Okay, everybody, have a great night.
40:17
SPEAKER_00: Thank you for listening.
40:19
SPEAKER_03: You always so amazing.
40:21
SPEAKER_00: Oh, appreciate you.
40:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, bye-bye, God.
40:24
SPEAKER_00: Much love, blessings.
40:26
SPEAKER_03: Hi, Shona.
40:27
SPEAKER_00: Good night.
40:29
SPEAKER_00: Hi, sweet Janet.