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The Perfect Race Preparation | MindSets Podcast | Episode 67 · The MindSets Podcast

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Hello and welcome back to another episode of The Mindsets
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Podcast, episode 67. Charles, give me a thought on
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that. We're getting through them,
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aren't we? I mean, that's actually
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factually correct, yes. So big news this week.
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We are the Champions. We are.
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And I said it in the last episode, and I think it's
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finally time to decide that we cut funding from male, all
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men's, all male sports in in the UK because everything should be
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going to women England women's rugby.
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Amazing. Bring it home.
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Yeah. What a win.
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I think they're now 33 games on the trot, unbeaten.
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It's almost like it's it's just expected.
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If you watch it and you're like, well, this is boring because
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they're going to win. Do you know what sucks about
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that? I once played for a team that
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was 33 NIL and like in an undefeated streak and I hated it
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because all that you can do is lose.
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And we lost. We, we, I think we either lost,
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so we were 33 and one or we went 34 and one.
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It was around there. It was horrible because the
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whole thing had just been like winning for years and then it
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it. Well, I'm glad for them that
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they went for 33 because if it'd been 32 games streak winning and
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then they lost the World Cup final.
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That would have been true, actually.
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Yeah, fair. Enough.
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They would like head and shoulders.
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Yeah, head and shoulders. The best team?
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I would almost deliberately lose the next one 'cause it doesn't
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matter. Doesn't matter.
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But yeah, so well done to England women's rugby and anyone
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else that partakes in the the women's side of rugby because
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you are growing the game. The next one was another big
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win. We managed to stumble our way to
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a victory in the Ryder Cup. 1513 was the final score.
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There was a little controversy with this one there.
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Was and again, we always, we, I don't know why, but we always
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managed to come back to golf on the podcast at some point.
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Considering either of us very good at golf, Terrible.
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Nah, come on, give me, give me some credit.
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I've shot over a couple of times before.
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I had, I had a round last year or I went six under through
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eight holes. Really.
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Yeah. Fucked it up at the end.
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Yeah, that was actually some of the best golf that I've watched
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on TV and I've been watching golf for many, many years.
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So if you haven't watched any of the highlights, go and watch the
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highlights on YouTube because watching the the majority of
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it's bit pretty boring. But the highlights and and some
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of like, like you say, the controversy behind the fans
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shouting and chanting at some of the Europe players was was
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pretty good to watch. In their back swing as well.
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Oh yeah, like that was. We don't condone oh there's so
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many good moments, but like Justin Rose was my favorite from
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the weekend and there were like 2 moments that were like truly
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goated. I don't know if you have seen
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like you know when Tiger Woods putts and he knows it's going in
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and he walks, he follows the ball with his putter.
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There was one huge putt for Justin Rose and he knocks it and
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it's like rolling, rolling. It looks so wide and then it
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breaks last minute but he's already walking.
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He's so confident and he's like almost beats the ball to the
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hole and it's like, I don't know a 15 foot putt.
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Like it was wild. And then he started like he was
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on the green and I think it was either de Shambo or de Shambo's
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caddy were just like slowly creeping into his eye line when
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he's trying to read the part and he has a go and he's he shouts
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at them. He's like, just get out the way
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basically. And it's all that you can feel
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the tension, even just watching it through the TV.
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And then he just drains this part and just stares straight at
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both of them. The crowd's going wild and it's
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so cold, it's so sick. And honestly, there's so many
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good. I think, I think that's the
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thing that's so good about the Ryder Cup.
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Obviously there's not too many. In fact, there's really not many
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times in Professional Golf where there is like team.
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Yeah, and or like a crowd that goes wild.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And especially when it was so
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close, like everyone, the atmosphere is higher.
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Obviously this time it was in the USA, lot of people as well,
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the comment warriors across social media saying it takes a
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whole continent to beat A to beat the US now interesting fact
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on that. the US has more PGA registered players than the
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entirety of Europe. So suck on that.
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Yeah, yeah. But yeah, no wicked.
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And like Charles said, go back and watch some of the highlights
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coming up on my feet daily and it was brilliant.
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There's so many good moments, I am for sure.
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Well, today we're going to be talking about a couple of
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things, but this is kind of all still in the lead up to the
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event we're hosting this weekend if you're listening prior to the
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12th of October. That made me nervous, yeah.
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Yeah, no, it's. Not this week, is it?
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For those that are listening to this, This was recorded the week
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before, but we have got the rocks SIM.
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So it's a full high rock SIM, full runs, real sleds and
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everything in between. So if you are tempted by that
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and you're thinking that you're going to get FOMO, you will get
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FOMO. The link will be in the
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description of tickets. So definitely go and check it
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out. But because we want to make sure
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that you guys use the SIM properly and learn from it, What
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we've decided to do is do a few things in terms of discussion
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points about pre race fuelling, how to get ready for your race
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in terms of warm up and then also a little bit of a
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discussion topic about when you're actually racing.
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So the first thing is pre race fuelling.
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Now you shouldn't ever do anything on race day that you
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haven't done before. This is a prime example of a not
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real race day where you can practice.
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So like if you haven't done fuelling before and you want to
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give it a go, this is a great way to figure out if something
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does or does not work for your body.
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Have you got any random tips? Because I've got some science to
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follow up for some people, but I want to know from your
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perspective. I wasn't going to go random.
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And again, I don't want to give unsolicited nutrition of going
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to OK, cool. But the big one for me is kind
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of the timing around your fueling strategy and figuring
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out when in the day your race is going to be.
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So for example, it's going to be similar for our SIM to what
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you're going to experience on race day because we're going to
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give you a certain heat time and then you just have to work
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backwards from your heat time to make sure you've got enough time
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to fuel and eat the stuff that you need to eat before you race.
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And the beauty of this, I assume you'll be staying at home, so
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everything will be like normal. If you're travelling for a high
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Rocks race, that might not necessarily be the case,
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especially if you're in a foreign country where you don't
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have access to the foods that you normally eat before racing
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or training. So yeah, using your heat times
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kind of work backwards and make sure you have enough fuel pre
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race essentially. Yeah, We've already spoken a bit
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about tapering in one of our first episodes where we became
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this double S format, which I think was like episode 50 or 51
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something. Something around then we spoke
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about tapering and how you should be doing that.
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Again, for a SIM. You don't necessarily need to do
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that unless you really wanted to make it a complete simulation of
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how a whole week might feel. But you want to be continuing to
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do your workouts in the lead up. As you said though with the
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timing of it, you do want to prime your body.
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We're not going to have anybody starting at brain time 7:00 AM
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when you go to Smeaser board races, you might be in the first
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wave at 8:00 AM. And if you're.
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Having to get up. So you want to, you want to get
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your body ready to be able to get up and get food in and then
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go and do a warm up at a time in the morning that is reasonable
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to your body. If you're used to training at
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11:00 PM and then you're high ox races, supposedly 7:00 AM brain
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time, then it's not going to be as easy to do.
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So other things that get talked about a lot are things like carb
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loading. Yeah, now there's a bit of
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controversy between all levels, including the elites, about
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whether or not high rocks is something you should carb load
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for anyway. I don't know if you've got any
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opinions on that. I don't.
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Think you need to carb load. I would completely.
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Agree, I mean you need to be eating carbs to fuel your
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performance, but when the event is not going to be longer than
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90 minutes for a lot of people, especially at the the the top
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where you know carb loading is probably even more beneficial
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for like performance at the very very top.
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The top athletes are going through in like sub an hour.
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You don't need to carb load for probably anything that's shorter
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than 90 minutes. So yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't
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waste your time or effort necessarily on just trying to
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cram a load of carbs in and you end up doing it probably
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incorrectly getting to the race and just feeling full and
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bloated and fluffy and not really raring to go.
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So yeah, I don't think it's probably necessary.
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I think you're going to come to me with the science scene.
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Well, I was, I was, no, I was basically going to mention if
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you were doing carb loading and, and let's talk more generally
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then. So let's say you're doing
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something like a marathon or a slightly longer race, as you
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said is beyond that sort of 90 minute mark, you would typically
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want to start from two to three days out.
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Some start a little bit earlier to make it easier to get used to
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taking on that much. But you want to be having
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between 7 to 10 grams per kilogram per day.
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So I'll let you guys at home do the math.
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I'm not going to take all of your body weight, so I'm not
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going to ask that question before you work it out, but
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that's kind of the scale you want to be at.
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And the other thing that is important when it comes to
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saying you probably don't need to do it for Hyrox is that much
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carb is quite high in volume. And so if you are eating that
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and then you're trying to go into a high intensity workout,
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which includes a lot of functional movement, a lot of
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sort of, I mean you're throwing your body on the floor, you're
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jumping. In, but it's a lot of inertia.
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That whole thing can really upset your, your stomach, your
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general gastrointestinal system. So yeah, that's a that's a big
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thing is you don't necessarily use carb load for high risk
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training. But if you are going to do it 7
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to 10 grams, two to three days out per kilogram, sorry.
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Yeah, I think for for most people when you're carb loading,
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that's going to be specific probably to marathon running or
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like you say like a like a a longer endurance workout, maybe
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an Iron Man or a half Iron Man where the duration is closer to
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like 3 to 5 for an Iron Man then it's like 7 to 10 hours, maybe a
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little bit longer. So that's super important.
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I would probably suggest starting your carb load earlier
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than two to three days. You're looking probably the
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whole week leading up to it just so like you say, you can start
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to get used to the volume of food and your body can start to
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process that and and store the glycogen so you are ready to
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race when it comes around to it. Yeah, and and carb loading is
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definitely not a myth. It can improve, it can improve
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your time to exhaustion by 20 to 30% on average, which is massive
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when you think about it. So that's, that's one of the
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main ones that I think people do actually get wrong for this sort
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of thing is put too much emphasis on carb loading.
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Another thing which I find quite interesting is sodium.
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A lot of people we've spoken about electrolytes before think,
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well, I need to get my hydration up.
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I need to get as much sodium in as possible.
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So they start having loads of electrolytes in the days leading
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up. Now that is generally great, I
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would say for most people and we are probably not drinking enough
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water, but that's kind of where that stops, like we're probably
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not drinking enough water. Sodium you get still quite a lot
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from your diet, but a lot of people, especially in the day
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leading up to a higher ox might have 3-4 electrolyte sachets and
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they might not be paying too much attention of how much
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sodium is in each one. And sodium is the main thing,
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the main electrolyte you lose when you sweat.
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So for some people, depending on the intensity and depending on
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who you are, you lose between 400 milligrams to 2000
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milligrams per hour in sweat. 2000 is excessive.
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Yeah. But there will be people that
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are taking in, like I said, 4, maybe even five times that the
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day before in order to hydrate. And one of the key things, and
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I've definitely got this wrong before as well, is if you maybe
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you're doing a bit of carb loading, you feel a bit bloated
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the day before your race or you still feel thirsty even though
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you've been hydrating, you're just having too much sodium.
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That's one of the key signs. So some science again, if you
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want to know how much you should be having, 3 to 4G, so 3000 to
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4000 milligrams of salt in the 24 hours prior to your event is
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really the upper safe limit for an athlete.
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So you don't want to be crossing that.
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And that does mean you need to take into account what you're
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eating as well as what you're drinking.
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Well, you said it there. I think like you get a lot of
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the sodium from your diet and and probably more than you
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actually consider you actually intake through your diet.
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But another thing that I think is important because you do want
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to be on top of it, you do want to be like fully hydrated.
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If you're running a high rocks race, you're in a venue that's
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typically really hot. So you are going to be on the
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upper end of the scale of losing sweat.
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But again, like you're probably only working out for 90 minutes,
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an hour to 90 minutes. So is it the end of the world?
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No. But is it a good way to enhance
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your performance 100%? So it's one of those things to
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definitely consider. That's the thing, if you get it
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right, it's such, it's such a difference, such a difference.
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And you, you'll also notice it because you can have a really
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good performance and then you, you won't get a headache after.
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That's one of the biggest things I've always noticed.
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If I've not kicked sodium, yeah, then I'm feeling like I've got a
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crazy headache. Later on in the day.
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I feel that everything aches a bit more.
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But again, with the, if you're having slightly too much, well,
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the way your cells work is they're going to go and get that
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fluid from somewhere and if they can take it from a muscle that
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might not be using it, they're going to take it from that.
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They're going to take it from an organ.
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Again, I said that I was getting headaches.
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My brain was literally shriveled, shriveled up by the
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end of it because it was taking everything from where it could
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get. Then that's going to cause me
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issues in the race because I also then don't have the fluid
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to sweat out. In the same way, do you have a
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like a process or a structure leading up to a race and like
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when you feel, when you eat, when you drink, do you have
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timings or a little bit more flexible fluid?
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So yeah, if you'd asked me a year ago, no, not really.
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I think the main thing for me now is that in the days leading
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up to a competition I will definitely always have a bottle
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of water on me so I can constantly be sipping out is.
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It you who's just smashing muffins.
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I've done that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Like I. Also see a full sorrine so so.
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If I I get nervous and I find fueling quite hard around
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exercise so I try and make it as enjoyable as possible.
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Sure, and but. That's a really good tip
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actually. A whole loaf of sorrine is quite
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easy to eat actually, you don't need, you don't need the butter
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on anything. You can buy the block.
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And as soon as you buy into what looks like a really dry blocks.
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Lovely. Yeah, that's got 160 grams of
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carbs in it. For a whole block.
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For a whole block, and if we were talking about carb loading,
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I would only need to eat. For my body weight, I'd only
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need to eat 5 blocks a day. Only need to eat, which is easy.
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Yeah. So if I have one block of
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sorrine. And then what did I have in
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Cardiff, which was my bad fuelling time?
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I think I had three muffins. So I.
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Well, yeah, that I see. That's where I know it.
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From scientifically the right amount of carbs, but just wrong.
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Yeah, totally wrong timing wrong.
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So yeah, I mean, that's why I, I do that because I, I know that
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I'll always want to eat that. The other thing that we can come
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back to is what you do just before your race.
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So for those of you that have been at High Rocks events,
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marathons, pretty much any sporting event actually ever, if
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you go to the toilet before a competition starts, you know
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what you're in for. It's like Chernobyl basically,
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like it's mad it you can smell it from 100 meters away.
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The main cause of that I would say is caffeine maybe.
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So in terms of caffeine and taking caffeine in, this is
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another thing that I have probably underdone because I
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didn't really factor in my body weight, but you also need to
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factor in your caffeine sensitivity.
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So caffeine for you, something you've steer away from.
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Yes, in terms of like taking it as an actual like performance
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enhancer, even though I understand how beneficial it is,
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but that's just like a personal choice for me.
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I will have all depending on when I'm racing.
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I will have my normal dose of normal dose of caffeine.
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I will have coffee in the day that I'm racing, but I'm not
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using it as a performance enhancer, which can be very
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beneficial. There's lots of people that I
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know will eradicate it from their diet the week or weeks
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leading up to it, so their sensitivity to it is slightly
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higher. So it has more of an impact on
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the date. Because when you think about it,
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if you're drinking lots of coffee every single day, whether
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that's for performance or not, or just like general lifestyle,
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your body reacts to it slightly less.
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Than it would if you didn't have it in your diet.
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So lots of people will remove it and then add it back in for race
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day. And as a result, they're a bit
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more sensitive and they get a bit more from it.
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Well, around a similar time to us talking about tapering I we
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had a guest episode. We've got Phil from Human 24 who
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is an expert in all theaters. It's a really good episode to
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listen to and understand this a bit more.
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But one of the main things that I remember him saying about
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caffeine is it is a performance enhancing drug that is legal.
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It can do a number of things. It increases the level at which
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your heart rate can go to and rise to, which is good in terms
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of a normal aerobic sense. So sort of pushing that
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boundary. One of the downsides is you can
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increase your anxious response. Yeah, I was going to say, So
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that's something if you are a person that gets anxious.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that can kind of put you
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into the the wrong side of yeah, nerves or as our friend from
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That's Monday podcast podcast would say, arousal stimulation.
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Stimulation, but then the other thing is also to consider the
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half life of caffeine, which is 1 when you're having it in your
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training, you do need to consider that the half life is,
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I believe it's actually like 10 hours, which is why a lot of
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people say I won't have caffeine posted after like 2:00 PM, which
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is genuinely it makes a massive difference in your sleep and it
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won't necessarily affect how quickly you get to sleep.
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It's just the sleep quality. When it comes to your
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competition, though, you also need to think about that in
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terms of a lot of people will have their energy drink or
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whatever they're having for caffeine while they're in the
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warm up area. And the prime time to really
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have it. So it kind of kicks in is an
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hour before, Sure. And a lot of people say, oh, no,
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no, it kicks in for me like 30 minutes before.
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It's like it might do, but it's not going anywhere.
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Where it's also like that's your what you're experiencing there
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is like the sensation rather than like the actual
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physiological response that your body's having, which needs
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probably longer. So you're getting the
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stimulation, you're like, OK, I'm buzzing now.
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I feel good to go. But actually you need a little
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bit longer for the full effect to happen in the muscles rather
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than the, the like the chemical makeup in your brain basically.
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Exactly. And like like if if you consider
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this into a whole pre warm up routine, which we'll we'll get
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to in a moment, it's best to have the energy drink away,
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especially if it's carbonated. Get it, get it down.
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You gotta go and let it do it's thing.
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Maybe you feel half an hour before, Oh, I can feel it
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working out great. It's not going to go anywhere
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for the next 9 1/2 hours. So like chill out.
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It's going to do it's long, it's going to do it's job.
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So that's that's one thing. And then kind of touching back
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into the carb side here, because a lot of people will use
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caffeinated gels, it is a good idea to to have some sort of
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carb before you start. So typically you would still
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want to have a relatively carb dense foot like meal before your
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your race. So talking 200 grams is a pretty
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broad general thing. But if you aim to sort of 200
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grams in a meal 3 to 4 hours before your race, but you still
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want to top it up maybe with a gel, that's 25 to 30 grams of
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carbs before your race, just so you've got that immediate store.
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Yeah. So with my clients, what I
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typically suggest like the timeline is we're having our
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last meal at least two hours before you race, which if you've
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got, and you said it there, if you've got like the 8:00 AM
19:50
start time or the 7:00 AM start time, you're eating really,
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really early, which is really tough.
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So that wants to be, let's just say we are working out in the in
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the morning. You want that morning meal to be
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as close to your regular breakfast as as you'd have on a
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day-to-day. Maybe with slightly higher carb
20:06
intake just so you have a little bit more glycogen reserved for
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the actual race, but you have that minimum 2 hours before
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we're then probably going to eat at least two more times between
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that and actually starting the race.
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So your next meal was probably, let's say, 45 minutes before you
20:21
start the race. So you've had a little bit of a
20:23
chance to digest your main meal, but now you're having something
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super carby. So I like to use like squares
20:30
bars or something similar, which is very high in sugar and it's
20:32
very high GI. So it's very quick to get into
20:36
the bloodstream. And then 10 minutes before
20:38
erasing. So literally just as we're going
20:40
into the tunnel, that's when you're having your last bit of
20:43
sugar intake or carb. So that's when for me
20:46
personally, I'd have a gel. But other people have sweets or
20:49
jellies or something that's just very quick to digest, very easy
20:52
to get down, and then you're ready to go.
20:54
So some anecdotal advice on that as well.
20:57
I do typically go for a gel, but I absolutely make sure it's not
21:01
the last thing I have before I go into the tunnel because I
21:03
also sometimes with nerves, I find that I don't get clammy
21:07
palms. I don't get anything like that.
21:08
I get dry now. And so I definitely don't want
21:11
to have something like a gel that can make my mouth feel even
21:14
stickier unless I'm I've got the ability to immediately wash it
21:17
down with something. And that's also the other reason
21:19
I wouldn't go for something like a, a squares bar necessarily
21:21
right before because it again could dry my mouth.
21:23
That's why I have to be quite conscious of that.
21:25
I think like and that's, that's a that's a good tip.
21:27
If if we continue talking about high rocks, like in the warm up
21:30
area, there are, there is water available to you.
21:35
So like you don't have to worry about taking a bottle in and
21:37
leaving it like you can. You can get water in the warm up
21:39
zone. So I'll have my gel and make
21:41
sure that's washed down with water.
21:44
But if you're worried about not having access to water in in the
21:47
warm up area, just take like a plastic bottle or something that
21:50
you can just Chuck away. Not that I advocate single use
21:53
plastic, but take in or like a Leucasate sport or something
21:56
like that that you can just sip on across the warm up and then
21:59
you can Chuck it away, don't have to worry about it, and then
22:01
you're good to go. I know there are actually some
22:03
events, and this is including high rocks, but not all the
22:06
time, that don't let you take a bottle into the warm up area.
22:09
So in that situation, you've got to deal with those little
22:11
shortcuts. I would say #1 you can get
22:14
carried away or even worried about having too many of them
22:17
because they don't feel like you're drinking anything.
22:18
Make sure when you're having those, you're swelling them
22:20
around your mouth because sometimes you get dry mouth and
22:22
you have a drink and it doesn't help your mouth because it's
22:24
gone straight down your throat. Sure, make sure you're kind of
22:26
getting that swelled, clearing out any of the sort of saliva
22:30
that you've just built up from doing a good warm up and get rid
22:33
of that. And then you can go in and, and
22:35
not feel like you've suddenly taken on a kilogram of water,
22:38
which you don't want to take around.
22:40
There's a few more things that I wanted to touch on really
22:42
quickly, which I don't think you really need to be considering
22:46
for a SIM, but you could try again.
22:48
So one of the most sort of trendy things which we've done a
22:53
lot of times is beetroot juice and nitrates.
22:56
So, so nitrates is another thing that I discussed on that episode
22:58
with film. It's another performance
23:01
enhancer. They do.
23:03
They are proven scientifically to make a difference, and they
23:06
do work. But again, there's kind of an
23:09
asterisk with it because it really makes a difference to
23:12
your performance. But it's probably only worth
23:15
putting yourself through. I mean, it's not, It's not that
23:17
bad. It's probably only worth putting
23:18
yourself through if you know that everything else is dialed
23:22
in. Dialed in, yeah.
23:23
Well, that's the same with everything and any any
23:25
supplementation you're going to do on top of your diet.
23:28
If you're sat at home eating oven pizzas and meal deals all
23:31
day long, there's probably room or scope for improvement on your
23:34
actual diet to get more out of in terms of like a quality
23:38
nutrient dense diet that's going to help improve your performance
23:41
rather than just turning and going, I'm going to supplement
23:44
now because that's what everyone else is doing.
23:46
Sort your diet out, make sure that's and the nuts and bolts of
23:49
your diet are really good. Make sure your sleep and
23:51
recovery is really good and then you can start.
23:53
Layering, layering, layering and then it's like that the small
23:56
things before you start thinking about bicarb and nitrate loading
23:59
etcetera, etcetera. So one of the things I was going
24:01
to say, if you are going to try the the whole nitrates thing, I
24:04
think we've probably discussed it before, but you have the
24:06
option of buying the shots which come in.
24:09
So you get 400 milligrams which is in in one of those shots,
24:12
which is typically fine for most people.
24:15
Again, depending on your body weight, I would.
24:17
Look, I am their top customer. So you can have that and that
24:21
obviously is a very easy way of getting it in and down.
24:23
It does. It does not taste very nice at
24:25
all. If you want to go to an
24:26
alternative method which is slightly cheaper, you can go and
24:29
get beetroot juice and have it straight from the source.
24:31
You can get the coarse to impress one which has got a
24:33
little bit of apple juice in it, which helps, but you need to be
24:35
having about half a litre of that which is a pint.
24:38
I actually don't mind the course to impress one.
24:40
I've kind of got used to it, but you have to be aware there is a
24:43
much greater volume that you need to intake and you need to
24:47
be aware of the side effects. If you're going to start doing
24:50
this, you probably want to do 7 to 5 days out of your your
24:53
competition. In that time, things that come
24:56
out the other end are going to be bright red.
24:59
That is normal unless there's something else going on with
25:02
you, but generally speaking it's normal.
25:04
So don't get freaked out when you see that too freaked out.
25:08
Then other things that I've I've written down that people take
25:13
sometimes through their training but before a race.
25:15
Creatine. You don't need to change it.
25:16
No. If you're already taking it,
25:18
keep taking it. On that note, I'll just say
25:21
that's the out of anything that we've discussed there, that's
25:25
the one thing that I would recommend taking in your
25:27
training. Everyone's routine, just
25:29
everyone. And there's, there's so much now
25:31
coming out about brain function and brain performance and the
25:34
actual dosage that you need to be taking is probably five times
25:37
the amount recommended. But again, that's unsolicited.
25:40
I'll let you do your own research on that.
25:42
But it's such a fantastic supplement that everyone or
25:45
anyone, whether you train or not, should be, should be
25:48
taking. And a quick one on that, if you
25:49
aren't already aware, your body already naturally produces it,
25:53
so you're not giving it anything that it doesn't already know
25:55
about. It's not like something that has
25:57
just been cooked up in a lab that we're saying to take.
25:59
Your body already gets it from food, mainly from, I mean beef
26:03
products have a large amount of it in, but we don't get enough
26:06
of it in our in our diet, especially in ultra processed
26:08
food. So creatine is a great thing to
26:10
be taking The next thing you touched on it already, Bicarb.
26:15
Yeah, Bicarb's super powerful, super, super powerful in both
26:18
sensors of the world. You've got to be sensible and
26:20
like actually really be on it with your dosage.
26:23
There is an art form to it. It tastes disgusting.
26:26
I've tried to put a tiny tiny amount in porridge to see how
26:29
much it tastes and it it doesn't.
26:30
I don't think it tastes like soap, it just tastes like acid.
26:33
You'll know if you've ever made pancakes with bicarb and you
26:36
haven't mixed it properly. You can taste it.
26:39
Yeah. You, you kind of need to mix it.
26:41
Morton is one of the companies. There's another company called
26:44
Fly Carb or their bicarb packets, which basically do the
26:47
same thing. And it's immersed in an
26:49
electrolyte gel, which helps you break it down as it goes in.
26:52
But even then, like, there's still a very.
26:56
I do like the idea of someone else doing the dosage for you
27:00
rather than you experimenting at home.
27:02
Yeah. And when we say like, it's very
27:04
powerful. It can be explosive at one end
27:06
and also cause crazy stomach cramps.
27:09
Sure. And if you really do it wrong,
27:10
hospitalize yourself. It's very, it's very popular in
27:13
in long endurance sports like cycling.
27:16
But when you, when you think about the professionals who are
27:19
cycling, they have a team nutritionist and I've seen
27:22
Doctor Who are helping figure out dosage, etcetera, etcetera.
27:25
But talk about like the benefits of bicarb.
27:28
Yeah, well, I mean the, the benefit is mainly being that it
27:33
increases the efficiency of your aerobic system in terms of
27:37
flushing out well waste product. Yeah.
27:39
Waste products are dealing with lactate along that which then
27:42
just allows you to perform a little bit longer, increase the
27:45
efficiency of the oxygen in your muscles.
27:46
Very similar to what the nitrate loading is doing as well.
27:49
Exactly two more things that are actually pretty common that
27:53
hierarchy athletes take is beta alanine, that's the thing that
27:57
makes you itch and pre workouts and citrulline malate, both
28:02
similar effects to bicarb, less so but just aid in your body's
28:08
efficiency and moving the blood around and the more shaped blood
28:10
and dealing with lactate at different levels so you can play
28:14
with those. Yeah, they are readily
28:15
available, all of them, various different price points,
28:18
especially things like the bicarb because they're doing all
28:20
the dosing for you. It's a lot more expensive.
28:23
But if those are things that you think, you know what my training
28:26
is dialled, I've really worked on my sleep, I want to give some
28:28
of these things a go. Absolutely give them a go.
28:31
Look up the time that you think is good for you to load based on
28:34
how your body processes things and how much you need based on
28:38
your body weight. And then absolutely give them a
28:41
go and see how they perform in a SIM before you turn up and size
28:44
it the week before your ice. I'd also just caveat all of
28:47
that. It's like if you're struggling
28:48
to find good information or credible and information on how
28:52
to take it, when to take it, what dosage, then just speak to
28:56
a nutritionist. Yeah, I'll be more than happy to
28:59
help and get some. Seek some actual professional
29:01
advice rather than two idiots on a podcast.
29:03
Yeah, fair enough. Well, the two idiots.
29:05
On the podcast are going to move on to the next Wait, hang on.
29:07
I was I I just remembered the game because I thought about
29:09
when you're talking about electrolytes.
29:11
And this is completely off topic, but I think it's really,
29:13
really funny. And I'm going to name no names,
29:15
but one of one of my friends who I bumped into the other day, he
29:18
was talking about the price and the cost of all of these
29:21
supplements and electrolytes. So what he did, he took a very
29:25
popular brand of electrolytes and just read the ingredients
29:28
list off the back and then went online and bought all the raw
29:32
ingredients for what you need to to make electrolytes.
29:36
So what then happened was however many bags of KG of white
29:41
powder just arrived on his doorstep.
29:44
He doesn't live in the UK, he was just in the UK at the time
29:46
when he ordered it. And then he was then travelling
29:49
to where he does live. So he's walking through the
29:52
airport with a big bag just full of white powder.
29:56
And yeah, I asked him how it went and he said yeah.
29:59
No one stopped me, no one searched me.
30:00
We're all good. It's great.
30:01
Yeah. When I went to When Was it
30:03
Barcelona? This year, I had individual IKEA
30:07
Ziploc bags of Citrine Malay beta alanine.
30:10
I even took some sodium bicarb just to mess around with.
30:13
Not a good idea. Not even checked.
30:16
Nothing. Also, when we went to Nice for
30:18
World Champs, and again, I won't name names, but someone who was
30:21
racing had forgotten about his his Morton gels that he had in
30:24
his hand luggage. And obviously I got flags when
30:27
it went through the X-ray and pulled to one side and we're all
30:29
waiting there like, oh, there's always one guy who forgets to
30:32
check his hand luggage and the security guy is going through it
30:35
and he'd stuffed all his Morton gels in a water bottle and the
30:38
guy's pulling them out. And obviously the Morton gels
30:40
are expensive. And this guy, he was like, he
30:43
looked like Puss in Boots, just like big wide eyes, like, please
30:47
don't throw my gels away, please.
30:49
Can I take them, please? He's like, explain I've got high
30:51
rocks world champs. I need these gels.
30:53
They're so expensive. And the guy was just like, yeah,
30:55
all right, take him. Yeah, that.
30:57
That because now, because now in a lot of places they don't even
31:01
make you put everything in like a vault, no.
31:03
They they've increased the amount you can take through.
31:05
Is there anyway? Yeah, yeah, we don't need to
31:08
talk about. That although one last point,
31:11
don't for the reason that you know they don't and they're not
31:13
going to pull out this plastic bag or you need to separate
31:15
them. Don't put them at the bottom of
31:17
your bag. Oh yeah.
31:17
Because when you do get stopped, yeah.
31:19
That's that's actually unpackable.
31:20
That's another huge pro tip that I tell all of my clients who are
31:24
travelling for high rocks. If you're taking hold luggage
31:27
and hand luggage, pack your freaking carbons and your race
31:30
day kit in your hand luggage. Because if they lose your whole,
31:34
so true, and you get to the race, like start of the race and
31:37
you haven't got carbons, you haven't got any of your race
31:38
kit, Just put all of the stuff that you actually need to race
31:40
in in your hand. Luggage.
31:42
Another thing, if you're travelling with two hand
31:44
luggages, split all of your fluids across the two of them.
31:47
So many times I've packed it all into one and they're like, you
31:49
can't do that. And I'm like, I've got another
31:50
bag. Watch this.
31:51
Yeah, we're moving on to kind of what you do on race day.
31:58
So warm ups have always been a thing that I think people
32:01
misunderstand. You have, I've got 2 quotes, got
32:05
one from you, which is think about it like warming an engine
32:08
up on a cold day. I really like that.
32:11
The next one is actually a quote from a study.
32:14
OK. So I'm going to do not from me
32:16
not not from you actually, unless your surname was formerly
32:19
Burnley. But Burnley ET al from the 2005
32:23
Journal of Applied Physiology found that performing a heavy
32:26
warm up bout before exercise speeds up VO2 kinetics, which is
32:30
oxygen uptake response. It reduces reliance on anaerobic
32:34
metabolism and improves tolerance to severe intensity
32:37
exercise. In some cases, time to
32:39
exhaustion was extended by 15 to 20%, which again as a percentage
32:45
of your performance and ability is massive.
32:48
But I said severe intensity there.
32:51
And that's really true. Yeah, for sure.
32:53
So. Warm ups people, typically
32:56
events that I have noticed, especially if I've been filming
32:58
them, I'll say, look, I don't want to get in the way of your
33:00
warm up. So I'll meet you 40 minutes
33:03
before outside the warm up area because I think 40 minutes is
33:05
typically what I would spend. That allows me to go through
33:07
some mobility, slowly build up and we'll talk about the actual
33:11
process and women. But yeah, a lot of people will
33:14
turn up, bag drop 10 minutes before, walk straight through
33:17
the tunnel. They don't want to waste their
33:18
energy before the race. I think there's, I like this
33:20
because there's lots to to unpick here, but basically your
33:24
quote from Bernie ET al in 2005 that applied Physiology journals
33:28
like super good for any sort of just information around training
33:32
and and etcetera, etcetera. But what that saying is exactly
33:36
the same as my quote of it's like warming an engine up on a
33:39
cold day. Not just that simplified because
33:43
I say that to all of the members who come to my classes or who I
33:45
coach and who I train with. If you're not doing a really
33:49
effective warm up, you're losing out on so that that's a
33:51
performance enhancer in itself. And it's like you jump in the
33:55
car and it's such an easy analogy and it's frosty outside
33:57
and it's cold. You get in the car, it's all
33:59
cold. If you turn it on, if you start
34:02
revving the shit out of the engine, something's going to go,
34:05
maybe not then, but later down the line.
34:07
So you wait for oil temperature to rise, You just wait for the
34:10
engine temperature to rise and then it's good to go.
34:13
And it's exactly the same thing when you do a race, whether
34:15
that's high rocks, whether you're going for a run or you're
34:19
racing an actual running race. When I'm at doesn't matter.
34:22
What I think a lot of the time with high rocks is the warm up
34:27
area is like filled with testosterone and it's just like
34:30
ego measuring contest. And it's like people strutting
34:34
around with their chests out and like who's going to be the
34:36
fight? And it doesn't matter because
34:37
you're not racing them. You're racing the clock at the
34:38
end of the day. But as a result, the warm up
34:41
area is a hostile place to be and that's where you get the
34:44
most nerves. So it's like, I can understand
34:47
why you don't want to spend a long time in the warm up area,
34:49
but if you're not in the warm up area for long enough, then
34:52
you're just killing yourself from kind of step one of the
34:56
race. So one of the things that I
34:58
think is important is a lot of people, as we've said, are
35:02
scared to waste their energy for the race.
35:04
And I would say the people that I've just said drop their bags
35:08
10 minutes before, go straight into the tunnel versus the
35:11
people that have warmed up appropriately do the exact same
35:13
thing for the 10 minutes prior to their race.
35:15
And that's not a lot like 10 minutes before you really ease
35:19
off the intensity. But the total difference that's
35:22
happened, like I said, is you would typically start off your
35:26
warm up. Well, this is what I would do.
35:27
And actually this would be interesting if you told me what
35:28
I'm doing wrong. But a lot of this was actually
35:30
learned from you. So we'll see if I've adapted too
35:33
far and got down my own thing. But part of it is being able to
35:36
replicate something that feels good and you might have done in
35:38
previous workouts so that mentally, you know, you're ready
35:40
to go. For me, what that looks like is
35:43
I'm going to go in, I'm going to sit on a bike for 3K, which is
35:48
about a source, I don't know, 6 1/2 minutes at the sort of pace.
35:52
I'm just getting some blood through my lower body and then
35:54
going to come off the bike and I'm going to start doing some
35:57
dynamic stretches. So I'm not necessarily going to
35:59
be static. I'm going to still be moving.
36:01
If there's anything that I've had niggles wise or kind of
36:03
concerns about things that do get tight, I might do some
36:05
static stretching, but I don't try and stay in those positions
36:07
too long. Once I've done that, I might
36:10
start doing some reduced weight movements and so I'm kind of
36:15
getting the blood flow. I might do a few burpees, I
36:17
might do a few body weight lunges, that sort of thing just
36:20
to make sure that I'm feeling smooth.
36:22
I typically don't touch the sleds.
36:24
Interesting. I'm not that bothered about
36:26
them. At that point I'll probably go
36:28
over to a ski ogre or rowing machine and I'll do a bit of a
36:32
build up and I'll start with perceived slow effort for a
36:37
minute, a slightly increased effort for 45 seconds, and then
36:41
a harder effort for 30 seconds. Back off and I'll go through
36:44
that two, maybe 3 times and then what I'll do, provided that
36:48
there's one available, I actually sit back on a bike and
36:50
I will get my legs turning over what I want my running speed to
36:53
be for the next sort of 5 minutes.
36:55
I'll have my gel and then I'll chill out and just do anything
36:58
else I need for my nerves. OK, interesting.
37:00
Do you ever go on the treadmill? Again, it's very dependent on if
37:04
the bike is available. I prefer to be on the bike
37:07
because I feel like I can control what I'm doing a lot
37:09
more. The running side of things on
37:11
the treadmill and this is again quite specific to high rocks.
37:15
I can't remember if if the treadmills are centre.
37:18
Or. Treadmills suck.
37:20
They never work. It's like as soon as I touch
37:22
them, I don't want to say I'm like really heavy, but I feel
37:25
like I'm stuck with my foot for a split second or it slides.
37:28
And so I'd rather not be thinking about my running like
37:30
that. I'd rather just sit on a bike we
37:31
know and love. That's fair.
37:33
Because just before I, I, I get into that warm up a little bit
37:36
more. But look at professional
37:38
athletes, you look at someone doing the Tour de France,
37:42
they're on their turbo, I don't know how long before the race,
37:45
but they're on there for a long time.
37:47
If they're doing a time trial, you know, I watched the whole
37:50
time trial. If they're the top guys, they go
37:52
last in the time trial. They're pretty much on the bike
37:55
for the entirety of the time trial before they even then
37:58
race. So that's got to be like an hour
38:00
minimum post race as well. They jump back on the bike and
38:03
I'm like, you've been cycling then for like 8-9 hours in the
38:06
day and only five or six of those hours were actually the
38:09
race. Same for marathon runners.
38:11
They're running kilometers before they do their actual
38:14
rates, which is mental. And I know that's a capacity
38:16
thing and they're at the top of their sport, but everyone needs
38:18
to be doing a relatively decent warm up to their ability.
38:23
But I think your warm up especially has all of the
38:25
components that I look at as a really effective warm up.
38:29
And I use the anagram ramp, raise, activate, mobilize,
38:33
potentiate, and the P, the potentiate or prepare.
38:36
That's a better way to think about it.
38:37
That's the more specific stuff now, the raise and the raise,
38:41
that's your heart rate, that's your body temperature.
38:43
You're doing that by sitting on the bike for 3K.
38:45
Some people prefer to do the mobilize and activate first, so
38:49
you can switch that and make it mop.
38:51
So you might do mobilize, activate, then raise, but when
38:55
it's something really low impact and low aerobic like a bike
38:59
effort, it's easy enough to start with that.
39:01
So if we want to keep it specific to high rocks and
39:04
warming up for a high rocks race, I'd definitely jump on the
39:06
bike first. Just get the heart rates going.
39:09
The only other thing to think about logistics wise, just like
39:12
warm up admin, there's not always that many bytes and it's
39:16
very hard to not be British and polite and like, I know you go,
39:21
you go, you have the bike, I'll wait.
39:23
You've got to have your elbows out in the warm up zone and
39:25
you've got to like own it and not get bullied because it's
39:28
very easy to get bullied in the warm up zone.
39:30
And if people are like standing around you and like huffing and
39:32
puffing because you've been on it a long time, that's their
39:35
problem. They can go and find another
39:36
machine. You've got to be selfish in the
39:37
warm up area if you want a good warm up.
39:39
So ideally you start on a bike. If not then I'd go for a rowing
39:42
machine as a good alternative and you want to sit on those
39:45
for, I was going to say probably 5 minutes.
39:47
You're doing a little bit longer, which is OK, but
39:49
probably somewhere around 5 minutes.
39:51
Just super easy starting to get the, I call it the juices
39:54
flowing, but that's letting the engine start exactly warming up
39:57
the oil temperature. Then you're doing your
39:59
activation stuff. That's going to be slightly
40:02
different for everyone. I've got lots of specific ones,
40:05
my glutes and my hips and my lower back to make sure I'm
40:07
feeling good. But there's lots of good ones
40:09
you can do. And a really good tip, if you
40:12
can take a band into the warm up zone because there's there's no
40:16
bands in the warm up area. If you have like a theraband or
40:18
some sort of band that you can use for hip and glute
40:21
activation, do it. The only problem is you have to
40:23
then find someone before throw the band out.
40:26
Yeah, yeah. If you're on your first lap,
40:28
Chuck out of the pocket or find someone just before you go into
40:31
the tunnel to give that to or hide in the warm up area or do
40:34
something like or just whatever. Yeah, but having a band is
40:38
really, really helpful. There's other exercises you can
40:41
do if you don't have a band, but that's one of my top tips is try
40:44
and have a band when you go into the warm up area.
40:46
Then you've got your mobilizing stuff, which is a little bit of
40:48
stretching. But like you do, I'd keep this
40:50
really dynamic and keep moving and keep it really specific to
40:53
the movements that you're doing in the actual race.
40:55
So whether you're doing world's greatest stretch, it's nice to
40:58
get the rotation through the upper back, but it's also a
41:00
lunge position. So you're starting to open up
41:02
the hips and the lower back a little bit as well.
41:04
The one thing that I would do differently is that the P, the
41:07
potential kind of the prepare for the race.
41:09
This is the really specific bit. That's when I would probably get
41:12
on the sled and just like start. And again, it's specific.
41:15
And if you don't for you the sleds no issue because it's
41:18
light. For me, I know the sleds I don't
41:20
know very that far lighter relative.
41:23
For me the sleds are sticky points.
41:25
So I want to feel the movement pattern and make sure I've had
41:27
to play around with it. And that's a confidence build
41:30
for me. It's like I need to push the
41:32
said. It's going to feel easy.
41:33
I go into that part of the warm up with a really positive mental
41:37
attitude, push it for a little bit, don't tie my legs out too
41:40
much, but go all right. The said's going to move well
41:42
for me today. See, the reason I don't do that
41:44
is just in case that doesn't happen, it's because I've been
41:47
to too many races. And I know this has been a
41:48
consistent thing that we've always spoken about and everyone
41:50
speaks about in in hire specifically, but every single
41:53
lane feels different. And the number of times I have
41:57
done the sled in the warm up and then done the sled in the raves
42:02
and it felt so different. And what can be really bad, it
42:05
is I my brain only works negatively around that.
42:08
So if I push the sled in the warm up area and it feels light,
42:11
I'm like, it's going to be heavy, it's going to be heavier
42:13
than that. This is, this is tough.
42:16
If I push the sled and it feels heavy, I'm immediately like,
42:18
shit, this is heavy. Yeah.
42:20
So that is a cat. I don't let it get in my head
42:23
because I don't touch. It and that's fine that's that's
42:25
then for me justification enough for you to not have to push the
42:28
sled like ideally in your training you'll have done and
42:30
that's my point as well because I know I can move I still.
42:32
Hear or not move. Yeah, I still hear horror
42:34
stories of people being like, oh, the first time I pull the
42:36
sled is in the warm up area. That's so true for me as well.
42:39
That's like my very. First race was the first time.
42:40
Yeah, exactly. It's like, how is that?
42:42
But I think that this this sport has evolved now on people are a
42:45
bit more experienced and there's access in gyms to pull sleds a
42:48
little bit more now. The only other thing that I
42:50
would also do differently from your warm up to my warm up is
42:54
once you've done all of your protocol, you then hop back on
42:57
the bike and just keep the legs spinning, which is great for
42:59
keeping blood flow and keeping you warm and keeping you ready.
43:03
But for me, it's basically right before I go to the tunnel that I
43:08
spike my heart rate to its highest point.
43:11
Because what I'm thinking about doing is, and this is, this is
43:13
the same analogy with the engine warming up.
43:16
I want my heart rate to be at least as high as it's going to
43:19
be in the race as it is in the warm up.
43:22
Because what that does is it kind of just prepares the body.
43:26
This is not the the official Physiology, but it prepares the
43:29
body for the effort. So it's like you've opened up
43:31
the lungs, you've got the heart beating, you've got the blood
43:33
pumping as a really basic way of thinking about it to the point
43:37
that it's going to be in the race, maybe not quite as high
43:40
and obviously not sustained for the amount of time as it will be
43:43
in the race. But so I get on the skiag
43:47
ideally because that's a good one to get my heart rate going.
43:50
It's very easy. And typically there's one
43:52
available and I'll do some efforts in some capacity, but my
43:56
efforts are much shorter than what you were doing.
43:58
So you're doing minute 4530. I'll probably do like 15
44:02
seconds, like RIP the handles off it and then like 45 seconds
44:06
Modra a couple of times until I can feel my heart rate until I'm
44:10
breathing. I want to feel that breathing.
44:11
I want to feel sweaty. So that's my other thing.
44:13
In the warm up area, we do the sweat check.
44:15
Make sure you're sweaty in the warm up area.
44:17
And that's the thing that people are petrified of.
44:19
Yeah, because they're like, I've used all my energy in the warm
44:22
up zone. I'm like, no, you're all good.
44:24
Yeah, you want to feel like that.
44:26
Honestly it makes such a big difference.
44:27
If you're not warming up effectively and you start
44:30
warming up properly, skyrocket your performance instantly.
44:33
Big time. And I think one thing that I
44:35
would give is a massive piece of advice here is I find it
44:37
interesting some of the differences that we have if you
44:40
and I, and it probably is going to happen.
44:43
Did a double SI think the difference between US and maybe
44:45
some of the people that might be listening to this is we would
44:48
fuck off like you would do your I would do your OK.
44:51
What you don't want to do is get caught in the trap of my
44:54
partner's doing this. So I'm going to do that with
44:55
them. If it's not your warm up and you
44:57
don't know it works for you, it doesn't.
44:59
Work. It's really funny because I've
45:00
gone into the warm up area when I've done double S before and
45:03
that that we've walked in together the next time I see
45:06
them and they're in the tunnel. Yeah.
45:07
We haven't even coordinated going to the tunnel.
45:09
It's like, I know I want to be in the tunnel for X amount of
45:12
minutes. They want to be in the tunnel
45:13
for X amount of minutes. I'll just meet you there.
45:15
Yeah. That's and that's exactly it.
45:17
And I think that is also a race experience thing as well.
45:19
But I think that's a common flaw is the people get so caught up
45:22
and maybe get caught up in the nose because they stick around
45:25
their partner, they talk through all the race tactics beforehand
45:27
and you're not actually warming up.
45:29
You're now just stressing and you basically want to go in.
45:32
You want to be like, done. My warm up ticked all those
45:33
boxes. Now it's race time.
45:35
There's my partner, little fist bump off.
45:38
I think also as well, don't fall into the trap of getting into
45:41
the tunnel too soon because people go in like as soon as the
45:46
wave before them's gone, they're in the tunnel and it's not,
45:48
you're staying there for like 10 minutes.
45:50
Yeah. And it's just, it's not
45:53
conducive. You then your body temperature's
45:55
lowering, your heart rate's lowering, and you're just
45:57
standing there just stressing because it is really stimulating
46:01
environment. That's a stressful place to be
46:02
if you've never been in the tunnel before.
46:05
So yeah, don't go too early. And I've, I've forced, well,
46:09
Hugh, who obviously works with you on Rockstar, so I've, I've
46:13
done a double s with you and I forced him to actually start
46:15
late because it was in London when it was the last chance
46:18
qualifiers for the men's league 15 double s.
46:20
And I wanted to watch who won. So I was peeking through the
46:23
back of the warm up area and I heard the big noise.
46:25
I was like, and I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait.
46:29
They're on like 98, Watch them go.
46:31
And then we went out there. That was nice because the whole
46:33
time I wasn't thinking about my race I was doing.
46:35
That would be really stressful. For me, I wouldn't like that.
46:38
We wouldn't do that when we race together, right?
46:40
Well, I think that was a good lead up to to the event that
46:44
we're hosting. So again, try and take what
46:46
we've given you there and apply that because on the day we'll
46:50
obviously be there, we can help you out with little things, but
46:52
we would rather you turned up and got on with what works for
46:54
you. Maybe consider those things to
46:56
try and your warm up if you haven't already and then you can
46:59
get in and and have a you've. Got to, you've got to use that.
47:01
That's what the simulation is. It's like practice.
47:03
It's like you're a football team.
47:04
You train in the week and then you, you, you play your match on
47:07
the weekend. This is practice.
47:08
This is where you're practicing different moves or like corners
47:11
or free kicks, that kind of thing.
47:13
Maybe try a different pacing strategy, try some different
47:15
things. Play around with it.
47:16
Like you say, interfuelling. We didn't even discuss that, but
47:19
if you want to have gels during, try it.
47:21
See exactly. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't.
47:23
And I actually sort of avoided that as a topic because I know
47:26
there's a but a lot of people think of one way and I have
47:29
tried multiple different things and I, through just process of
47:31
elimination, have found what I rely on.
47:34
But yeah, it's very personal and very specific to you.
47:37
But that's why the simulation's so good.
47:39
It's because it's going to help you figure out what works best
47:42
for you. Exactly.
47:44
Now we need to move on to the next part of the podcast, which
47:48
is the Grind My Gears part. So I'll let you start this week.
47:53
What has been grinding your gears or what have you had
47:55
submitted? You know what, I've, I've had a
47:58
pretty, pretty low key week where I haven't actually had
48:01
that many things annoy me. And it's funny that we were
48:04
mentioning the airport so much earlier because one of my grind
48:07
my gears is when people go through the airport and there's
48:11
two pain points for me. You know, the travelators, the
48:14
long travelators and then escalators by the stairs.
48:17
It really grinds my gears when people use those two things.
48:22
You're about to sit on the plane or you've just got off the plane
48:25
and this is it really grinded my gears when I was going to New
48:29
Zealand. And we've sat on the plane for
48:30
17 hours. And then you see the flight of
48:33
stairs and I'm like, that thing's glowing.
48:35
Like I want to get up those stairs.
48:37
I'm going to double step those stairs because I've been sat
48:39
down for so long. And people just mill off to the
48:41
side and go up the escalator. I'm like, move your body.
48:44
Like move your legs. Come on.
48:46
So travel later, I'll use. But you'll walk on it.
48:50
I'm walking on it. Yeah, I was about to say,
48:51
there's no way I'm standing still on that thing.
48:53
No. Surely, surely the people you're
48:55
with, one's on the travel later. One's not a new race.
48:57
Oh, I used to do that as a kid all the time.
48:59
Oh yeah, yeah. When I was a kid, yeah.
49:00
Yeah, I. Mean don't get me wrong I'm
49:02
always racing if the travel later is too busy yeah and I'm
49:05
walking I'm beating everybody that's going away on the travel
49:07
always even if I have to do not I.
49:09
Don't know, we're racing. Oh, we're racing.
49:11
Yeah, there's never a new outside.
49:13
Just use the stairs. Escalator.
49:15
I would use it if it's empty but otherwise 100% but.
49:17
You standing on the escalator? When you walk, I'll walk up
49:21
there. So OK, this isn't exclusive to
49:23
the to the to the airport, it's tube stations as well.
49:27
I always I think I'll. Walk up the escalator.
49:31
Yeah, yeah. But there's, yeah, I'll walk
49:34
down the escalator as well. But if there's a lift, I always
49:38
take the fire stairs, fire, fire exit.
49:40
I agree apart from there's one station in London, someone and
49:44
someone listened to this. One of the exact station there's
49:46
a station in London is at Highgate that's got.
49:47
Most steps 300 and something, yeah.
49:49
Because I knew about. I did that recently by accident.
49:52
Yeah, and and it will remain. But the problem is because my
49:55
local tube station, it's 79 steps or 179 steps, and I do
50:00
that pretty much daily. And then I got to Highgate and
50:03
I'd forgotten the number 179, and I saw like 300 and
50:07
something, and I was like, well, that's only like 20 more than I
50:10
do. And then I'm like, Oh my God,
50:12
this is this. Yeah.
50:14
And it's a spiral, so the steps aren't very big people coming
50:17
out the way. Yeah, I'm.
50:17
Like I'm pretty fit on the stairs, but that was that was
50:20
tough. On the tube thing, we actually
50:23
had someone write in and they've actually echoed something I've
50:26
previously said. But I just want to remind people
50:28
that this wasn't just me. People who aren't ready with
50:31
their contactless or Oyster cards at the gate, like people
50:33
are still doing this. Did they not hear it?
50:35
Yeah, come on, I. Thought we'd all bucked our
50:37
ideas. Another one that I've got from
50:40
Al has written in. I love this one.
50:42
Every active brand dropping out a camera range.
50:46
No, turn it at me. Yeah, I mean.
50:48
I've probably bought from. I was going to say, I was going
50:50
to say I'm pretty sure everyone I know owns one, but the fact
50:52
that every single brand has brought out seemingly the
50:54
identical. I got the question last night
50:57
actually. He's now that or that.
50:59
I was like, no, no, they asked. So how much real tree do you
51:04
actually own now? I was like, the fact that I
51:07
can't tell you off the top of my head is tough.
51:10
No, keep it coming. I love it.
51:13
So I've got another one from Dez, which is people on their
51:17
phones not looking where they're going.
51:18
That's standard classic and also came in with official race
51:22
pictures of someone recording themselves crossing a finish.
51:27
Line shut up. I haven't seen that, but that is
51:30
that. Yeah, I can understand it might
51:32
be frustrating. I have a personal one which has
51:36
kind of set me off from someone else's TikTok so I'm kind of
51:40
stealing around my gears but I'm just adding to it here.
51:43
There is a girl who ran Chicago Marathon.
51:46
She posted her photos online and she got a message about 5 days
51:49
later from one of her friends saying is this not you and
51:54
forwarded an influencers post which had their face
51:58
photoshopped onto her body. She has still her race number
52:02
and the audacity to put as the caption not the time I wanted
52:07
with her time, not the time I wanted but got it done anyway.
52:11
There has been quite, quite the number of fake marathon photos
52:17
with influential people. And in fact, I was actually
52:21
listening to another podcast which covered the fact that
52:23
Harry Styles ran a sub three marathon.
52:25
Did you hear that? He obviously ran under a fake?
52:27
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now.
52:28
People getting upset with that. People getting upset with you.
52:31
I've heard a few reasons, and again, this was on this other
52:33
podcast, as to why I saw this clip as well.
52:36
So yeah, my personal opinion is just that it was a safety thing
52:40
for them because if you have seen any of these people in
52:44
like, YouTube videos or whatever, it takes 10 seconds
52:47
before there's hundreds of people around them.
52:48
Yeah. And so I've heard creative ideas
52:52
being that Berlin Marathon didn't want their website to
52:55
crash in terms of chase. And do you know what it probably
52:57
would also have? Happened on the Internet.
52:59
I'm also like, do you think Harry Styles fans would have
53:01
really been bothered to go and track him?
53:03
No, that's so true. That's so true.
53:07
But I also I. Like that that theory.
53:08
I, I watched a great video before technology is what
53:13
technology is now with like chips and everything like that.
53:17
There was a woman who won the Boston Marathon with a two hour
53:20
31 finish and she was reported by one person as being seen, I
53:27
think 800 meters out from the finish, starting the race,
53:31
running across, basically collapsing and being helped by
53:34
she goes to the to to finish the race.
53:38
She's claiming the win everything like that.
53:39
The news reporter, she's brilliant.
53:42
She's absolutely mugging this woman off.
53:44
She's like, so you know, what was your last marathon?
53:47
A 258? And that was only a a matter of
53:49
weeks ago. So what did you change in your
53:51
training? And she was like, Oh no, I just
53:55
had a great day today And, and the reporters like, well, we
53:58
missed you all of our checkpoints and we're watching
54:00
all of them come through. So you know, you are, you are a
54:02
mystery winner. What's the mystery behind it?
54:04
Have you have you been increasing your interval
54:05
training? And this woman is the worst
54:08
liar. She goes, you're the second
54:11
person to mention intervals. I don't know what they are.
54:13
What, what's interval training? And the reporters, just like a
54:16
lot of runners do interval training.
54:20
We'll have to verify this result and come back.
54:22
And it was just like there, there's so many people even
54:24
today that try and fake doing a marathon or even the time they
54:27
get, which is those twins or, or some well known influences in
54:30
America. I think in America who got a
54:33
taxi from one point to one point and when their chip didn't go
54:37
through a timer, they said that it was an error.
54:39
They uploaded their Strava time, which was actually someone else
54:42
that did race all of this. It happens.
54:44
It's amazing. The the Harry Styles thing, like
54:47
I, I think it truly is like a genuine, I don't want people to
54:49
know I'm racing this race so I don't get swamped when I'm
54:52
there. People don't try and run with
54:53
me. All of the rest.
54:54
I'm sure that is genuine. But yeah, it's it's interesting
54:57
that people get upset because it's a major if you're racing
55:00
under someone else's name, that shouldn't count, but it is.
55:04
And also like it's Harry Styles, like the whole world now knows
55:08
he ran that marathon anyway. So if he just entered under his
55:10
own name, what difference would it have actually really made?
55:12
But you you don't know, maybe, yes, he's being advised by a
55:15
security team or whatever. And who knows?
55:17
Like you don't know what it's like to be A to be a very well
55:21
known a list celebrity and. The interesting thing is a lot
55:23
of people that would have been fangirling or fanboying over him
55:26
probably wouldn't have been able to keep up.
55:28
So I was actually thinking maybe in the race it would disrupt his
55:30
race, but. No, all everything about it that
55:32
marathon is is just truly go to the fact that he ran it in such
55:36
hot weather in a long sleeve black T-shirt and ran under an
55:40
alias. It's just like, yeah, it's
55:42
pretty cool. So I've got another one from our
55:45
friends over at Diet Starts Monday podcast complaining that
55:48
it's not even winter yet and they're seeing far too many
55:51
gelays. It's always Gelay weather in
55:54
London. I was saying to you beforehand,
55:58
I actually dugout, I've got one of those heated gelays and I'm
56:01
doing a filming event this week. I need to be up through the
56:03
night because it's Backyard Ultra.
56:05
I cannot wait to wear that thing.
56:06
But I think that's that's a good purchase that the heated Gelay.
56:10
Underrated. You can get them on Amazon.
56:12
I'm going to go in with one now but it's it's really niche so I
56:15
might have to explain it a bit. I don't know if I've done this
56:18
one before, but it was recently just annoying me in the gym.
56:22
It's especially specific to CrossFit, but it's kind of
56:26
leaking into hyroxen and functional training, where
56:29
you're doing a workout where you've got a cardio machine,
56:32
let's say a row or a ski, and you have to get off and then do
56:36
some other stuff, some burpees, some more boards.
56:38
Doesn't really matter what it is.
56:39
But then you get back on the machine for the next round and
56:42
you don't reset your rower. So let's say the rowing target
56:45
is 20 calories per round. You pull, you get to 20
56:49
calories, you start doing the other stuff, you're moving
56:51
around, you get back on the machine.
56:53
Just because the fan or the flywheel is kept ticking over
56:57
after you've got off, it's already registering your next
57:00
calorie. So then your first pull of the
57:02
next round gives you a calorie and it's like falsifying your
57:08
effort. Whereas if I was to start from
57:10
zero to pull, if I do one pull, I'm not getting a calorie.
57:15
So you're cheating OK by not resetting the monitor if that
57:20
makes sense. So when you get off or when you
57:22
get back on you need to reset the monitor so it's back at 0.
57:25
So your true effort gives you 1 calorie rather than just
57:29
pulling. Try it when you're next in
57:30
because I. Am I?
57:31
I? Typically if I'm doing a workout
57:33
like that, I will always think I will.
57:34
I will keep going until I see the number.
57:36
I don't stop at 19, no. No, no, no, that's not the
57:40
problem. Like you will hit 20, but once
57:43
you've hit 20, even when you're off, the fans still going.
57:46
So still registering that you're rowing even though you're not
57:49
so. Have I not put that energy in?
57:52
So next round, do I I see what you're saying. 20 on average.
57:54
No, OK, not that's the loophole not allowed.
57:57
OK. And it's also just like it's
57:59
it's age-old CrossFit gym etiquette.
58:02
So yeah, it's just it's bad. That's good.
58:04
They're not doing that. OK, has given me another one as
58:07
well. I, I actually, I'm going to come
58:09
in with a quick one that definitely needs mentioning.
58:11
I don't think the person that you'll obviously know who I'm
58:14
talking about will listen to this episode.
58:15
If they do, I'm so sorry, but it definitely needed to bring it
58:18
up. Wearing gloves in high rocks.
58:23
No comment. Wearing gloves in high rocks?
58:24
You know what, like I kind of get it.
58:27
I'm sure it can improve. I would also argue that if
58:30
again, everyone can do the the weights in high rocks, maybe
58:33
just need a little bit more practice.
58:35
But what is not allowed is wearing gloves in high rocks and
58:41
then being bad at the thing you're wearing gloves for
58:43
anyway. Like still like, I'm fortunate
58:46
enough to to be sat here and say that I have done.
58:49
The farmers carry a pro weight 32 kilos unbroken.
58:52
All right, all right. I certainly have not worn gloves
58:57
and still not been able to do it to the point where they like
58:59
fall out of my hand. That shouldn't be allowed.
59:01
Do you reckon the gloves were actually detrimental?
59:03
No. All right, you're putting me in
59:05
a tough spot. Here, I know, I know.
59:06
I'm putting you in a tough spot. You don't have to comment, I'm
59:09
not going to. But what I would say is I think
59:11
if you, I think hire should introduce a rule if you choose
59:14
to wear gloves and you fail the exercise in such a manner,
59:18
Instant, instant disjalification.
59:19
They were colour coordinated to shorts though.
59:23
They were. I don't think that saves the
59:25
fact. If anything, that drew more
59:28
attention and draw And you, you've planned the outfit so far
59:31
that you haven't planned. The the just.
59:34
The grip. If it was such a benefit to your
59:38
performance, everyone would be wearing gloves.
59:41
I actually think more people would if if it hadn't just been
59:45
shot on so much. Yeah, I just have like an
59:48
inherent hatred for gloves in the gym anyway.
59:51
So yeah, that's a tough one. Well, anyway, we, we maybe,
59:55
let's leave it there. We'll leave it there.
59:58
We're going to move on to the sort of.
1:00:02
Last part, which is a quick one before we get into the game, I
1:00:05
want to know in your opinion, when should you quit on a
1:00:08
workout? When should you actually quit
1:00:10
and we're not just being like oh you should never quit, not some
1:00:13
motivational bullshit. When should you stop in the
1:00:18
same? If you're going too hard, if
1:00:20
you're in the actual race, if you're in just a session that
1:00:22
has been programmed or you've planned for yourself.
1:00:25
This is so subjective and it's such a personal thing and it has
1:00:31
so much to do with your mental capacity and current state and
1:00:39
also your physical. And it's always going to be
1:00:42
different on any different day. And you'll, you'll be able to
1:00:47
relate to this where you go to the gym and you're doing a hard
1:00:49
workout and you're like, I can't do the paces, I can't do the
1:00:53
reps unbroken. I'm not doing the weights that I
1:00:55
want to do. And this is just like really
1:00:57
shit. Do I just stop because this
1:01:00
isn't worth it? You can argue it so many
1:01:02
different ways. It's like, do I stop because
1:01:05
mentally I just don't want to be here and want to give myself the
1:01:08
break that that could be a good justification?
1:01:11
Should I stop because if I keep going, I might end up hurting
1:01:13
myself because I'm not concentrating and I might do
1:01:15
something stupid which could cause injury?
1:01:17
That's another thing to think about.
1:01:19
Do I feel this way because my body's hurting in a certain way
1:01:22
and as as a result of it, hurting could cause injury.
1:01:25
So it's like it's such a Gray area.
1:01:27
It's so difficult for me to let go.
1:01:29
Yeah, at this point you should stop.
1:01:31
But what I what I do is I use examples from like members in my
1:01:35
class when they come to me and they're like just not feeling it
1:01:38
today or this is really sore. My elbow hurts or my back hurts
1:01:43
and I might just try and push through anyway.
1:01:45
If they say that to me, I might. It's not worth it.
1:01:47
You're going to stop or we're going to modify the workout.
1:01:49
We're going to do something different or the fact that
1:01:52
you're here is fantastic. You're doing a really good job.
1:01:54
Why don't you just do something super low skill, jump on the
1:01:56
bike, spin your legs, get a bit sweaty, feel better about
1:01:58
yourself and then leave. So there's like there's lots of
1:02:01
different layers to it and for me, I don't want to go down the
1:02:04
whole David Goggins like you. You got to keep pushing the
1:02:07
whole time. You should never quit because I
1:02:09
don't believe in that at all. I think there is a time and a
1:02:11
place. If you're in the SIM and you're
1:02:13
pushing really hard and you're like mentally this is really
1:02:16
difficult. That's not the time to quit.
1:02:18
That's why you're there. Same in a race.
1:02:20
There's there's never really a point in a race where you should
1:02:23
go. This is hurting so much.
1:02:25
I need to stop. Like it's meant to be difficult.
1:02:28
You're there to push yourself to, to, to do a difficult thing.
1:02:32
But if you're in a race and you're like limping because you
1:02:35
ruptured your Achilles, maybe that's the time to stop.
1:02:38
Yeah, I think one of the most noticeable things about
1:02:41
experienced athletes is their understanding of quitting.
1:02:45
And I, I used to think this when I was when I was younger and
1:02:48
like really motivated, I was able to see progress and pretty
1:02:52
much every session I did because I was so new to different forms
1:02:54
of training that I thought, I see these people going in
1:02:57
sessions and they like go in saying they're going to do one
1:02:59
thing. They come in, come out having
1:03:01
absolutely not done that. Like that could never be me.
1:03:03
Actually, I couldn't be more proud of the fact that that is
1:03:05
me. Like, I hold myself very
1:03:07
accountable to not quitting things for various reasons, but
1:03:11
that doesn't mean I don't change the outcome.
1:03:13
Sure. And as a prime example, and the
1:03:16
reason this sort of came up is I had a really tough session last
1:03:19
week that on paper was super easy.
1:03:22
Like it was supposed to be a reintroduction to some of the
1:03:24
movements and hierarchs. And I really struggled.
1:03:26
And I was talking to someone else about this and they they
1:03:27
said they don't come from the hierarch space.
1:03:30
And they said to me, yeah, but like, surely you should have
1:03:34
just stopped. Like, when do you decide when to
1:03:36
stop? And my argument was, OK, So as
1:03:39
an example, there was as this workout was a series of
1:03:42
movements that need to be done within an amount of time frame
1:03:44
that considered rest. First two rounds, I was like,
1:03:47
this is fine. I was getting about a minute's
1:03:49
rest. That's what it was designed for.
1:03:51
And then the third round came along, and I was like, wow, OK,
1:03:54
this is tougher, but let me just eat into some of that rest.
1:03:58
And then we'll have a slightly easier round and we'll come
1:03:59
back. I was intending to do 6 rounds,
1:04:02
so I wasn't even halfway at this point.
1:04:04
I then got to the end of that round, including the rest, and
1:04:07
I'd had maybe 20 seconds rest instead of the minute.
1:04:10
And immediately I was like, that wasn't enough rest.
1:04:13
Am I going to have another slur round?
1:04:15
And I was like, actually, this whole thing is going to become a
1:04:17
slog. And what was really annoying
1:04:18
about that was, as I said, it was intended to be quite easy.
1:04:21
There were certain tough elements, but the weight of
1:04:24
everything was either the open weight or lighter than what I'm
1:04:28
used to training. Sometimes it just feels like
1:04:30
that. So it got to a point and I
1:04:31
actually had a sit down where I gave myself an extra 2 minutes
1:04:34
rest out of the workout where I just sat there and I was like,
1:04:37
look, am I going to walk away from this?
1:04:40
If I, if I walk away from it now after round 4, so I physically
1:04:44
recover and do something different tomorrow and I move
1:04:47
on. Or am I mentally going to beat
1:04:50
myself up that tomorrow's workout actually becomes such a
1:04:52
chore? And I hate that one as well.
1:04:55
And so I bargained with myself and said, look, you can just
1:04:58
have a minute from whenever you finish the exercises.
1:05:01
Just do the exercises as well as you can and then finish the
1:05:04
workout. And in the end, looking back on
1:05:06
the splits of everything, I didn't even do that far off the
1:05:08
original goal, maybe 1520 seconds per round longer.
1:05:11
But the thought process of do I quit and what's the benefit
1:05:17
physically versus mentally was something that I was able to
1:05:20
understand and account for myself.
1:05:22
And I think that's one scenario where it came into that.
1:05:25
There's other times where I've been doing running intervals and
1:05:27
I'm like Carl, I can't, I can't go.
1:05:30
And prime example was actually this year a couple of nights
1:05:32
ago. It's in the last effort.
1:05:34
And I was pushing and I was like, it's my last effort.
1:05:36
I don't normally want to push too hard to destroy the stimulus
1:05:39
to work out, but I'm going to push a little bit, see what is
1:05:42
there. And then I had someone come
1:05:45
along next to me and they were pushing, and they must have put
1:05:48
about two meters in front of me. And I was like, I'm not gonna
1:05:51
let him go. Yeah, like, OK, let's race.
1:05:54
And I looked and I was like, I've got 55 seconds left.
1:05:57
I don't think I can hold that. And then there was the classic
1:05:59
thing coming back in the head of like, I can hold something for a
1:06:02
minute, come on. And then you get through it.
1:06:04
And I was like, OK, I'm glad I did that.
1:06:06
And in reality, I was still performing above what I could.
1:06:09
But then I had to make this decision of like, do I quit on
1:06:12
this level that I think I can hold?
1:06:14
And it's this sort of back and forth.
1:06:15
But absolutely pretty much every session I go into comes with a
1:06:19
slight different outcome, whether that's I've actually
1:06:21
pushed myself harder or I've tailed on.
1:06:23
And that's purely from being in those situations so much that,
1:06:25
you know, and I think there isn't a blanket statement.
1:06:27
So I'm glad you didn't say like one thing to think now every
1:06:31
scenario is different and you only learn from yourself.
1:06:35
What I personally still believe, and in two years time I might
1:06:39
look back and say that's not right, is I never like to walk
1:06:42
away from a workout on the dot. Yeah, I always would do
1:06:45
something else. If I go into a session and like
1:06:47
things are really hurting. I'm super fatigued.
1:06:50
I'm not getting much out of strength, I'm not getting much
1:06:52
out of the conditioning side of things.
1:06:54
Then I'll just have an easy session where I sit on a mic,
1:06:57
sit on my own machine because at least I'm doing something.
1:06:58
I'm getting a bit of a sweat on. There's going to be some benefit
1:07:01
to my to my health from that. As long as I'm not doing
1:07:04
anything too taxing. And mentally I'll step away from
1:07:06
be like I still did something today.
1:07:08
It's hard, isn't it, when you're like inherently competitive with
1:07:11
yourself and other people, but when you're training by
1:07:14
yourself, it's difficult to go. I'm just not going to do this
1:07:17
because naturally it starts to like you, you kind of get
1:07:21
negative connotations away from that.
1:07:23
And, and like I truly do believe and it's really interesting
1:07:25
hearing you talk like that. I do believe that you get so
1:07:28
much mental benefit from not quitting.
1:07:34
And like, if you are super easy with yourself and you go, yeah,
1:07:38
I, I don't need to do that today or I'm not going to die and just
1:07:40
walk away. Like you start to build up this
1:07:44
like, I don't know how to explain it other than like you
1:07:47
allow yourself to quit easily. So then when you are put in a
1:07:50
situation which is difficult, let's say you're in the race
1:07:53
situation, you go, I just don't need to push that hard actually,
1:07:57
or you don't have the ability to really hold yourself accountable
1:08:01
to be able to push hard. So, so much of this comes down
1:08:04
to your mental capacity more really than your your physical.
1:08:09
You do need to be sensible though.
1:08:10
If your body isn't feeling 100%, you've got to regulate the
1:08:13
intensity. So every, every time I go into
1:08:17
the gym, I have kind of like AI take a like a mental and
1:08:22
physical. Both are out of five combined
1:08:25
together. So I get a score out of 10.
1:08:28
And it's always subjective because I always feel different
1:08:30
based off how I slept, how I've eaten, just mentally, how I'm
1:08:33
how I'm at that point. But if I'm under A5, then I'm
1:08:37
typically going to regulate my intensity.
1:08:39
I'm probably not going to lift as heavy.
1:08:40
And like you said, I might just spin my legs on the bike.
1:08:43
If I'm closer to A9 or A10, then I'm going to push really hard.
1:08:46
So I have set sessions across the week, but I do the certain
1:08:51
intensities on the day that match me.
1:08:54
So yeah, maybe it says on this day, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
1:08:57
Friday, Saturday, these are my days.
1:08:59
But I might do Saturday's workout on Tuesday because I
1:09:01
feel way better on Tuesday and I don't want to kind of predict
1:09:04
how I feel on Saturday because I might get Saturday, I might feel
1:09:07
like shit and then I don't want to do that session.
1:09:08
So it's like just being sensible with your training.
1:09:10
That does come with time and intuition and experience with
1:09:13
actual. Training out 5 + 5 thing, yeah,
1:09:16
I've not done that, but I quite like the approach of that, so I
1:09:18
might take that in myself. I like it is super subjective,
1:09:21
but it's always going to be subjective.
1:09:22
And that's why sometimes I had this debate with someone the
1:09:25
other day when you're doing percentage loading for strength
1:09:28
work, if you go into the gym and it's five sets of five at 70%,
1:09:33
whatever the movement is doesn't matter.
1:09:35
You're like, that 70% for me is set in stone.
1:09:38
And I know I'm so competitive that it doesn't matter how I
1:09:41
feel. I'm going to try and do that 70%
1:09:43
even though it might be detrimental.
1:09:45
And it's at the point where you go and you're like, I'm sore,
1:09:47
I'm tired, I don't want to be here mentally, I'm just not with
1:09:50
it. You try and hit 70% and that's
1:09:52
when you hurt yourself. So rather that 70% becomes an
1:09:55
RPE relative perceived effort. Now it's 7 out of 10.
1:09:58
That's what I was going to say. 7 out of 10 is relative to how I
1:10:01
feel that day, which could be 20 percent lighter than my actual
1:10:05
70%, but it feels like a 7 out of 10 effort.
1:10:08
And I know it's super subjective and it's not as effective for
1:10:10
efficient strength training, but it's a really solid way of
1:10:13
actually getting the most out of your training in a sensible way.
1:10:15
I. Did wonder when you said that it
1:10:17
was out of 10 if it was going to be related to an RPE scale.
1:10:19
So yeah, OK, I really like that. Now before we move into the
1:10:23
game, I just want to highlight the fact that a lot of these
1:10:26
topics that we end up talking about and the grind my gears,
1:10:28
that sort of thing, as you would have heard, especially in this
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upload come from you guys that are listening.
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So if you do to be involved, we absolutely love having you as
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1:10:37
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Some of you will actually be watching this now.
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So have a wave hello, but then you can also do things.
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1:11:01
We absolutely love having you involved.
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Now the next thing that you can be involved in is play along
1:11:05
with this game. This is definitely a play along
1:11:07
one, OK? Cool.
1:11:08
Apparently I'm going to be good at this, so I'm looking forward
1:11:10
to this week. Yeah.
1:11:10
So for today. You've got the job of guessing
1:11:16
how much it costs. I'm so good at that so.
1:11:19
And I love a variety of different things, different
1:11:23
equipment across different sports.
1:11:25
And Angus job is going to be to guess how much they cost.
1:11:29
Now I'm going to give you my phone.
1:11:31
You can, yeah, that's where the the photos of the items are,
1:11:35
right? You can zoom in, you can do
1:11:36
whatever you want onto the photos, OK, But we're going to
1:11:38
start 1 by 1. So I'm going to give you this.
1:11:41
I've got all of the information on the products in my notebook,
1:11:45
so have a little look at that. So.
1:11:46
For those of you that are watching on YouTube, I will do
1:11:48
you a solid and I'll put the photo of what I'm seeing on
1:11:51
here. Those of you that are listening,
1:11:52
I have a bike. It is cream coloured.
1:11:54
It is seemingly a road bike. Incorrect.
1:11:58
OK, it's would you like the details?
1:12:00
Yeah. So this is this is a gravel
1:12:02
bike. It's made by a brand called
1:12:04
Envy, and the model is a mog Mog.
1:12:07
So looking at that bike, you can do whatever detective work you
1:12:11
would like to figure out how expensive.
1:12:13
It is. I have one immediate question.
1:12:16
OK, does the price of the bike include the pedals?
1:12:19
Because there aren't any pedals in this photo.
1:12:21
No. OK, for those of you who don't
1:12:23
know, when you buy a nice bike, you actually don't get pedals
1:12:26
with it. That's crazy.
1:12:27
No, it's not crazy because the pedals will be dictated by the
1:12:29
type of cleats you wear and the shoes you have.
1:12:32
So. The bike's got single speed
1:12:34
front gear system. That's interesting.
1:12:37
Did it not? Well, yeah, it's a one buyer.
1:12:38
It's a gravel bike. I didn't know that gravel bikes
1:12:41
had that as standard. The untrained it's.
1:12:43
Got double disc brakes. It's pretty standard for high
1:12:46
level bikes. So you think it's a?
1:12:49
There's no. Brand, first of all, like I
1:12:50
would have said if there was a brand that's visible, but I.
1:12:52
Can't think it's a high level bike.
1:12:54
It could be, for as far as I'm aware it has Pirelli tires.
1:12:58
Nice, that's very Formula One. Yeah, he's doing the good stuff.
1:13:03
The whole I'm trying to see circulator, I'm trying to see if
1:13:07
they're inner tube. No inner tube, can't really
1:13:09
tell. Car bikes are expensive guys, so
1:13:15
I'm going to go ahead and say that the whole thing with the
1:13:18
wheel, everything I'm looking at, right?
1:13:19
You get all of that. All of that, let's shoot for.
1:13:25
37993799 Yeah, I was going to be really disappointed if you were
1:13:30
close. OK, yeah, that bike cost 11
1:13:32
grand. Oh my word, that's crazy.
1:13:35
Yeah, 11 grand. OK, 11.
1:13:37
Grand. I think if the bike doesn't have
1:13:38
a brand on it, that's when you know it's.
1:13:40
I didn't know if this was a doctored image.
1:13:43
Yeah, as that oh bike. Yeah, OK.
1:13:44
Also, wow, 11 grand slightly off.
1:13:47
You're going to swipe across. OK, now the next OK, this is
1:13:52
this is nice for you. So this is you can this is an
1:13:55
NFL American football. You can buy this online.
1:13:58
This one is allegedly the standard that you play with in
1:14:02
the actual NFL. See, what's interesting is I
1:14:04
should be able to give you an exact price for this.
1:14:06
But yeah, inflation's happened since I bought.
1:14:08
One do you know I I bought 1 because because can I ask a.
1:14:12
Question though, did you buy like and is this a real leather?
1:14:16
So I bought 1 because I wanted one to Chuck around and I was
1:14:19
like, well I'll just get an American football and I want the
1:14:21
one that they play with in the NFLI was shook off at how
1:14:25
expensive it was. It is surprising.
1:14:29
As long as the number I'm saying is correct, I'll get on to that.
1:14:32
So I have bought one of these previously from a website called
1:14:38
Football America in the UK which imports everything and I got it
1:14:41
for I believe I paid £120 for it.
1:14:48
What did you see it as recently? So that's your guess?
1:14:52
That's my guess. 1/15 1:15 that's.
1:14:55
Very good. Yeah, Well done.
1:14:56
So I'm glad because when I did my when I did my aerodynamics
1:15:01
final year masters project in aerodynamics at uni Flex.
1:15:06
And I got now I got a budget to go and buy a ball.
1:15:09
Oh nice. Which I didn't use for no jade.
1:15:12
I just got a ball out of it. The budget was like £30.
1:15:15
No the. Budget was up to £200 per
1:15:17
student, but no one used it. So I was like, I'm using it.
1:15:19
Yeah, obviously, obviously if luck for universities listen to
1:15:21
this, that didn't happen. I also got a college one.
1:15:25
OK, so I actually ever spent my budget.
1:15:26
Oh cool, because that was also £120.
1:15:29
But yeah, they are expensive. But if you actually look at like
1:15:32
soccer footballs, if you buy one of the new ones from night
1:15:37
you'll you'll notice that the cheap ones are well used to be
1:15:39
like £10 but probably not like 2025.
1:15:41
Apparently combined the nice ones are like 60-70.
1:15:44
The actual Premier League standard ones are like 150 to
1:15:46
160 is mad. But there is also a noticeable
1:15:50
difference in how they react. Don't they have like?
1:15:52
Sensors in the balls they've started to put in.
1:15:56
Wilson have started doing some balls which got sensors in as
1:15:58
well because they're hoping to bring in loads of like, more
1:16:01
data and more data. Which again, sneak peek from my
1:16:04
Masters project, actually doesn't really matter too much
1:16:08
how much the ball spins, that sort of thing.
1:16:10
If you can see that it's shit by the way it's thrown, yeah, it's
1:16:13
shit. Yeah, Knowing the difference
1:16:14
between the ball rotating two or three more times per minute
1:16:17
makes no difference. Anyway, we're now sticking on
1:16:21
the Wilson train. We are, yeah.
1:16:22
So this is a Wilson Impact 99 badminton racket.
1:16:27
OK. For those of you again that are
1:16:30
looking on YouTube, this looks like a pretty generic racket.
1:16:33
I don't see anything fancy like carbon.
1:16:35
I didn't know if that'd come into the sport yet.
1:16:37
I'm going to go ahead and say it's aluminium racket.
1:16:40
Wilson's a well known brand. Nothing crazy about the grip
1:16:43
here. We've not got like Bryce and
1:16:44
Duchampo thick grips. Can I ask a question please?
1:16:49
What was the site that you got the price of this from?
1:16:52
No. OK, that's tough.
1:16:55
Because if it's like it could be Sports Direct, it could be
1:16:57
Wilson's Direct site. This could be like an elite.
1:16:59
One. What was the name of it?
1:17:01
The impact? 99 impact 99, that sounds
1:17:04
budget, that sounds like a 99 flag.
1:17:07
I'm going to go ahead and say this cost 399939, yeah.
1:17:14
Do you know what that's like? Probably the average price from
1:17:17
the site that I was looking at. OK, this costs £15 and I, I,
1:17:21
your detective work was very impressive because it's from
1:17:24
Sports Direct. OK, £15 and yeah, it's the, the
1:17:27
name does give it away, but yeah, it's one of their budget
1:17:29
rackets. But £15, you can't go wrong with
1:17:32
that. No, I want to get solid bammons
1:17:33
and that's so solid. For sure and and it's one of
1:17:35
those where like that quite easily could have been £150.
1:17:39
I like the fact that you know for most sports now it's the
1:17:42
barrier to entry is horrible, but if you want to just go and
1:17:45
freaking hit a shuttle culture and play badminton.
1:17:47
So true. It's so good for from sports I
1:17:49
love. Badminton, Yeah, we play back
1:17:50
again. Oh, OK, here we go.
1:17:53
Right. Let me talk you through these.
1:17:54
These are the Nike Mercurial Vapor 16 Elites.
1:17:58
So it's a football boot or a soccer shoe, whatever you want
1:18:02
to call it. The special thing with these, I
1:18:06
don't know if you'll be able to tell from the the pattern on the
1:18:08
outside. It's a collab with Air Max 95.
1:18:11
So I was going to say there was definitely a pretty special so.
1:18:16
Honestly. Football booth, so I was going
1:18:18
to. Say the name needs work because
1:18:20
the name is like when you're trying to hit the word count,
1:18:23
it's a bit long, too long. But I kind of also get it
1:18:26
because it's this collaboration and you can kind of see that in
1:18:28
the the waves that are on the side, but also where there's a
1:18:31
slight detail going up to the laces.
1:18:33
I like that. I appreciate that.
1:18:34
That's a great issue. This is going to be A1 release
1:18:39
of a kind. I don't want to say a
1:18:39
one-of-a-kind necessarily, but this is the sort of thing that I
1:18:42
would expect to find on stock X or similar sites and therefore
1:18:47
I'm going to bump the price a bit.
1:18:48
I would say for a good Nike football boot you'd probably be
1:18:52
paying close to £200. So I'm going to go ahead and say
1:18:58
this one maybe is. 1000 ish really Yeah retails on Nike for
1:19:05
275 really OK so it's not a collector's item yet no OK
1:19:09
because it's like it's a collab with 95 but.
1:19:13
It's not like you're still internal.
1:19:14
Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, cool.
1:19:16
But like I like your. Thought process was good.
1:19:18
OK, Have we? Have we got more?
1:19:19
Of course. Yeah.
1:19:20
Amazing. So, Oh my word, Lewis Hamilton's
1:19:24
F1 Ferrari. It's his.
1:19:26
It's his current car that drives.
1:19:28
All in yeah, so I know I I had an interesting fact that I
1:19:33
learnt about 10 years ago. So again, could be quite well
1:19:36
outdated with the price, but the steering wheel of these things
1:19:39
alone is about 50 grand. Yep.
1:19:42
The next thing to consider is that so much of that car is
1:19:46
carbon fibre. That's not the main issue here
1:19:49
is that there's obviously it's like you can't buy it.
1:19:51
So there's no price of course. So the price I've got is I took
1:19:55
a couple of different numbers from different sites of people
1:19:58
speculating how much one of his cars would cost.
1:20:01
And I've kind of got an average number across the lowest price
1:20:04
point to what people speculate to be the highest price point.
1:20:07
OK, so I'm going to go and I'm going to say the powertrain
1:20:10
alone. So the engine and the sort of
1:20:12
driving and everything like that, I'm going to say that
1:20:13
comes to probably around 8 mil tires.
1:20:19
I mean, if we just consider that's for on a car, let's say
1:20:22
like 100 grand for those. For the tires.
1:20:27
Crazy. Well you know Bugatti Veyron.
1:20:29
They only last 16,000 miles, the tires at Max and they cost 16
1:20:32
grand each. Yeah, and these the last a
1:20:34
couple of laps. Yeah.
1:20:36
We've gone 100K for four tires. Yeah, right.
1:20:40
Let's rack it up. Well, I mean, this could end.
1:20:42
I mean, you make it sound expensive. 50K for the steering
1:20:44
but everything else make it sound expensive. 100K for four
1:20:47
pieces of rubber so. I'm going to.
1:20:50
No way. That's how much tires cost.
1:20:53
Yeah, I'd be really interested, so.
1:20:55
I'm going to go ahead and say this whole thing all in, not
1:20:59
including Lewis. Yeah, you can't buy Lewis.
1:21:02
Is 48 mil. Oh, he shot high.
1:21:11
So the highest estimate that I saw was 20 mil.
1:21:14
Oh really? I got the average I averaged out
1:21:16
to 16,000,000. OK, which is shocking to think
1:21:20
that when they crash it, I just have to.
1:21:22
Rebuild it. See, do you know what's really
1:21:24
annoying and certain very engineering of me is to think I
1:21:27
was kind of factoring in something that I really
1:21:29
shouldn't have factored in for the way we're playing this game,
1:21:31
which is I was thinking about the amount of time investment
1:21:34
from all the engineers. I'm like, all that, yeah, OK, so
1:21:38
2020 million. Understandable.
1:21:39
And that's why you can also understand why.
1:21:41
They get upset when they crack and.
1:21:43
They crack and it's so like I hate it and love it when a when
1:21:47
a driver goes sorry guys as soon as they hit the wall because
1:21:50
like you have to say it but also you don't really care.
1:21:54
Yeah, you don't care. Yeah, OK.
1:21:56
Next we have. This is OK.
1:21:58
This is just fun fact. Ryan, owner of E1, the gym I
1:22:02
work at, Yeah, he's just started sponsoring the local hockey
1:22:05
team. I love you so much.
1:22:08
And it's on their shirt. And we we really want to get
1:22:10
these whopping hockey club shirts.
1:22:12
But I I said to Ron, I was like, why can't you have like
1:22:14
sponsored something like an F1 team?
1:22:16
Yeah, why don't we get the E1F1 team?
1:22:19
Maybe not in budget, but that would be sweet.
1:22:21
So this is this is the sore ultra light race vest.
1:22:26
Now this piece of material costs.
1:22:29
No, it doesn't cost because that would that would give.
1:22:31
The ruining the game. This weighs 44 grams. 40. 4G so
1:22:36
it does look nice do. You know what?
1:22:37
That doesn't mean much to me because I've never really
1:22:39
thought about how much anything I wear way too much apart from
1:22:43
like nice, stylish, that different T-shirt, newer Mo
1:22:46
Farah then that is. I understand it's not even skin
1:22:50
tight and it's. Hideous.
1:22:53
No, that's that is cool. I don't know.
1:22:56
Kind of looks like something out of the 70s.
1:22:59
Yeah, on the dance floor. But just bearing in mind all
1:23:01
that is, is a running vest. Yeah, like a SIM.
1:23:04
But that material? Makes it more expensive because
1:23:07
that is all it is. Nice.
1:23:08
So I knew you'd be good at this game.
1:23:10
So that sounds expensive. The colors in there, they're
1:23:14
going to make it seem like it wasn't just plastic printed.
1:23:17
I think this vest alone 4599. £90.
1:23:24
Oh my word. And you know why I had to put
1:23:26
this in? Because when I ran my 10K the
1:23:28
other day, I didn't have a a vest that fit me anymore.
1:23:32
And I went online to buy a vest and I'm like, I'm a fashionable
1:23:36
guy. I'll go to Saw, I'll go to
1:23:37
Satisfy, I'll go to. I was like shocked, £90.
1:23:41
I thought Nike were expensive. That Aeroswift vest, 70 quid,
1:23:46
£70 for a vest, £90 for vest. There's vests I could have.
1:23:49
There was a vest, £150. Clothes should not be
1:23:52
approaching drug prices. 2 LB a gram is what we're talking
1:23:57
there. 44 grams, I mean, I don't, I don't really know drug
1:24:00
prices. I imagine it's far more than £2
1:24:02
per gram. I imagine it's far more than £2
1:24:05
a gram but 2 LB a gram for. Wild, isn't it?
1:24:08
For something that, like I said, I'm not particularly drawn to,
1:24:11
is mental. You are buying the brand at that
1:24:14
point. Yeah, 100%.
1:24:15
I mean, there's no way you're buying performance out that when
1:24:17
I said it's not even skin tight or anything like that, I'm just
1:24:20
like, OK, next. Oh.
1:24:22
OK, so you've got here a set from 4 iron down to pitching
1:24:27
wedge, so you get 7 irons, but this is the Mizuno down to.
1:24:31
Pitching edge. Only so 4 to pitch, yeah.
1:24:34
So no sound wedges or any other way?
1:24:36
OK cool. This guy knows nothing about
1:24:37
golf. No I do.
1:24:38
I just wanted to confirm. You buy you buy your wedges Yeah
1:24:40
yeah. So these are the Mizuno pro S1
1:24:44
irons. I thought they were called MP
1:24:46
fours but the website told me S 1 so I don't know but that's
1:24:50
like a a nice forged blade. So for those that don't know
1:24:55
about golf, Forged is good is put it basically nice.
1:25:00
Mizuno historically makes some of the nicest clubs believe
1:25:03
they're Japanese and. That's that's a great, great set
1:25:07
of lines if you can have. Yeah, I was going to say these
1:25:09
are, these are real nice. Hard to hit, but real nice.
1:25:13
Very hard to hit. I've actually hit MP fours
1:25:15
before and it's just not the one.
1:25:16
Yeah. Until you find the one spot and
1:25:19
it's get everything. Yeah, yeah, it's tough.
1:25:23
Irons can be incredibly expensive for a set and I'm
1:25:27
going to say that these are definitely towards the top end.
1:25:31
8999989999 no more yeah, yeah, one.
1:25:38
Can I have another? Yeah, please 146999.
1:25:42
It's so specific. 137 aha. Yeah, it's expensive for a set
1:25:47
of golf clubs. It's a lot, but do you know what
1:25:49
that separates the average 25 handicap from being scratch, as
1:25:54
I've discovered in everyone's purchases?
1:25:55
Yeah, it's not. It's not there.
1:25:57
No, it's not there for sure. And that's before when you think
1:26:00
about getting a set of clubs, you'd then fitted, fitted, you'd
1:26:04
have different shafts, maybe you had to change the club head
1:26:07
angle, you'd change the grips, might have a thicker grip, a
1:26:10
thinner grip. So it all in, it's probably like
1:26:12
2K for just 7 clubs. And then you need two more
1:26:16
wedges probably you need a putter.
1:26:18
You then need a driver, maybe a hybrid or yeah, it's a it's
1:26:23
fancy spot. You know I was just not funny as
1:26:25
well as you can look up a YouTube video right now that
1:26:29
will be. Can this tour pro go under par
1:26:34
with a set of Slazengers from sports?
1:26:36
Right. And they do, yeah.
1:26:37
Yeah. So like, realistically, it
1:26:39
doesn't make that much, not much difference.
1:26:40
So that's really. And we already mentioned Bryson
1:26:42
Dechambeau. I'm actually a really big fan of
1:26:44
his. His YouTube channel is really
1:26:45
good. If you're not into golf but
1:26:47
would maybe like to or want to just watch some golf, his
1:26:50
channel is really good and he plays with another YouTuber
1:26:53
called Grant Horvath. And Grant's like a really good
1:26:56
amateur. But the difference between a
1:26:58
high level like a college golfer and Bryson who's a tour Pro is,
1:27:02
is amazing. And, and sometimes they'll do
1:27:03
like ask ChatGPT what club should Bryson hit and he'll hit
1:27:07
like a putter off the tee and still win the hole.
1:27:10
Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, OK, we've now got some
1:27:14
jorts. No, Angus, these aren't any
1:27:17
jorts. These are.
1:27:20
These are cool to satisfy pace shell 5 inch shell piece shell
1:27:26
is it yeah piece right that wrong.
1:27:28
My research has has failed me suddenly these shell not running
1:27:31
5 inch fake denim shorts, so that's like a right you can.
1:27:35
See the print right now? What I will say, 5 inch is the
1:27:39
golden standard within men's shorts.
1:27:42
I think I bought a set of OH. Sorry.
1:27:45
So always dangerous to the camera roll.
1:27:48
So. I think I bought a pair that's
1:27:50
smaller that I might debut at threshold Friday, but I don't
1:27:54
know if that's too. Short If that's not a reason for
1:27:57
people to come down, maybe well, but they.
1:27:58
Like slit right to the waistband as well.
1:28:00
So there's going to do. These have a slit on the side.
1:28:03
They do but not allow pie. I saw these.
1:28:06
I don't often go shopping, but I went shopping the other day and
1:28:08
I saw these in a shop and I thought they were so cool.
1:28:11
So I'm going to go ahead and say purely based off what they are,
1:28:15
they're still running shorts, everything like that.
1:28:17
I'm going to match the exact price of the vest.
1:28:19
Really. Yeah.
1:28:22
Then therefore not understanding satisfies a brand as knowing
1:28:25
brand. These are 220.
1:28:29
Oh my. Do you know how small of a
1:28:32
material that is? 220 lbs.
1:28:38
Do you know I? Was really considering them for
1:28:41
high rocks. That would be sick.
1:28:43
Have you seen the guy True at Haynes?
1:28:45
Yeah, he's actually running marathons in in jeans, but maybe
1:28:48
they're just. Stress satisfy you could.
1:28:51
There's a brand called Bourne Primitive, an American brand
1:28:55
that's deeply embedded in CrossFit and they make like
1:28:58
functional jorts, which is stretchy, which which aren't
1:29:02
aren't cool, but kind of. Cool for yet.
1:29:05
OK, I will not be buying those. All right, we've got one more.
1:29:07
OK, here we go. These are the on cloud boom
1:29:10
strikes. There's there's a special name
1:29:12
for them. They're like the slip ONS.
1:29:15
Awesome. Yeah, these are.
1:29:17
A weird shoe. I believe these are a bit of APR
1:29:20
stunt shoe never because they'll.
1:29:23
Make the. Crazy videos of them being
1:29:24
sprayed onto the foot like moulded which is really cool.
1:29:28
Essentially they are a sock with a carbon plate on the bottom.
1:29:34
I grind my gears. By the way, there are some
1:29:36
Youtubers that have got on deals that are wearing carbon plates
1:29:38
in all their shoes and they're just like walking around.
1:29:40
KSI thrown it at the bloke but I.
1:29:43
Saw come on crossing the road yesterday.
1:29:45
Sorry, Alpha flies and he just was not going running no.
1:29:49
OK, so these these are expensive, they're the forefront
1:29:54
of technology. I reckon these are £380.99.
1:30:04
He's he's, he's pretty good. It's they're 309.
1:30:07
OK. I thought they'd actually have
1:30:09
gone up in price because didn't know if they were still making
1:30:11
those. Puts into perspective that pair
1:30:12
of shorts. Yeah, like, you could get those
1:30:15
shoes for basically the same price.
1:30:18
Now what? These might actually help you go
1:30:20
a bit quick. Well, I.
1:30:21
Was playing, I was, I was going to ask the did you see the
1:30:24
Adidas? I can't remember what they are.
1:30:27
They're like the one use shoe. Yes, yeah, they're kind of like
1:30:31
disintegrate across the race. I was going to ask you about
1:30:35
those, the Adidas ones, they're like £500 or something, but I
1:30:37
thought that was maybe well. If there's something for you and
1:30:39
for the listeners to go and have a look at ASICS who just had two
1:30:43
pairs of shoes approved by whoever runs the rules in
1:30:47
running, and they look weird. Weird.
1:30:51
So they must be doing. Some some of the carbon shoes
1:30:54
like the the the top Puma ones, they look a bit funky.
1:30:57
They've got like split sole and then like a pointy thing on the
1:31:02
front. They look like a.
1:31:03
A whale, I think. I think people are having a lot
1:31:06
of fun at the moment making with crush shoes and and playing with
1:31:09
the legality of it. Yeah.
1:31:11
But yeah, well, I enjoyed that. Hayden Wilde, the triathlete,
1:31:15
got called out for wearing a shoe that was illegal by
1:31:18
accident. Or something like that, anyway.
1:31:20
I don't know the details, but yeah, it's a wheel.
1:31:22
I enjoyed that game. I might have to return that one
1:31:24
back to you. If you guys enjoyed that, I will
1:31:26
happily do that. Leave your suggestions if you
1:31:28
want us to do other games or if you've got things that maybe
1:31:31
Charles should guess the cost of, let us know in the comments
1:31:34
down below. If you're not already
1:31:35
subscribed, it would be massively appreciated.
1:31:38
And then going into the back end of this year, which is quite
1:31:40
weird to to say mentor going into the back end of this year.
1:31:43
If you have ideas for what we can do going into the new year,
1:31:48
then give us a shout on those. It's an opportunity for us to
1:31:51
change some bits if we should. I'm enjoying it as it is, but
1:31:54
I'm always open to new ideas. So yeah, it's been an absolute
1:31:59
pleasure having you all join us for this episode again.
1:32:01
Charles, Is there anything else? From you I've got no.
1:32:04
Thing. OK, In which case, we look
1:32:05
forward to seeing you all in the next episode.