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Love Your Love Muscle - Caring Without Carrying Everything · Transformational Meditation Podcast

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All right. After some trouble getting online and getting the recording started,
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we can finally start. Welcome back to Love Your Love Muscle.
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As you can see, I'm back here with Christina from Way to
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Yourself. So we're going to have a very interesting conversation
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today.
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The theme for today will be how to care without carrying
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everything. So we're going to talk about staying informed, at the same
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time, trying to stay compassionate and regulated
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instead of getting overwhelmed by everything that is happening in
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the world.
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My name is Seb, the founder of the Transformational Meditation Group,
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and this is a biweekly podcast that I hold for you.
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And since this is going to be a talk or interview, it's going
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to be a little bit longer than you are used to.
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Normally, when we are in nature and meditate there, we do a short session,
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30 minutes, and that's it. But now we're going to talk a little bit
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longer, most likely.
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And as you know, I'm not that keen on what is
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happening in society with our
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focus. We can't focus anymore.
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Like I say often,
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our attention span has gotten down to 47 seconds
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from several minutes a couple of years ago.
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So I think it's a crisis to say it that
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way.
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And some of it comes from what we're going to talk about
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today as well. But before we get started and
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reintroduce Christina,
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we're going to do a short self-regulation session, so you'll learn
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how to stay focused for longer, for more than 47
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seconds. So I just want you to find a comfortable position, move a little bit
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with your body
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so you sit good and well. Move your shoulders, your
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neck,
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and just take a nice deep inhale through your nose.
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Fill those lungs with air and breathe out through your mouth.
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When as you breathe out, let the day go. Feel yourself getting centered.
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Lower your shoulders. Loosen your jaw.
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Take another nice deep inhale through your nose
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and out through your mouth.
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Settle down. Feel that you're centered, more relaxed.
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You can close your eyes if you want to.
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And let's just focus immediately on our heart area.
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You can put your hand on your chest right there where your heart is to get more
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focus on your heart space.
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Become more aware of your heart.
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Settle down there with your awareness
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and just imagine that you're breathing through your heart, that the air
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goes in and out through your chest area, through your heart,
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with nice, slow, deep breaths,
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calming the nervous system down,
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settling down.
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And
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on your next out breath, feel that you're settled even more, that you're
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centered
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and focused on this moment, on the present moment.
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Continue breathing through your heart.
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Just say to yourself, set the intention
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in your mind,
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say to yourself that you're going to be focused and present
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throughout this session,
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that you're going to
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stay aware
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so you don't miss out on any important information.
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Because during these sessions, these interviews, there's a lot of
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interesting stuff going on.
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You don't want to miss out
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on this information that can benefit you and can benefit others.
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So again, set the intention to stay alert
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and focused
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on this session,
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the podcast you are watching or listening to right
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now. That you stay
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with us throughout the session,
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not only for your own benefit, but also out of respect for our guest,
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Christina,
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who is
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lending her time to us.
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Beautiful.
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Okay, breathe normally again. Move a little bit with your body
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and open your eyes if you had them closed, and welcome back.
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And let's get started. All right. So
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we have done some previous interviews with Christina from Way to
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Yourself,
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a beautiful organization that helps people
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around the world, but especially, I guess, in Uganda, in Africa,
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where you have been and visited and helped out, right?
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Yeah, that's true.
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Mm-hmm. And you also do weekly
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sessions
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with Tibetan meditations, or at least
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the
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old
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Tibetan knowledge
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Mm-hmm
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Is that what you teach?
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Yes.
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First of all, thank you so much for welcoming me
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back here. I'm very glad to be in this space again.
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And, yeah, for sure there will be weekly
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sessions.
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We do it Sunday evening online.
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And, as well, some self-regulation,
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some different knowledge which is
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combined, and for sure can help a lot in
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the everyday life.
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Beautiful. I
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got a link from you now recently, so I will post it under this video,
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under this podcast,
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with the times
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when these sessions are.
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So those that are following along, they can chime in
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on these dates and see if you
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can join those sessions.
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Let's go over to the theme for today, and if you see me looking up over, it's there
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where I have my notes so that you don't get confused and
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thinking, "What is Sep doing now? Why is he looking the other way?"
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That's because of the setup. We had a problem with
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the session before to get it started and recorded.
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So-
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Okay
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... we're over to plan B and doing everything on the mobile
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phone.
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What we want to talk about is,
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I guess everybody
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knows you want to stay informed, right?
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You
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often hear people say from the spiritual realm or from
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the spiritual space, the New Age movement, et cetera, saying,
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"First thing you have to do is turn off the television, don't watch the
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news,"
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but all those things, but you still have to live in the society.
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So there's still a way you need to stay informed, right?
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Otherwise you
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don't have anything to talk about, or you don't know what's going on around you.
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But the thing is, there is a
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good thing, the people saying, "Turn off the television, don't watch the
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news,"
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et cetera,
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but because you get overwhelmed so easily.
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There's so much information. We are so much of a global society now.
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There's so much going on that
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even if it's not in our direct area, in our vicinity,
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still affects us very much.
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So if you turn on the news now or go to the media
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websites, you will notice, of course, the war in
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Ukraine, Israel, Gaza, US and
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Iran, so lots of conflicts going on around the world.
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The war in Iran is also affecting
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everybody globally a lot because of oil shortages,
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that sort of things. So we get affected by it
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nevertheless.
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There is also things
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going on, if you're living in Europe, in the EU especially,
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with EU leaders
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trying to take away certain freedoms and
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privacy that we're so used to in form of chat
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control and digital currencies, and their whole
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digital life is getting looked at or watched,
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and it's almost becoming more like China
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in a way. So there's a lot of things that affect us that we can
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get concerned about,
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and that can cause uncertainty,
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stress, problem with sleeping.
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But you still want to stay informed, right?
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You still want to stay compassionate about, for
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example,
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refugees coming from these areas where there's
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war.
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You can't stay numb. Those are human beings.
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You have to listen to them and live with them, and yeah, maybe
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try to help them and understand them.
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So the question today is actually how do we do that?
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How do we navigate
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in today's world where there's so much going on and
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a big portion of it is affecting us?
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I don't know. What are your thoughts about that, Christina?
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Thank you so much for this topic for today.
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I see it's very important and very much up to date right
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now.
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There are different points which are important right now.
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First of all, we always will have,
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let's say, some difficulties in the world because
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this is how the world is created.
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When we really go back to,
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let's say, to the source,
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our planet is like this, that we are facing challenges.
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Because only through the challenges we are going to develop.
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We need to think about it. We need to overcome
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it. We need to do something. And
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the main situation is right now
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we are under the influence of, let's say, some higher
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forces.
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Higher forces which are
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giving us some limits maybe
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even, or some freedom.
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And the time is changing,
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so we have a time when there's a lot of freedom,
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when we are supported in it, and also time coming when
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it is more limited.
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And mostly,
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it's also coming from nature. It's like the
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influence from the higher forces, but as well,
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there's the situation when people start
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acting a lot by themselves, when they really forget
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about their
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true background.
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We are living in a world right now when people
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have a very--
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How to say this in English?
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Let's
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say people, they
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had a very good life. They had a lot
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of
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freedom. They had everything what they need.
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And that's a moment when people, they forget to pray,
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they forget to think about the higher forces, to think about
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God, because everything is fine, so you don't have this
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need. You understand?
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But when you forget about it, then
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God sees that some changes are needed,
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and then it happens that there will be some regulations.
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Because when the situation changes,
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then it happens that we need to come back
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to prayers. We need to remind ourself to connect
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more to God.
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We need to unite more with people to start to
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support each other, and then the situation will change
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again. And right now, I
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understand what you're talking about, when everything is limited
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with the,
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like you told about the
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online
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currency, what happening, you told about it's
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happening nearly like China.
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And so these regulations are there.
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And we need to remember more about God. We need to pray.
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Because when we do like this, we see that
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changes will coming.
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And the most important is
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our life always will be somehow limited.
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There will be always limits, because you live, for example, in
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Norway. Norway have rules,
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regulations. You have laws from the government.
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You have to follow them.
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Me in my country, I have the same. In some parts, they may
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be similar, some parts completely different.
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What for you, it's normal, for us, it's not possible to think
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about maybe.
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And so we always have these regulations and
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limitations. And
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the only thing is that we need to understand when we start
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the way of our self-development,
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when you start to learn more,
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to develop spiritually,
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automatically, you will get more freedom.
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Even if you are very limited in the space, if everything is
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narrow,
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it's
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anyway creating some freedom. You
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understand?
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Mm-hmm.
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I really like that you almost, or almost maybe you
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even went straight to maybe the cause of everything that's going on right
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now. Like we lost our connection to what you call
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God,
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where we don't lose the connection, but we are not so
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focused on it anymore because we had such a good life, and
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everything was like, "Yeah, why? I don't have to pray or ask
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God for anything like that." When I translate it to my
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world where God is not a person, to say it that way, but more like the
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source of life,
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and the natural law of things.
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Almost like we humans,
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we are getting further and further away from
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what life truly is and what it is being a human
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being. And then I come back again to
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what I always advocate, it's like the heart-brain connection.
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If we
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stop
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our hearts, there's the source. You can almost say God lives there,
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and it connects us to
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God, right? It connects us to each other, it connects us to the world, it connects
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us quite literally to the earth itself and the
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universe because it's all electromagnetic information
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and energy.
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So even the science shows this, like
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we are losing our connection
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with source, with what you can call God,
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because we're living up in our heads.
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Everything is here, and we only
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process the information from our five senses and not our sixth
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sense, our heart. We don't let our heart play with it,
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and
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listen to the input that our heart can give.
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And vice versa,
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how we live, and we see that with,
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especially, I must say, unfortunately as well,
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with our current politicians, our governments, it's like they are
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not
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living from the heart. They're not heart-focused.
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When they make decisions, it
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doesn't come from the heart anymore.
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And I think that also, like you say, that connection with the heart,
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that connection with God, however you want to see it,
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is
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leading us constantly into a
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blind way.
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It stops us, and it causes conflict.
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I recently talked with my father about all the things going on in the
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world as well,
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and
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we came to the conclusion as two old wise
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men,
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actually, it's all about education.
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If we grow up in a
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society where we learn at school, for example,
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human behavior, what is acceptable, what is normal,
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living from the heart, especially,
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how to be kind to each other, how to
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act or help other people when they have a difficult time,
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how to stand up for each other, stand up for yourself, and not
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let yourself get
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overrun by
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some
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people who want authority over you or want to pressure you in
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things you don't like.
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Those sort of things we are not
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taught at school anymore.
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Mm-hmm.
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We are learning about society,
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but we're not learning how to behave in society.
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Mm-hmm. And the
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only way
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we are now getting to know how to behave in society is by
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being taught
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the law,
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which only says all the things you cannot do.
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Like, it's forbidden with this, it's forbidden with that.
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And that's like
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even if you say to somebody, "You can't do this and that," and you
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use an hour to say all the things you can do,
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a human being normally would say, "Oh, right, so I don't have any
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freedom at all."
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Mm-hmm. And even maybe gets
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the idea to revolt
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against it and to actually go against it.
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Like, "Oh, yeah, I can't do this? Okay, great,
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then I'll try something else that maybe isn't good either."
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I sometimes say when I talk to some-- I talked to a lawyer once, I
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said, "Why is the law always saying the things you can't do?" I mean,
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the law books would be a lot thinner if you could just
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say the things you can do.
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And it would also say, "Hey, you have the freedom to do this and that,"
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instead of always saying, "You can't do this. You can't do that." Yeah.
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But,
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yeah. I mean, I think we agree on the point that
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losing our connection to how we live,
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the way of life, and
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not living from the heart anymore could be a cause of all the
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troubles we are in.
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And I guess also knowing
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this,
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and you talked a little bit about prayer,
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and prayer
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overlaps a lot with meditation because you're contemplating
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sort of in both ways, and
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not doing that anymore makes that you're not connected
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with life. What do you think so far?
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How are we
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doing?
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Do you think
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we agree, like meditating, praying,
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getting back to being a real human
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being instead of trying to figure things out without listening to
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what really life is about?
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah, you have very important points and views.
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Thank you so much for speaking about this.
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Right now,
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our world is changing in a lot of areas, in a lot of
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everyday life situations even,
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and
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we
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see some, like, the changes, the regulations,
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in a lot of fields.
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I can give you an example. For example, during the last days,
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I had contact with a school. I saw the students right
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now,
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and, to be honest, I was very surprised because there
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happened a lot of changes as well. Like, when you go more deep
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inside of this topic, you see the changes there as well.
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And it's completely different than, for example, 10 years ago.
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A lot of changes. And
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so,
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for sure, we have to remember ourself
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that
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basically we are free. We
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can do whatever we want, but we need to think about that
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everything have a consequence, because actually we
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are following some, let's say,
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cosmic laws.
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Everybody is doing it, and even when you think you are free,
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you have these laws, and in one moment, it will have an
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influence in your life.
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And so
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I prepared a topic or some first
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today because more and more,
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we should remember about the ancient knowledge which we
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also find in the Bible.
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For a lot of people, for example, Bible is connected only for
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religion, but-
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Mm-hmm
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... actually it is not. It's just like what people,
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the human being, created out of it, but in fact, it's a
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lot of knowledge in it,
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and when we adapt it to our everyday life, it
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helps a lot.
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And already Christ told, "If you want to find a way to God,
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you have to pass me. You have to come through me to be
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able to reach." And so I prepared first,
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I don't know if you are connected somehow to Bible or if you
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are somehow in this topic,
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because this is what our world needs more
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and more, this
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connection to the ancient knowledge, to the prayer, to
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God, that we are able
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to get out of difficult situations.
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What we have to-
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I want to pause a little bit. I must say I've
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grown up amongst Roman Catholics. I've been to Roman Catholic schools.
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My parents weren't Catholic at all, but
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they sent me to these schools. So I know I've been around the
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Bible a lot,
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in church as well. And I didn't find it enough, so I went
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actually on and
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dug up the Gnostic
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texts-
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Yes
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... which has even more information that isn't available in the Bible.
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And it's like you say, there's so much,
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like you say, ancient knowledge, but
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it's actually talking about
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life, how life is built up. Right? And how we can navigate
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in life and who we are in the world, who we are in the cosmos and the
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universe. Who are we there? If you dig
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through this, it's so fascinating, and like you
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say, don't connect it to religion.
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Do your own digging, investigate.
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And
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you can go, I've done this also, go to a church.
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I
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did all this when I was still working at the hospital.
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So we have a hospital priest, right?
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And
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I did some rounds through the hospital on
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some QA control, QA checks, so I met them, too.
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So there's always a lovely conversation to have with priests
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and
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other religious people around you.
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You can even go to your local imam if you are
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a Muslim. You will find so much similar information that
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overlap each other, and the red thread to everything,
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to all the religions, basically, you will find so many connections and
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so many ancient knowledge which is the same or based on the same.
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And once you get digging in, it's just pleasant to see that
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all these religions are based on the same principles,
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more or less. And it's the way how you interpret it that
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makes the differences between them.
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But in the core, it's basically all the same,
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which
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I think is wonderful, and I really want to encourage, like you say as well,
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we
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must get back to
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ancient knowledge, and yeah. I would say take a huge step back
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so we can get forward again.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah. With all the information we forget or didn't focus on, we
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should take that and
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get back to that and take it with us again.
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Mm-hmm.
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Mm.
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To come back somehow to the roots, right?
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Yeah. And actually,
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quite recently, my eldest son, I have two sons, my eldest son said
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that a lot of his classmates and kids he knows,
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they are seeking their way to churches again,
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to the church, to religion.
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So
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there's
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hope
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I must say. Yeah. I find the youth today
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very wise.
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Mm-hmm.
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And when I see my kids and their
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friends, what they talk about and
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how they do things in life, what they prioritize,
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I feel like, wow,
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we need these kids in politics right now.
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Yeah.
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And clean up a bit because they, yeah.
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I don't know.
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But the
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generation right now that is like 18, 19 years old,
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they are wonderful. I'm not sure how you see that.
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How old were the kids you have met
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recently?
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Oh, basically, that was very special days they had because in
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our country, they are preparing now to come soon to summer
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holidays.
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Mm-hmm.
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And basically, all their education now is done for this
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study, for this moment, and so
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they are doing different projects.
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And
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it was a mixed class, not only like one level class,
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but different ages. I guess starting from 9 or
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10 years up to 14, 15
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years. And really, they think a
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lot. They are very wise. They are
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really great guys. But we need to,
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yeah, to guide them, to teach them, to guide them, and to
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give some,
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let's say some point for the future.
29:54
You understand?
29:55
Yeah, absolutely.
29:57
Right now-
29:59
And guide them in the right direction, right? Like what you're doing.
30:02
Let them know about-
30:05
Uh-huh
30:06
... ancient knowledge and
30:09
the Bible or God or whatever you want to call it.
30:12
And
30:13
yeah, reconnect them with that knowledge there, and hopefully,
30:17
they take that with them in their decision-making and
30:21
how they want to
30:23
Want to build their lives.
30:25
Mm.
30:28
Uh-huh.
30:29
Well, they
30:32
need, for sure, the guidance and the knowledge, and
30:37
some good examples. Because when you don't know, for example,
30:41
you're told how to live for the
30:44
future,
30:46
you need to have the good examples to understand how
30:50
is somebody living really, that you are able to follow it, that
30:54
you can maybe adapt it, because you also want to have such a possibility
30:58
in your life.
30:59
And that's why it's really good to have these
31:03
examples to be able to follow
31:07
and to create it for the good future.
31:11
I think it's also important to-
31:13
I prepared-
31:13
Yeah, go ahead.
31:18
Uh-huh.
31:20
I prepared one verse. If it is okay,
31:24
I want to share it.
31:27
It's okay for you?
31:27
Sure. Yeah.
31:28
Yeah.
31:30
So, it's in John, in the chapter eight, the
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verse 31 to 32.
31:38
"If you abide in my word, you are truly my
31:41
disciples, and you will know the truth, and the
31:45
truth will set you free.
31:48
So, if the Son sets you free, you will be free
31:52
indeed."
31:56
Beautiful.
31:56
I can send you after, when you want.
31:59
And,
32:00
so yeah, when you know the truth, the truth set us
32:04
free,
32:05
and when we are the truly the
32:09
disciples, then already everything is changing.
32:13
Because when we have the knowledge, we are
32:18
getting more free.
32:20
And then people ask the question, "But what is the truth?" Oh, you know the truth
32:24
when you feel it in your heart. You know it.
32:27
This
32:29
feels good. That's often the truth, if you wonder.
32:32
And you can also, what I often do with my students or
32:36
my course participants or workshop participants,
32:40
is asking our heart a question. And
32:44
that is basically like what we did in the start, breathe through your heart,
32:48
calm down, and then you ask yourself a question, a yes and no
32:53
question. So you should be able to answer yes or no on it, nothing
32:57
else.
32:58
And you ask that question, and then you drop into your heart space,
33:02
and the first answer that comes up comes straight from the heart because you
33:06
haven't analyzed anything yet. It's just straight from source,
33:10
as I call it.
33:11
And that's then,
33:14
most of the time, the correct answer.
33:17
You have to trust it,
33:18
trust your intuition, trust that knowledge there.
33:22
So that's also a way to find truth. And sometimes you get the
33:26
answer that you didn't expect or that you didn't want to hear.
33:30
That's just the way it is.
33:32
Just go for it and just say, "Okay." If your heart said yes, it's, "Oh, okay."
33:37
Then trust it.
33:40
And it's the same with if you hear something, truth, it rings a
33:44
bell, as people call it, or it resonates with you.
33:48
That's truth. That's the truth.
33:52
Which also,
33:54
I find difficult to accept as a European.
33:58
Now I'm getting a little bit back to politics, for example.
34:01
If you hear our politicians talk
34:04
and speak, our NATO politicians, EU
34:07
politicians,
34:09
and especially when they answer questions, they kind of run around the
34:13
bush. They don't want to answer full out.
34:17
And I'm like, "Ah, okay, you're hiding something.
34:19
You're not entirely speaking the truth."
34:24
Contrary, when you hear
34:27
our
34:28
adversaries, like the
34:32
head of state in China or President Putin from
34:36
Russia or his foreign minister,
34:40
Lavrov, if you hear them talk and speak and answer questions,
34:44
it makes sense.
34:47
I don't want to say they are right because then I'm being banned
34:50
from everything in Europe, I guess, right now.
34:55
But it makes sense what they talk about, and it's like
34:59
it rings a bell. Yeah, it makes sense.
35:02
And then I guess people can get confused.
35:06
What is happening? What is the truth right now?
35:09
And I'm just going to be honest with myself and say, hey,
35:14
I tend to
35:17
take the information that makes sense to me,
35:20
even if it comes from a source that I've been told I shouldn't
35:24
trust.
35:26
I'll take that more as a truth, and then
35:29
somebody talking around the bush, talking nonsense
35:33
or illogical,
35:36
and can't answer a question, like a definite question in a way that's, "Okay,
35:40
this is the way it is."
35:42
I find it very frustrating, myself,
35:45
and I guess maybe many people
35:49
in Europe,
35:51
that our governments and politicians aren't
35:55
open and truthful in some way.
35:59
Have you experienced the same?
36:05
First of all,
36:06
there is some very simple, let's say maybe some kind of
36:10
phrase. Because to realize the truth,
36:14
it's always good to focus on your heart.
36:17
When you connect to your heart, when you're really
36:21
able
36:23
to feel it deeply,
36:26
there's the phrase, it means you feel God.
36:29
You can feel God in your heart. And in this moment, you
36:33
understand that it is true. It's something
36:38
alive, something true. You feel it more
36:42
deep.
36:43
And we are living, of course, in a time when there are
36:47
also
36:48
a lot of dark forces coming, a lot of dark
36:52
powers trying to affect the life of a
36:56
person. In the Bible, they call it
36:59
Saturn is coming,
37:01
or the devil is there, devil is around.
37:05
So,
37:07
yeah, this is existing, of course. These powers exist.
37:11
But when we connect to our heart, we understand
37:15
what is the right, what is the truth,
37:18
and
37:20
we need to connect more to it, to this source.
37:24
We need to connect more
37:26
and especially now,
37:29
what is also very important in our days, what I see, I
37:33
guess you have the same in Norway, or
37:36
I guess most of the European countries have
37:40
similar
37:44
situations,
37:47
when people, they separate.
37:50
People, they live
37:52
very separate from each other.
37:56
So everybody have a own life. People, they're working a
38:00
lot.
38:02
Somehow they try to manage their things,
38:06
their topics, their difficulties alone.
38:10
Maybe sometimes they don't have even another possibility because
38:14
nobody is around.
38:16
But in fact,
38:18
to have such a modern life, it brings us
38:22
as well obstacles.
38:25
And sometimes it's good
38:27
to think about it,
38:30
maybe to change it somehow, to have friends around, to have
38:34
your family, to have relatives, whoever is there,
38:38
to support each other. You understand what I'm talking about?
38:43
Yeah.
38:44
For example, when we go back,
38:47
from our last conversations, I am connected
38:50
to African country, to Uganda,
38:54
and to see how these people, they are living, it's very
38:58
different from our way of life. Very different.
39:01
And
39:03
sometimes I really would love to adapt some part just from
39:07
their life to bring to Europe because I know it would be a
39:11
great
39:13
possibility, a great influence to change it.
39:17
And then,
39:19
yeah, our life will blossom because then we already
39:23
have a good basement,
39:25
and when you have people around who are there
39:29
supporting each other,
39:32
who are trustful,
39:34
you can ask for advice, you can
39:38
somehow doing good things together,
39:42
then a big step already is created.
39:48
I think that you mentioned now one part of the solution
39:52
as well.
39:54
There are many
39:56
possible solutions that you can do.
39:59
I think, like you said, helping each other,
40:03
and also learning from other cultures and other
40:07
countries. We talked about the same last time as well, I remember.
40:11
It would be wonderful if all the things we-- There are so
40:15
many things we can learn from the cultures in Africa and in
40:19
South America,
40:20
how their community is.
40:24
And research shows that as well, if you want to be more
40:27
scientific, that we have this happiness report, World
40:31
Happiness Report from the UN, which I say, this is
40:35
BS because it's only based on money and nothing, and not
40:39
how people feel themselves because the countries that are
40:44
according to the UN, the happiest countries are also the countries with the most
40:47
depressions, people with depressions.
40:50
Mm-hmm.
40:50
But the people that are really happy often live in countries with less money, but
40:54
they are so dependent on each other.
40:55
They form tight communities, and they help each other.
40:58
Mm-hmm.
40:59
And I guess that makes people happy.
41:01
And like you say, we live in the Western world, in Europe,
41:06
separated from each other. We have separated us from nature, from
41:09
the source of life, from God, but we also separate each other from each other,
41:13
which is actually basically the same because we are part of nature.
41:17
We are part of God. We are all connected.
41:20
But we try to separate each other. And if we
41:24
can, like you said, the big part of the solution here,
41:29
I'm very convinced about that, is connect to each other.
41:33
And that's also why I find it so beautiful that the youth
41:36
nowadays, and more and more people are getting back to, for example, the
41:40
church, where they meet each other.
41:43
They talk about certain topics. They connect to each other.
41:46
And if that church is also
41:49
an organization where they organize things around other people,
41:53
like helping another member of the church or going
41:56
around helping other people,
42:00
doing that sort of things, I guess we're getting back to
42:05
a way of life
42:07
that is more human
42:09
and more real and more truthful.
42:12
Yeah.
42:13
The caring aspect comes back instead of
42:16
the competition, which is
42:20
basically
42:21
separating each other now.
42:25
Yeah.
42:26
It's true. I really like these words,
42:30
because when we start to compare each other, we lose a
42:34
big part of ourself. And basically, we cannot compare
42:38
because everybody is very different. We are individuals.
42:42
And our modern life, of course, brings us a lot of
42:46
advantages, but as well a lot of
42:48
separation. And I liked it before you were
42:52
talking about South America,
42:55
how the
42:57
way of life can be. Because in this
43:01
connection, I remember a long time ago, I
43:05
had even some teacher from South America coming,
43:09
and it was great experience because I saw she was a
43:13
lady and she was
43:18
some time already in my country, but still you saw she's
43:22
very different. She's not fitting in this
43:26
frame of our country.
43:28
And she was somehow more free, more
43:33
alive, more emotions, everything.
43:36
And it was really wonderful to see.
43:40
And, as well,
43:42
I don't know much about the way of life there, but
43:46
I see that these people very different than from Europe,
43:50
and they are connecting more. They also have this ancient
43:54
knowledge, this ancient way of life,
43:58
which really
44:00
what we need here very much. Because
44:03
then our life changes. Situations
44:07
will be more easier. We can overcome the difficulties more
44:12
fast, maybe even more
44:15
easy.
44:17
Yeah.
44:20
So I guess, people asking right now, what can I do?
44:25
People that are watching this, listening to this, that are living in the EU,
44:29
in Europe,
44:31
in North America, the West, to say it that way,
44:35
what can I do as a person? I would
44:39
say try to find more knowledge, like
44:43
Christina said, in the
44:45
religious texts, ancient knowledge.
44:48
And I can highly recommend even going beyond that
44:53
to find even more information
44:56
because, personally, I found the Bible
45:00
nice, very good,
45:01
but there's more. There should be more.
45:03
And then I found even more in the Gnostic text, and there's so much going on and
45:07
around that as well.
45:10
And if you want to, find a group, a talk group, a prayer group,
45:16
go to a church. But I find fascinating,
45:20
now I talked about prayer, prayer groups, and if you don't like the word
45:24
prayer,
45:26
go to intention groups, which is basically the same,
45:31
which are small groups of people that help each other
45:35
by either praying or, if you don't like the word praying, setting an
45:38
intention. And we have done that with the transformational meditation
45:42
group as well, setting the intentions for people that need
45:46
help. And it's so giving. It's so
45:50
wonderful to do,
45:52
and it really connects you to the other people in the group.
45:55
And it also shows how strong we
45:59
are and how capable we are in changing
46:04
reality for real, that
46:07
everything is energy. We can do so much just by changing our
46:10
way of being, changing our state of being and
46:14
be compassionate and help each other,
46:17
lift each other up. It's not competition.
46:23
Competition is games. That's what we do in sports, right?
46:26
That's what the World Cup is for.
46:29
That's for fun.
46:31
But outside of that, we should help each other, we should be there
46:35
for each other, and we should, as a society, a real society, lift each other
46:39
up. We can't be there anymore saying, "This country
46:43
is better than the other country." No,
46:45
all these countries are on the same planet, planet Earth,
46:49
and we all influence this planet. And Bruce
46:53
Lipton, I recently saw an interview with him.
46:56
I guess you know who Bruce Lipton is.
46:58
I guess he's familiar to our listeners and viewers
47:02
as well. He's like the father of epigenetics.
47:08
He said recently we humans are the
47:10
gardeners of the Earth, the planet, and also the guardians
47:14
of the planet.
47:16
We are here to tend to the garden,
47:20
to the planet,
47:22
and not to
47:23
rip it apart, not to rip each other apart.
47:26
We are here to make things blossom, make it even more beautiful,
47:31
to tend to it, to like a garden. And I found that a
47:34
wonderful
47:36
thing. I think if we can live from that point of view,
47:40
like why I am here, why are we fighting, why are we having so much
47:44
conflict? If we stop that for a moment and say, "Hey, I'm here to
47:49
take care of myself, other people, and the planet and the
47:53
world,"
47:56
then, yeah.
47:58
It's so easy
48:01
to say, right?
48:02
Uh-huh.
48:03
And it's also very easy to do.
48:06
Mm-hmm.
48:07
And that's the thing.
48:09
You just have to start doing it.
48:11
Mm-hmm. It's true. We are living all on the
48:15
same planet, and so basically we need to take care not
48:19
only about our countries, but about the whole planet.
48:23
And we are the
48:26
gardeners, how to say this in English?
48:28
Gardeners,
48:30
who are
48:32
planting every day. We are giving out the
48:36
seeds and,
48:38
yeah. So if we have the people around,
48:43
we can maybe even plant something together, something good together.
48:48
And even to
48:50
support, to lift up each other, to say, "Maybe you need to
48:54
check your garden. Maybe something is going wrong.
48:59
You need to harvest and to
49:02
put some other seeds maybe."
49:06
And basically, it's a good topic because I was thinking a lot.
49:11
For example, in my country, we have a lot of rules, a lot of
49:15
regulations.
49:16
And it happened that when you come to other
49:20
countries out of Europe, for example, you see that they don't
49:24
care about the things what people care a lot in our country.
49:29
And so
49:30
it happened that
49:33
I was thinking, "Why it is like this?" Somehow it's upside
49:37
down. We cannot only care in one country,
49:42
want to save the world, let's say,
49:45
through different actions, but the rest of the world is not caring about
49:49
it. And so we also need to have this
49:53
knowledge, the understanding, the consciousness
49:56
about how we are living, what we are doing, what we are
50:00
really planting,
50:02
to be able to have a good future out of it.
50:06
Absolutely.
50:08
Yeah.
50:08
Absolutely.
50:10
I think we can conclude with this,
50:14
start
50:17
living
50:19
from the heart.
50:20
It's always the core message. We come down to that every time.
50:24
With the heart, we are connected to God, to the world, to
50:28
each other.
50:29
So reconnect the heart to the brain.
50:33
Find community.
50:37
If you feel alone, if you feel
50:41
separated,
50:42
find community. And we know already that
50:47
some youth is already doing that, so take an example from our kids,
50:52
I should say.
50:53
And yeah.
50:57
Start.
50:59
Begin somewhere.
51:01
Don't sit still and say, "Everybody else has to change," but you
51:05
can contribute by changing
51:07
your ways if you haven't done so yet.
51:11
And
51:13
it isn't like a pill. It isn't like, "Oh, I'm changing my
51:16
ways. Tomorrow, everything is better."
51:19
It's just
51:23
if more people who do this, then you get that tipping
51:26
point where everybody changes over as well.
51:31
So yeah.
51:33
Contribute. Go to your school. If you are a teacher, a meditation teacher,
51:37
do like Christina, for example. Go visit the school,
51:41
talk about self-regulation, living from the heart, maybe
51:45
some religion if you want to pass that on as well.
51:50
Spread the positive
51:52
message about connection, community,
51:54
and stop the
51:58
separation. I guess that's the basic what it's all
52:02
about. We are in the current situation,
52:06
especially in the Western world right now, because of separation.
52:10
I guess that's the
52:14
big cause of everything. Hmm.
52:15
Mm-hmm.
52:19
Okay. Yeah.
52:23
Let's conclude with that. Do you want something to add still?
52:27
Is there something we forgot?
52:31
I think for today, it's quite a lot already.
52:33
So thank you for this conversation and for
52:37
this possibility, and
52:40
I guess we can continue in one moment, but for today,
52:43
let's conclude.
52:46
It's true, we should stop the separation and be more
52:50
united and focused
52:53
on the same goal, to overcome challenges, because
52:57
they are there.
52:59
Our life is not always blossoming.
53:02
We also have the ups and downs. And
53:06
yeah. So if we are connected, then it's more easier
53:10
to overcome it.
53:12
Absolutely.
53:13
Let it be so.
53:15
Absolutely.
53:17
We're going to start the process of separating
53:21
us digitally from each other and from our watchers and viewers
53:25
and listeners,
53:27
but we stay connected nevertheless through our heart, through the electromagnetic
53:31
field of the Earth, and just by thinking.
53:34
If you think about somebody, you're already connecting.
53:38
That's how easy it is, basically.
53:43
Thank you so much, Christina, for today, and I hope we will see you back
53:47
very soon again. And good luck with all your projects
53:51
and endeavors in the near future. And
53:55
people that are watching and listening to this, look down
53:59
in the description for the link to
54:01
Christina's weekly sessions on Sunday at 8:00 PM
54:05
Central European Time,
54:07
if I'm not mistaken. Yep. And
54:11
just try it out and see what it is all about.
54:14
And maybe you'll see me there as well.
54:16
I'm not always available Sunday at 8:00 PM, but when I am, I
54:20
will definitely come and
54:24
participate in Christina's session.
54:27
Okay.
54:29
Goodbye, everybody. Take good care,
54:31
and namaste.
54:33
Thank you so much, and see you soon. Namaste.