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- 0:01Hello and welcome. Today we're going to be talking
- 0:04about a few things related to content marketing.
- 0:07And the reason why is because the listener of the podcast,
- 0:09Franklin, I'm going to use his surname just to preserve his
- 0:13anonymity. But of course, Franklin, you say
- 0:15you're a regular listener, so I trust that you're listening.
- 0:18So this is the answer to your question.
- 0:20So let's keep going. So he tried some experimenting
- 0:23with content marketing and then he ran an advertising campaign
- 0:28to an offer and it didn't work to convert any sales.
- 0:32So the podcast episode is just to explore principles behind
- 0:36content marketing, how you do it right, and then hopefully how if
- 0:40you do content marketing right. And then if you advertise a
- 0:43program that's for those of you who are coaches, consultants,
- 0:49you know, those kinds of people, hopefully you'll be able to run
- 0:55everything so that they converts and then you get clients at the
- 0:57end of the day. So let me give you a little bit
- 1:00of a background. You know what, on second
- 1:02thought, let me not go too much into his story, but basically
- 1:05just know that Franklin is in recovery from drug addiction.
- 1:11And so his whole ministry is built around that.
- 1:15People who are currently in drug addiction or people who are on
- 1:19their way out or trying to plan, you know, trying to get out of
- 1:23drug addiction. So summary, that's it.
- 1:25I'm not going to give any more details.
- 1:28So Franklin started his content creation journey in January of
- 1:332026. That is, let's just round it up.
- 1:36Let's say not five months now let's round it up five months.
- 1:40So that will give a context. Then the message that he sent,
- 1:44you know, the usual, good afternoon, Sir, trust you're
- 1:46doing great, blah, blah, blah. I've been trying to market this,
- 1:50this last one last week across my social media platform.
- 1:54And then he attached the video, but no one seems to have
- 1:57indicated interest. Is there something I should do
- 2:00different? OK, so he sent me the video and
- 2:04then he also sent me the, what's it called, the video and then
- 2:09the the flyer, the flyer that he used to promote it.
- 2:12So he's been trying to promote it across social media platforms
- 2:15for one week, but nobody is indicating interest.
- 2:18Now I'm going to, I'm not going to describe the video or the
- 2:21flyer because for the purposes of what we're trying to achieve
- 2:24now, you know, that's not important yet.
- 2:26But let's go quickly into some principles behind content
- 2:29marketing and some of the main issues that we're supposed to be
- 2:31looking at. Now for those of you who are
- 2:34listening to the podcast for the first time, marketing is the
- 2:40business function that tells the whole world, that tells the
- 2:44neighbors, that tells you know, people within your vicinity.
- 2:48Marketing is a business function that shouts, it tells everybody
- 2:52I exist. This is what I do.
- 2:56This is how I can help you. This is how you can work with
- 2:58me. This is the benefit you will
- 3:00enjoy. Marketing is mass broadcasting
- 3:04as in we, they shout because we want everybody to hear us.
- 3:07We want people to feel us. We want people to know that
- 3:10we're on ground because like my guy, Grant Cardone says it's not
- 3:15really my guy. But anyway, so like Grant
- 3:17carried on says, you know, nobody can do business with you.
- 3:20In fact, I can't know. How does he say it again, nobody
- 3:22can flow with you unless they know you.
- 3:24All right, let me repeat that again because some of you, you
- 3:30know, you start off, you say business is hard and things like
- 3:33that. Then by the time I asked one or
- 3:34two questions, I just said, OK, this is the problem.
- 3:37Nobody can flow with you until they know you.
- 3:42Nobody can give you money until they know that you exist, until
- 3:47they know that you're on ground, until they know that you're
- 3:50reliable, until like people need to see you first.
- 3:55They need to know you before they can flow with you.
- 3:57So marketing is that business function.
- 4:01If you know, they shout, this is me, I exist, I'm over here,
- 4:06this, I can help you. This is how you benefit from
- 4:09doing business with me, blah, blah, blah.
- 4:12If you don't do that, then you're dead on arrival.
- 4:18So the next step is sales because when we do marketing,
- 4:22remember it is mass broadcasting.
- 4:23So we they shout, everybody will hear.
- 4:26Hopefully one or two people will come forward.
- 4:29For those one or two people who come forward, you know you will
- 4:33start to relate, you start to have a conversation one-on-one.
- 4:37From those one-on-one conversations, hopefully you
- 4:39close a couple of deals, but this is the relationship, this
- 4:42is how it works. First of all, you shout, one or
- 4:47two people go indicate, then you start talking to those people,
- 4:51hopefully you close some deals. So for those of us who schooled
- 4:53in Lagos, because I went to Saint Gregory's College, some of
- 4:56you say Oberlende, but now it's Oberlende, SW Ikoi, that's what
- 5:00we call it. So I went to Saint Gregory's
- 5:02College, SW Ikoi and for those of you who went to school in
- 5:06those days, you remember now you get to Oberlende bus stop.
- 5:10You open it on that bridge. You enter the car, the boss, the
- 5:15downfall, you're heading to a catcher.
- 5:17By the time we I can't remember that first bridge that you climb
- 5:21up, climb down there as you're approaching the mainland bridge
- 5:24at this point now nobody's getting off the bus.
- 5:26There was always that one guy who will stand up.
- 5:29I will say praise the Lord. Everybody will say Hallelujah
- 5:31and they will say brothers and sisters, you know, Novak's and
- 5:34pastor so so so and so and so and so and that today I want to
- 5:38talk to you about our Lord Jesus Christ.
- 5:39Something something, something from talking to Jesus Christ.
- 5:42The guy will now enter. Do you have waist pain?
- 5:44Do you have back pain? Do you have JDJD?
- 5:45Do you have this dot dot dot dot as I'm see very smooth
- 5:48transition. You start by praise the Lord.
- 5:50Next thing you're trying to sell miracle drug then basically his
- 5:55whole speech will be you know if you have hypertension, if you
- 5:58have BP, you have this you have that you know God will heal you
- 6:00but take this product. You know low low sperm counter
- 6:03back pain this not that you know all those miracle drug that is
- 6:08marketing you enter the bus you say praise the Lord people shout
- 6:12Hallelujah see response people don't engage then give your
- 6:18sales speech. Now usually one or two people
- 6:21will raise their hands and I was always wondering now who are
- 6:23these people raising their hands like I don't know you from
- 6:25anywhere You want me to just carry this thing that you're
- 6:27selling. I'll just be drinking it because
- 6:30because of what? Like I don't know you.
- 6:32But anyway, the guy will make a couple of sales.
- 6:35Then by the time we finish from that mainland bridge I'm
- 6:38approaching. That is your corn job bridge.
- 6:41I can't remember. There's one bus stop there.
- 6:42I can't remember the name because I've been in Lagos in a
- 6:44very long time. The guy would drop them and then
- 6:47we'll move and guess what, the journey continues.
- 6:50He will hop on the next bus and it starts all over.
- 6:52Praise the Lord, Hallelujah. And then miracle drug low sperm
- 6:56county, JDJD, back pain, hypertension, diabetes, all
- 7:00these miracle drugs, right? So that's how it works.
- 7:04Marketing shout, let people see you, then sales, one-on-one
- 7:08interactions. I repeat, because some of you
- 7:12get confused, you know, which is better, sales or marketing?
- 7:15No, like none is better. They work hand in hand.
- 7:18It's a partnership, all right, So marketing will do its part,
- 7:23sales will do their own part, but that's how everything works.
- 7:27That's the connection. Bear that in mind.
- 7:30That's the spirit behind all the things we're going to discuss
- 7:32now. Marketing and sales shout, let
- 7:35everybody see me, Let people know me.
- 7:37Then I say let people flow with me.
- 7:40People should know me, then they should flow with me.
- 7:42That's how it works. Know me, flow me.
- 7:44All right, OK, where was I now in the old TV era.
- 7:53Sorry, look at me saying old TV era as if TV era is over.
- 7:56TV is still here, but in the television era before Internet.
- 8:00All right. For those of us who are late
- 8:0170s, early 80s children, the marketing models were around by
- 8:07then. Yes, I know I was an embryo by
- 8:10then. But The thing is, you know, my
- 8:11mom ended up being an advertising, a marketing exec.
- 8:14So, you know, I used to hear one or two things and then from her
- 8:17books I used to read one or two things.
- 8:19So the model that was dominant during that era was either Aida,
- 8:24it's an acronym Attention, interest, desire, action.
- 8:30I repeat, those days when we wanted to market through TV, the
- 8:37marketing professionals were thinking about taking people
- 8:40through 4 distinct and related stages, Attention, interest,
- 8:46desire, action. Let us create attention, then
- 8:52let us generate interest. Let us instill desire in a
- 8:56couple of people and let us get them to take action.
- 9:02So with what I've said, now know me, flow with me, shout, let
- 9:08everybody see that I'm here. Then I try and collect money
- 9:11from one or two people. Is five months enough to build
- 9:17authority positioning in the drug recovery space?
- 9:24I repeat, frankly means well. He wants to talk to people in
- 9:31recovery, but honestly, it's five months enough to establish
- 9:37yourself as an authority, especially since we're talking
- 9:41about something very like, this is a serious thing.
- 9:43It's a very, very serious thing. It's not as if we're trying to
- 9:46do relationship coach. Yeah.
- 9:47If you're trying to do relationship coach, you know, by
- 9:49the time you talk about boyfriend, girlfriend issues for
- 9:51five months, Yeah, I guess people who take you seriously
- 9:53there, She's a relationship coach, but that was boyfriend,
- 9:56girlfriend. This is different.
- 10:00This is mental health. This is health and safety.
- 10:05This is physical health. You know everything.
- 10:08Health, health, health, health is a medical something.
- 10:12I don't think 5 months is enough to build.
- 10:16Excuse me, Your reputation as an authority in that space.
- 10:23And Franklin, let's be frank, you've not been posting every
- 10:26day. Let's just be frank.
- 10:28But even if you are posting every day for seven days a week
- 10:33for five months, I doubt that is enough to establish yourself as
- 10:37an authority so that when you now roll out your course or when
- 10:40you now roll out your program, people will start rushing you to
- 10:42buy. So that was one problem for
- 10:49those of you who experienced something similar to Franklin,
- 10:54you know, you've been posting, it's been 5 months.
- 10:56You're only at your first course.
- 10:58I'm trying to troubleshoot now to show you some of the
- 11:00problems, why the business is not taking off.
- 11:03Then matters of credibility. Credibility just means, how did
- 11:11I put it? Now, credibility means you sound
- 11:14believable. Let's just leave it like that.
- 11:17Credibility. You sound believable.
- 11:19Now, matters of credibility. Yeah.
- 11:20Yeah. Are you credible?
- 11:21Yeah. Franklin, because you are
- 11:23dealing with these things. You have lived through it.
- 11:26You have suffered the consequences.
- 11:28Yes, you have some credibility because of your personal story,
- 11:32but your personal story is only one aspect of the equation.
- 11:37Are you credentialed in this space?
- 11:39Do you have the credentials? Do you have the formal
- 11:41certifications? Unfortunately, when we're
- 11:46dealing with medical issues and things like that, all these more
- 11:52stringent, like more stringency is required when dealing with
- 11:56all these medical issues, unfortunately.
- 11:59So if I want to do relationship coach, that one is different.
- 12:05Like who cares? OK, relationship coach, life
- 12:07coach, who cares? But the moment I want to say I'm
- 12:12a mental health professional or I'm a medical doctor, or I'm
- 12:17curing people from this ailment or that ailment, or I'm helping
- 12:22people with this psychological issue or that psychological
- 12:24issue, it is different. The authorities will look at
- 12:28things different and people who are seeing your content will
- 12:30look at things different. OK, So for those of for those
- 12:36people where they form relationship coach and no
- 12:39problem, don't have this issue or Franklin, unfortunately,
- 12:42whether you like it or not, you will have this issue.
- 12:46So your personal story gives you some credibility, but are you
- 12:51credentialed? I tried to hint at this with our
- 12:54earlier conversations. I didn't think you get the
- 12:56point. You got the point.
- 12:57So I'm saying it now, not because I'm trying to rag on
- 13:00you, but I want you to know, and also for the benefit of other
- 13:03people who are listening, you guess on kind spaces that your
- 13:09personal story is not enough. You would need something else.
- 13:15So frankly, just take that out. Then remember, we're talking
- 13:20about content marketing. Now, what is content marketing?
- 13:23Content marketing is when you do what Franklin did, which is
- 13:26you're putting out content all right, regularly over time, the
- 13:32content you're putting out is supposed to be stuff that people
- 13:35are interested in and that people will engage with.
- 13:38Hopefully from people engaging, a couple of people will reach
- 13:41out to you to have conversations.
- 13:43And then from those conversations you have one or
- 13:45two deals. Remember what I said in the
- 13:48beginning? Marketing.
- 13:50You suppose they shout, everybody should hear you.
- 13:53Then from that shouting one or two people will come forward.
- 13:57Then come conversation. Then from there close deals.
- 14:01This is how content marketing works.
- 14:04First you go shout. Mass market, you go blast.
- 14:09You understand full blasts, not half hearted blasts.
- 14:14Those of you people who write one blog post in January, maybe
- 14:18you make one video again third week in January, then February
- 14:2414th you drop one video, then maybe March like you are not
- 14:28serious, you have not started. I repeat, you put out two pieces
- 14:34of content in January, one piece of content in in in February,
- 14:38maybe maybe March. You pick up you now post like
- 14:4312. You have not started attention,
- 14:51attention grant I don't talks about the attention economy.
- 14:55Well, at least he used to. I can't remember who else.
- 14:59Gary Vee, I think also you should talk about the attention
- 15:01economy. Attention algorithms are busy.
- 15:05Things are happening all the time.
- 15:08If you're doing half, half, nobody is even hearing you
- 15:12remember ADA, attention, interest, desire, action.
- 15:16So the companies that were there big in Nigeria back in those
- 15:19days, late 70s, early 80's, the fast moving consumer goods
- 15:23companies, you know, Johnson's and Johnson's, what else?
- 15:27NBC, you know all these companies, what were they doing?
- 15:31Advertising, Steady, steady, steady.
- 15:34Remember now is this Secrets of the Rose are the secrets of the
- 15:37sand and all those programs that used to show those days they
- 15:40used to. It's not like the advertiser on
- 15:42one day. They don't advertise for the
- 15:44rest of the week. Monday bam advertised Tuesday,
- 15:47Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday advertised.
- 15:51Steady attention shout. Some of you are doing things
- 15:58half hearted. That's the problem.
- 16:02Today you post, tomorrow the bodies week, next tomorrow I
- 16:08didn't feel like the spirit didn't move me.
- 16:10Like you are not serious now being dramatic when I say shout.
- 16:16That's the attitude. So your content marketing cannot
- 16:22be anyhow. Anyhow, as the spirit leads,
- 16:25today I do something, tomorrow I don't do something.
- 16:27No consistent. Pick a cadence that is OK for
- 16:30you. If you can do every day and they
- 16:34move now. If you can do once a week, OK,
- 16:36no problem. But see, honestly speaking, the
- 16:40problem with that once a week is anyway, let me just stop.
- 16:45But you know what? Once a week is a bad idea.
- 16:48None of you should say once a week.
- 16:49It's a bad idea. People's algorithms are busy.
- 16:52You're posting only once a week. Nobody's going to be able to see
- 16:54you. You're competing with a lot of
- 16:56things going on out there for attention.
- 16:58All right, once a week is not a good idea.
- 17:01But I will say you must do every day.
- 17:03But once a week you have not started.
- 17:05I repeat, once a week you've not started.
- 17:08It depends on your space. If you're in highly professional
- 17:10industries, like for instance, I was talking to a cardiologist.
- 17:14I was speaking with a cardiologist, this was last year
- 17:17at an event, and we're talking about AI, artificial
- 17:20intelligence as it relates to medicine and then things like
- 17:23that. OK, fine.
- 17:24No problem. You're in that kind of space.
- 17:26You're only posting once a week. It's different if you write 1
- 17:30Seminole piece, 1 Seminole post every single week.
- 17:33Your profession, your fellow professionals read it.
- 17:35You know, the that kind of thing.
- 17:36Yes, OK, maybe, maybe they can work.
- 17:41But you're a health and you're a recovery coach.
- 17:42You only want to be posting once a week.
- 17:45Or you say you're a relationship coach, you only want to be
- 17:47posting once a week. You're a marriage coach, you
- 17:50only want to be posting once a week.
- 17:51You are not serious. Once a week means you've only
- 17:55posted in a month. It only means you posted four
- 17:57times in 30 days. It means you only posted four
- 18:00times. Remember what I said, ADA
- 18:02attention, interest, desire, action.
- 18:04I say you suppose shout attention.
- 18:07How will you garner attention with just four posts in a month?
- 18:11How? It's not possible.
- 18:16OK, let's say recovery. Let's say I'm somebody with at
- 18:19this at the sniffer cocaine, by the way, I don't, but let's say
- 18:22I did sniff. So I sniff, I get high when I
- 18:26crash and I come down, I open my phone, I go to YouTube.
- 18:30You know how they watch him? You know, things like that.
- 18:32Maybe you're something comes up one time, you know, and I just
- 18:35wipe and that you know, country and I just they watch him like
- 18:38you won't reach me. You need to be coming up on my
- 18:42timeline today on my timeline, tomorrow on my timeline next
- 18:45tomorrow on my timeline. Eventually one day I'll say Kai,
- 18:49Maybe he's God reaching out to me.
- 18:51Let me buzz this Franklin guy self.
- 18:52Let me see what he can do for me.
- 18:54I'm tired. So all of you people who want to
- 19:01be coaches, life coach, relationship coach, marriage
- 19:03coach, this coach, that coach, hope you guys are catching what
- 19:07I'm putting down a Ida attention, interest design
- 19:11action. The first one is attention.
- 19:12Attention means you suppose shout then consistent.
- 19:15Back in the TV days, those people who are consistent, you
- 19:18see the advert every day. For those of us who were
- 19:20children when Indo me rolled out, remember, Yeah, was again
- 19:25something I think first was Honeywell.
- 19:28Honeywell noodles, you know, consistent on to all of us.
- 19:33Everybody shouting Honeywell noodles, give me Honeywell
- 19:35noodles. Then Indo me wanted to enter the
- 19:38market. What did Indo me do?
- 19:40Indo me Indo me Indo me noodles steady, consistent and
- 19:46advertising. Then next to mommy, mommy give
- 19:48me Indo me, give me indo today. Indo me is a household name.
- 19:51It's not from showing up once. It's from showing up steady,
- 19:53steady not giving up every day. Indo me Indo me We don't hear a
- 19:58word until the thing came into a see if you don't believe me,
- 20:02right. Let's say you're a 20 something
- 20:03year old person. You know, whatever you're
- 20:05chilling up with your older siblings, you know, 30-40,
- 20:08fifty, just try it on the just saying Indo me, Indo me.
- 20:12Look around at their faces. See everybody with a smile, say,
- 20:14where did you hear that? They will finish the song for
- 20:17you. Attention of five months.
- 20:24It's not enough. So back in the day it was OK.
- 20:29One commercial on TV showing once a day.
- 20:33Sorry, showing twice a day on the programs, you know, for
- 20:37seven days a week. Yeah, that was OK Nowadays, I'm
- 20:39sorry. You need a whole lot more, eat a
- 20:42whole lot more. Some of you start talking about
- 20:44quality versus quantity. I don't want to hear you.
- 20:46Quality versus quantity, people. You're just making up excuses.
- 20:50You can do plenty and it can be high quality.
- 20:53It's not the production value. It's the thought process that
- 20:55goes on behind it. That's the reason why I'm here
- 20:57multiple times a week. There's nobody that will tell me
- 21:00that what I'm putting out here is not called.
- 21:01It's not quality. Nobody.
- 21:05The only complaint I've had is that guy.
- 21:07You probably feel cool. It's hard to keep up.
- 21:09That's the only company that I've heard, but nobody has told
- 21:11me that guy or more. No quality and it's been 20
- 21:14minutes, so let's move now. If you're going to have a
- 21:20successful content marketing campaign, number one, content
- 21:22calendar. And I tell all of you, for some
- 21:24reason people don't listen, then they run into trouble.
- 21:27You can't start without the content calendar.
- 21:29I've done over 1500 episodes. The reason why that is possible
- 21:33is because I have a content calendar.
- 21:34I have a content strategy. This is who I'm talking to.
- 21:37This is what I'll talk about. These are the issues.
- 21:39These are the questions that I'm going to answer every single
- 21:41day. So even if none of you ever send
- 21:44me a question again in my Evernote, my old contact, sorry,
- 21:50my old content calendar that I didn't finish, I still have 800
- 21:53questions there unaddressed. So assuming none of you ever
- 21:57reach out again and send me a question, guess what?
- 21:59I can still run for 800 episodes.
- 22:03The content calendar gives you the security that you need to
- 22:06continue. You never have to wake up and
- 22:08say, what should I post about today?
- 22:10What should I write about today? What should I talk about today?
- 22:13You won't have that question because you've already thought
- 22:15it out ahead of time. So Franklin, I told you, and I
- 22:18hope you took my advice and I tell everybody else at least one
- 22:22year, which are GPT and all these tools.
- 22:24It's easy to come up with content calendar for one year.
- 22:27If you don't like AI tools and you don't think you're that
- 22:29smart, no problem. The questions that people ask
- 22:31you around your area of specialty, start writing those
- 22:33things down. That's your content calendar.
- 22:35So Franklin, people have been asking you questions like ha,
- 22:37ha, how did you come off drug addiction?
- 22:41You know, so that's a question. How did I come off drug
- 22:43addiction? If somebody else comes here and
- 22:45say, oh, doctor is treating me for drug addiction, They're
- 22:47giving me morphine. Excuse me?
- 22:50I'm not a medical doctor by the way.
- 22:51So I'm just making stuff up. They're giving me hydrochloric
- 22:54something, something, something as an alternative to cocaine,
- 22:58you know, does that work? That's it.
- 22:59That's another podcast episode. If you're coming off of cocaine,
- 23:04you know, what are the alternatives to use?
- 23:05Any question that people are asking you just be putting it
- 23:07down there. Question, put it, put it, put
- 23:09it. And guess what?
- 23:10You never run out of questions, do people?
- 23:12People keep asking me questions every week.
- 23:16Somebody will say, oh boy, you're creative.
- 23:18I'm not creative. All I'm doing is answering
- 23:19questions until the day people stop asking me questions.
- 23:23And of course that's not going to happen because people will
- 23:25always have business challenges. I'll never run out of a topic.
- 23:28So content calendar, Use AI. Come up with a year's worth of
- 23:31content. You don't like AI?
- 23:33No problem. Sit down and do some creative
- 23:35thinking. You're not creative?
- 23:36OK, No problem. Just answer questions that
- 23:39people ask you. Bam, finish cotton, calendar
- 23:45sorted. Deal with questions that people
- 23:49ask, issues that people want to know around your space.
- 23:54So Franklin, if you didn't take my advice, then take it now.
- 23:57At least one year's worth of content.
- 23:59The whole idea is I need some security.
- 24:04I should never be in a situation where I'm stranded.
- 24:06I don't know what I'm going to post today.
- 24:07I should never be in that situation.
- 24:09Then let's have an honest conversation about the time
- 24:11required to build authority. For those of you who are
- 24:13aspiring coaches, remember talking about talking to a
- 24:18someone who wanted to be a feminist lifestyle coach.
- 24:23Now marriage coach this coach that coach.
- 24:28Look, it takes a long time to build authority.
- 24:31Content marketing is a long term game.
- 24:33Long term in business means three to five years and above.
- 24:37So in other words, don't expect this thing to pop off, pop off
- 24:43in less than three years. Don't.
- 24:45It takes a long time to, to, to to build authority.
- 24:50It takes a while before people start saying, oh, oh, yeah,
- 24:53that's Franklin. He's a drug recovery guy.
- 24:55Oh, oh, yeah, Establish him a he's the business guy.
- 24:58Oh, oh, yeah, that is that's Eva Sinachi.
- 25:02You know, she's the Prime Minister, coach, lifestyle
- 25:04coach. Takes a while.
- 25:08Stop expecting things to pop off in less than one year.
- 25:11There are some people who pop off in less than one year.
- 25:13That is the anomaly. That is not how things normally
- 25:17happen. But even if you don't agree with
- 25:19me that it's the anomaly, I think I happen.
- 25:21OK, no problem. Go and ask them.
- 25:22How do you do it? By the way, I don't believe all
- 25:27those people who claim that they do it in less than a year
- 25:30because by the time you look at their story, you'll see that.
- 25:32Oh, OK, OK, OK, let me give you an example.
- 25:35Remember, I used to be in the event space photography.
- 25:37There was this photographer who used to talk about how he became
- 25:43a a, what's it called? Like a premium, not premium.
- 25:46I can't remember. He became like a celebrity
- 25:49photographer in less than one year.
- 25:51And his story seemed OK. It seemed OK until I heard him
- 25:56on the podcast and then he talked, started talking about
- 25:58how he was a photography teacher and he taught, he was an art
- 26:04teacher who taught photography in a certain school.
- 26:07Then he put together a photography club.
- 26:10Then one of the students said, Sir, we can be making some small
- 26:15coins from this thing. And I said, really say yes.
- 26:18Spoke to their parents. The parents said was OK, no
- 26:20problem. They all started in business
- 26:22together as a photography club. Then they ran weddings for was
- 26:27it five years or something like that and became very, very
- 26:29profitable. Then he thought he wanted to
- 26:32move into a premium market and then he launched that on his own
- 26:35and then he did it in one year. Well, can you see that before he
- 26:38did it in one year, he had been running the business with his
- 26:43students for five years prior. And then of course, nahim be
- 26:47lecturer. So he's exceptionally skilled.
- 26:49Can you see that There's a foundation.
- 26:51That's the reason why I say all these people who keep saying,
- 26:53you know, in one year, in one year, in one year, go and read
- 26:57their story small. You will see the truth.
- 27:00The truth is it took him seven years to become a celebrity
- 27:05photographer. That is the truth.
- 27:09So. But anyway, if you believe all
- 27:10these people, I did one. Yeah, I did one, yeah.
- 27:12No problem. Go and ask them.
- 27:15Now. Remember, awareness, attention,
- 27:22all these things. For someone who is in the
- 27:26situation of Franklin, you should be focused on educational
- 27:29content, should be talking about the science of addiction, should
- 27:32be talking about, I don't even know self, sorry, I didn't do
- 27:37enough research before I started this, but you should be talking
- 27:39about all these kinds of things to build brand authority.
- 27:46That's just to get people, people to know that, you know, I
- 27:48am here, I exist, this is what I do.
- 27:50Then there's some kind of content that you should create
- 27:54that help people. So excuse me, to help people
- 27:59consider, OK, what kind of action am I going to take in
- 28:03recovery? You know, is this something I
- 28:05can do on my own? Do I have to be an inpatient,
- 28:07you know, in going to a medical institution to solve myself?
- 28:10How do I have to be an outpatient?
- 28:11You know, all those kind of content.
- 28:14Then there's a bottom of the funnel content that's remember
- 28:18Aida, attention, interest, desire, action.
- 28:20So for people who have at the desire stage or action stage,
- 28:25you know, you'll also be putting out videos, you know, evidence
- 28:28based videos, you know all that this is how many people succeed
- 28:31on this kind of remedy, how many people succeed on this kind of
- 28:34remedy, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 28:35You know, things like that. By the way, you don't make any
- 28:37promises when it comes to medicine.
- 28:38You don't make any promises or you don't say anybody that takes
- 28:42this medicine will be cured. You don't you don't say that if
- 28:45you watch carefully when malaria has been malaria medicines are
- 28:48being advertised on TV. They say treat treats most cases
- 28:51of malaria, you know, fast treats most cases of malaria
- 28:55did. If you look at the bottom of the
- 28:57screen, you see hysterics, hysterics.
- 28:59There is where they put the disclaimer.
- 29:00They don't say they treat all, they say cures most.
- 29:05When it comes to medicine, you can't be making any kind of
- 29:07claims. That's 100% of people like cure
- 29:09them. So don't make any kind of claims
- 29:11like that. Then you also need to create
- 29:15have idea for content ideas for content that are after the
- 29:20funnel. People have done business with
- 29:21you. You want them to keep coming
- 29:22back again and again. So you go have maybe like weekly
- 29:25newsletters that you send out to your former customers or maybe
- 29:28have like a WhatsApp community, Telegram community, or maybe you
- 29:32go to do monthly webinars and calls.
- 29:34But you know, this is after people have become your client.
- 29:36They're just to maintain relationship, you know, things
- 29:38like that, so that you get word of mouth, you know, people come
- 29:42back again because sometimes relapse.
- 29:44So you want to make sure they don't any, God forbid somebody
- 29:47should relapse because these are serious matters.
- 29:48But you want people to still, you know, have your WhatsApp
- 29:51number in case anything happens where you can see that, look,
- 29:58this is serious stuff. Sorry, frankly, now I'm sounding
- 30:03harsh. I'm just also trying to
- 30:05Telegraph so that other people in your back who are hearing who
- 30:09are in a similar situation, I just want them to clock it.
- 30:13So unfortunately, it's not that simple as posting for five
- 30:15months and then this thing didn't take action.
- 30:19But Please remember, avoid guarantees.
- 30:21Don't say 100% success. Don't say I'm curing somebody.
- 30:24Don't. No, no, no, 'cause they're legal
- 30:26issues involved and ethical issues involved.
- 30:29You know, I'm a former lawyer with now, I'm now a business
- 30:31consultant. But in this kind of thing, never
- 30:34say, you know, 100% success, never say that.
- 30:37And then there are some associations that you can look
- 30:39to. One of them is an Oibo
- 30:40association, that's the NAATP, the National Association of
- 30:45Addiction Treatment Providers. So go and check the website,
- 30:48check their code of ethics, you know, things that are go and
- 30:50learn. All right, then try and see if
- 30:52you can find equivalent bodies for Nigeria because remember,
- 30:58frankly, your experience is not your experience is is not
- 31:04enough. There's a lot more then for the
- 31:07advertising campaign that you ran.
- 31:09We have to consider a few things.
- 31:10The more on the targeting, was it right?
- 31:13Sometimes the advertising campaign fails because we didn't
- 31:17target the right people. If you send a the right advert,
- 31:22correct advertising, but you send it to the wrong people, you
- 31:24will flop, you will fail. So back to those people, Indo
- 31:29me, Indo me, Indo me noodles. They were targeting us children.
- 31:35You put it on shows that we children watched.
- 31:38So if you do Indo me Indo me Indo me noodles, but you now go
- 31:43and put it on CNN or you now go and put it on NTA news.
- 31:47You will flop. Beautiful advertising campaign.
- 31:50But the children are not hearing it.
- 31:51The children need to hear it and they need to sing it.
- 31:54Then they'll say mommy, mommy buy me Indo me.
- 31:56So targeting in Facebook, did you give Facebook correct
- 32:02instructions that Facebook only showed is my advert to this kind
- 32:04of people, this kind of people, this kind of people.
- 32:06If the advert reached the wrong people, there's no way you end
- 32:09up, you end up making money from this.
- 32:12Then reach. Reach just means how much money
- 32:14did you spend? The amount of money that you
- 32:16spent is how far the gospel is going to go.
- 32:19So if you drop 1 billion, your message will go far.
- 32:24But if you want to do advertising campaign but you
- 32:26only drop 5K, where will 5K carry you?
- 32:29Where? So targeting is our targeting
- 32:32correct? Then reach how much money did
- 32:34you drop? How much bad did you drop?
- 32:36You want this thing to spread far, you need to drop serious
- 32:39money. You understand?
- 32:41You want this campaign to go out all over Niger.
- 32:44You need serious money. Don't want to be running 5K
- 32:48campaign, 10K campaign, 15K campaign.
- 32:50I think that you're doing work then the copy the amount, the
- 32:54kinds of words that you used. So did you use the right kind of
- 32:58words? Unfortunately I did.
- 33:00I didn't think so because your language was buy now, buy now,
- 33:03you know, that kind of thing, buy now, sports limited, things
- 33:06like that, slots limited, you know, take advantage of this
- 33:09now. So that is direct response kind
- 33:13of marketing. Unfortunately, direct response
- 33:15is not reasonable given your circumstances.
- 33:18You need a different strategy. What you should have done was
- 33:21this. You should have run the
- 33:22advertisement, but run the advertisement to a landing page.
- 33:28From the landing page, people will read small.
- 33:30Maybe you now promise them a free WhatsApp call to talk about
- 33:33their journey in recovery. When people are now chatting
- 33:36with you in WhatsApp or talking with you from WhatsApp calls,
- 33:39you will now have a chance to now convert people to say, yeah,
- 33:43my brother, sorry. Oh, you know what?
- 33:45These are the kind of things I actually can do.
- 33:46Oh, my sister. Yeah.
- 33:47Well, ladies are the things I kind of do.
- 33:49Then you now talk money and then say how many deals you close.
- 33:52So for you, you should have run the ad.
- 33:54The ad should have taken people to a landing page.
- 33:56From the landing page, you try and talk to one or two people.
- 33:59And remember, sales is always about talking to people.
- 34:02Always, always about talking to people.
- 34:03If you didn't talk to anybody, you're not the salesperson.
- 34:06You are an order taker. Order taking is also OK.
- 34:08It's not bad, just don't confuse yourself.
- 34:10If you're an order taker, don't conceive confuse yourself.
- 34:13You're a salesperson. That's how somebody who said
- 34:15that they've been in sales, you say, OK, what's your sales
- 34:17experience? You say I'm working at the
- 34:18Anjobi. That is not sales, it is order
- 34:20taking. The building is there, the
- 34:22signboard is there, the graphics are there, People who are hungry
- 34:25come and walk in. You are not doing sales, you are
- 34:27just taking orders. As you know, I'm sitting on
- 34:31interviews for my clients who want to hire sales staff.
- 34:36You now say you have sales experience.
- 34:37Sales experience how you say? Yes, because I worked in Mr.
- 34:44What's the Nigerian 1 Mr. Biggs? Yeah, I was about to say
- 34:47McDonald's. You know I worked in Mr. Biggs,
- 34:51you are not in sales. You are an auto taker because
- 34:54Mr. Biggs is there, the signboard is there, the
- 34:57hamburger is there, the rice and the chicken is there.
- 34:59The picture of the big cook is there.
- 35:01Somebody's driving by the see the sign, the entire side.
- 35:04They walk up to the counter. You only just to smile, in fact
- 35:07in Nigeria, so they won't smile at you again because they are
- 35:10frustrated. You only just to stay there and
- 35:11say yes, how many chicken, how many pomo, how many egg, how
- 35:16many Fanta? You are an order taker.
- 35:20So order taker is not bad, right?
- 35:23But if you didn't talk to anybody, don't say you're doing
- 35:25sales. So Franklin and other people
- 35:30like Franklin, relationship coach, feminist lifestyle coach,
- 35:34run the ad. The ad should land people on to
- 35:37take people to a landing page. They click on the ad, the end on
- 35:39the landing page. Are you tired of patriarchy?
- 35:42Do you want to live your fullest life?
- 35:44Something something, this is my story, blah blah blah.
- 35:46This is my whatever. If you want to have a call, if
- 35:49you want to have a free 5 minute call with me about how feminism
- 35:54is destroying your chances for career, click here, ma'am.
- 35:56They click, they enter into your WhatsApp, you start talking from
- 35:59talking to people. Oh, patriarchy.
- 36:01Oh patriarchy. Nasui do me.
- 36:03Nasui do me. It's from there that you will
- 36:05now say, you know what, just wire ME150K to be a part of my
- 36:09coaching program. You know, we will.
- 36:11Something, something, something, blah, blah, blah.
- 36:13That's how it works. Now, there are some people who
- 36:16have the brand equity to be able to run an ad without the whole
- 36:20landing page thing. Some people have that brand
- 36:22equity, like excuse me, like Uncle Tony.
- 36:25Now, for instance, Tony Lumelu, you know, he's one of Nigeria's
- 36:28billionaires because he owns stakes in some of the generating
- 36:32companies, you know, people who generate the companies that
- 36:35generate power, that we need power.
- 36:37You know, as per Napa, they generate electricity.
- 36:40Then you know, he started off in banking and he currently is the
- 36:44chairman of hairs holding. I think he had the own Transco
- 36:49built in, the own hairs insurance and a bunch of other
- 36:52stuff. So Tony Illumelu, certified big
- 36:54boy. If Tony Illumelu today, all
- 36:59right, he won't do this because it's beneath him.
- 37:01But if today in 2026, he runs an advertisement on Facebook saying
- 37:07I'm doing a dinner, if he doesn't even have to do
- 37:10advertisements, all he has to do just create the post, post last
- 37:14song, that's all single post on his profile.
- 37:19Just say hey is your boy Tony Lumelu having a dinner with?
- 37:24We have a limited slots only just 30 people So if you want to
- 37:27hang out with me 600,000 naira blah blah blah click the link
- 37:32below. Oh by the way Dango 2 will be
- 37:34passing through. Oh I'm telling you one day it
- 37:36will sell out because we were like only 600K to spend time
- 37:42with Tony Lumelu. Me and him will be on the same
- 37:44table and he said Dango T is even passing through is only 600
- 37:47K people will drop it. He said 30 slots like that one
- 37:50day, 18,000,000. Tony Aluma, you can pull that
- 37:53off because he has the brand equity.
- 37:58You don't have to advertise. I'm telling you, all he has to
- 38:00do is just put it on his page. We'll be having dinner at the
- 38:04Hilton. In fact, to make it even through
- 38:08TV says we'll be having dinner at my house.
- 38:11OK, no, if it's not about my house, that 600K won't make
- 38:14sense. Maybe we'll be like 2M or so
- 38:17because now it's his house. So it has to be some premium
- 38:19people, maybe 5 himself. And you know what?
- 38:24I'm speculating at this point, so let me just stop.
- 38:26But I'm saying that yes, someone like Tony Alumudu, yeah, he can.
- 38:29He can pull that off 30 slots only by now we're here.
- 38:33None is different. So direct response doesn't work
- 38:36in all, doesn't work in all circumstances.
- 38:39So dear life coaches and other people remember ad campaign from
- 38:44ad campaign to landing page that people see you small from
- 38:47landing page, try and get people to your WhatsApp or get people
- 38:51in your e-mail inbox or something.
- 38:54So it's from that emailing, from that whatsapping from that phone
- 38:56calling. Hopefully you'll be able to
- 38:58close a couple of deals. So sorry, Mr. Franklin, that I
- 39:02went on for 40 minutes. But the problem is you didn't
- 39:08give this thing enough time. My brother, it's only been five
- 39:10months. If we stretch it, it's only been
- 39:13five months. Realistically, it's been four
- 39:15months, you know, and a few days.
- 39:19You try to milk your audience prematurely.
- 39:21But don't feel bad. Everybody makes that mistake.
- 39:23Me too, I try to make, I made that mistake too.
- 39:26My first campaign, my first thing, zero, no orders, no
- 39:30orders at all. None.
- 39:33Nobody interested. So it's normal.
- 39:38So this campaign was premature. Now, frankly, if you remember
- 39:44the conversation that we had before and that's the reason why
- 39:48I was, I was working for you. Yeah, I told you, what's the
- 39:51plan for the money? You said, don't worry, I will,
- 39:53I'll take care of that. Let me repeat it again for the
- 39:58benefit of other people who are listening, because content
- 40:00marketing strategies take a long time, remember three to five
- 40:03years. I will always ask you the
- 40:06question, what is the plan for the money today?
- 40:10Because while you're content marketing for three to five
- 40:12years, how you be paying school fees now?
- 40:16How you be eating food now, how you pay DSTV now, how will you
- 40:21pay a fuel now? By the way, this is the reason
- 40:24why for those of you who are still in uni, that's the reason
- 40:27why I say now is the time. So if you are in uni here too,
- 40:30you're going to do content marketing, content marketing, no
- 40:32problem. Your father will be happy with
- 40:34you. Your mother will say ah, that's
- 40:35my son, that's my daughter. They will support you over the
- 40:38three years when you are making content.
- 40:39By the time you don't graduate, you know, you don't build, you
- 40:41know your reputation on they grow.
- 40:43You understand reason that you now start trying to monetize
- 40:47some stuff. So those of you in school, now
- 40:51is the time you are at university 100 level.
- 40:55Now is the time begin content marketing.
- 40:59It'll work perfect for you because now there's no pressure
- 41:02transport money pops. You will give you food money
- 41:08moms, you will sort you when times are off.
- 41:11You know how you know student life now we'll cope.
- 41:14Somehow, somehow, somebody will have Gary, somebody who have
- 41:16beans. You know we're off it.
- 41:18Now is the time. But for those of you who are
- 41:21aspiring content creators, stop avoiding this question.
- 41:26What are we going to do for immediate cash now, Sustenance
- 41:30money now. Sustenance money today,
- 41:33transport money today food money today, next month while you are
- 41:37trying to remember ADA attention, interest design
- 41:40action while you're trying to work on attention, while you're
- 41:44trying to build authority, while you're trying to build
- 41:47reputation, while you're trying to build audience.
- 41:48What will I do for money today is the money part that is going
- 41:51to frustrate you for most people.
- 41:54You go ahead, you start, you don't pay attention to this
- 41:56thing. Then your wife starts to
- 41:58complain. You resign and then you go and
- 41:59get a job. You now say business was hard.
- 42:02No, no, no, it's not that business was hard, man.
- 42:04You picked a model that didn't work for your circumstances.
- 42:07You picked the wrong model. That's the reason why I tell a
- 42:10whole lot of you who say I one star podcast.
- 42:11That's the reason why I say don't.
- 42:14Your primary concern now is money.
- 42:16Sell something. Don't do content marketing.
- 42:23A lot of you want to do content marketing because it sounds
- 42:25cool, because it sounds sexy. You like seeing yourself on
- 42:27video, You like hearing yourself on the podcast.
- 42:30Yes, it's sexy, but doesn't pay the bills in the short term.
- 42:36A lot of you should not be doing content marketing, content
- 42:41creation and you know, blah, blah, blah.
- 42:43Not trying to kill your dreams. I'm just saying that let's be
- 42:44real here. So if you have a supportive
- 42:47spouse, call your wife and say, my dear, and have that
- 42:50conversation. You have a supportive spouse.
- 42:52Call your husband and say, my dear, have that conversation.
- 42:54You live at home with your parents.
- 42:56I beg double down now. You don't have to discuss with
- 42:59your parents. Just be doing it, Mumsy.
- 43:02Go to see your timeline and everything you know she'll like.
- 43:05That is my boy's thinking this my girl, she's you know, she's
- 43:08thinking she doesn't want to be a housewife like me.
- 43:11They will support you. You don't even have to discuss
- 43:13it with them. Just start.
- 43:16The only thing you do is you assure your parents that you
- 43:18still pass your exams. Please try and graduate 21 if
- 43:21you can graduate first class if you can, if you can give first
- 43:25class, then just do 21 is important.
- 43:26But we'll talk about that in another podcast episode.
- 43:29Then Mr. Franklin and therefore other people who are in Franklin
- 43:32situation, get some training, get some certifications.
- 43:36Your life story is not enough. Get some certifications, get
- 43:40some training for those of you who are making health and safety
- 43:43claims, you are, You're a mental health coach.
- 43:46You're a psychological whatever, whatever coach, this is not
- 43:50marriage and relationship. It was marriage and
- 43:52relationship. You know, who cares if you coach
- 43:54somebody, marriage, whatever, that marriage falls apart.
- 43:58You know, police won't harass you.
- 44:00But if you say you're doing recovery, coach, you are meeting
- 44:03somebody, you are meeting somebody, then tomorrow they
- 44:05found out that the person took his own life.
- 44:07You don't think police will call you a suspect?
- 44:11It is not even for the protection of other people.
- 44:13This is for your own protection. When we say that if you're
- 44:16making health and safety claims, you go and get training, you go
- 44:19and get certification, it's not even to protect other people.
- 44:24It's to protect you so that you won't do something that will
- 44:28cause the death or cause the harm of another person, or that
- 44:32even if death or harm occurs while you're doing your job.
- 44:36So it's unfortunate, but this is just life.
- 44:38You know, I'm a business development consultant.
- 44:41If I mess up, what's that happen is my client loses money, but
- 44:44nobody dies if I mess up. Unfortunately, Mr. Franklin, you
- 44:48mess up, somebody dies. So this is serious.
- 44:53I'm not trying to scare you. And remember, it's for your own
- 44:56protection. So that's my summary.
- 44:58Give this thing more time. You better look for something
- 45:01that brings cash today. In the meantime, work on your
- 45:05training, work on your certifications.
- 45:08The next time you run an advert advertisement, make sure that
- 45:11your targeting is correct. You're getting it to the right
- 45:13people. Make sure that the thing has
- 45:15reached. If it's going to the right
- 45:18people, but only five people are seeing it every day, what are
- 45:22the chances, what are the chances that we're going to
- 45:25close some deals on an advertising campaign?
- 45:26Only five people are seeing it every day.
- 45:28So five people seeing it every day. 5 * 7 that is 135.
- 45:33Only 35 people are seeing it a week.
- 45:35Then let's see 35 times for Abby 303030 that's 120 plus.
- 45:44So only 140 people are seeing it a month.
- 45:46If you have an advertising campaign and only 140 people saw
- 45:49it last month, especially since you're a newbie in the space
- 45:51less than five months, don't be surprised that 100 and people 40
- 45:56people saw it and nobody clicked.
- 45:58Don't be surprised. AID, attention, interest,
- 46:01desire, and then action. There's not enough attention.
- 46:06The people that everyone saw it like this is a credible guy.
- 46:09This Franklin himself, who is he?
- 46:11OK, just looks like an ordinary fellow.
- 46:12OK. And then the walk past.
- 46:14All right, so these might have been some of the issues.
- 46:18And then let me just bring it to a close now.
- 46:20It's been over 46 minutes. So yeah, if you'd love to
- 46:24connect with me, just like Franklin did, call, send me a
- 46:26text message or a WhatsApp message on 08064662140.
- 46:32If you're interested in the 15 minute sale audit, you want me
- 46:34to look at any of your business processes, the number is the
- 46:37same 08064662140. Or if you're shy, you don't like
- 46:43talking to strangers, that's not a problem.
- 46:44Just send me a message and you can be on my WhatsApp channel
- 46:48for updates. So that's it.
- 46:50Thank you very much for your time and attention and I'll
- 46:52catch you all some other time.