Latest / The Marketing Funnel Podcast with Fexingo: Awareness, Interest, Decision, and Action Stages / How Community-Led Growth Reshapes the Marketing Funnel
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- Lucas: Luna, I want to talk about a phrase that's been buzzing in marketing circles the last couple of years — community-led growth. And specifically, how it's quietly upending the classic AIDA funnel we talk about on this show. Luna: I've seen the term pop up a lot in SaaS. But I think a lot of marketers still see community as a retention play, not an acquisition one. Lucas: Right. And that's the shift. The traditional funnel runs awareness at the top — paid ads, PR, content marketing. But community-led growth flips it. The community itself becomes the awareness engine. People discover the product because someone in their professional network invites them to a Slack group, or they see a template shared on Twitter. Luna: So it's almost like word of mouth at scale. But structured. Lucas: Exactly. And the canonical case study right now is Figma. Figma's community of designers — they have over 4 million users in their community forums and template galleries — acts as both a top of funnel acquisition channel and a retention moat. When a designer shares a Figma file, anyone who opens it is instantly in the product. No sign-up required at first. Luna: That's the genius part. The product itself is the invitation. They lower the friction to zero. Lucas: And that changes the interest and decision stages. In a traditional funnel, you'd run a retargeting ad or an email sequence to move someone from awareness to consideration. With community-led growth, the consideration happens inside the community — you see how peers use the tool, you ask questions, you get templates. By the time you hit the decision stage, you're already a power user. Luna: So the community essentially pre-sells the product. I've heard Figma's conversion rate from free to paid is something like three times the industry average for SaaS. Lucas: I've seen that number too. And it makes sense. When you've invested time learning the tool, contributed to a community discussion, maybe even shared your own template — switching to a competitor feels like leaving a social network. The community creates switching costs that are emotional, not just technical. Luna: But is this replicable for every product? I mean, Figma's product is inherently collaborative. What if you're selling something more transactional, like a CRM or an analytics tool? Lucas: It's harder, but not impossible. Look at Notion. Notion's not inherently a social product — it's a notes and database tool. But they built a community around templates, use cases, and user groups. They have a dedicated Notion Community site with thousands of templates, a Champions program for superusers, and local meetups in dozens of cities. Luna: I've used Notion templates shared by strangers. That's how I first heard about the tool, actually. A friend sent me a project management template. Lucas: That's the community-led growth loop. Someone shares a template. You open it, you create an account to edit it. You start using it. You eventually hit the limit on the free plan and upgrade. The entire journey from awareness to action happened without Notion spending a dollar on ads for you. Luna: So what does that mean for the marketing funnel model? Are we saying awareness is dead? Lucas: No, awareness isn't dead. But the source of awareness shifts from paid media to organic, peer-driven discovery. And that changes where you invest your marketing budget. In a community-led model, you spend less on demand generation and more on community management, content creation, and user advocacy programs. Luna: I've read that Figma spends about 40% less on customer acquisition than comparable SaaS companies. That's a huge efficiency gain. Lucas: It is. And it's not just Figma. Companies like Notion, Loom, and even earlier-stage startups like Coda have built their growth engines around community. The common thread is that the community provides social proof, reduces buyer risk, and accelerates time to value — all of which compress the funnel. Luna: Let's talk about the action stage specifically. In a traditional funnel, the action is a purchase. In community-led growth, the action might be joining a Slack group or sharing a template. How do you map that to the funnel? Lucas: I think you have to think of the funnel less as a linear path and more as a series of micro-commitments. The first action might be clicking a shared file. The second might be creating an account. The third might be asking a question in the community. Each micro-commitment builds trust and investment. The purchase becomes a later-stage action that feels inevitable, not a leap of faith. Luna: So the community is effectively moving people through the funnel in smaller, lower-risk steps. That explains why conversion rates are higher. Lucas: Exactly. And there's a network effect benefit too. The more people use the product, the more valuable the community becomes. That creates a flywheel that compounds over time. It's the opposite of paid acquisition, where every new customer costs roughly the same and there's no compounding. Luna: But there's a dark side, right? Communities can become toxic or create echo chambers. If the community turns negative, it can accelerate churn. Lucas: Absolutely. Community-led growth isn't set-and-forget. It requires active moderation, clear guidelines, and a genuine commitment to user success. If the community feels like a marketing channel rather than a genuine gathering, users will see through it. The best communities — like Figma's or Notion's — feel like the company is serving the community, not the other way around. Luna: So the marketer's role changes from broadcaster to gardener. You're not pushing messages out; you're cultivating an environment where users advocate for you. Lucas: That's a great framing. And it's a harder skill set to build than running Facebook ads. Community management requires empathy, responsiveness, and a long-term outlook. ROI is harder to measure in the short term. But when it works, the economics are transformative. Luna: I want to pivot slightly. We've been talking about this as a B2B SaaS play. But I'm seeing community-led growth pop up in consumer brands too. Think about Glossier or Peloton. Lucas: Great examples. Glossier built a community of 'Into The Gloss' readers before they even had a product. That community informed product development and became the first customer base. Peloton's community is legendary — the leaderboards, the Facebook groups, the in-person events. It's a retention machine disguised as a fitness company. Luna: And in both cases, the community creates content that serves as awareness for new users. A Peloton rider sharing their workout on Instagram is essentially an ad that Peloton didn't pay for. Lucas: Right. User-generated content is the fuel for the awareness stage. And because it comes from real users, it's more trusted than brand-created content. That's the community-led growth advantage in the decision stage — social proof from peers, not from a testimonial page. Luna: So if a marketer is listening and thinking about implementing this, where do they start? What's the first step? Lucas: Start by identifying where your most engaged users already gather. It might be a Reddit subreddit, a Twitter hashtag, or an existing Facebook group. Then create a space — a Slack or Discord community — that adds value beyond what those public channels provide. The key is to give before you ask. Offer exclusive content, early access, or direct access to your product team. Luna: And what about metrics? How do you measure community-led growth? Lucas: The north star metric should be something like 'community-influenced revenue' — revenue from users who interacted with the community before converting. But you can also look at community engagement rates, referral traffic from community channels, and net promoter score among community members. The important thing is not to over-optimize for short-term metrics at the expense of community health. Luna: It really does require a shift in mindset. Instead of 'how do we get more people in the door,' it's 'how do we make the people already here so happy they bring others.' Lucas: And that's the beautiful thing about community-led growth — it aligns the incentives of the company and the user. The user gets value from the community, and the company gets organic growth. It's a win-win that the traditional funnel, with its push-based logic, rarely achieves. Luna: You know, speaking of aligning incentives, that's exactly why we keep this podcast ad-free. We don't want the pressure to sell ad slots to shape what we talk about. If these marketing conversations have sparked something you've actually used in your work, that's the reward. Lucas: Yeah, the whole point is that the content itself should be valuable enough that listeners want to support it directly. And if you do, the link is buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. No pressure — just a way to keep this independent. Luna: Exactly. And it keeps us focused on what matters: drilling into real strategies like community-led growth. Lucas: So back to the funnel — one thing I want to leave listeners with is that community-led growth isn't a replacement for the marketing funnel. It's a reordering of it. The community sits at every stage, thickening the middle of the funnel and making the transition between stages more natural. Luna: And perhaps the most important insight: the best marketing might not look like marketing at all. It looks like someone helping someone else solve a problem. Lucas: Well said. That's the essence of community-led growth. And that's the funnel we should all be building toward.