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From Nerves to Knockdowns: Behind the Scenes of a Boxing Charity Fight · Off the Bench - London

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Malcolm the Milkman Noel and Scott the Visionary
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I'm Malcolm the Milkman. Scott the Visionary
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Hone. Let's get off the bench. Okay, that was
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good. I like it. I'm impressed. Fixing the intro
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just a little bit. Just to make, you know. Testing
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it out. Testing it out. You know. as well yeah
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i'm okay with it all right well as you all can
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see something different yeah let's see this non
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-alcoholic alcoholic it's time baby congratulations
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yeah right something's missing from up here what's
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missing i got this this nice shiny new trophy
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wait we have to get into that then we definitely
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have to get into that um so welcome to episode
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34 34. So there will be another episode in between.
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But, you know, how everything works, we'll make
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sure it makes sense. But... We got a lot going
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on. First off, as we're recording this, it's
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may the force be with you. May the force be with
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you. I'm still a Trekkie at heart, though. And,
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you know what I mean? You can be both. you know
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what the old wives tale is you can't be both
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you're one or the other i don't understand why
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like you can't be both like i feel like chucky
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is one of those it's so much more and then star
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wars has just released so much that it's like
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it is hard to be both because like it's just
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a lot of information oh for sure for sure for
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sure but like i don't know some of the new star
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trek stuff's pretty decent true true Some of
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the new Star Wars stuff is Star Wars stuff. Some
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Star Wars are good. Some Star Trek was okay.
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It's not the same as what it used to be, but
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it never will be. It's like with everything.
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When they just keep releasing things, they're
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like, well, people watch. But now you're just
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releasing stuff. I think one of the biggest issues
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now that we've grown older is that we have too
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much knowledge and we always can relate it to
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other things. Oh, yeah. When you're a kid, you
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have a clean slate, so everything that's being
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brought to you is fresh, and you can't relate
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it back to politics or religion. No, and it gets
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to the point where, like, at a certain point,
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the canon is too big, and directors are scared
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to do things. You can't take risks because the
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people will hate you. And you don't know who
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your target audience is anymore, right? For them
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before, it was the younger generation. But as
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you've grown older... The ones who have money,
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you kind of want to attract them because, you
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know, they're going to see it. So you kind of
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make it for the general, like the middle class
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or the middle aged. It's weird saying that we're
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middle aged now, but like. Speak for yourself,
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man. 30 and above is what I'm saying. 30 and
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above. 35 and above. Okay, we'll say 35 and above.
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But like, you know, you get to that age and it's
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just like. Yeah, you old people over there. You
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know what I mean? It's like, you guys have the
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money, so you guys can see it, but we really
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want, like, the 10 and under. Yeah. But it is
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what it is. Tangents. Gotta love it. Happy Star
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Wars Day, everybody. Happy Star Wars Day. You
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know it was a week ago. It was a week ago, but
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we're, you know, we'll backdate. Time travel
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is real. It's true. It's true. Or maybe I'll
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release this. Tomorrow? Who knows? Anything's
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possible. But, you know, screw that tangent.
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Screw that tangent. We're going to talk about
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this shiny trophy. Congratulations. You have
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officially graduated from Punch Out MS. Boy,
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does that feel good. That was a crazy experience.
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Let's talk about it, but let's not talk about
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the whole thing. We kind of did dive through.
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Yeah. I can talk about the event. That's what
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I mean. Let's talk about the event. Once you
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got there, what time did you get to the event
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at? So for starters, I was having to go to the
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store to pick up things for the day of just in
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case. I didn't need it, but I did pick up a white
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towel. Let's get into that part later. Yeah.
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But I had to get there. We had to get there at
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noon. Cut. So you get there at noon and then
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we didn't even go in right away. We're all just
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hanging out outside. Cut. Then we got our books.
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Not like book books, but like our player. I want
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to say player books because I played soccer,
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but like our boxing card books. Your boxing books.
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Your boxing passport. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I
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still don't know what I have to do with that
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now. So what I'll say with that is like. We can
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get into that after because I'm going to touch
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on that after. So anyway, we get there. Everybody
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goes in, and then we all congregated in one room
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at the entrance, hung out there for a little
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bit. Once everybody got through the door, they
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brought us upstairs to, like, the back room,
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like the boxing room. Room runners, yep. Upstairs
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in the attic, basically. Yeah. But they spot
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the chill. They had, I wasn't even expecting
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it, but they had, like, all this, like, kombucha
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from. Booch. Booch, yeah. Yeah, so they had all
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that, a bunch of catering. Shout out to Booch.
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Yeah, shout out to Booch. And as we had some
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food coming up there, because we're all up there
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and nobody's eating. Some guys were eating a
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lot and drinking a lot. I wonder why. Because
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they needed to go up. It's so weird, especially
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with this, because we all needed to be within
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10 pounds. Five kilograms, so 11 pounds. But
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you got guys trying to come up. You got guys
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trying to go down. So some guys aren't eating
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at all. They're sweating a whole bunch. And then
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other guys are drinking lots of water, eating
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as much as possible. One guy, AJ, he was just
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eating as much as possible. Drinking like six
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bottles of water. What? Pete, he had to go up
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a whole bunch. He's like... man i drank way too
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much water way too early and the entire like
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while we're waiting for weigh -ins he's like
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i gotta i gotta uh yeah so we do that and then
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uh they gave us a tour i showed us about like
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uh kind of walked us through what we're gonna
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be doing for the event so like you're upstairs
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in the room i walked us all downstairs downstairs
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through like uh the upper half yep down the stairs
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then you gotta go uh take it do your glove Grab
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your gloves. They throw those on you. Then you
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go around. Red goes in one room. Blue goes in
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another. And then you're just sitting there with
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your coach, ready, waiting. Waiting for someone
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to say, hey, you're up. And then you're just
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standing behind the curtain, getting ready. Then
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you hear your music go on. You hear your name.
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And then it's go time. So we learned all that.
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Then we go back upstairs. And then you're just
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like, okay, hanging out. We're just waiting.
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At this point, we're waiting for the refs to
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get all set up. Because then that's when they
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had to do all the weigh -ins, do the medical.
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So after a while, at this point, it's probably
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like 1 .15. So we've already been there for an
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hour and 15. And we're all just antsy, ready
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to go. Like, you're nervous. You're antsy. Your
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body's like, I don't know what to do. So we go
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down. You got your book. You got your paper that
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says, hey, there's nothing wrong with me. I'm
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good to fight. You go down, check your blood
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pressure, make sure you're healthy, go around,
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strip down, weigh in, which is funny because
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everyone was like, oh, man, I'm going to wear
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some heavy shorts if I'm underweight. And then
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they're just like, oh, no, strip down everything.
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Everything? Oh, not everything. You're in your
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boxers or whatever. Okay. But, yeah, you weigh
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in, go see the doctor. He does a couple tests.
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pushes on your head, lifts your arms up, asks
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you a few questions, checks your jaw, do a squat,
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just make sure you're good. Then you get the
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all clear. They take the book, and off you go,
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and then you're back upstairs. And at that point,
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it was like, by the time I had done that, it
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was maybe 1 .45. Keep in mind, doors were going
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to open at 2. Supposed to, yeah. Doors didn't
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open until a little bit later. I think part of
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that was planned that way there's a big crowd
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at the door. I think maybe that, but I do...
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I also think nobody told the people at the door
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to start letting people in. Because I heard people
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inside and they were just like, yeah, no, they're
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going to come in now. Do you get there in the
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ring? Still getting set up, right? At that point,
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the ring was still there. But when we first got
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there, the ring was like just the steel was there.
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We saw the wood getting put on the ring. And
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we're all standing out there. We're looking from
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up top. And you're looking and you're like, oh,
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my God, that ring is huge. And then they put
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that because they put the wood down and then
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they put the padding down, the canvas down. And
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then once they put the ropes on, you're like,
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okay, it's a little bit bigger. It's a big curtain
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on the edge, which makes sense. But you're like,
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okay, that ring is a lot bigger than I'm used
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to. So then you go through that, and you're like,
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man, this thing is huge. And it's tight in there.
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Yes, it is. So anyway, we're looking at the ring.
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drinks massive we're seeing it getting put together
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we're all antsy we're all like after the weigh
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-ins everyone's like either oh my god i can go
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to the bathroom finally i can take a leak take
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a dump whatever you gotta do yeah i can shed
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those pounds i was putting on just for this yep
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yep like i was saying aj was like a vanilla gorilla
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he was feeling like a million bucks after he
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went to the bathroom Oh, man. It was so funny.
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So, basically, Vanilla Gorilla. He crushed it.
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Vanilla Gorilla to Vanilla Ape. Yeah. Right?
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Because, like, the size difference from a gorilla
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and an ape. Yeah. Oh, man. It's crazy. Sheesh.
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Shout out to him. Yeah. He had a great fight.
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So, where was I? So, we're still upstairs. You
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go downstairs. You're hanging out. You're waiting.
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And the doors finally opened. And the crowd.
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It just, the floodgates opened. And people are
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like, I'm not even kidding. Like, running to
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get good seats. Yeah, yeah. There's no other
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choice, right? Like, running to get seats. It
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was crazy. So then you get that. And then they
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had the, obviously they made all the announcements
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at the beginning. Talking about all the money
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that was raised. Yep. still going on uh probably
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done now as this is released it's probably it'll
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be done now but you can still donate about a
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week after the event so when this does air you
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still be able to donate yes so if anyone missed
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out on the fights and still wants to donate there's
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still time no i and if you if you're looking
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trying to um watch one of the fights that has
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happened watch fights Canada on YouTube, you
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might see one of them once they eventually post
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it. So like and subscribe to him, Akava from
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Bushido. He does post them. So it's always good
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to see like local fighters. I'm looking forward
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to mine being on there. Sure. But so anyway,
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place is filling up. Yep. Once it gets packed,
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you start hearing like, it's getting closer to
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three. So they did all their announcements, and
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then the first fight was a demonstration, which
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I think is amazing that they do. You both worked
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with Hutton House. You got the Hutton House sweater
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on. I had to. So we've both worked with people
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with disabilities and barriers. And one of the
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cool things is at the beginning of this, they
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bring a guy out with a disability to do a demonstration.
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And obviously the entire crowd, everyone kind
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of knows what's going to happen. But as someone
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that had that experience, that experience is
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insane. For those kids, that's amazing. They
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train just like we do. 100%. Maybe it's not the
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same. It's not the same sparring. It's not exactly
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the same. they get to experience the same feeling.
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Yes. And it's really cool. And the coolest part
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of it is the entire crowd gets on board. It's
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a great representation. Yeah. And it just shows
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you that, like, it's not like everyone's like,
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oh, whatever, we'll just be quiet. Like, people
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are going bananas for Zack Attack. True, true.
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I believe it's called Fierce Fitness. yeah uh
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fierce fitness when i was there and i saw that
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it was like it's good because it kind of sets
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the tone that as much as we're here for a boxing
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match we're also here for like a good cause yeah
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we're here supporting the community and it does
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outline that aspect very very well and like everyone's
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cheering so you can it's like a sound check to
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make sure everyone could still yeah cheer for
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your fighter and like you know get a good it
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kind of is a sound check yeah In a sense. Yeah.
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See how loud the bill is? It was great. But anyway,
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so watching the fights, like, it's cool watching
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the fights where you're just like, I know that
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guy. Right. I know, like, I know exactly, like,
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you have a feeling how things are going to play
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out. Yeah. But at the same time, everyone has
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a plan until they get hit in the face. I'll get
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into that in a minute. Well, no. Yeah. There's
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still. Circle back. Yeah. Anyway, so a few fights
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go by. They were great fights. and I'm just up
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there. I'm like, okay, I'm going to go wrap my
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hands. Question before that, were you able to,
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like, watch some of the fights? Yeah. And, like,
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who were you watching those fights with? Like,
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were you watching with your fans or, like? Yeah,
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we were watching them with our people. Well,
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I was downstairs. Well, yeah, you were downstairs.
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So, like, I only know what I know because I was
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in the action. Yeah, no, we were upstairs looking
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down on the fights from, ironically, as close
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as possible to the fighter room. Okay. So we
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could see all the people coming out were coming
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right behind us. The hilarious thing is our group,
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we're all watching. The group beside us was my
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opponent's squad. I can't wait. Can't wait. Can't
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wait. I will get into what their team did in
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a little bit. Shout out to him. He's a warrior.
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So anyway, we start getting closer and closer.
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And I'm like, all right, I got to go wrap my
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gloves. Got to go put my stuff on. I hear my
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name called. I'm like, all right, it's go time.
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Run by. Say my last farewells to everybody. At
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this point, we're like. Were you nervous? I was
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so nervous. Okay, so I'll tell you the parts
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that did not help at all. Okay, let's go. So
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we go downstairs. I fly down the stairs. Hassan,
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my opponent, he was down there already. His coach
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is right there, Yuli. She's amazing. So we're
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like. All right. And she looks at us and she's
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like, you guys didn't bring your headgear? And
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we both look at each other like, we're supposed
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to bring headgear? So the headgear was up in
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the room. So she's like, it's okay. I got it.
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And she just like sprints upstairs. Okay. She's
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amazing. So she comes down, fits with the headgear.
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She tightened mine up nice. Okay. Which I'm super
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thankful for. Because that was one of my big
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worries. What was? I've seen a lot of amateur
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boxing matches when the headgear isn't snug and
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it keeps like falling down or like falling off.
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Anyway, so we get that on. We get our gloves
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and I'm still standing there and she's like,
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oh my God, you're wearing blue shorts and a blue
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top and it's blue on blue. You need a line. So
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she's like, okay, we need tape. So then she's
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scrambling. And I'm just like, I know things
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are coming up fast. Things are coming up fast.
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And I'm just like, this is not helping my nerves
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at all. And now I'm stressing. Instead of stressing
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about the fight, I'm stressing about tape. You're
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stressing about the logistics before you can
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even get into the ring. Exactly. And then you
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come around the corner. And then we find tape.
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We found two tapes. Yeah, because this one is
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the one I come around. And Yuli's like, yo. We
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need to get tape. I was like, I got you. So what?
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Oh, it was like scotch tape. It kept ripping.
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You know when you can't rip tape? It's one of
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the most frustrating things ever is when you
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have like scotch tape and you get a line and
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then it breaks off and then you have to start.
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So if anyone's ever tried to rip tape and make
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a belt with it as fast as humanly possible because
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they need to be warming up. to fight someone
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in front of 300 people in five minutes. Like,
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the counter's going. And we're just like, oh,
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my God. Here, give it to me. Trying to get it.
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And then we ended up finding, like, lime green
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tape. It was, like, neon green. Anyway, so we
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do the belt out of that. So we get that wrapped
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around. I... get everything back on we head into
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the room we do a little bit of warm -ups but
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at this point like i was i was so nervous like
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i don't know if you could tell when we were in
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the room but i was like can't feel my arms nervous
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and so we're like okay all right and then they
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then jay came in yep and while you were warming
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up and you're just like oh jay you want to do
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some warm -ups and he's like no you got this
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Give me a little pep talk. That's when I started
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doing pad work with you. Yeah, I did a little
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bit of pad work, got a little bit of warm up.
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But like, man, at that point, I was like, I should
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have warmed up a little bit more. I should have
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been down there earlier. I'm like, I'm nervous.
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And like, none of that helped at all. So then
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we're like, standing there, we're waiting. We're
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like, all right, you ready to go? We're waiting
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behind the curtain, standing there, trying to
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breathe. I hear my name. I hear the music start.
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Almost trip over the curtain getting out. And
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then I'm like, in my head, I'm just like, sorry,
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just before I was like going out, I was just
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like, like, you could feel the anxiety. Is that
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possible? Yeah. I'm kidding. Like I, okay. I
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talked so much shit before this. Everyone's like,
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are you nervous? Like, Nah, man, I'm just excited.
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I'm just excited. I feel like I was trying to
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talk myself into it. And then like the walk down,
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I'm just like, my, the first walking the stage,
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I feel like I wish if I could go back and have
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less anxiety, I would do it slower and maybe
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look around more. That's underrated. Yeah, but
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it was, I was like, head down, focus. Get down
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the stairs. Started like jamming to the song
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a little bit. Tried to high five a little kid
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on the way through. What did you actually? I
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tried. I don't know. I was like, I feel like
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I almost like swung on the kid. But yeah, I'm
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like, all right, cool. Get up there, climb the
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ropes. And I got to the top. I'm like, oh, yeah,
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I guess I get in. So I get in. I'm like bouncing
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around a little bit, like ready to go. But at
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this point, I'm like, like, the adrenaline dump
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is real. And, like, the adrenaline of, like,
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being in front of that many people. Like, not
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many people have stood in front of a crowd of
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300 plus people that are just looking at that.
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Yes, yes. And, like, also, I've never been in,
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like, a real fight. You know? So you're just
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like, all right. Holy, I got to walk over there
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and I may get. destroyed who i don't even know
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what's gonna happen yeah it's because at this
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point you're kind of going in blind because you
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don't know what your opponent's gonna do you
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haven't really seen him trained so you don't
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know if he's been training behind the scenes
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yeah so like so reality is about to hit you in
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a few minutes it was so nerve -wracking and the
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like you walk up your face we're face to face
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talk to the ref touch gloves and you're just
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like man this is it walk back to the corner That
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bell rings, and he came out. Before we even go
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to that, you go back into your, so you touch
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gloves, you go back into your corner. What was
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going through your head at that exact moment?
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Like, you hear the ding -ding. You're in your,
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sorry, you're in your corner. Like, here we go.
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You're breathing, and then you hear that ding
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-ding. Like, what happened at that moment? At
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that point, like, I was literally so anxious.
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And you're just like, I, like, you. lose track
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of yourself you're like i was i training for
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this holy like you can't like you can never prepare
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yourself for that first initial and meanwhile
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while we were dicking around with tape and all
24:17
this he was in his room warming up getting his
24:21
getting his pep talks get like getting a little
24:24
sweat on so he's like getting ready and he's
24:27
like I'm ready to go. Meanwhile, I'm just like,
24:30
yes, we warmed up, but I was like, anxiety attack
24:35
ready. But that first round. Walk me through
24:42
it. Walk me, like, piece me through that first
24:44
round. And just the first round. So, like, we
24:50
go through the, he comes out, he came out hard.
24:53
Yep. And I knew he was going to come out hard.
24:57
I just didn't know how, like how hard. I, so
25:02
he comes out and you know, when you just forget
25:05
everything, you know, and you're just like, I'm
25:09
fighting. I was like, my brain is like, we're
25:11
fighting for our life in here. He got me with
25:14
a few and I was just like, you know, when you're
25:17
just like not ready, you're like, you're not
25:19
thinking. And if it like none of them, like,
25:22
I don't know, because of the adrenaline, nothing
25:25
was. It didn't hurt getting hit. It just felt
25:30
like being pushed. And then you're getting pushed
25:33
and you're just like, you're swinging and you're
25:35
like hitting nothing. And you're just like trying
25:38
to like get oriented because he came out so,
25:43
so fast that I was just like getting like thrown
25:46
around. I'm just like, what is happening? Like
25:48
what? Like my brain is going, why did we do this?
25:52
Like this was dumb. Were you regretting it at
25:54
that point? For a second. Okay. And then he let
26:01
off a little bit. I got to, like, get in. And
26:07
then that bell rang. I was like, all right, take
26:11
a little breather. Okay. So let's dive deep.
26:13
So in the first round, I want to save it. I want
26:17
to save it for the end. Save it for the end.
26:20
The one thing I'll say is, in that first round,
26:23
was it more like, The jitters were kicking in.
26:27
Yeah, 100%. It got to the point where you're
26:30
just like, I'm fighting for my life. I'm not
26:32
focusing on my training. Yeah. You're just like,
26:35
I don't know what happened. Were you breathing
26:38
at all during that first round? I have no idea.
26:42
Maybe. Allegedly. Obviously, it was a two -minute
26:45
round. A lot of things can happen. Minutes is
26:48
so long. Women, two minutes is long. During that
26:53
whole time, there's a lot of adrenaline, a lot
26:56
of things are going on. At any point during that
27:00
first round, were you like, what am I doing?
27:02
I need to get my act together? Yeah. It was probably
27:07
like, I want to say maybe 30, 40 seconds in when
27:14
I was just like, all right, I got to figure something
27:17
out. What I'm doing right now, ain't it? Yeah.
27:20
And there's a lot of eyes on me. True, true.
27:23
Now, did you hear like the 10 second, like the
27:26
clap? Yes. Okay. What was going through your
27:29
mind during that 10 seconds in that first round?
27:31
If you can play that back. I need to get the
27:34
round back. Okay. So then you, so then, ding,
27:39
separate, you go back into your corner. Jay's
27:43
obviously the lead. Yeah. So you had Jay, you
27:46
had Denise, and I was the third. Yeah. What was
27:49
going on? The biggest thing I remember hearing
27:52
was Jay screaming in my face going, did he hurt
27:57
you? And I was like, no, I'm good. And he's like,
28:01
no, but like, did any, like, are you, you're
28:04
good? I'm like, yeah, I'm good. And then he's
28:07
like, okay, then what are we doing? Move, move
28:11
your head, get down, start moving and go. He's
28:15
like. In my head, I'm also going, okay, those
28:18
are his best. Those are his best shots. If I
28:20
can weather that, I'm not going down. And then
28:26
that second round. Okay. Let's go into it. Ding,
28:30
ding. Second round. I was like, I got to get
28:35
my get back. Okay. So I came out hard knowing.
28:38
Okay. So before we talk about it. Why was it
28:42
so important for you to get your get back? What
28:44
did you say to him that you need to get this
28:46
get back? Oh, our bet? I said, well, I said a
28:51
lot of things. But no, we had our bet. And? The
28:59
bet was winner buys the loser a beer. And I kept
29:05
asking him what kind of beer he wants. And he
29:07
never gave you an answer. Yeah. So I wanted to
29:09
find out what beer he wanted. Fair enough. So
29:12
ding, ding, round two. So I come out hard. So
29:17
before that, while I'm in the corner, I know
29:22
he's in the corner going, he's all like, I had
29:26
a really good round. I got this. He's all smiles.
29:30
The crowd's. Oh, my God. The crowd was on his
29:34
side. So his crew. talk to the people beside
29:39
them. And there was a big group up there, all
29:43
on the upper level. They had a bunch of beers.
29:48
And they were like, hey, we'll cheer for your
29:51
guy if you cheer for our guy. Oh, my God. So
29:55
on top of all this, round one, I was anxious.
30:03
I'm like, what's going on? I'm hearing boos.
30:09
Like, I'm hearing people chanting for him. H2.
30:13
Yeah. H2, whoa. So that second round, I was like,
30:18
no, I got this. Like I said to my coach, I was
30:24
like, no, I got this. Like, I'm ready. You might
30:28
have heard that. When Jay's telling me stuff,
30:33
I'm like, yes, coach, I got this. Because I had
30:36
also. been talking shit to i'll see this uh who
30:40
was in hassan's corner yep and uh making jokes
30:47
like i i'll see this is like hey is it like this
30:51
is i we know each other yeah and he's like hey
30:53
uh is it cool if i like i'm in his corner and
30:56
i was like hey man it's all good with me as long
30:59
as you're fine with being on the losing side
31:01
and then i'm just like after that first round
31:03
i'm like oh oh my god what did i just say what
31:05
did i do I'm like, oh, no. So anyway, because
31:10
of that, I come out hard the second. Come out
31:13
hard the second. And what happened in that second
31:15
round? I'm feeding him, getting him with some
31:18
shots, working the body. Apparently, I was listening
31:24
to my coach. I don't remember hearing things.
31:27
It was because obviously I was the third. And
31:30
Jay was literally saying, he would say, like,
31:32
use your uppercut. Boom, there's an uppercut.
31:35
Hit the body. boom you're hitting the body like
31:38
anytime jay said something it was honestly like
31:41
you automatically did it and it was just and
31:44
jay was just like yo like what like i've never
31:48
had a fire actually listen accordingly he's like
31:51
even i don't do that properly yeah so i was like
31:55
my i adrenaline i'm just i'm just going like
32:00
we train we do all this training like i just
32:04
You're only as good as your coaches. Shout out
32:07
to Jay. And I'm just like, I'm going to do what
32:11
I'm told. But in there, there was one where I
32:15
got him with a couple shots. And I know once
32:18
I got him a couple times, he was trying to tie
32:20
up. But then the one time I just turned and threw
32:23
him on the ground to the booze of the crowd.
32:26
Yes. And then they started chanting for him.
32:30
And then the rounds continuing. Get him with
32:33
a couple more shots. And then I got him with
32:35
a beautiful cross. This right hand, I dropped
32:40
him. In the second, that one felt so good. And
32:45
I, like, dropped him. And then, like, for a second,
32:47
I just, like, stood over him. Because I was like,
32:48
oh, right. Like, go back into the neutral corner.
32:51
And I talked to him. He's like, man. Like, I
32:55
talked to him after the fight. And he's like.
32:57
I've never been dropped like that before in my
33:00
life. But like he was saying, he just like stood,
33:02
like sat up and he's just seeing lights. Then
33:06
he got up, his credit, got back in there. We
33:12
kept going and I finished off the round. Yeah,
33:17
you hear that 10 seconds? You know you got to
33:19
go a little bit longer. Yep. And I think he gassed
33:24
himself out in the first. He was like, I got
33:26
to give him everything. And then so I get back
33:30
in the corner and I hear from Jay's like, that's
33:33
a boxer. Yes. That's what you got to do. Like
33:37
now you're boxing. And I think that first round
33:40
was all nerves. That second round was like nerves,
33:43
but also like adrenaline and the coaching. It
33:47
started kicking in more. And then I'm like. All
33:50
right. At this point, I'm like excited for the
33:52
third round. So I'm ready now. Great. And obviously
33:56
I'm ready. And I'm like, I know he's not as ready
33:59
as I am. Because like, it's hard to get up from
34:02
that. True. To his credit. And then we go on
34:04
the third and he's still swinging. I'm still
34:09
swinging. We, I don't know. I gotta keep watching
34:15
it back. There's like some times where I was
34:17
like, he's getting me on the ropes. I just kept
34:20
trying to spin out and try and control it, get
34:23
him in the corner. Cause I know once you're in
34:28
the corner, you can't back out of it. And then
34:31
go ahead. Then they start feeling it. Cause you're
34:34
like, you can't back up. But the craziest part
34:38
is when you're hitting someone in there, it's
34:41
like, it feels like fighting when you have that
34:44
much anxiety and adrenaline in your system. Cause
34:47
like, I feel like I could have punched a wall
34:50
and not felt it. But it's also like he's feeling
34:53
the same thing. So like you're throwing shots,
34:55
you're delivering shots, you're taking shots.
34:58
But like it's like that dream moment when you're
35:01
like, my God, it doesn't matter how hard I hit
35:04
him. It doesn't do anything. Yes. But then in
35:09
the end, I got him. I dropped him one more time
35:13
in the third. I. Got him with some jabs. Got
35:19
him with that right hand again. And he stumbled.
35:25
He sat down. And the ref gave him a count. This
35:29
furiates me. Like, I'm happy because I'll tell
35:34
you what. When you dropped him and there was
35:36
about 15 seconds left, it was a clean drop. It
35:39
was clean, but you could also justify it as a
35:41
slip. Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't. It didn't feel
35:47
as good, like, quite as the same as the first
35:49
one. The first one, I was also like, that was
35:51
crazy. But the second one, I didn't think the
35:54
ref was going to stop it. Here's the issue, though.
35:57
He never kept his hands up. His hands were down,
36:00
and he went into the corner. So his hands were
36:02
down, and he was just in the corner. And it was
36:04
just like, if he was out of the corner, not leaning
36:08
on the ropes, and had his hands up, ready to
36:12
fight, the ref would have continued it on. Yeah,
36:14
I think... Like, that's kind of it. I think the
36:19
ref's perspective is if I send him out there,
36:23
he's just going to eat another hit and go...
36:28
Potentially. Potentially. And again, this is
36:31
all like... Speculation. Speculation. But it's
36:34
all like the ref's job is there to protect people.
36:39
Like, I kept getting, like, I think we both,
36:41
both of us were kind of annoyed that the ref
36:43
kept stopping it for, like, holding. And, like,
36:47
he was stopping it fairly frequently. Yes. So
36:52
you can't really get into a groove. Yeah, and
36:53
a lot of them, you're like, okay, but, like,
36:56
that time, neither of us were actually holding.
36:59
And, like, when he stops it, you're, like, out
37:01
of the rhythm. And it takes, like, four or five
37:04
seconds. And you're like, okay. But at the same
37:08
time, it is a nice breather. It is. But yeah,
37:11
got that stoppage to the booze of crowds. Obviously,
37:18
15 seconds, you dropped them. You get the eight
37:21
count to the point where it's a 10 count. Yeah.
37:25
And then ref calls it. With 15 seconds left.
37:29
In the match. So you finished three rounds. Yeah.
37:31
And you get to still join the TKO crowd. Yeah.
37:35
Congratulations on joining the TKO crowd. Now
37:37
you know how it feels to stop. It was insane.
37:40
So, hey, well, and on that note, for joining
37:43
the TKO crowd. Yeah. Oh, my. This is the biggest
37:46
line I've ever seen in my life. How is this supposed
37:48
to get in? All right. Cheers. Hasan, this one's
37:52
for you. Corona, that's the beer you asked for.
37:55
Is it? So it's over. Yeah. So then you get your
37:57
lovely trophy. Got my trophy. Got my possible
38:02
opponent for next year. He did call you up for
38:05
a rematch. He also jokes a lot. But for starters,
38:09
I could not have wished for a better opponent,
38:14
partner to do this with. He is such a great guy.
38:21
It's rare that you can... joke around talk so
38:28
much shit to each other but like in the back
38:31
room even before the fight we're just like joking
38:34
around like laughing hanging out we're like we're
38:37
in this experience together and like it's amazing
38:42
well it's funny because earlier he started saying
38:46
you know once he's finished with you he wants
38:48
to move up to the ladder and take me on yeah
38:51
he wants you to come down to 185 though we were
38:54
at like 205. So he can drop down easily. He's
39:00
got to drop 20 pounds. You got to drop 60 pounds.
39:03
I said I would. I said I would. If that's what
39:08
he wants, I'll drop down 60. Right? It was an
39:14
amazing experience. Then he called you up for
39:16
a rematch. He's like, next year, next year. But
39:20
it's funny because before he was... At the beginning
39:23
of this, he was like... No, I'm just going to
39:25
do this once. And retire. I think doing that,
39:27
it might have given him the bug. It's potential.
39:30
But we'll see. Like, that was an amazing fight.
39:33
And I know for a fact, if we're down the line,
39:37
if we end up running it back, I am going to train
39:40
so much harder. Like, I trained hard. Yeah. Well,
39:44
hopefully by then I'll have my coaching license,
39:46
and then we'll be good. Man. But what a crazy
39:50
experience. honestly like like going out there
39:54
getting your arm getting that arm raised yeah
39:57
so obviously for a lot of a lot of people who
39:59
may not have been able to get just hearing your
40:01
story there just imagine 16 other fighters going
40:04
through something similar two other fighters
40:06
there are 31 other fighters 31 other fighters
40:08
going through that exact same experience and
40:11
then there's the encore show where like the the
40:15
music hall was like the novice tournament all
40:18
a lot of them were novice or First -time fighters.
40:22
First -time fighters. Some first -time fighters
40:24
coming back for their victory tour or victory
40:27
lap, you could say. And then, obviously, the
40:29
encore show, it's a mix of both where some experience
40:32
and some non. A little bit more female fighters
40:35
as well. I think there was only two female fighters.
40:39
Four, but two female fights. Two female fights
40:42
in this one. There's probably about... They're
40:43
warriors, man. About the equivalent later on.
40:46
No, it was honestly great. It was fun to see
40:49
you. It was fun to see... Cassius' dad. Yeah.
40:53
Come out there, Mr. Loose Change himself. Yeah.
40:56
Come out and, man, you can tell that he lives
41:01
in the same household as a natural change man.
41:03
Yeah. But, yeah, going back to your fight. So,
41:06
okay, this sounds weird. I'm going to say it.
41:09
But, obviously, we did this whole thing for MS.
41:13
Yeah. Punch out MS. My fight. Felt almost similar
41:20
to what Gus was describing when he first found
41:25
out he had MS. Oh, do tell, do tell. So I'm up
41:28
there. I'm like nervous. I'm not sure what to
41:34
do. I have no idea what's going on. Yeah, I have
41:40
my doctors, my people saying like, okay, do this,
41:44
do this, do this. But you still have no idea
41:47
what to expect. You have no idea how, you don't
41:50
know how MS is going to hit you. Like your opponent,
41:54
you don't know how it's going to hit you. Exactly.
41:56
And sometimes, like Hasan, comes out, MS can
42:01
come out swinging. A -makers, A -makers, A -makers.
42:05
And at that, you first, you got your bat, you're
42:08
having your battle, and you're just like, oh
42:10
my God, how am I going to deal with this? And
42:14
then eventually, you take a breath. You talk
42:18
to some people, your coaches, your doctors, your
42:20
family. They're like, no, you got this. You can
42:25
do it. It's not hitting you that bad. You're
42:29
okay. Fight back. So then you start doing treatments.
42:34
You start doing all these things. You start swinging
42:39
back. And then you have your first positive step,
42:43
that first knockdown, the first round that's
42:45
good. And then you have, and you're like, you
42:48
got momentum. And now you're like, okay, it's
42:51
not that bad. I can live with this, but I still
42:55
got to keep fighting. The fight is not over.
42:58
Luckily for me, after that, the fight is over.
43:02
But like, not everybody can, like, the fight
43:04
for MS is not over. Correct. It's lifelong. For
43:09
us, being able to step into the ring like that,
43:12
we get to, we're choosing to get in. But we get
43:16
to get out. They're not choosing to get in and
43:20
they never get to get out. It's the reality of
43:22
it. So that's why events like this, it put it
43:26
in perspective for me. Well, just also think
43:29
of it like this. It's like whether or not 300
43:33
plus people knew about what MS was. Exactly.
43:36
They left knowing the experience of knowing what
43:41
MS or seeing what MS because you just saw people
43:44
get into the right. didn't know what they were
43:46
fighting for, fight, and now you get to hear
43:49
that story. I think it's cool being able to share
43:51
these stories because you're like, nobody in
43:53
the crowd, they don't see the anxiety you're
43:56
feeling. They don't see the way you're having
44:00
to fight, the way you're in there. You feel like
44:03
you're fighting for your life. You feel like
44:08
you're all alone in there. Maybe the crowd's
44:11
booing you. You feel like you're all alone. You're
44:14
like, what is happening? I can't do this. Yeah,
44:17
especially during your fight. And then you got
44:21
to talk to the right people. Yep. Talk to your
44:24
people and start fighting back and doing what
44:29
you can. That's true. But yeah, no, I think that
44:32
was an amazing experience. If anyone wants to
44:34
get into those experiences. Talk to us. 10%.
44:38
Do it. Yeah. Reach out to us if you have any
44:41
questions and you want to get into it. Yeah.
44:43
We got you covered. Let's see if I can rope him
44:45
in. I can definitely rope you in. If you are
44:47
thinking of getting into the ring or just finding
44:49
Wasey, you can get involved with one of the charity
44:53
groups, whether it's Punch Out MS, Rock Out MS.
44:56
as the bike ride there's also tons of other charity
44:59
events going on especially other boxing events
45:01
going on um hopefully eventually fight 10 will
45:05
come back and you know there's another opportunity
45:07
where you can still make an impact on the community
45:09
so okay i gotta give a big shout out to uh eco
45:14
architectural glass go ahead go ahead my work
45:17
i everybody there a bunch i got a bunch of donations
45:21
from there they sponsored me and Between everything,
45:26
I think I was top four in donations. I'm making
45:30
my final push this week. Yeah. As of the fight,
45:34
I was top four. Yes. It's funny because when
45:37
I hit 1 ,000, that Juan, one of the organizers,
45:46
he was also at 1 ,000. So being the guy that
45:50
I am. You may notice on my thing, there's a $1
45:53
donation. I am definitely going to make sure
45:56
I clip this and tag Juan. Just so he knows. Okay,
46:00
so I did that. And I was like, ha, I'm winning.
46:02
And then I got two more donations from people
46:07
from work. And I was like, oh, I didn't even
46:09
need to be a weasel. I thought it was great.
46:13
I loved it. That's great. Shout out to everybody
46:16
that donated. uh great cause great people everybody
46:21
that went to the event everybody that participated
46:23
in the event you're all everybody's everybody's
46:25
a warrior uh it takes gigantic balls to step
46:30
in that ring yep like it's insane um obviously
46:33
shout out to my mom for uh not coming having
46:36
anxiety all day yes until i told her man like
46:40
how happy was your mom though after finding out
46:43
that you won your fight I did pretty good. Let
46:45
me rephrase this. How relieved was your mom that
46:49
you made it out of that rink? Yeah, seriously.
46:53
Yeah, it's not necessarily being happy. It's
46:55
being relieved that you survived. Yeah, exactly.
46:58
Sheesh. But hey, that whole journey was amazing.
47:04
Now you understand why I roped you into it. Yeah.
47:06
Thank you. Hey, cheers. Cheers. Thanks, coach.
47:10
Honestly, no. I'm looking forward for the encore.
47:14
It made so much more fun watching these fights,
47:16
knowing everybody, and not having the anxiety
47:19
of having to do it halfway through the event.
47:21
Honestly, for me, it was weird. Obviously, I
47:24
wasn't fighting. I was obviously cheering for,
47:26
like, as many fighters. And it's hard because,
47:28
like, I'm in one person's corner. Yeah, it's
47:30
weird because you're, like, bouncing back and
47:31
forth. But I'm cheering. I want to cheer for
47:32
the other person, but I can't cheer for the other
47:34
person because I'm helping. I'll see this because
47:36
I ended up helping him out and being his number
47:38
two in a lot of the events. And it was like...
47:41
you know what i can get used to this yeah get
47:43
your license so yeah it's um it's definitely
47:46
gonna be there obviously you know being a coach
47:50
either or whether it's mbt or boomers would be
47:52
great um but yeah i definitely want to get that
47:55
experience of you know getting to the ring and
47:57
being a head coach at least um and there's a
48:00
lot of things that i saw during uh that that
48:04
fight card on sunday but That's not here or there.
48:07
It's amateur boxers getting into the ring, making
48:09
an impact. And you're going to see the same thing.
48:12
Amateur boxers on the encore show. I can't even
48:15
speak to that. And I'm looking forward to that
48:17
because I get to be on that one. You know, when
48:20
you're at the music hall, it's weird because
48:23
you have 300 people looking at you, walking down
48:26
those stairs, going into that ring. And it's
48:29
like, there's no going back now. No. No, it's
48:32
like terrifying. It's like there's no going back.
48:35
You're getting to the ring. You just have to
48:37
get the job done. Yeah. And it's like technically
48:40
the job. Like at that point, you're scared for
48:44
yourself. You don't realize your opponent is
48:46
the same boat. Yes. Yeah. And it is. You did
48:50
picture it perfectly and analyze it perfectly.
48:53
It's like when you see two boxers going to the
48:56
ring. The anxiety, what's going through their
49:00
head, does describe exactly what Gus was telling
49:03
us on our episode previously about how you don't
49:06
know. You don't know. Right? It's not like he's
49:09
going to get out of the ring and talk to his
49:11
coach about it. You can talk to his doctors and
49:13
so forth. But he's living that life. And I want
49:16
to do a huge shout out for Gus again. Thank you
49:19
for coming on the show. And definitely letting
49:21
us know what it is like living with MS at any
49:26
level. Well, like just hearing people's stories
49:29
like that was so much fuel. Another great example
49:33
is there was one of the women fights that happened
49:35
later in the show. Michelle, she was they did
49:38
a huge tribute for her because her mom was just
49:41
recently diagnosed with MS. Yeah. And I know
49:43
Natalie Sweets because I had a conversation privately.
49:46
She was fighting with one of her friends because
49:48
her friends was recently diagnosed with MS. So
49:51
it's just like the whole world. it was kind of
49:54
shifting and like everyone who got into that
49:57
ring had a story to tell or they're fighting
50:00
for someone else to tell their story. Well, like,
50:03
uh, like hearing about like, uh, coworkers that
50:07
have MS. I, my, my uncle, actually, I had never,
50:11
I guess I never really mentioned this, but, uh,
50:13
my uncle and my mom's brother, Ron, he passed
50:16
away. He, he unfortunately lost his battle. Obviously
50:19
there is, there's no winning the battle. Yeah.
50:21
uh but uh this was years ago now but he went
50:25
through his battle with ms and i was young at
50:28
the time i didn't understand any of it and all
50:30
of a sudden he was like i remember as a kid helping
50:33
him tie his shoes and not understand like he
50:35
like walked with a cane like slowly just progressively
50:39
worse and worse and eventually he was just bedridden
50:41
and uh but yeah it was it affects everybody And
50:48
especially in Canada where it's 1 in 11 have
50:52
a chance of getting MS. Yeah. So, like, that's
50:55
significant. So, honestly, I'm glad that we are
51:00
able to do our part. We're also grateful that
51:03
a lot of our guests have done their parts and
51:06
so forth. So, you know. Powerful, man. Yeah.
51:11
Yeah. Just, yeah. But I'm looking forward to.
51:17
another great showcase by the uh the chair so
51:20
like the fight the fight is not done the fight
51:23
will never be done the fight is never done but
51:26
i have a question for you are you retiring after
51:28
this i don't know we'll see i hate that yeah
51:31
i know i hate that answer i hate that answer
51:35
you know like for me after fight 10 i kind of
51:38
retired yeah you know yeah i talked like during
51:42
the training not publicly Not publicly. I never
51:45
talked trash to my opponent. In the gym, I talked
51:48
trash. But once I got that TKO at that time,
51:54
I was just like, okay, I'm good. I had 1 -0.
51:58
Yeah, wait until you're on the losing side of
51:59
a round. True. Yeah. Maybe one day. Maybe at
52:05
the encore show. I have no clue about my opponent.
52:09
Yeah. Second round or second fight I did. He
52:13
was a great fighter to fight with. But you don't
52:16
know. It's exactly it. Like the anxiety. You've
52:19
had a couple fights under your belt. I don't
52:23
have that anxiety going to the ring now. Yeah.
52:25
Because I've already scouted you. I already know
52:28
what you're going to do. And I'm going to counter.
52:30
I even had that during my first fight because
52:32
I got to see my opponent actively. So I wasn't
52:35
too worried. All I just knew is I had to win
52:38
or I would never hear the end of it. But, man.
52:43
Me going to my third one. I do not fault anyone.
52:47
Everybody that went out in that ring won. Yeah,
52:52
whether your record is 0 -1 -1 or 1 -0. I don't
52:56
care. It doesn't matter. You won because you
52:59
got it to that rate. Because I can tell you,
53:01
not even half of the people in that building
53:03
would ever step in the ring. Yeah, and there's
53:06
a bunch of armchair experts. that are like, oh,
53:10
yeah, do this, do this, do this. You're like,
53:12
no, you do that. Like the Mike Tyson quote, everyone
53:17
has a plan until they get punched in the head.
53:20
I had a plan. I got punched in the head. That
53:23
plan went out the window. Then I reset and had
53:25
a new plan. Yes. Yes. A plan that worked a lot
53:29
easier once my opponent had less energy. Yes.
53:32
Yes. Oh, man. Well, I'm happy everything went
53:36
well. Yeah. Cheers again to a successful evening.
53:40
Obviously, your friends, family. Such a great
53:42
night. Friends and family and coworkers all there.
53:44
Yeah, it was amazing. So, shout out to your company
53:48
that sponsored you. Honestly, with that event,
53:52
obviously, like I was saying earlier, loose change.
53:56
And, like, it was both sons who were, like, top
54:00
at their fields of boxing. And then their dad's
54:03
gone into the ring to face each other. And, like,
54:07
I saw Chris last year fight, and then seeing
54:10
him against Nathan, it was great to see. And
54:14
you can see the heart was out there for both
54:20
of them. I know Nathan said he's going to retire
54:23
at 45. Is he like 44 and a half right now? He
54:26
just turned 45. He retired at 45. His birthday
54:31
was April 8th, the same day as my brother. Oh,
54:34
sick. He retired. He's done 2 -0. Chris, you
54:42
know what? That guy's a warrior. He gave it his
54:45
all. I hope he doesn't retire because there's
54:47
so much more in his tank, and you can see it.
54:50
Yeah. Shout -out to, like, tons of the funders.
54:54
Shout -out to, like, all the gyms that came out
54:55
to support from Championship City to Boomers.
55:00
Boomers, Bushido. Bushido. Shout -out to Will,
55:03
who on short notice. decided to fight the vanilla
55:06
gorilla yeah like that was that was that could
55:09
have gone either way and then shout out to some
55:11
of the rest man like heather it was great it
55:14
was great to see how they're in the ring yeah
55:15
reffing some of those fights it's cool like it's
55:20
cool seeing people you like i have talked to
55:23
now because like i we talk to people and then
55:27
i'm like oh see you and like yeah in your field
55:29
doing it i'm like anytime i saw like i saw heather
55:33
obviously All the refs did an amazing job. Whether
55:36
it's Heather, Brett, and I can't remember the
55:39
lead, but she was also amazing. And she's been
55:41
at all my fights. She's absolutely stunning.
55:45
And you can see that she was teaching some of
55:47
the newer refs, the officials, the rules, because
55:51
they might have got it wrong. And she was like,
55:52
no, you got to do this. And the way she was doing
55:54
it, for the safety of everybody. And everyone
55:57
has a lot to learn. But it was cool because the
55:59
refs are there because they're just like, okay.
56:02
Like, I can't imagine how hard it is reffing.
56:05
Maybe one day. Boxing. Maybe one day. Because
56:07
you're in there. Obviously, the ref might have,
56:10
they probably have anxiety too. Obviously, the
56:13
more they do it, the less anxiety you have. But
56:15
you're in there with two adrenaline jumps. Yep.
56:21
Anxiety ridden. Yep. Scared, excited. Yep. Energetic.
56:26
Two people. who may have never done this before.
56:29
And your job is to keep them safe. True, true,
56:33
true. And figure out who's doing the better job.
56:36
True. Which is crazy. True. Also, you know, on
56:39
that note, the other thing I have to do a huge
56:42
shout out is, obviously I wasn't on the card,
56:45
and my sponsor sponsored part of the event. And
56:48
he still got the win. Yeah, yeah. She at least
56:55
came out there strong showing up for best case.
56:58
So she took the fight on short notice, too. Yes,
57:01
she did. And she took on Tash like crazy. Yeah.
57:04
So Tash is a warrior. So now I have big shoes
57:07
to fill because I got to I got to make sure Pest
57:09
Case still wins next week. Yeah. So they bring
57:12
it home. Yeah, man. Bring it home. I want to
57:14
see two trophies in up here. Well, you'll you'll
57:17
know. So. All right. Well, here's on that note.
57:21
This is this is a great episode. Fantastic. Always
57:24
a pleasure. I think we should cheers for another
57:26
great win and a TKO coming out of it. Yeah, let's
57:28
do it. Yeah. Another one in the books. Off the
57:34
bench. London. Where life and sports collide.
57:39
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