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Recovery Is Not Restoration For Comfort · Bye Bye Panic

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[SPEAKER_00]: Recovery is not a restoration of comfort.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I wanted to make this podcast because I have seen so many people make this mistake.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's such a small thing, but it's so easy to overlook.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is that recovery is not about your symptoms going away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, this might trigger some people, this might confuse people, what do you mean anxiety recovery isn't about symptoms going away?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was the whole purpose of recovery.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The answer to that is yes and so let me give you some context here, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: When you're going through this journey, whenever you're feeling anxiety, whenever you're feeling panic attacks, you're getting those intrusive thoughts, those chronic symptoms, the deeper personalization, de-realization.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You go to your doctors, you go to your therapist, and fundamentally what they say is, hey, here's some pills, here's some fucked therapy, there's not much else we can do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just have to learn a look with this, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And for somebody who's going through anxiety, that's absolutely devastating because it's so uncomfortable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, when people find my content,
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[SPEAKER_00]: and they see the recovery stories and they see that there is a way out that there is such a thing as recovery people get really excited and they say, oh my god, yes, I don't have to live like this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And all of that is true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All of that about making your symptoms go away, all these things can happen for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, it's not that it can happen if you apply the right principles, it's basically inevitable, but here is the mistake and here is the most important thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Your symptoms going away is a by-product of recovery.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Chasing symptom relief still delays this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What does this mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exiety recovery is not about recovery from symptoms.
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[SPEAKER_00]: anxiety recovery is not about a restoration of comfort, which is what most people are chasing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're chasing that comfort.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just want to feel good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You want to escape the present moment because it's so uncomfortable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just want to feel okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I understand that, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did that three years, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even when I was on the healing journey, I would slip back into, I just wanted to feel better in the moment, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was a practice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I want to reframe recovery for you a little bit differently.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Recovery is not a restoration of comfort.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Recovery is a restoration of agency.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, recovery is the restoration of agency.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now what the heck does that even mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when most people think about anxiety, they usually think of some sort of unfavimable fear, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You needing to escape, share terror, intense discomfort, right, whether that symptoms, whether that's being triggered, whether you're going through a setback, people think anxiety is that feeling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's true, but it's more than that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's also the fact that no matter what you do, you can't seem to run away from this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No matter how hard you try, no matter how many breathing techniques you try, no matter how many coping crutches, no matter what you do, no matter how many times you ask your petity, whatever it is, you can't escape this feeling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when that happens, you feel utterly helpless.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that you feel like life is happening to you and you have no control.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a feeling a lot of people don't describe, or a lot of people feel, but they don't articulate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People think someone with anxiety is just someone who's feeling fear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's more than that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you've gone through this, you know you have this feeling of just being helpless.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've just being a victim to the world that no matter what, you can't make these symptoms go away no matter how hard you try.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so when you feel that way, fear is the natural response.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And for those that are listening to the podcast, I want to give you a little secret, depression kind of works the same way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not just that people would depression feel bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People would depression feel disconnected from cause and effect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like nothing they do in this world matters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's the point?
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[SPEAKER_00]: right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so when that's the feeling depression is natural.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so what happens?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is modern society do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Modern society with good intentions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Try to ease the suffering.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Detailing people to just say, hey, just take it easy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, just relax.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, try these grounding techniques, you know, step away from work a bit, you know, step away from the stress, hey, make sure you feel better first, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And isn't that fair, isn't that very compassionate?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That society is saying, hey, listen, if you're really going through something, just step away from something, you know, just step away from this firm at it, you know, just take it easy, you know, take time off school, take time off work, you know, remove your responsibilities for a bit, you know, just like yourself,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It makes sense to a certain degree for a certain type of person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But when you're going through anxiety, when you're going through a high-percented nervous system, this advice often makes people feel worse because it continues to encourage people to orient internally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's what I mean.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whenever people tell you, hey, just take it easy, hey, relax.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, society tells you all these things coping crutches, it still makes you orient internally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Basically, how do you feel?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, it just focuses on you internally processing your emotions and just how do you feel inward?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is the symptom there?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is the symptom not?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why is it here?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it was not here yesterday, it's here now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's more intense now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is why I say coping crunches doesn't work because it magnifies the same problem, which is your two internally focused.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so when people say dry these coping crunches, try these brinney exercises, all these things which are good, but if you're already internally focused, you're monitoring whether it's working or not based on whether the symptom is there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it only causes you to hyper focus more internally to how you feel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is why I say recovery is not a restoration of comfort, recovery is the restoration of agency.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When you have agency, you start realizing that your response has an effect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that when you respond to how you're feeling, you can influence the future.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Once you start realizing that yes, you can feel the symptoms, but you can choose how to respond.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, something interesting happens, which is you start developing hope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you start realizing, then you can have control over the future.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I have this panic attack and if I don't do anything and just let it be there, yes, it's uncomfortable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it sucks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if I can just let it be, they're let it pass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The adrenaline burn itself off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can do this with any symptom that you're experiencing in the moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: DPR, intrusive thoughts, whatever it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I don't do anything and if I just choose how to respond, I can let the adrenaline burn itself off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Once you start going through this and you start seeing that this problem starts facing itself now something very interesting happens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember when I talk to adding anxieties more than just fear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the fact that no matter what you do, you're helpless.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That life is happening to you and there's no escape.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now you start seeing wait a minute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I actually have some influence over the future.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually think I can influence and shape my future a bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I choose to respond now, I think I can choose what happens in the future.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And two of the most powerful forces.
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[SPEAKER_00]: is fear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the second, even more powerful force is hope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now you start realizing that you can influence the future.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so recovery is not about trying to feel better in the moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Recovery is reclaiming that power that I have agency over my life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have agency over how I get out of this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is why my YouTube channel, all my content, the recovery programs is all focused on one thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Your ability to respond.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whenever you respond, you have the power in your hand, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exiety and depression thrives on inward hyperfocus, it thrives on how are you feeling like going inward.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Responsibility and what I mean responsibility, I mean the ability to respond.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It does the literal opposite.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It forces outward orientation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, when you're thinking of anxiety and you're thinking about how you feel, it just makes you go internal and makes you focus more on what's going on internally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Recognizing that you have choice and responding and reclaiming that agency makes you focus on outside things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It orientes outward.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so what does that mean for you and how does it supply to anxiety recovery?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's really simple, ask yourself, what does anxiety recovery mean to me?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, then your North Star is still hyper-focused inward.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When I was going through the healing journey and when I was going through anxiety recovery, I felt such intense symptoms.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But what changed was that I made a values commitment that my responsibilities in the world were more important than how I felt in the moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I reclaimed that agency that listen I'm still responsible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to make other things more important.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do that do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Number one, it didn't make my feeling so important, the symptoms, even though it was super uncomfortable, it didn't make it the center of my world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because now something was more important.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Second, it stopped me from trying to resist the feelings and just let it be there and let my body process that emotion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Emotions are just energy emotion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It allowed my body to desensitize the nervous system.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It allowed the symptoms to disappear by letting the nervous system recalibrate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it wasn't able to do that if my soul focus was always on how I felt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so recovery is not a restoration of comfort.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a restoration of your feelings coming back to how you were before you fell in cycle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Recovery is about reclaiming your agency.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then no matter what happens, you have choice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have the ability to respond.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And believe it or not, this is probably the biggest gift in my opinion, you can give anybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One thing going through things out of recovery journey is that it made me very compassionate towards suffering.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, my tolerance for other people's suffering dropped significantly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't see people or animal suffer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just can't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think part of it is because I went through so much suffering myself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a very low tolerance in other people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so when I see people's suffer, the answer for me is, and I want to relieve
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[SPEAKER_00]: they're suffering, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is true I do, but the most compassionate thing I can do for that person is to help them place responsibility back to their hands.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Enough responsibility to remind the person that they are still a part to spend in life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I can show them that their recovery, their life, their destiny is in their hands and all its matters is how they respond.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I give them something much bigger than anxiety recovery.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I give them control over their destiny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Forget the symptoms going away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They can live a life of thriving, not just survival.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a weird because if I can teach people how to respond, does that eliminate the anxiety symptoms right away?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But one of the consequences is that the symptoms end up going away because the nervous system recalibrates and you come back to baseline.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the thing I'm really doing for the person is showing them how to respond and helping them restore their own dignity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so this is really important because a lot of people who are interested in let's say joining our recovery program and getting that guidance, there's sometimes confused.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It starts thinking, wait, like Sean's giving out all this free information, there's giving out all this like amazing content.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why would I need to pay?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like what do you good at tell me that I don't already know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what's happening is that they don't
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[SPEAKER_00]: Recovery is about reclaiming that agency.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's reclaiming that responsibility that I'm able to respond.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what's going to happen is that, once you understand the mechanics of anxiety, which is the whole purpose of the YouTube channel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you've been watching the channel, even if you're listening to this podcast, my first step is helping you understand what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you can just understand what's going on, you'll stop adding fear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't fear what you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you know what it is, then you're not going to be adding fear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then the second is teaching you how to respond.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting how that works, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting that it's not about what you feel is about what you do next.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How do you respond to the symptoms?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So part of that is allowing the symptoms to be there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: art of that is acceptance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it doesn't end there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not just, oh, I'm going to accept and then move on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, because that, that in itself, too, is a little bit too passive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to go even a layer deeper.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's acceptance, there's radical acceptance, which is you accept the situation in your ear, the symptoms that you're feeling, everything that's here, you accept it for what it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but then you also take what we call radical responsibility.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Your choice to respond in this moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you panic?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you freak out?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or do you let it be there and continue on?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then it's about going deeper into responsibility, which is not just responsibility to how you feel, but what responsibility do you have to society?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you going to go back to work?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have people depending on you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is your purpose?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is your mission?
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[SPEAKER_00]: These things are important.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is your North Star.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whenever you start thinking that way, you naturally will orient outward.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And remember, anxiety is so inner-focused, if you make recovery high you're feeling at the end of the day, you're still inward-focused.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is why people can focus on recovering still be stuck, because their measurement of success is still how they feel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Recovery and success to me feels like, oh, my symptoms aren't there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that in itself, just the laser recovery, you have to make other things more important.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Recovery is not about the elimination of symptoms.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Recovery is the restoration of agency, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is why you can have all the comforts in the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can have all your basic needs met and you still feel empty and you still feel anxious because meaning doesn't come from safety alone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: it comes from responsibility.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Responsibility is the best antidepressant to anxiety and depression.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so if you can focus on your ability to respond and if you can make a responsibility in a life more important that orientation will happen outward and anxiety and itself will get smaller and smaller.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so when we're guiding people in the recovery program, we're helping them with this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because when you start responding, anxiety isn't just going to take a back seat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to push back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to try to challenge you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to try a shape shift.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to do all these things because they want you going back to your comfort zone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's going to dictate how everything is going based on how you feel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you get these pushbacks and so this is where the recovery program is, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: When people don't understand the recovery program, they're still thinking this is a game of information.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Information is the first step.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then it's knowledge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Knowledge means what's the right information at the right time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's wisdom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wisdom is okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have the knowledge and I'm applying it and here's what's happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's about embodying all of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so the last thing I want to mention is really something in buy by panic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anybody that comes into our team, we have what we call company vision, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have mission, vision, and values.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Vision is our North Star.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What does this mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: North Star just means that every decision we make within buy by panic needs to be aligned with our vision.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think I've ever shared this publicly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So here's the vision.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to read it out to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: BobbiPanixVision is a world where nervous systems are no longer trapped in survival.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Agency is restored and transformation becomes a ripple that reshapes families, communities, and the future.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What does that mean for you when you hear that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it surprising to you that by my panic, and our vision has nothing to do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We never even use the word anxiety.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't use the word panic attack.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't use the word recovery.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't use any of those things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I read it one more time for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A world where nervous systems are no longer trapped in survival.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Agency is restored and transformation becomes a ripple that reshapes families, communities, and the future.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The work we're doing is more than just anxiety recovery.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's more than just when I mean anxiety recovery in this sense that your symptoms go away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's much more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's an evolution.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We want agency to be restored, which means destiny is now in your hands.
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[SPEAKER_00]: An agency restoration happens through education, knowing what's happening, learning to respond and re-gaining responsibility and ownership of your life, and knowing that what you do can impact the future, you can influence the future.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in the last part, transformation becomes a ripple that reships families, communities in the future.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you may think recoveries about you, it's not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's much more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Your recovery has everything to do with every single life you touch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How you get better influences your partner, influences your kids, influences your families, influences your friends, influences communities.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and influences future generations.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The work that you put in now will ripple through that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're doing the work right now doesn't just mean you go back to living baseline.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You will become a higher version of yourself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Your higher version will influence everybody after.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not just your immediate family, not just your immediate friends, but your generational families and your future, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the world that we're creating here at Bubba Petic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is why I want you to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you just wanting symptoms to go away or playing too small.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I want you to really think about this and redefine what does recovery mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because 99% of people, even those people watching my content are thinking recovery is just eliminating the symptoms because their symptoms are so in their face, but it's more than that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not just that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Recovery is about regaining agency.
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[SPEAKER_00]: is about reclaiming responsibility.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so in order to reclaim responsibility, you have to first understand what's happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to learn a respond part of that acceptance, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Responsibility is built on acceptance, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't be responsible for things you're not willing to accept.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to take acceptance, accepting your symptoms, not just accepting your symptoms, but accepting the situation that you're in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And something that might sting a little bit, which is accepting your role that you've played in perpetuating the cycle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Knowingly or unknowingly, doesn't matter, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not about casting blame here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's about, again, taking responsibility.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Responsibility is not playing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's about choosing the responsibility of what am I responsible for, not just how I feel, but what is my involvement with society.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Making that more important than how you feel in the moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you can do that, that orientation happens outwards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: healing will happen on its own.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't need to do anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So so much of the program is we help people Reorient we help them focus on their goals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We make other things a bigger priority.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We guide them to our process Sometimes those stumble and they'll fall back, you know, we catch them and we kind of help them move forward But they're the ones doing the work and so people think if I just watch a video or if I do this that's enough It's a starting point and it's better than nothing for sure, but if you just stop there, it's not enough
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I hope this podcast helps.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So once you understand, anxiety recovery is just not about restoring comfort, but about restoring your agency and you need to help with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to apply from mentorship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The link is down below.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very simple.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just fill up a questionnaire.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just going to ask how long you've been struggling, where you've tried, how soon do you want to start, what's the process look like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whenever you do that, you will have an opportunity to just spend 15 minutes
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is where you can even ask some questions, and the program coordinator will ask you some questions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if we decide to move forward, you're going to do what we call a sensitization diagnostic assessment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's basically an assessment that shows you how sensitizer nervous system is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're going to be asking a few questions, and then the enrollment coach basically looks at it with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and just helps you decide what's the next steps.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's obviously dependent on house as a tizer nervous system is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in the sensitization diagnostic assessment, there's two factors.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We look at the scale, which is how sensitized is your nervous system.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we also try to dictate, are you heading the right direction, or are you kind of making the cycle a little bit worse?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So even if you don't join the program, you get so much value, like way more than you would, you know, go into your first therapy session or anything,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is really great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so the link is down below.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like I say, ask yourself, what is recovering me to you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it has to be more than just what you feel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That has to be much bigger than that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I hope this podcast helps.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully I'll see you in the next one.