Latest / The Menopause Disruptor Podcast / Beyond the Scale: Nutrition, Mindset, and Self-Awareness with Carrie Lupoli
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- 0:00Carrie Lupoli: There's plenty of snake oil out there that's going to promise you to lose weight.
- 0:03Carrie Lupoli: I know a lot of skinny, unhealthy people.
- 0:06Carrie Lupoli: And so, We have to get out of the idea that the scale is a measure of my health.
- 0:12Carrie Lupoli: It is absolutely one of the worst measures of our health.
- 0:15Carrie Lupoli: I had a client who went through cancer and she had never been smaller when she was going through cancer.
- 0:21Carrie Lupoli: But she had also never been as unhealthy.
- 0:24Carrie Lupoli: So, we have to redefine what working means and really figure out what is our why.
- 0:31Carrie Lupoli: What do we want and why do we want it?
- 0:33Carrie Lupoli: I'll say to women, tell me what you want.
- 0:35Carrie Lupoli: And they're like, I just want to lose 20 pounds.
- 0:38Carrie Lupoli: I just feel like I'll feel better in my skin.
- 0:41Carrie Lupoli: When you were 20 pounds lighter, were you dieting?
- 0:44Carrie Lupoli: Yeah! If I had known that, if I had been that size then I should have just been happy with that.
- 0:49Carrie Lupoli: And so here it is you've got to figure out what you really want and why you want it, because it's not a number on a scale.
- 0:57Welcome to All Things Menopausal.
- 0:59My name is Mary, and I'm a menopause doula.
- 1:02I created this podcast, to build community for women going through menopause transition and to foster resilience through the stories that connect, educate, and empower.
- 1:13These stories are real, raw, relatable, And they're very much relevant to the physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual whole person that we are.
- 1:23In our midlife transition, we are not alone.
- 1:26The menopause symptoms are personal, but the experience is universal.
- 1:33Mary Lee: When I sat down with Carrie, I wasn't expecting to have so many aha moments.
- 1:37Mary Lee: But really, as we started to discuss food and its impact on our health, and just the mindset that we've developed as we've been growing up, young children living in an era with all the media messages was about size and calories in, calories out, and the number on the scale.
- 1:56Mary Lee: Wow.
- 1:57Mary Lee: It just started reflecting so much on that era of growing up in this.
- 2:03Mary Lee: This terrible world of messaging for young women.
- 2:06Mary Lee: And now we're all hitting the menopause or in menopause and post menopause years.
- 2:11Mary Lee: and Carrie so very eloquently and forthrightly explains to us the detrimental effect it has had on our health and this constant roller coaster that we've been on.
- 2:23Mary Lee: But she also teaches us how to have a better relationship with food without giving it any value.
- 2:29Mary Lee: she says food fuels our bodies, it fuels our souls.
- 2:33Mary Lee: And so, in this conversation, we get right to the heart of the matter in discussing exactly what is going on with our mindset and how we can develop a more healthier mindset around food.
- 2:44Mary Lee: Moving away from like the labeling of good and bad and the number of calories it has to more deeper exploration of how food makes us feel in the moment.
- 2:59Mary Lee: And more importantly, what it's going to do properly for our bodies.
- 3:03Mary Lee: Comparing a pizza to an apple as a meal, you'll be surprised what Carrie has to say, which is more nutritional.
- 3:12Mary Lee: Like all my guests, I'm always appreciative of the fact that they share their own personal struggles, their own personal journey, our pain points.
- 3:20Mary Lee: the mess.
- 3:20Mary Lee: is the message that we can share with other people.
- 3:23Mary Lee: So Carrie explains to us how her life in behavioral coaching moved right into nutrition coaching because of her own struggles with food and the perception of what food could do for her body or could not do for maintaining her goals.
- 3:39Mary Lee: we're going to get into that.
- 3:40Mary Lee: Vision setting, vision casting, where do we see ourselves in the future, but what's holding us back?
- 3:46Mary Lee: These hidden beliefs around food, the societal norms that painted this picture about food being bad versus being good.
- 3:55Mary Lee: But what I really like about this episode is that Carrie doesn't give you the cookie cutter explanation about eat this, eat that, She gives you formulas and I'm not going to tell you what they are.
- 4:05Mary Lee: You're going to have to stick around and listen But before we get started, here's a little something about Carrie Lupoli that you need to know.
- 4:12Mary Lee: Carrie is a nutritionist, a behavior specialist, an educator, speaker, television host, and disruptor of the diet industry.
- 4:22Mary Lee: most importantly, and I love how she says this on her website, she is the person who will show you how to love your body and truly live with purpose.
- 4:32Mary Lee: As a former athlete, Carrie struggled with disordered eating, which motivated her to seek lasting solutions for herself and her two daughters.
- 4:41Mary Lee: Combining her experience in behavioral science, mindset work, and adult learning, she developed a transformative approach to nutrition.
- 4:49Mary Lee: She founded Disruptive Nutrition and the Diet Disruptors podcast to empower women with solutions based on blood sugar stabilization and behavioral insights.
- 5:01Mary Lee: Carrie's gone on to team up with celebrity nutritionist Mark McDonald to educate consumers on a holistic approach to wellness.
- 5:08Mary Lee: together, they certify and support other health professionals and coaches with their magic formula, PFC3, developed a clean supplement line called Zyve, which is designed to fill in the gaps in nutrition, and co host Food Freedom, the number one most watched nutrition show On Brinks.
- 5:29Mary Lee: tv.
- 5:30Mary Lee: Carrie has been featured on news outlets across the United States, including Today Show, ABC, NBC, Fox, and NewsNation, As a leading contributor to nutrition, woman's health, mindset, behavior change, and living with empowered purpose driven life.
- 5:44Mary Lee: You can find Carrie's website at carrielupoli.
- 5:47Mary Lee: com.
- 5:48Mary Lee: And her private practice disruptivenutrition.
- 5:51Mary Lee: com.
- 5:52Mary Lee: And her podcast, which airs on Apple, Spotify, and several other platforms is.
- 5:58Mary Lee: Diet Disruptors Podcast.
- 6:00Mary Lee: All right, sit back and enjoy this episode and I highly recommend that you grab a pen and paper and take down some notes maybe even fill out this little questionnaire that she is going to give you in an anecdotal story towards the end of this show.
- 6:15Mary Lee: I'm so glad you're here.
- 6:16Mary Lee: welcome carry loopholy joining me to talk about food and disrupting diets.
- 6:23Mary Lee: Carrie, a warm welcome to you.
- 6:25Carrie Lupoli: Thank you.
- 6:26Carrie Lupoli: I love talking all things menopause.
- 6:28Mary Lee: Believe it or
- 6:29Carrie Lupoli: not.
- 6:30Mary Lee: We're going to dive right to it.
- 6:32Mary Lee: My first question before we get into some of your backstory, what is the biggest mistake women are making with our food?
- 6:40Carrie Lupoli: Oh my goodness.
- 6:42Carrie Lupoli: This is the, I think that like we could unpack a whole lot of things, but we give food so much power and we look at food as good and bad, as healthy and unhealthy.
- 6:55Carrie Lupoli: It becomes like these, these, these things that almost define us.
- 7:01Carrie Lupoli: Think about it.
- 7:02Carrie Lupoli: If we look at food as good or bad or healthy or unhealthy, when we eat something that we have defined as bad, when we look at something that we have defined as unhealthy, that reflects onto how we feel about ourselves.
- 7:13Carrie Lupoli: We feel guilty.
- 7:14Carrie Lupoli: We feel like we shouldn't have done that.
- 7:16Carrie Lupoli: And in all reality, food serves our body and food serves our soul.
- 7:20Carrie Lupoli: And we need both.
- 7:22Carrie Lupoli: We just don't understand enough about food.
- 7:24Carrie Lupoli: We don't understand what it does for our body.
- 7:27Carrie Lupoli: And unfortunately, so many women are looking at food as calories in, calories out, as something I need to restrict so I can lose weight, as opposed to understand that we are a refuel as you go machine.
- 7:39Carrie Lupoli: Food is fuel.
- 7:40Carrie Lupoli: Food is life.
- 7:41Carrie Lupoli: Food is meant to be enjoyed.
- 7:43Carrie Lupoli: Food has so many layers of incredible beauty with it.
- 7:47Carrie Lupoli: And we villainize it, but then we use it to self soothe.
- 7:50Carrie Lupoli: And we have this very complicated relationship with it.
- 7:54Carrie Lupoli: And I think it's so clearly defined for us in our society that it's so That it is like one or the other.
- 8:00Carrie Lupoli: It is bad or it's good.
- 8:01Carrie Lupoli: And we can't reconcile that within our own decision making and then within our own feelings about ourselves.
- 8:08Carrie Lupoli: So, and as somebody that had an eating disorder when she was in college, I absolutely understand that.
- 8:14Carrie Lupoli: I didn't, I didn't set out to become a nutritionist or.
- 8:19Carrie Lupoli: A coach of women in this way, I never would have thought that I could have because I had this really problematic relationship with food, but it was when I figured out how to overcome that belief that I realized I had to teach others.
- 8:33Carrie Lupoli: So I think that's the number one thing we have.
- 8:35Carrie Lupoli: We give food so much power and we identify it and define it in ways that actually then aligns with our beliefs about ourselves.
- 8:43Mary Lee: Oh my goodness, that is so powerful.
- 8:45Mary Lee: There's so much you could ask out of that.
- 8:47Mary Lee: And before we get into, cause I'm sure everybody already is thinking, okay, what's the magic formula?
- 8:52Mary Lee: What do we do?
- 8:53Mary Lee: And we will get to that.
- 8:54Mary Lee: My listeners.
- 8:55Mary Lee: But there's more, more to it.
- 8:57Mary Lee: And I think that sharing your backstory helps more of our listeners resonate because I think we are all, and we were just talking just before we hit record.
- 9:05Mary Lee: Didn't we all have a bad relationship with food or a bad relationship with, with self acceptance when we were younger?
- 9:13Carrie Lupoli: Unfortunately,
- 9:13Mary Lee: our generation had grown up in an era where our value, and I liked how you put it, our value was based on our size.
- 9:21Mary Lee: Yeah,
- 9:24Carrie Lupoli: and it's so funny because I, I was recently really thinking about social media and how people we have a lot of, Anger towards social media a lot in terms of what it communicates to our kids and things like that.
- 9:37Carrie Lupoli: But I actually think as someone who grew up like you without the social media, I just keep thinking at least there's a dissenting voice.
- 9:47Carrie Lupoli: You and I met because of social media and we have the ability to have a dissenting voice for our kids today.
- 9:52Carrie Lupoli: When we were growing up, we literally only had the magazines.
- 9:56Carrie Lupoli: It was one way communication that said to us, This is the ideal version of a woman, and if you do not look like this woman, you are not valuable enough.
- 10:08Carrie Lupoli: And there was no dissenting voice telling us otherwise.
- 10:11Carrie Lupoli: My mother believed it.
- 10:12Carrie Lupoli: Her mother believed that.
- 10:14Carrie Lupoli: And so while I think social media has all of its ups and downs, and of course, I do appreciate the idea that I have a voice now that can dissent the voices that we heard growing up.
- 10:26Carrie Lupoli: And I think that's why.
- 10:28Carrie Lupoli: So many of us right now.
- 10:29Carrie Lupoli: We, in my private practice, we talked to thousands and thousands of women and there is not one woman that has said, Oh yeah, I had a really healthy version view of my body and myself growing up.
- 10:44Mary Lee: Yeah, because if they had quite likely, they wouldn't need what you have to offer to
- 10:49Carrie Lupoli: know.
- 10:51Carrie Lupoli: I was actually, I was a behavior specialist.
- 10:54Carrie Lupoli: I was a national educational consultant.
- 10:56Carrie Lupoli: I was traveling the country doing some really like impactful work in typically disenfranchised schools and in our, in our country.
- 11:03Carrie Lupoli: And I didn't want to leave my job.
- 11:06Carrie Lupoli: I didn't want to leave what I was doing.
- 11:08Carrie Lupoli: But nobody was doing what I knew needed to be done for women, for our population.
- 11:15Carrie Lupoli: And because I was a behavior specialist, I had this sort of unique background as a nutritionist and behavior specialist.
- 11:21Carrie Lupoli: I became a nutritionist later in life later in my career.
- 11:25Carrie Lupoli: To be able to impact the way women, not just Not what they did, but how they thought.
- 11:31Carrie Lupoli: Because our thoughts and our beliefs dictate our actions.
- 11:34Carrie Lupoli: you can't do something that you don't think about first, right?
- 11:38Carrie Lupoli: And so because I was an expert in mindset as a behavior specialist and what I did is my work in education, I knew I had a skillset to be able to influence women in a way that I thought that they needed.
- 11:51Carrie Lupoli: So had to be done.
- 11:54Carrie Lupoli: I remember the Special-K commercial back in the day where You had pinched an inch every, it was just unbelievable how that happened.
- 12:01Carrie Lupoli: And then I was recently reminded of Peter Pan and Tinkerbell and she saw herself in that movie, in a mirror and she looked at her butt and it was like too big.
- 12:11Carrie Lupoli: And I'm like, we're talking about Tinkerbell.
- 12:14Carrie Lupoli: So no wonder we all had this and I belief that we weren't good enough because it was just around us everywhere.
- 12:23Mary Lee: Oh my goodness, you know what those there were subtle subliminal messages that were in our media stream as kids growing up all the time and we never.
- 12:34Mary Lee: And I think
- 12:36Carrie Lupoli: This is, this is why, this is what, something that I think is so important because when my girls were 5 and 6 years old, I was going through a tough time where I gained 80 pounds when I was pregnant, and then lost it, and then gained it, and lost it, and if you see pictures of me when my kids were younger, If I felt like I was valuable enough or skinny enough, you would see me front and center.
- 12:58Carrie Lupoli: If I wasn't, I was hiding behind my kids and pictures.
- 13:00Carrie Lupoli: And so you go back and forth and you can see that evolution of that.
- 13:04Carrie Lupoli: But when they were five and six one day and we had Friday family pizza night, I never ate the pizza because I got salad with dressing on the side.
- 13:11Carrie Lupoli: Right.
- 13:12Carrie Lupoli: But I was eating with everybody.
- 13:14Carrie Lupoli: And one of my five year old said to my six year old, two girls, why does mom never eat the pizza?
- 13:18Carrie Lupoli: And the other one said, because it has too many calories.
- 13:21Carrie Lupoli: And I had no idea that I was literally teaching my children all of the same beliefs that I had about my body and food and all of this disordered thinking.
- 13:35Carrie Lupoli: And until they came out with the word calories.
- 13:37Carrie Lupoli: I don't feel like I ever remember saying calories to them.
- 13:41Carrie Lupoli: But I, I taught them subliminally because it was my belief.
- 13:46Carrie Lupoli: My thoughts.
- 13:48Carrie Lupoli: I cannot teach any different than what I believe.
- 13:51Carrie Lupoli: even if I think I can.
- 13:53Carrie Lupoli: Because the little bits of when I was looking at myself in the mirror and like pinching my skin to pretend what I would look like when it was, when I was smaller.
- 14:01Carrie Lupoli: Or if I'd have a piece of cake and I'd say, Oh, I really shouldn't.
- 14:05Carrie Lupoli: Oh my gosh, I shouldn't.
- 14:06Carrie Lupoli: And I have it.
- 14:07Carrie Lupoli: Or if I, said, Oh my gosh, I'm, I'm on my cheat meal right now.
- 14:14Carrie Lupoli: Or, Oh gosh, I like, Ooh, I don't want to have it.
- 14:18Carrie Lupoli: All right.
- 14:18Carrie Lupoli: I'm just going to have it.
- 14:19Carrie Lupoli: All of those little messages were subliminal too.
- 14:23Carrie Lupoli: Right.
- 14:23Carrie Lupoli: And teaching our kids these things, because I believed that food was good or bad and food defined my worth.
- 14:32Mary Lee: Oh, so powerful.
- 14:34Mary Lee: And like you said right away, but, but food's designed to fuel our bodies and our soul.
- 14:39Mary Lee: And it shouldn't be given this nomenclature of whether it's acceptable or good or bad.
- 14:45Mary Lee: This is like a source of life.
- 14:48Carrie Lupoli: It is life and no other animal in our world has metabolic disease.
- 14:56Carrie Lupoli: I don't know, right?
- 14:58Carrie Lupoli: We do.
- 14:59Carrie Lupoli: And we actually have right now, and this is where I get really passionate for women because we have, if you, if you talk to right now with, with our studies, we know that 85 percent of women have been dieting for at least a third of their life.
- 15:17Carrie Lupoli: And all of this up and down, how many times we're on a diet plan where we have to buy food, buy prepackaged food, buy products to be able to go along with it.
- 15:26Carrie Lupoli: We have to count or track all of our food in an app calories in versus calories out.
- 15:31Carrie Lupoli: We have literally been malnourishing ourselves.
- 15:35Carrie Lupoli: It's, it's, it's just this, we use, we have these insatiable cravings, especially around menopause.
- 15:42Carrie Lupoli: But all of that, this weight gain, all of this is, our bodies are talking to us.
- 15:48Carrie Lupoli: Hot flashes, menopausal issues, any hormonal balance, is our body saying, A.
- 15:55Carrie Lupoli: Our bodies, our gut, our microbiome, our cellular function, is, our metabolic health, is, is not in a place it needs to be.
- 16:07Carrie Lupoli: 93 percent of people have, are, have metabolic dysfunction.
- 16:11Carrie Lupoli: 93%.
- 16:12Carrie Lupoli: And a lot of that has to do with our processed food industry.
- 16:15Carrie Lupoli: A lot of it.
- 16:16Carrie Lupoli: But also our blood sugar has been on a rollercoaster, especially if you've been dieting for years.
- 16:22Carrie Lupoli: And so to be able to have this balance of food serving our soul and food serving our body is so powerful because We have to learn how to serve our body.
- 16:33Carrie Lupoli: We have to, but we can't keep depriving our body.
- 16:36Carrie Lupoli: We don't realize that, but I always say what thrives in a deficit, like name one thing.
- 16:43Carrie Lupoli: Yeah.
- 16:44Carrie Lupoli: Nothing.
- 16:45Carrie Lupoli: And if you've been fueling your body at a deficit for the majority of your life, No wonder your hormones are out of whack.
- 16:54Carrie Lupoli: No wonder your cravings are insatiable.
- 16:56Carrie Lupoli: You've been on this crazy blood sugar roller coaster.
- 16:59Carrie Lupoli: And every, the root of every single metabolic function in our body is, is, is around blood sugar stabilization.
- 17:09Carrie Lupoli: And so we need to be absorbing nutrients.
- 17:13Carrie Lupoli: And that can't happen with pre packaged, tons of processed foods.
- 17:19Carrie Lupoli: But even more than that, we can't balance our blood sugar if we're on this dieting rollercoaster.
- 17:25Carrie Lupoli: And so we just don't know enough about food.
- 17:27Carrie Lupoli: We've been taught the food pyramid, we've been taught calories in, calories out, we've been taught that carbs are bad.
- 17:33Carrie Lupoli: I eat six times a day, I eat carbs in every single meal.
- 17:37Carrie Lupoli: I never experienced menopausal symptoms.
- 17:40Carrie Lupoli: So, like, I could prove it wrong, and I could prove it wrong with thousands of women that I've worked with, and we just have to have better education.
- 17:49Carrie Lupoli: Unfortunately, our doctors, my number one client are doctors.
- 17:52Carrie Lupoli: They have literally no idea about what we really need to be doing to use food as, as, as medicine, as fuel, and something not to deprive ourselves of.
- 18:02Carrie Lupoli: Doctors today are still telling women in menopause to fast, and it makes me want to literally pull out all of my hair, because nothing is going to make it worse for us then.
- 18:10Mary Lee: Yeah.
- 18:11Carrie Lupoli: Fasting.
- 18:12Mary Lee: Fast and take an antidepressant, yes.
- 18:15Carrie Lupoli: Yes.
- 18:15Mary Lee: And you're too young for menopause.
- 18:18Mary Lee: Yes.
- 18:18Mary Lee: Wow.
- 18:19Mary Lee: Exactly.
- 18:20Mary Lee: Carrie, there is so many breadcrumbs that you've left me that I want to follow.
- 18:24Mary Lee: Okay.
- 18:25Mary Lee: You tell me
- 18:26Carrie Lupoli: which way you want to go first.
- 18:27Mary Lee: Which way?
- 18:28Mary Lee: Which way?
- 18:29Mary Lee: I, one of the things that I love that you mentioned carbs, and I'm going to echo that sentiment, Carrie, because I was, I just came back from Touring around a vacation in Italy, in Italy.
- 18:40Mary Lee: Yes,
- 18:41Carrie Lupoli: and you probably ate bread and you were okay.
- 18:44Mary Lee: I ate, so in the morning we have our coffee and we would have some, those puff pastries, our croissant, and some, some of the the meats, the dried meats, which are cured in such a healthy way over there.
- 18:58Carrie Lupoli: And by the way, that's a protein, fat, and carb.
- 19:01Carrie Lupoli: We call it PFC.
- 19:02Carrie Lupoli: We want to be eating PFC for all of our meals.
- 19:07Carrie Lupoli: So that's perfect.
- 19:08Mary Lee: It was, but I'll tell you, and I was consuming more carbs.
- 19:12Mary Lee: I was getting a little bit conscientious about it,
- 19:14Carrie Lupoli: but I
- 19:14Mary Lee: kid you not, I was.
- 19:16Mary Lee: I was literally shaving down my size, like in my waistline, I could feel like, I, I feel really slender and toned because we were moving.
- 19:27Mary Lee: We were walking, we were walking everywhere.
- 19:30Mary Lee: We were doing hikes.
- 19:31Mary Lee: We were like, when we hit the ground running in Rome, literally to see everything.
- 19:34Mary Lee: All right.
- 19:35Mary Lee: The forum, the Colosseum, the stairs, the Trevi Fountain, let's go.
- 19:39Mary Lee: And we probably walked four or five hours, 10K.
- 19:43Mary Lee: And you
- 19:43Carrie Lupoli: were fueling your body.
- 19:45Mary Lee: And we were we stopped for a beer, but I felt so good because I was one, I was moving.
- 19:53Mary Lee: And two I wasn't, I wasn't necessarily, I was enjoying food and I was enjoying the experience that came with it, which also I felt started to change my mindset and my behavior, my thoughts around food, but in particular, When you mentioned the carbs, and this is such a big hang up, what are those myths about carbs that we keep encountering?
- 20:16Mary Lee: And how do you counter these misconceptions to support women, to guide women?
- 20:23Carrie Lupoli: Yeah, I think a lot of women don't realize why they can't have carbs.
- 20:27Carrie Lupoli: In a lot of ways, just like I'm not allowed to have carbs.
- 20:28Carrie Lupoli: remember in the nineties, we didn't, weren't allowed to have fat.
- 20:31Carrie Lupoli: Everything was low fat.
- 20:32Carrie Lupoli: And then suddenly we started gaining a lot of weight, right?
- 20:34Carrie Lupoli: Because we need fat as well.
- 20:36Carrie Lupoli: We need fat to actually shed fat.
- 20:38Carrie Lupoli: There's only three macronutrients, protein, fats, and carbs.
- 20:41Carrie Lupoli: That's it.
- 20:42Carrie Lupoli: There's only three.
- 20:43Carrie Lupoli: They're called macros.
- 20:44Carrie Lupoli: And I don't, we don't track macros for the day.
- 20:46Carrie Lupoli: Our body doesn't operate that way.
- 20:48Carrie Lupoli: Our body operates with every meal that we have, whether it's fuel or not.
- 20:52Carrie Lupoli: It's like your car.
- 20:54Carrie Lupoli: You can't.
- 20:55Carrie Lupoli: overfuel your car.
- 20:56Carrie Lupoli: You can't add more gas than it can have.
- 20:59Carrie Lupoli: And if you underfuel it and you're running on fumes, that's not going to work.
- 21:02Carrie Lupoli: It's, it's about the right amount.
- 21:04Carrie Lupoli: And I think nutritionists, dieticians, doctors, it drives me crazy when we talk about caloric deficit because then we as women keep thinking deficit, deficit, deficit, I gotta eat less, I gotta eat less.
- 21:15Carrie Lupoli: What they really mean, but nobody says, is having the right amount of food.
- 21:21Carrie Lupoli: Right?
- 21:21Carrie Lupoli: And we keep thinking it's calories because it's measurable.
- 21:25Carrie Lupoli: We need to get rid of that because 350 calories of Oreo cookies is not the same as 350 calories of turkey almonds and an apple.
- 21:32Carrie Lupoli: It's just not.
- 21:34Carrie Lupoli: Oreo cookies are processed food.
- 21:35Carrie Lupoli: There's no nutrients in there and it's a carb and a fat.
- 21:38Carrie Lupoli: It's going to spike our blood sugar and we're not going to get any nutrient absorption.
- 21:41Carrie Lupoli: But if we had turkey, almonds, and an apple, we have protein, fat, and carbs.
- 21:45Carrie Lupoli: So I'll explain to you what all that means, but because those are cleaner and whole foods, it's going to absorb in our body and it's going to balance our blood sugar.
- 21:56Carrie Lupoli: So we need carbs, even though people don't really recognize it because carbs give us energy.
- 22:01Carrie Lupoli: But carbs are also fruit and vegetables.
- 22:04Carrie Lupoli: It's not just bread.
- 22:05Carrie Lupoli: It's not just rice.
- 22:08Carrie Lupoli: It's all food is falls into a category of a protein, a fat, or a carb, or a combination of those carbs give us energy.
- 22:15Carrie Lupoli: They fuel our brain.
- 22:17Carrie Lupoli: They are a huge source of what's called ATP, which is, like, how we function.
- 22:23Carrie Lupoli: Our body needs ATP in order to have any energy.
- 22:27Carrie Lupoli: If you've done keto for any amount of time, a lot of people talk about and this is when if people lose weight on keto, they'll often say, no, I have so much energy.
- 22:37Carrie Lupoli: I'm like, yeah, because your brain is excited that you've lost weight.
- 22:39Carrie Lupoli: But longer term than that, you actually are, there's so many different studies around the impact of, of keto negatively.
- 22:49Carrie Lupoli: Keto will balance your blood sugar.
- 22:50Carrie Lupoli: It will because you're not bringing in carbs.
- 22:52Carrie Lupoli: Carbs spike our blood sugar.
- 22:54Carrie Lupoli: And every time we spike our blood sugar, we actually, our body does a few different things.
- 22:58Carrie Lupoli: One, it glycates.
- 23:00Carrie Lupoli: And when we go through glycation, it means we have more glucose in our bloodstream than we can store.
- 23:05Carrie Lupoli: We store glucose in our muscles and our liver.
- 23:08Carrie Lupoli: That's super important.
- 23:10Carrie Lupoli: But then when we overdo it, or when we eat carbs all on its own, we can spike our blood sugar and then a few things happen.
- 23:18Carrie Lupoli: One, we age faster.
- 23:19Carrie Lupoli: B, our hormones get out of whack because it has to over release insulin.
- 23:23Carrie Lupoli: Insulin is a hormone.
- 23:24Carrie Lupoli: Once we have to, once one hormone is out of whack, they all are.
- 23:28Carrie Lupoli: We release something called free radicals in our body, which are like little lightning bolts, and they zap all of our cells, even our good cells, and it causes oxidative stress in our body.
- 23:37Carrie Lupoli: So, why we've been scared of carbs, a lot of people don't realize, we spike our blood sugar and it wreaks havoc on our body.
- 23:44Carrie Lupoli: But we also need carbs, because it gives us energy, and it fuels our body.
- 23:49Carrie Lupoli: So how do we reconcile that?
- 23:51Carrie Lupoli: When we have protein with carbs, protein acts as that mitigator of that, of that spike, much like insulin does.
- 23:58Carrie Lupoli: But because our body, because we've been on this blood sugar roller coaster for most of our lives, our body is constantly overreleasing insulin.
- 24:06Carrie Lupoli: And if your body has been constantly overreleasing insulin for 10 or 20 years, like I can almost guarantee it has, then everything is out of whack on your body.
- 24:16Carrie Lupoli: So by the time you are in your fifties and you're in menopause, Your body is completely out of whack, your A1C is out of whack, but it's been because of the decades of dieting and rollercoaster life that we've been on before that.
- 24:30Carrie Lupoli: But, when we have that protein, it mitigates that blood sugar spike along with the fat.
- 24:35Carrie Lupoli: The fat helps helps us absorb the protein in the carbs.
- 24:38Carrie Lupoli: It fuels our brain, it cushions our organs.
- 24:40Carrie Lupoli: The three were meant to be eaten together.
- 24:42Carrie Lupoli: So carbs are not something to be afraid of, but we want to make sure we're doing what we call PFC3.
- 24:47Carrie Lupoli: We're eating carbs.
- 24:48Carrie Lupoli: A protein fat and carb where we're always feeling like we're ready to eat and then satisfied ready to eat satisfied and that cycle should last in our body about three hours.
- 24:59Carrie Lupoli: So we should be feeling hungry again about every three hours and there's this big misconception.
- 25:05Carrie Lupoli: or belief that every time we eat, we're going to spike our blood sugar.
- 25:08Carrie Lupoli: It's not true.
- 25:09Carrie Lupoli: If we eat PFC about every three hours, we've proven it with continuous glucose monitoring that you can keep your blood sugar in range while eating carbs and being able to really feel fueled, never feeling like you have to count calories or anything like that.
- 25:24Carrie Lupoli: And that causes homeostasis in our body.
- 25:27Carrie Lupoli: It's powerful, but eating like a carb on its own, and this is where I first learned about it, a nutrition coach said to me, what do you think is more balanced eating an apple?
- 25:38Carrie Lupoli: Or, actually what he said was what do you think is better for your body, eating an apple or pizza with chicken?
- 25:43Carrie Lupoli: I never ate the pizza.
- 25:44Carrie Lupoli: So, I was like, an apple, and he's like, an apple might be healthier.
- 25:49Carrie Lupoli: But pizza with chicken has your protein, your fat, and your carbs.
- 25:53Carrie Lupoli: An apple on its own is going to spike your blood sugar.
- 25:55Carrie Lupoli: But when you can combine all of those and, and, and I was like, what?
- 26:01Carrie Lupoli: I can have pizza.
- 26:02Carrie Lupoli: And so my whole message is I'm never going to tell you what you can or can't have.
- 26:05Carrie Lupoli: I'm going to educate you so you understand your body and how it responds and then you make decisions for yourself.
- 26:10Carrie Lupoli: I can't have gluten when I'm in the United States.
- 26:13Carrie Lupoli: I can't.
- 26:14Carrie Lupoli: And it's only happened recently for me, but my bones and my joints really struggle when I eat gluten about two days after I have it.
- 26:23Carrie Lupoli: And so I don't want that feeling.
- 26:26Carrie Lupoli: So it's not like I choose not to have gluten because I want to lose weight.
- 26:29Carrie Lupoli: I choose not to have gluten because I love myself too much to put it through pain.
- 26:34Mary Lee: There's a lot of gluten intolerance on the rise more and more, not just we were hearing about it a lot in children, but women who are entering The perimenopause years, and beyond are now becoming suddenly gluten intolerant.
- 26:49Mary Lee: Does it have to do with how grains are processed today, how we're finding it showing up in breads and cakes and cookies?
- 26:56Carrie Lupoli: Yeah our, I always joke that our Wonder Bread today is not like our Wonder Bread was.
- 27:01Carrie Lupoli: Back when we were kids.
- 27:03Carrie Lupoli: So the issue with gluten and a lot of people don't really understand it truly, but it might not be with the gluten itself.
- 27:11Carrie Lupoli: But it's how we're processing all of this in North America today, even in Canada, where I know you are, there's higher standards than we have in the United States.
- 27:20Carrie Lupoli: And so a sandwich will wreak havoc on my gut.
- 27:25Carrie Lupoli: And so our gut is our second brain and our gut has everything to do with Our insulin resistance, our blood sugar stabilization, and how well we're absorbing nutrients.
- 27:34Carrie Lupoli: And so, gluten is impacting our microbiome in such a significant way that that then becomes a control center of everything else in our body.
- 27:44Carrie Lupoli: So, my mother in law, who is right now in her 70s, is just finally realizing, I, I just can't have gluten.
- 27:51Carrie Lupoli: And, and, but it becomes her decision.
- 27:54Carrie Lupoli: And I, and I think that that's what's so important.
- 27:56Carrie Lupoli: So many of us are looking for, Carrie, just tell me what to eat.
- 27:58Carrie Lupoli: Just tell me what to eat.
- 28:00Carrie Lupoli: Like, because you just went on vacation for three weeks.
- 28:03Carrie Lupoli: If I gave you a meal plan You'd be like throwing it out the window.
- 28:07Carrie Lupoli: But if you know that all food is, is a protein, fat and carb, I travel all the time, especially now that I'm an empty nester.
- 28:15Carrie Lupoli: And I know you were just talking about empty nesting.
- 28:17Carrie Lupoli: I, I can eat anywhere at any time in any situation.
- 28:21Carrie Lupoli: I don't use food to soothe me in terms of an emotional release anymore.
- 28:26Carrie Lupoli: I know that food serves my body and food serves my soul.
- 28:29Carrie Lupoli: And that I can do this anywhere at any point in my life.
- 28:33Carrie Lupoli: That's a lifestyle.
- 28:35Carrie Lupoli: That's when you own it.
- 28:37Carrie Lupoli: And so for women that are just looking for a meal plan, you'll never find what you're looking for if somebody just tells you what to eat.
- 28:45Carrie Lupoli: It's why I now train doctors, nutritionists, dieticians on how to have a different approach with their clients because this whole old school approach of here, here's your meal plan, track what you're doing and give me a report, It's so misguided.
- 29:01Carrie Lupoli: Food is an important part.
- 29:02Carrie Lupoli: It's a foundation, but it's only part of the whole big puzzle as well.
- 29:06Mary Lee: Carrie, I appreciate everything that you said there.
- 29:09Mary Lee: And I can relate in terms of the work in menopause too, when women come to me and they said, I want you to tell me what to do to manage my symptoms.
- 29:17Mary Lee: But all our symptoms show up individualized.
- 29:19Mary Lee: And I said, the best thing, the most important thing, and the only thing I should be doing is educating you to do it yourself, to give you the more tools in the toolbox so that you have an understanding and an appreciation of what is happening, why you're feeling the symptoms, and then you can start addressing the root cause.
- 29:39Mary Lee: I can't hand out because everybody is different.
- 29:43Mary Lee: But what's that?
- 29:44Carrie Lupoli: And the other thing that I often say is people, women will say to me all the time.
- 29:49Carrie Lupoli: You know what, what used to work isn't working anymore.
- 29:52Carrie Lupoli: And I, my number one question is, what is your definition of working?
- 29:57Carrie Lupoli: We have been ingrained to think that the only definition of working is losing weight.
- 30:02Carrie Lupoli: Yeah.
- 30:03Carrie Lupoli: But there are plenty there's plenty of snake oil out there that's going to promise you to lose weight.
- 30:09Carrie Lupoli: I know a lot of skinny, unhealthy people.
- 30:12Carrie Lupoli: And so we have to get out of the idea that the scale is a measure of my health.
- 30:17Carrie Lupoli: It is absolutely one of the worst measures of our health.
- 30:21Carrie Lupoli: I had a client who went through cancer and she had never been smaller.
- 30:25Carrie Lupoli: when she was going through cancer, but she had also never been as unhealthy.
- 30:29Carrie Lupoli: So we have to redefine what working means and really figure out what is our why, what do we want and why do we want it?
- 30:39Carrie Lupoli: Because if we can't I I, I'll say to women, tell me what you want.
- 30:43Carrie Lupoli: And they're like, I just want to lose 20 pounds.
- 30:46Carrie Lupoli: I just feel like I'll feel better in my skin.
- 30:49Carrie Lupoli: And I'm like, when you were 20 pounds lighter, were you dieting?
- 30:52Carrie Lupoli: And they're like, yeah.
- 30:54Carrie Lupoli: If I had known that, like, if I had been that size then, then I should have just been happy with that.
- 30:59Carrie Lupoli: And I'm like, so here it is.
- 31:01Carrie Lupoli: You've got to figure out what you really want and why you want it, because it's not a number on a scale.
- 31:06Mary Lee: Beautiful.
- 31:08Carrie Lupoli: Yeah.
- 31:08Carrie Lupoli: It's not.
- 31:09Carrie Lupoli: And let's be honest, when you're stressed out on a Monday night and you have chocolate cake in the house, you're not going to lose 20 pounds by tomorrow, so you might as well just eat the cake.
- 31:16Carrie Lupoli: But when I know every time I spike my blood sugar, I'm actually putting my body at risk for metabolic disease.
- 31:21Carrie Lupoli: I'm literally.
- 31:24Carrie Lupoli: aging faster, and it wasn't an intentional meal.
- 31:28Carrie Lupoli: It wasn't something that I knew I was going to have this chocolate cake, this meal, because my daughter made it for me and it was an intentional decision.
- 31:38Carrie Lupoli: It was an impulsive decision.
- 31:40Carrie Lupoli: I eat chocolate cake, but I'm not impulsive about it.
- 31:44Carrie Lupoli: Right.
- 31:44Carrie Lupoli: And the two are very, very different.
- 31:46Carrie Lupoli: I want women to be more self aware, to be more intentional, to love them, that love themselves so much that they want to show up for themselves as being mad at their body.
- 31:59Carrie Lupoli: So putting it through all sorts of restriction and deprivation and anger that then just.
- 32:06Carrie Lupoli: Perseverates this cycle of self sabotage, binge eating, cravings, because we're not actually doing it for the right reasons or really truly understanding what we really want.
- 32:18Mary Lee: And doing that why work with your clients really gets into challenging beliefs, looking at the childhood beliefs and their whole self worth that's been wrapped around, I know, things like food and size, of course, but that is some.
- 32:35Mary Lee: That is more of the deeper work.
- 32:38Mary Lee: That needs to be done for people to finally have a better relationship and discover who they are for perhaps the first time in their lives.
- 32:46Carrie Lupoli: Yeah.
- 32:46Carrie Lupoli: Because we're all going through the second season of our lives.
- 32:48Carrie Lupoli: Are we really just going to keep chasing the scale?
- 32:50Carrie Lupoli: Like we, I keep saying we were not put on this earth to find the right diet, but we keep acting like we were like, once I get to this magical number, I'm going to live this perfect little life.
- 32:59Carrie Lupoli: If you haven't actually done any of the work about who you are, who you serve, what your purpose is, then it doesn't matter what size you are.
- 33:06Carrie Lupoli: Yeah.
- 33:06Carrie Lupoli: Yeah.
- 33:07Carrie Lupoli: And, and then the other question I often ask women, I'm like, and this gets misinterpreted, so I'll tell you that in a second, but I'll say to them, all right, let's pretend you have two choices.
- 33:15Carrie Lupoli: One, you can lose all the weight you want to lose, but you still have hot flashes, you still have cravings, you, have tons of fatigue, you don't sleep well, and brain fog, right?
- 33:28Carrie Lupoli: But you've lost all the weight.
- 33:30Carrie Lupoli: Or, you have more energy than you've ever felt before, you have no cravings, you have no more hormonal imbalances, you're sleeping like, I don't even say like a baby, but sleeping like a 50 year old woman should sleep, right?
- 33:43Carrie Lupoli: You have more energy than you've ever had and you're super clear, but you haven't lost a pound.
- 33:48Carrie Lupoli: Which one would you want?
- 33:49Mary Lee: Absolutely.
- 33:50Mary Lee: A
- 33:50Carrie Lupoli: lot of people misinterpret it by saying if I get all those things, I can't lose weight.
- 33:53Carrie Lupoli: I'm like, no, weight gain is a symptom of our health and it's a symptom of our hormones.
- 33:57Carrie Lupoli: It's a by losing weight is a byproduct of a healthy body.
- 34:00Carrie Lupoli: Your body will not release fat, especially in your fifties, especially in menopause.
- 34:04Carrie Lupoli: If you are not healthy, bottom line, but if you had to be making one choice or the other, which one would it be?
- 34:13Carrie Lupoli: And I think if women really took a hard look at that, they, a lot of them would have a hard time answering that question.
- 34:20Carrie Lupoli: And that's, that's scary to me because if we're just going after weight loss at any means possible, our, our inner thoughts, our belief about ourself, our value is not aligned with what we really need to be able to thrive.
- 34:36Carrie Lupoli: If we asked our daughters that question and they said weight loss over health, we'd be like, no.
- 34:42Carrie Lupoli: So why do we still think it's okay for us to have that belief?
- 34:48Carrie Lupoli: At the end of the day, you're, I always say like.
- 34:51Carrie Lupoli: Your body will respond when it trusts you and your body has been trying to love you for so many decades.
- 35:01Carrie Lupoli: It wants you to be consistent.
- 35:03Carrie Lupoli: It wants positive interactions with you.
- 35:05Carrie Lupoli: And every time you're on this roller coaster of trying new things, deprivation, restriction, stress, it just keeps trying to keep up, but eventually it's Going to be what kills you because 10 deaths right now are in their 60s to 70s due to metabolic disease We have one of the lowest Lifespan rates in the world in the u.
- 35:28Carrie Lupoli: s Anyway in the world because we keep going after the wrong things for the wrong reasons
- 35:35Mary Lee: Oh my goodness, Carrie, that is so impactful right there.
- 35:39Mary Lee: And now with your background in behavior specialists, you can really uncover some of the thought processes by getting into the behavior patterns and understanding how those behaviors were formed over, as you said, up to two thirds of their lives.
- 35:55Mary Lee: So just think about your 50 year old woman comes to see you 34 years, roughly of her life.
- 36:02Mary Lee: She's been manipulating her body, been loving it, been using calories and size to validate it.
- 36:08Carrie Lupoli: And for the reasons of ego versus heart.
- 36:12Mary Lee: Ugh.
- 36:14Mary Lee: So how do you do that heart centered work, that behavioral work, to get them to now start to have, Or invite to have a better relationship with, with food and calories.
- 36:25Carrie Lupoli: This is why when we work with clients, I, me or my team has to have in depth conversations with them.
- 36:32Carrie Lupoli: Not every woman is ready.
- 36:34Carrie Lupoli: And when we say that, what are the things that I look for, for somebody that's actually really ready to embrace what, what we need to embrace to be able to make these changes.
- 36:44Carrie Lupoli: I want women ready to learn, but they also have to be ready to unlearn.
- 36:49Carrie Lupoli: Right and be ready to unlearn with an open growth mindset about what they need.
- 36:54Carrie Lupoli: So I, I teach a lot of, the way our brain works.
- 37:00Carrie Lupoli: And I think sometimes when we know we can do this has to be a journey of self awareness.
- 37:05Carrie Lupoli: I always say self consciousness is a disease and self awareness is health.
- 37:09Carrie Lupoli: And when we are more aware of our personality and our triggers and the way our brain works, it changes everything.
- 37:15Carrie Lupoli: So I could tell you a couple of little, little nuggets that I teach women, one on self sabotage, for example, we do this thing.
- 37:22Carrie Lupoli: It's like, Oh my gosh, I just I self sabotage.
- 37:25Carrie Lupoli: Why do I do that?
- 37:26Carrie Lupoli: Our brain.
- 37:28Carrie Lupoli: just craves comfortable and familiar.
- 37:31Carrie Lupoli: I always joke that if I have to go running outside in like cold weather, where it's a little, that misty rain, it's so miserable.
- 37:38Carrie Lupoli: It like hurts.
- 37:39Carrie Lupoli: Right?
- 37:39Carrie Lupoli: Like, and I, and I run through it and I always joke to my husband, I hate being uncomfortable.
- 37:44Carrie Lupoli: We, we don't like that feeling.
- 37:46Carrie Lupoli: And so when we decide to make a change, and I see this with women all the time we decided to make a change because we're finally at this place of like, Oh, I'm I hate myself.
- 37:56Carrie Lupoli: Like I'm mad at my body I, and I feel frustrated.
- 37:58Carrie Lupoli: So we decided to make a change.
- 37:59Carrie Lupoli: And maybe some of the things that we're doing start to feel good.
- 38:02Carrie Lupoli: Maybe we're showing up at the gym.
- 38:03Carrie Lupoli: Maybe we're moving our body more.
- 38:04Carrie Lupoli: Maybe we're understanding more about food, whatever it is.
- 38:09Carrie Lupoli: And then no matter what, even if we feel good about it, the brain recognizes it as different.
- 38:14Carrie Lupoli: The brain doesn't like different.
- 38:16Carrie Lupoli: And because we don't have a lot of self awareness about this, it just becomes truth.
- 38:20Carrie Lupoli: And suddenly the subconscious is saying, Ooh, This is different.
- 38:24Carrie Lupoli: We don't like different.
- 38:25Carrie Lupoli: We don't like unfamiliar.
- 38:26Carrie Lupoli: That makes us uncomfortable.
- 38:28Carrie Lupoli: And then suddenly you start to question the changes that you made.
- 38:31Carrie Lupoli: You start to justify why you can't show up for yourself.
- 38:35Carrie Lupoli: And you find yourself, 6 months, 12 months, 2 years down the road going, I, I'm back right where I started.
- 38:42Carrie Lupoli: That's because the brain automatically wants to default to what's familiar.
- 38:45Carrie Lupoli: So if you've been dieting for 20, 30, 40 years, that's comfortable.
- 38:50Carrie Lupoli: Even though it's miserable, that's what your brain is familiar with.
- 38:53Carrie Lupoli: So if you start to learn a new way of functioning and being, recognize that your brain isn't going to want to do that for the long term until you can truly make it who you are, not just what you do.
- 39:07Carrie Lupoli: That self sabotage comes in when the brain is like, Oh wait, this is different.
- 39:11Carrie Lupoli: We don't like this.
- 39:12Carrie Lupoli: And eventually it wants to go back to what it knows.
- 39:15Mary Lee: Wow.
- 39:15Mary Lee: That's so true.
- 39:16Mary Lee: I speak that often when I'm talking to women I work with as well.
- 39:21Mary Lee: The brain's job is to protect the body.
- 39:23Mary Lee: Yes.
- 39:25Carrie Lupoli: Yes.
- 39:26Carrie Lupoli: And it's not like the brain, the brain filters what we tell it to.
- 39:30Carrie Lupoli: So, very often, it's not like our, our brain is like, has that little voice, that little girl, that's been with us for years and years and years and years, telling us that we're not good enough.
- 39:38Carrie Lupoli: Telling us that we have to look like everyone else.
- 39:40Carrie Lupoli: Telling us that who we are is not enough.
- 39:43Carrie Lupoli: And, And if we aren't more aware of our value and our purpose on this earth being so much more than what we look like, we're never going to be able to reprogram that little voice in our, in our head.
- 39:56Mary Lee: Oh, wow.
- 39:57Mary Lee: That's so true.
- 39:58Mary Lee: And this is, this is the menopause wisdom that I speak of.
- 40:02Mary Lee: And as you said, birthing the second season, a second spring as well, a term I've heard, and I just love it.
- 40:10Mary Lee: But it's also our opportunity to become wise women.
- 40:13Mary Lee: And we can only get that wisdom through lived experience.
- 40:17Mary Lee: So with all that lived experience, we're saying, I'm not getting the results when I did this.
- 40:22Mary Lee: let's get wise, but it's, it's more than just wisdom from things like understanding.
- 40:27Mary Lee: And I love that the formula of proteins and a carb and a fat, but it, that wisdom more is about, and you said it beautifully is getting to know ourselves, having a relationship with who we truly are outside.
- 40:44Carrie Lupoli: this is a life container.
- 40:45Carrie Lupoli: Our body is a life container.
- 40:47Carrie Lupoli: It contains a life.
- 40:50Carrie Lupoli: And if we just keep diminishing what's inside of this container, it's never going to do the things that we were meant to do.
- 41:00Carrie Lupoli: We can always make more money, we cannot make more time.
- 41:02Carrie Lupoli: And I think for us, as empty nesters, as women in their 50s, like, we have to recognize that time is running so much faster now.
- 41:13Carrie Lupoli: I just joke in a way, but it's not really a joke.
- 41:15Carrie Lupoli: one day when I die, I feel like I can go up to heaven and God's going to say, Oh, great job.
- 41:20Carrie Lupoli: You did some good stuff, but gosh, I had so much more planned for you.
- 41:23Carrie Lupoli: Oh, no.
- 41:24Carrie Lupoli: And if you think about how much time we spend entering calories on an app, focusing, obsessing, stressing about food, stressing about our bodies, constantly searching for the next diet for the next thing, instead of.
- 41:38Carrie Lupoli: Using that time to be able to figure out who am I learning how to fuel my body correctly so that I could be around for longer, how much more we could do in this earth with this limited amount of time that we have.
- 41:51Mary Lee: Oh my goodness.
- 41:52Mary Lee: And I think that message is going to resonate with a lot of people.
- 41:56Mary Lee: When some of the work I like to do is when we try to figure out what their goal is, their long term goal.
- 42:03Mary Lee: And I say, begin with the end in mind.
- 42:06Mary Lee: And what do you vision yourself in your menopausal years and beyond and we'll face it menopause is for the rest of our life.
- 42:13Mary Lee: It's just clinically called post menopause, but we're still in that for the rest of our lives.
- 42:18Mary Lee: But what, so what do you envision those years to look like?
- 42:23Mary Lee: Do you want to be able to run and play in the backyard with your grandchildren?
- 42:27Mary Lee: What does it take to, for you to have the health in which you can be able to do that, to hold them up?
- 42:35Mary Lee: What's it going to take to have that strength in your arms and your body to be able to, to lift weight, to hold them up?
- 42:42Mary Lee: What does it take for you to be able to walk a flight of stairs in your house?
- 42:45Mary Lee: So you don't have to be put in a home.
- 42:47Mary Lee: And then that's when we start That, that works like, Oh, okay, I have a responsibility today and you have this life tomorrow.
- 42:59Carrie Lupoli: Yes.
- 43:00Carrie Lupoli: And we know how fast time goes.
- 43:03Carrie Lupoli: I cannot believe that my two girls do not live with me anymore.
- 43:07Carrie Lupoli: They were babies five minutes ago.
- 43:09Carrie Lupoli: We know that.
- 43:10Carrie Lupoli: So do we want to just keep allowing the sand in that, in that hourglass to just keep going without actually doing the things that we need to do.
- 43:22Carrie Lupoli: And I think you just make such good points in that.
- 43:24Carrie Lupoli: Like vision casting.
- 43:25Carrie Lupoli: What do I want to see and do in the book Outlived by Dr.
- 43:30Carrie Lupoli: Peter Atia.
- 43:30Carrie Lupoli: He talks about, our centenarian decathlon.
- 43:35Carrie Lupoli: what are the 10 things that we want to be able to do when we're 100?
- 43:38Carrie Lupoli: And right now I'm recording this from a hotel room in New York city because traveling is the number one thing.
- 43:46Carrie Lupoli: I was in Dallas last weekend.
- 43:48Carrie Lupoli: I'll be in Colorado next week.
- 43:49Carrie Lupoli: I want to be able to continue to explore.
- 43:54Carrie Lupoli: I was just in, zion National Park a few weeks ago, my husband and I, it was our first Empty Nester trip.
- 44:00Carrie Lupoli: And I was just thinking about so many people that I knew that could never do that trip.
- 44:05Carrie Lupoli: Because it took a physicality that the majority of people in our country right now do not have.
- 44:13Carrie Lupoli: And I thought, how sad that they're going to miss some of the most beautiful landscape.
- 44:18Carrie Lupoli: That this world has to offer because we're so focused on the wrong things.
- 44:23Carrie Lupoli: And, and that is really important.
- 44:25Carrie Lupoli: I'd love to share one other piece around something that we can maybe take away in terms of our thinking because, this was a really huge revelation for me when I learned about it years ago.
- 44:37Carrie Lupoli: And this is another thing that I teach women when it comes to our mindsets and really wrapping our head around what matters.
- 44:43Carrie Lupoli: So I as an empty nester, I started playing pickleball, which is, I think like required.
- 44:49Carrie Lupoli: For all, all people over 50 to start doing.
- 44:52Carrie Lupoli: No, I won't do it.
- 44:54Carrie Lupoli: It's so fun.
- 44:55Carrie Lupoli: I gotta be honest.
- 44:56Carrie Lupoli: It's so fun.
- 44:57Carrie Lupoli: Wow.
- 44:58Carrie Lupoli: So think about the racket, a pickleball racket.
- 45:00Carrie Lupoli: Okay.
- 45:00Carrie Lupoli: So we have these rackets.
- 45:01Carrie Lupoli: And when I was in college this guy had a fake ID racket, I call it, where he had New Jersey and it was a poster board and it looked like the New Jersey license, but it had a cutout in it.
- 45:14Carrie Lupoli: And I like, you stuck your head through the cutout and he took a picture and then he printed it out, laminated it.
- 45:19Carrie Lupoli: And that was our fake ID.
- 45:20Carrie Lupoli: We all knew this guy was getting caught, right?
- 45:22Carrie Lupoli: Eventually it was a racket.
- 45:24Carrie Lupoli: He was making money, but we knew there was going to be a long term consequence to that.
- 45:28Carrie Lupoli: So I want you to think about how we all have these rackets in our bodies.
- 45:33Carrie Lupoli: being in our mind.
- 45:34Carrie Lupoli: Every one of us has these rackets.
- 45:36Carrie Lupoli: And for us, these rackets are these thoughts, these beliefs that feel very, very true.
- 45:43Carrie Lupoli: And they feel true because that little girl in our head has told us for years that they are true.
- 45:49Carrie Lupoli: So let's take a racket, a belief, I don't have time to work out.
- 45:52Carrie Lupoli: I don't have time to move my body.
- 45:54Carrie Lupoli: Okay.
- 45:55Carrie Lupoli: So much like this guy who was selling fake IDs, his racket was these fake IDs.
- 46:00Carrie Lupoli: There was a long term consequence.
- 46:01Carrie Lupoli: There's a long term consequence for every racket.
- 46:03Carrie Lupoli: What was his long term kind of consequence?
- 46:05Carrie Lupoli: He got caught.
- 46:06Carrie Lupoli: He got kicked out of school.
- 46:08Carrie Lupoli: Of course, right?
- 46:09Carrie Lupoli: Like we knew that was happening, but what was the short term payoff?
- 46:13Carrie Lupoli: Every racket has some sort of short term payoff that justifies doing it.
- 46:17Carrie Lupoli: And for him, it was money.
- 46:18Carrie Lupoli: He was making money hand over fist.
- 46:21Carrie Lupoli: And typical rackets have money.
- 46:24Carrie Lupoli: If I think about the racket of a belief, like, I don't have time to work out, what's the long term consequence of that?
- 46:31Carrie Lupoli: If I never move my body, I'll never be able to move my body.
- 46:35Carrie Lupoli: If I want to travel and put my overhead suitcase in the, in the compartment, I better be able to pick up like 50 pounds today, or I'm never going to be able to do that in 20 years.
- 46:44Carrie Lupoli: That's the long term consequence.
- 46:46Carrie Lupoli: So if we all know that, why in the world do we not do it?
- 46:50Carrie Lupoli: How many people say, I know what to do, I just don't do it.
- 46:53Carrie Lupoli: this racket has us believing, and I call it truthiness, there's some truth to it.
- 46:57Carrie Lupoli: You might be very, very, very busy, but you're not too busy to work out.
- 47:03Carrie Lupoli: But why does that racket overpower our decision?
- 47:07Carrie Lupoli: Because there's always a short term payoff with every racket.
- 47:10Carrie Lupoli: And for this fake ID guy, it was money.
- 47:13Carrie Lupoli: He was willing to risk the long term consequence because he was making a lot of money.
- 47:18Carrie Lupoli: Why are we willing to risk the long term payoff or the long term consequence?
- 47:21Carrie Lupoli: Because of the payoff.
- 47:23Carrie Lupoli: The payoff is justification.
- 47:25Carrie Lupoli: I can justify not working out because my truth is I don't have time.
- 47:31Carrie Lupoli: And so that justification keeps us from feeling guilty about not working out.
- 47:37Carrie Lupoli: I just don't have time to work out.
- 47:38Carrie Lupoli: I just don't have time.
- 47:40Carrie Lupoli: It's just that.
- 47:41Carrie Lupoli: true.
- 47:42Carrie Lupoli: And we can't get out of our own way enough to see that that racket is actually not true.
- 47:49Carrie Lupoli: It's our truth, but it might not be the truth.
- 47:52Carrie Lupoli: And because we can keep justifying, I don't have enough money to invest in myself.
- 47:56Carrie Lupoli: I don't have time like I don't like green vegetables, whatever it is.
- 48:03Mary Lee: I want to stay in my bed an extra five, 10 minutes.
- 48:05Mary Lee: Exactly.
- 48:06Mary Lee: There's a
- 48:07Carrie Lupoli: long term consequence that we know, but the short term payoff is more motivating.
- 48:11Carrie Lupoli: We can justify if we felt really guilty about it.
- 48:15Carrie Lupoli: If we had no justification for it, we would just probably do it.
- 48:19Carrie Lupoli: But because we can justify the choice.
- 48:22Carrie Lupoli: We don't do the thing.
- 48:24Carrie Lupoli: So I'd ask all of your listeners to say, what rackets are holding you back from actually doing it?
- 48:30Carrie Lupoli: And that racket is justifying you not doing something.
- 48:34Carrie Lupoli: It is a massive contributor to our long term success.
- 48:38Carrie Lupoli: And that's why I say all the time, self awareness is health.
- 48:41Carrie Lupoli: If you can start to be aware of that racket, and then pivot that thought, we have a strategy called SNAP.
- 48:46Carrie Lupoli: Stop, notice, and notice what you're thinking, what you're telling yourself right now.
- 48:51Carrie Lupoli: Ask yourself, is this really true or is it truthiness?
- 48:55Carrie Lupoli: And then pivot that thought, even just for a minute, pivot that thought.
- 48:58Carrie Lupoli: What if I say I have five minutes to exercise?
- 49:01Carrie Lupoli: Right.
- 49:02Carrie Lupoli: You can start to recognize that some of those rackets are not true and they're actually holding you back.
- 49:07Carrie Lupoli: And how can you at 1 percent a day make progress in the right direction?
- 49:12Carrie Lupoli: Because you're making progress and you're going to 1 percent one way or the other 1 percent decline or 1 percent increase.
- 49:17Carrie Lupoli: If you're not actively working on changing your thinking, you will always go in the 1 percent decline.
- 49:24Mary Lee: Wow.
- 49:24Mary Lee: Carrie, that is so good.
- 49:25Mary Lee: I was going to say that.
- 49:26Mary Lee: So listeners, let's recap that.
- 49:28Mary Lee: Say it again because it's, it merits repeating.
- 49:32Carrie Lupoli: Yeah, I, I ask them all the time, what are you going to do if you don't figure this out?
- 49:35Carrie Lupoli: And they say, I'll stay the same.
- 49:36Carrie Lupoli: And I'm like, you'll never stay the same.
- 49:38Mary Lee: Yeah.
- 49:39Mary Lee: Further decline.
- 49:40Mary Lee: So I want everybody listeners grab a pen and paper or pick out your phone, pick up your phone and do voicemail or voice message, What is your racket?
- 49:50Mary Lee: What is the short term goal and the long term consequence?
- 49:54Mary Lee: It's so good.
- 49:55Mary Lee: you could design a workbook right there, Carrie.
- 49:58Mary Lee: Right there.
- 49:59Mary Lee: The racket, the racketeer.
- 50:00Mary Lee: So
- 50:00Carrie Lupoli: much content.
- 50:02Carrie Lupoli: this is why I knew I had to do something in this work because The stuff that I did to fix myself in a lot of ways, and this is why so many of my clients end up going to become certified lifestyle coaches because once they know it, they can't not teach it.
- 50:23Carrie Lupoli: And you've got, we have to share this message.
- 50:25Carrie Lupoli: It just needs to become a movement because it's one thing to be able to, this is why it's so much more than weight on the scale, right?
- 50:31Carrie Lupoli: Once you make a transformation in yourself, you want that for other people because you know what life looks like on that other side.
- 50:37Carrie Lupoli: I call it like we live on pain island.
- 50:40Carrie Lupoli: We don't even know it.
- 50:41Carrie Lupoli: A lot of us don't even realize because we're all living on pain island and we're just like, Oh my gosh, it sucks.
- 50:46Carrie Lupoli: This is normal life.
- 50:47Carrie Lupoli: But there is a world on pleasure island.
- 50:50Carrie Lupoli: That just so many of us are living on and those of us that are living on it.
- 50:55Carrie Lupoli: We like
- 50:57Mary Lee: heaven and hell on earth.
- 50:59Mary Lee: It's how we perceive it.
- 51:00Mary Lee: We create it in our own minds.
- 51:01Carrie Lupoli: Yeah.
- 51:01Carrie Lupoli: And we think a meal plan or a diet is actually going to get us over to pleasure Island.
- 51:05Carrie Lupoli: And it's just going to keep you literally circling around pain Island for the rest of your life.
- 51:09Mary Lee: Yeah.
- 51:10Mary Lee: Oh my goodness.
- 51:12Mary Lee: That's great.
- 51:12Mary Lee: I love how I was gonna get deeper into what you do for your clients, but you know what, you've given us two beautiful formulas in this good, in this conversation.
- 51:22Mary Lee: And the one is the protein, carbs, fats.
- 51:25Mary Lee: So the PFC three.
- 51:26Mary Lee: Yep.
- 51:27Mary Lee: And then the snap stop, snap notice,
- 51:32Carrie Lupoli: ask,
- 51:33Mary Lee: and then pivot.
- 51:35Mary Lee: Pivot.
- 51:36Carrie Lupoli: And one thing I often say my clients will do is when they're eating, right?
- 51:39Carrie Lupoli: They eat every three hours and your body starts to talk to you and you realize I'm getting hungry.
- 51:43Carrie Lupoli: I tell them to snap when they're eating just so we can get in front of our rackets, right?
- 51:48Carrie Lupoli: So like while you're eating, do a little snap moment because that's going to keep you more self aware.
- 51:55Mary Lee: This conversation is worth a continuation part two, three, four, five.
- 51:59Carrie Lupoli: I could talk about this all day.
- 52:02Mary Lee: And your passion really comes through.
- 52:04Mary Lee: Tell our listeners, first of all, what are some of the.
- 52:08Mary Lee: The programs, the offerings that you have, including your podcast, cause we didn't even touch on that.
- 52:13Mary Lee: Yes.
- 52:13Mary Lee: Yes.
- 52:14Mary Lee: They can find you amongst all the media coverage that you've had to date so far, and I'm sure a lot more.
- 52:20Carrie Lupoli: Oh, I love it.
- 52:21Carrie Lupoli: I love it.
- 52:21Carrie Lupoli: So I think the best place to go is Carrie Lupoli.
- 52:24Carrie Lupoli: com, L U P O L I and Carrie, like Carrie Underwood, Carrie Bradshaw, one of those two, and I have my own private practice.
- 52:35Carrie Lupoli: We are.
- 52:36Carrie Lupoli: Not always accepting new clients because we are very, very careful about how many women we work with because we are very comprehensive and personalized.
- 52:45Carrie Lupoli: I have 15 coaches which is incredible, but all of my coaches too have gone through the transformation themselves and wanted to be able to support others.
- 52:56Carrie Lupoli: in my private practice is called Disruptive Nutrition, but I also have partnered with.
- 53:01Carrie Lupoli: Other health pros that teach the similar concepts and we have like minded beliefs and actually developed a more of a DIY approach.
- 53:12Carrie Lupoli: Very similar to this, just because I can bring in more people that way.
- 53:17Carrie Lupoli: But really through that, we call it PFC three actually.
- 53:19Carrie Lupoli: And it's a collaborative movement with celebrity nutritionists doctors people.
- 53:25Carrie Lupoli: Personal trainers, physical therapists to be able to support people in that ecosystem around mind, body and lifestyle.
- 53:32Carrie Lupoli: But our real goal there is to train other health pros.
- 53:35Carrie Lupoli: So if you're a nutritionist, if you're a dietitian, if you're a physical therapist, if you're a personal trainer, a doctor, A menopause doula.
- 53:41Carrie Lupoli: A menopause doula.
- 53:43Carrie Lupoli: We have a lot of people like who have an expertise in menopause and who learn how to teach their clients how to fuel their bodies in a way.
- 53:51Carrie Lupoli: So we have a really amazing certification program to be able to help people to be able to serve their clients too in PFC3.
- 53:57Carrie Lupoli: So if you go to my website, then you can see where to go from there.
- 54:00Mary Lee: We'll get all that in the show notes, including your handles where people can find you on social and on your podcast as well.
- 54:07Mary Lee: And tell us just a little snippet about your podcast.
- 54:11Carrie Lupoli: Yes.
- 54:11Carrie Lupoli: It's called diet disruptors podcast, and it really is about disrupting the I think the abusive messaging that the diet industry has.
- 54:22Carrie Lupoli: Has put forth for decades and it goes right along with what the food industry has told us.
- 54:27Carrie Lupoli: And honestly, our healthcare system, we believe that we go pharmaceutical before we recognize that food is medicine.
- 54:33Carrie Lupoli: And so I really am working to unapologetically disrupt all of these norms that we have believed.
- 54:40Carrie Lupoli: I say, I'm like your best friend.
- 54:41Carrie Lupoli: That's going to tell you what you need to hear, not necessarily what you want to hear, but in a simple Sustainable, satisfying way because my whole point is that we should not be obsessing about this.
- 54:50Carrie Lupoli: We should learn it.
- 54:51Carrie Lupoli: We should be able to make it a part of our lives and then go do the things that we were actually put on this earth to do.
- 54:56Carrie Lupoli: So that's what we talk about.
- 54:58Mary Lee: Yes.
- 54:58Mary Lee: So we're going to continue to listen to those wise listeners.
- 55:01Mary Lee: Are we going to get wise?
- 55:02Carrie Lupoli: Oh, I love that.
- 55:04Carrie Lupoli: Yes.
- 55:05Carrie Lupoli: Slogan.
- 55:06Mary Lee: And unapologetic because when that hormone fluctuates and the hormones change, estrogen egress so does the filter.
- 55:14Mary Lee: That filter goes down and it's gone.
- 55:17Carrie Lupoli: We actually have shirts.
- 55:19Carrie Lupoli: I like to bring out like different shirts and we have this really great shirt called bold, balanced and beautiful on the front and balance meaning our balanced blood sugar and I love as well as a balanced life.
- 55:29Carrie Lupoli: But down the sleeve it says unapologetically me and I want every woman to recognize that you are who you are and you weren't meant to be like anybody else and be unapologetic about it.
- 55:40Mary Lee: I'm going to get that shirt and I know that we can find it because you have a shop on your Disruptive Nutrition website.
- 55:46Carrie Lupoli: Yep, on our Disruptive Nutrition website you can also get it through carrielapole.
- 55:49Carrie Lupoli: com too.
- 55:50Mary Lee: That's excellent.
- 55:51Mary Lee: Congratulations to you on having a shop partnering with these different companies.
- 55:55Mary Lee: And designing your own T shirts so that you can have, you can spread your message.
- 55:59Carrie Lupoli: Yeah.
- 56:00Carrie Lupoli: It's really important to me.
- 56:01Carrie Lupoli: We also just released with my collaborative, a product line because, we didn't really get into this, but six spinning plates, nutrition, exercise hydration, sleep, Sleep, managing our stress and supplements.
- 56:13Carrie Lupoli: Those are the six things that we need to be knowledgeable about in order to be able to keep ourselves healthy.
- 56:18Carrie Lupoli: And the problem is there's so much garbage out there when it comes to supplementation.
- 56:21Carrie Lupoli: People go after that as like their first piece.
- 56:24Carrie Lupoli: I say supplementation is just that it supplements a foundation.
- 56:28Carrie Lupoli: And we've been partnering with.
- 56:31Carrie Lupoli: some really incredible health pros in the space to be able to develop some clean supplementation that's very basic and not over to not overdo it.
- 56:41Carrie Lupoli: We, we overdo it when it comes to supplementation.
- 56:44Mary Lee: I have so much enjoyed this.
- 56:46Mary Lee: I know the listeners have to packed full of knowledge, probably a million questions still to ask.
- 56:53Mary Lee: So listeners, if there's still things going on in your head, go to the websites.
- 56:57Mary Lee: Those links will be in the show notes.
- 56:58Mary Lee: Take a listen to Carrie's.
- 57:00Mary Lee: Podcast as well to get really deep into more conversation around nutrition and awesome.
- 57:07Mary Lee: Legit about stepping into your age of wisdom.
- 57:10Carrie Lupoli: Thank you.
- 57:11Carrie Lupoli: Yes.
- 57:11Carrie Lupoli: Our bodies have just been amazing.
- 57:13Carrie Lupoli: Let's just celebrate them.
- 57:14Mary Lee: Yes.
- 57:16Mary Lee: Great way to end.
- 57:17Mary Lee: Thank you so much.
- 57:19Mary Lee: Wow.
- 57:20Mary Lee: Wasn't that an enlightening session with Carrie Lupoli?
- 57:24Mary Lee: I learned so much.
- 57:25Mary Lee: I'm sure you did too.
- 57:26Mary Lee: Here are some of my key takeaways that we hope you will remember from today's conversation.
- 57:32Mary Lee: Number one: Growing up with media messaging that glorifies certain body types has deeply impacted our perception of health and of beauty.
- 57:42Mary Lee: Carrie pointed out the long lasting damages these messages have done, especially to women that are really starting to rear their ugly head as we move into menopause.
- 57:51Mary Lee: And we must understand.
- 57:52Mary Lee: the importance of unlearning these harmful beliefs.
- 57:55Mary Lee: How do you do that?
- 57:57Mary Lee: I know for me, I practice self love and gratitude.
- 58:00Mary Lee: Number two: scale and size are not the true measures of health.
- 58:04Mary Lee: One of the most crucial messages was redefining what working means.
- 58:09Mary Lee: It's essential to understand that the number on the scale doesn't necessarily equate to health.
- 58:13Mary Lee: Health is much more about how we feel, your energy levels and your body's actual functionality.
- 58:20Mary Lee: And going back to the point of self love, the more I feel into what it means to be compassionate to myself, the more I can give.
- 58:28Mary Lee: And for me, that is truly a sign of good health.
- 58:31Mary Lee: Number three: Carrie's journey underscores the importance of self awareness.
- 58:35Mary Lee: Understanding why you want certain things and how your body works can help you make more informed and lasting lifestyle changes.
- 58:42Mary Lee: Number four: food is both fuel For the body and the soul.
- 58:46Mary Lee: It's vital to shift our perception of food from something we vilify or use to soothe ourselves, to viewing it as essential nourishment our bodies need.
- 58:57Mary Lee: Number five: understanding PFC3.
- 59:00Mary Lee: Carrie's fundamental approach to nutrition revolves around the balance of protein, fats, and carbs.
- 59:06Mary Lee: This combination is crucial in maintaining blood sugar stabilization and overall health.
- 59:11Mary Lee: Remember, it's not just about what you eat but how you balance these essential nutrients in every meal.
- 59:17Mary Lee: And number six: the snap principle, a powerful tool to combat self sabotage and transform your mindset.
- 59:24Mary Lee: So, next time you find yourself falling into old habits or negative thoughts, remember to snap- stop, notice, ask, and pivot.
- 59:34Mary Lee: It's clear that breaking away from traditional dieting mindsets and embracing a balanced self aware approach to nutrition and health can profoundly influence your overall well being.
- 59:44Mary Lee: And on the point of choosing food that fuels our bodies, many individuals I talk to understand proteins and carbs and fats.
- 59:52Mary Lee: They're just confused about portion size, how much during the day, and what are good sources.
- 59:57Mary Lee: Especially when it comes to protein and women need to up their protein as we age.
- 1:00:03Mary Lee: In fact, one of the burning questions I get when I talk about how much protein should I be consuming and why is it so vital?
- 1:00:11Mary Lee: This curiosity led me to recognize a significant gap in nutrition guidance for menopausal women.
- 1:00:17Mary Lee: There's a lot of confusion out there.
- 1:00:19Mary Lee: I'm here to provide you with the clarity and practical advice you need to take control of your meal planning while also addressing muscle loss that comes with aging.
- 1:00:28Mary Lee: So, I created the Power Up with Protein guide.
- 1:00:32Mary Lee: This resource is packed with actionable tips and strategies to boost your protein intake, enhance your eating habits, and improve your overall wellbeing.
- 1:00:41Mary Lee: It answers all those questions, how much, how often during the day, and what are some excellent sources of protein that are going to properly fuel my body.
- 1:00:50Mary Lee: To get your hands on it, simply click the link in the show notes.
- 1:00:54Mary Lee: by clicking on the link you're not just getting the guide, You're joining a community rich in insightful and proven strategies for managing menopause symptoms.
- 1:01:01Mary Lee: So let's power up your menopause transition together.
- 1:01:04Mary Lee: Don't miss the opportunity to take charge of your health.
- 1:01:07Mary Lee: Thank you for joining us today.
- 1:01:09Mary Lee: Don't forget to check out Carrie's Podcast, the diet disruptors.
- 1:01:13Mary Lee: And on that note, one last thing before you go, I have some exciting news starting with our very next episode in the month of November, we'll be rebranding as.
- 1:01:24Mary Lee: The menopause disruptor podcast.
- 1:01:26Mary Lee: Now, did I get that idea from Carrie?
- 1:01:28Mary Lee: Not really.
- 1:01:29Mary Lee: It had been festering in my head for quite some time.
- 1:01:32Mary Lee: Honestly, this change reflects my frustration with the current approach to hormonal health, where women often feel dismissed or ignored by their physicians.
- 1:01:40Mary Lee: There's a crucial need to change the conversation around menopause, both in the medical field and society as a whole.
- 1:01:46Mary Lee: as a whole.
- 1:01:47Mary Lee: My mission through this podcast is to provide knowledge and evidence based research on menopause and symptom management, but it is also about challenging outdated narratives.
- 1:01:57Mary Lee: So let's disrupt the status quo together.
- 1:02:00Mary Lee: I look forward to unveiling the new show title, The Menopause Disruptor Podcast.
- 1:02:04Mary Lee: Until then, stay empowered, stay informed.
- 1:02:07Mary Lee: Remember, midlife should be the best life, and it will be! Namaste.