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- Lucas: I want to tell you about a pet supply store in Portland that hit 30 million dollars in revenue last year without a website. Luna: Wait — no website at all? In 2026? Lucas: Zero. No e-commerce, no online ordering, no 'shop now' button. Their entire business runs through phone calls, text messages, and a paper loyalty card. And they're doing 30 million. Luna: Okay, I have to hear how. Because every small business I know is told they need an online store or they're dead. Lucas: Right, and this is the counterexample. The company is called Fetch & Feast — started in 2015 by a former veterinary technician named Megan O'Neil. Her first location was a 600-square-foot storefront in southeast Portland. Luna: And she just sold dog food and treats? Lucas: Mostly. But the key insight she had was that pet owners buy the same things every month — food, treats, waste bags, dental chews. It's a recurring consumable pattern. So within the first year, she started a subscription: $250 a month for a custom box of food and treats, delivered to your door. Luna: So the subscription is the digital backbone, even without a website. Lucas: Exactly. Signups happen in person or over the phone. She used a simple spreadsheet at first, then graduated to a basic CRM. But the customer never touches a checkout page. They give her a credit card over the phone, or they pay cash in the store. Luna: And the delivery — how did they scale that? Portland is big. Lucas: Here's the part I love: she started delivering by bike. In 2016, she hired a single part-time cyclist to do same-day deliveries within a three-mile radius. Today, they have a fleet of 18 cargo bikes and five vans. Bikes cover the dense urban core, vans handle the suburbs. And their average delivery time is under four hours. Luna: That's faster than Amazon. Lucas: It is. And it's cheaper for them — no packaging waste, no shipping labels, no carrier fees. The bikes cost them about $0.80 per delivery in labor and maintenance. Compare that to the $6 or $7 you'd pay for a small parcel via UPS. Luna: So the no-website decision isn't just stubbornness — it's a cost structure advantage. Lucas: That's exactly right. Megan has said in interviews that she looked at building an e-commerce site in 2018, got quotes for 50 to 100 thousand dollars, and realized that investment would take years to pay back. Meanwhile, her phone-based system was growing 40 percent year-over-year just through word of mouth. Luna: But at some point, doesn't not having a website limit your reach? You can't attract customers outside your geographic area. Lucas: That's the trade-off she's making intentionally. Fetch & Feast doesn't want customers outside Portland. They want to own their city. And they do — they have a 4.9-star average on Google with over 2,000 reviews. Their net promoter score is 87. Luna: That's absurdly high. Most retailers are thrilled with a 50. Lucas: Right. And the reason is the experience. When you order, you talk to a real person who knows your dog's name and what brand of food they eat. The delivery person texts you a photo of your box on your doorstep. If something is wrong, they send someone back within the hour. Luna: That's the kind of service you can't replicate with a chatbot. Lucas: You can't. And that's the core insight of this story — the competitive moat isn't technology, it's the human relationship. Megan says her average customer stays subscribed for 23 months. That's nearly two years of predictable revenue per customer. Luna: Let's talk numbers. How many customers does that take to hit 30 million? Lucas: If the average subscription is $250 a month, you need about 10,000 active subscribers. She has roughly 11,000 now, plus walk-in retail. The retail side adds maybe 5 million a year. So the subscription piece is about 25 million. Luna: And she's operating how many locations? Lucas: Five. All in the Portland metro area. She opened the first in 2015, the second in 2018, and then three more between 2020 and 2024. Each new store is essentially a distribution hub plus a retail front. Luna: So the stores themselves are part of the logistics network. Lucas: Exactly. Each location has a small kitchen for preparing raw food and a bike bay for the delivery team. The retail floor is secondary. It's almost like a dark kitchen model, but with a storefront. Luna: I imagine the margins are pretty good without the cost of an online platform. Lucas: They are. She operates at about 22 percent net margin, which is impressive for retail. Typical pet supply stores are around 5 to 8 percent. By avoiding e-commerce, she saves on platform fees, payment processing markups, and return logistics. Her return rate is under 1 percent. Luna: Because customers can't order the wrong thing by clicking the wrong button — they talk to someone who asks the right questions. Lucas: Bingo. The phone call becomes a quality control moment. 'Your dog is a golden retriever, right? She's still on the salmon recipe?' That kind of thing. Luna: I wonder how many businesses would be better off if they just used the phone more. Lucas: That's actually the framework I want to land on. Megan didn't reject technology — she rejected the specific technology that would have commoditized her business. She uses a CRM, she uses text message marketing, she uses inventory software. She just doesn't use a public-facing website. Luna: So the question for a small business owner is: what technology actually strengthens your relationship with the customer versus what technology replaces it. Lucas: That's a perfect way to put it. And I think the mistake a lot of scaling businesses make is they assume digital is always better. But digital often strips out the human interaction that made the business work in the first place. Luna: You mentioned earlier that the show relies on listener support to stay ad-free. And I think that's similar — it's a direct relationship with the audience that makes it work. Lucas: Yeah, it really is. And we only mention it because a few dollars a month genuinely keeps these episodes coming. If you've ever found yourself using a mental framework from this show in your own work, buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo, lowercase fexingo, is where you can chip in. Luna: It's that simple. And it makes a real difference. Lucas: Anyway — back to Fetch & Feast. One last thing I want to highlight is how they handled the pandemic. While every other pet store was scrambling to build an online store, Megan just added more phones and hired more delivery riders. Within three weeks, they had doubled their subscription base. Luna: Because they already had the infrastructure. They just scaled what was working. Lucas: Exactly. And by the time competitors got their e-commerce sites up, Fetch & Feast had already locked in thousands of customers with a better experience. Their churn rate during 2020 was under 3 percent. Luna: That's a moat. A human moat. Lucas: A human moat — I'm stealing that. So the takeaway for this episode is not 'don't build a website.' It's 'ask yourself what core experience makes your business special, and protect that experience from being automated away.' For Fetch & Feast, that was the conversation with a person who knows your dog. Luna: And it worked to the tune of 30 million. Lucas: 30 million, no website, and a fleet of cargo bikes. Megan O'Neil is proof that the best digital strategy might be the one you don't use. Luna: I love that as a closing line.