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- 0:00As the joke goes, the two things that are inevitable are death
- 0:03and taxes, right? So.
- 0:06Yeah. Absolutely.
- 0:08I, I like to think about it sometimes and not in a place
- 0:12where like, Oh my God, I want to, I want to take my own life.
- 0:15It's not that it's like, how can I actually live?
- 0:18How can I actually show up today in a version of myself that is
- 0:22allowing me to really expand and evolve and grow because that's
- 0:28what's going to make the impact. That's what's going to show up
- 0:31as magic. When you are taking the risk,
- 0:34when you are taking the chance and your risk and my risk and my
- 0:39change and challenge, they're going to look completely
- 0:41different. For me, it was moving across the
- 0:43world, living by myself and figuring it all out right for
- 0:47you, like you trying a new food right like it doesn't have to be
- 0:52let's blow up our lives and see what happens kind of
- 0:54conversation. It's.
- 0:56Whatever's. Causing you a little bit of
- 0:58discomfort. Is it setting that uncomfortable
- 1:02boundary with someone or having that difficult conversation?
- 1:06Is it, you know, trying something new?
- 1:08Maybe there's a sport that you want to try or an activity that
- 1:13you're nervous to do, right? These are the pieces where the
- 1:17more we lean into it and they can be really small.
- 1:20They don't have to be big. The more you do that, it becomes
- 1:23like a muscle and then you become more unapologetic.
- 1:28You become this person that you're like, wow, like I do
- 1:32that. I am that person that does tries
- 1:35new things or evolves or changes.
- 1:39Hello Field podcast audience. Welcome back today.
- 1:42I'm with a new friend here now. I met her several months ago and
- 1:47we've had a lot going on in both of our lives.
- 1:48We are finally able to come together today and have this
- 1:51conversation. I've been needed to have her on
- 1:55this plan ever the first day we met.
- 1:58So I think we're both so excited to be here and life continues to
- 2:02life for both of us. And so that played a role in the
- 2:05time it took us to get together, but also has a way of working
- 2:09out and being just the right time.
- 2:10And I think that's going to be the case today as I have this
- 2:13conversation with Alexandra Birch.
- 2:16She describes herself as somebody who's really holistic
- 2:20mind, body and spirit, but science is a part of what she
- 2:24too and, and how she approaches the work that she cares so much
- 2:29about. And that's really going to come
- 2:30through interestingly today as we introduce her as a person
- 2:35through these talking points. But you're going to be able to
- 2:36see how it so succinctly connects with how she shows up
- 2:40in the world and supports women. So starting with that, Welcome
- 2:45Alexandra to the Field podcast. I'm so glad to have you here.
- 2:50Oh, thank you so much. I'm so excited.
- 2:52And like you said in your intro, we've been trying to make this
- 2:56happen and I'm so excited to be here and I can't wait to get
- 2:59into this conversation with you. I know I agree.
- 3:03I agree. Well, let's get right into it.
- 3:06Talk to me about your journey with self prioritizing
- 3:10self-care. This is a big nut for women to
- 3:13wrap their heads around so many times.
- 3:16So talk to me about your journey with that.
- 3:19Yeah, totally. I think this has become such a
- 3:21buzzword, right? self-care, take care of
- 3:24yourself, prioritize yourself. It's it's something I see a lot
- 3:28with women that I speak with on a day-to-day basis from clients,
- 3:32but even just women I talk to, right?
- 3:35And my journey has been a very unique one in the sense of I
- 3:43started out as a competitive athlete and at a very young age
- 3:47I got very clear that my body was about performance.
- 3:51What I, what I put into it, whether it was sleep, food or
- 3:56anything like that, my body would perform.
- 3:59And that became an obsession of mine of like, how can I maximize
- 4:02the performance as much as possible?
- 4:05And that served me for many, many years.
- 4:09And then when it didn't, and that's when I stopped
- 4:12competitive sports. And all of a sudden I went from
- 4:16training for working on training to go to the Canadian Olympics
- 4:22to all of a sudden I had no, no purpose, no drive, no goal.
- 4:26And I at that time I was going to university.
- 4:30And then I got into partying and having a really great time.
- 4:34And it was the first time that I had to pay attention to one,
- 4:39what I ate, one what I drank, I started to gain weight.
- 4:45And all of a sudden this, this spiral of fully like I, I can't
- 4:49do whatever I want whenever I wanted became part of the
- 4:52conversation because I never, I never had to learn that in that
- 4:56way. And for me, that was my first
- 4:59initiation into self-care, But I didn't know what that's what it
- 5:03was called at the time. And then I battled a long
- 5:07journey of eating disorders for a long time.
- 5:11And that really started to become even more prominent when
- 5:16I found out my dad was sick. My dad was sick with ALS for
- 5:20over 20 years. And that the only reason I think
- 5:24he actually lived that long was because of his commitment to
- 5:29health, nutrition, his mind, his mindset around it.
- 5:33And at the time, my mindset, my health was very unhealthy.
- 5:39And I had a man who was so hyper focused on it.
- 5:42And I got to see the direct impact of when you do to take do
- 5:46take care of yourself. So that was my second initiation
- 5:51into self-care, right in a different form.
- 5:54And because of my dad is actually the reason I got into
- 6:00the work that I do now, which is supporting women with nutrition
- 6:04around preconception, fertility, all of that.
- 6:08And the reason why that even became part of the conversation
- 6:12for me was at the time I was working in corporate.
- 6:16And we all know what a lovely corporate job can be when we
- 6:21work a 95 very much surrounded around men's time frame and
- 6:28hormones and all of that. And I had it very much in my
- 6:31head that the harder you work, the faster you climb, which was
- 6:36my reality. I got very high up in my
- 6:38corporate job and at the time I was on birth control for many
- 6:43years and I didn't have a period for, I would say over 4 years,
- 6:49five years. And as a woman, that is a long
- 6:54time to not have a cycle, not knowing what is going on, not
- 6:59understanding what is happening. And it was, I remember this
- 7:05distinct moment at the time, I didn't think I wanted kids.
- 7:08And my ex partner and I broke up and I had this kind of coming,
- 7:16coming to the light moment, I guess you call whether you
- 7:19believe in God or anything. So I believed I had this moment
- 7:23of clarity and I realized that I wanted children.
- 7:27At the time, I was 32 and I was terrified of the idea of not
- 7:33being being able to have children because a lot of
- 7:37information out there talks about, oh, if you are past 30,
- 7:41you know, your chances go down even more.
- 7:43If you're closer to 35, it's even further.
- 7:46And I just couldn't accept that. And so even though I had a
- 7:51background in nutrition, I decided to go in and specialize
- 7:54into fertility and preconception.
- 7:58So I went back to school, restarted a whole journey and it
- 8:01was more of a selfish pursuit than any anything.
- 8:04And then the more I did it, the more women started to come to me
- 8:08and ask me questions and started to get more involved.
- 8:11And that's how my business really started was purely out of
- 8:15a selfish reason of getting into understanding my body,
- 8:19understanding self-care, understanding how can I come
- 8:24back to myself, come back to my body and why I give you kind of
- 8:30this synopsis of my, my whole life.
- 8:32There was a lot there. But I think what I've learnt
- 8:36over the journey of those decades of my life is that our
- 8:40body is constantly giving us signs and signals of something
- 8:44that is happening. So whether or not you have a
- 8:47period that is your body giving you a sign and signal to just
- 8:51pay attention that something needs to be rebalanced.
- 8:56You know, if you have an ache in, in a certain area of your
- 9:00body, it is often tied to an emotion, a feeling, something
- 9:04that needs to be paid attention to.
- 9:08And I think my journey with self-care and I'm not perfect at
- 9:13this. I, I don't pretend to be because
- 9:15our bodies are constantly changing.
- 9:17We're constantly being introduced into a new version of
- 9:20ourselves, but I think we're the goal here is to start to
- 9:26understand, to slow down, to come back to stillness, get in
- 9:30touch with yourself, get in touch with your body and then
- 9:35prioritize whatever's coming up from there.
- 9:37So I that was a very long winded way of saying that self-care is
- 9:44so much more than just putting a face mask on and what you do on
- 9:49a day-to-day basis. It's my belief is really around
- 9:53how do you listen to yourself and then prioritize once you've
- 9:57slowed down and listened. Thank you so much for that
- 10:01because you hit on so many important points and how you
- 10:05learned about your body and about yourself and moved through
- 10:09that from the I, I'm, I was very not at the level you were, but I
- 10:14was, I was a very competitive person growing up.
- 10:17I'm still competitive today, just shows up in a different
- 10:19way. And, and it came from a family
- 10:22of athletes. Daughters were all college
- 10:24athletes, husband was a college athlete.
- 10:26I was until I got an injury for from just overdoing my body.
- 10:32You know, I'm talking about not listening to clues that your
- 10:34body's giving you. And so with all of that, you
- 10:38have this kind of belief system that I'm moving my body all the
- 10:40time and I fit in this physical way.
- 10:42So you think you're healthy, you think you're taking care of
- 10:45yourself and you don't you miss all the other cues of what's
- 10:49being sent to you. Like, for instance, my
- 10:51overworking, my body and my foot blowing at my freshman year at
- 10:55college. That had been like telling me a
- 10:58story for a while, but I just kept pushing it back.
- 11:01You know, no pain, no gain. All those things we learn that
- 11:04are not necessarily healthy things.
- 11:07And we keep pushing our bodies. And we don't pay attention to
- 11:10the cues that she's trying to tell us along the way of other
- 11:14areas that need to be tended to, that rest that how we feel her
- 11:19is necessary, it taking time to be present with her that when we
- 11:23start missing periods, something's out of whack in
- 11:26there. And that's not something we
- 11:28wear. We go into, you know, we go from
- 11:30being especially when you're competitive, you go from being
- 11:32competitive and you wear that like a badge of honors.
- 11:36Like no one will outwork me. No one will out do me.
- 11:39I know how to compete, I know how to win and I'll just
- 11:42bulldoze everything through. But you go in kind of this silo
- 11:45tunnel and you miss all these other cues, like your body not
- 11:49having a period of like there's some missing pieces here and you
- 11:53can't just go down this one Rd. taking your health and yourself
- 11:57care is a broader spectrum than that.
- 12:00But you mentioned that kind of those life, it's getting moments
- 12:06that got your attention at different times.
- 12:07So hold on a minute. There's more going on here then.
- 12:11And I'm going to have to pay attention to all the pieces and
- 12:14parts of it. And now I'm going to have to
- 12:16learn and realize that there's a multitude of facets and layers
- 12:21to my health beyond these things that I initially thought were
- 12:25it. And we're part of the journey.
- 12:27I'm going to unlearn and relearn some ways to show up for myself
- 12:31in this. Yeah, absolutely.
- 12:33You nailed it. And I think like one of the
- 12:36biggest things is the unlearning, right?
- 12:40Our society definitely pushes performance.
- 12:43It will be the first thing that I would say is that in the
- 12:47Western world, it's really around how much output can you
- 12:51put, right? Like the more you work and the
- 12:54more results you get. And it's almost an expectation
- 12:58now, you know, the first one in, the last one out.
- 13:01And I know there's certain industries is that if you don't
- 13:03do that, you're gone. And the reality is, is the more
- 13:08work I've done around learning women's hormones, again, this
- 13:12was for me personally, but then with the women that I've worked
- 13:15with over the years, is that our bodies are literally not
- 13:19designed to work that way. We can't do it.
- 13:22We can't sustain it. And that's why you see so many
- 13:25women struggling with burnout, stress, overwhelm, you know,
- 13:29lack of their cycle. You know, there's so much that
- 13:33is happening. Even PMS.
- 13:35Like, I really believe that PMS is not something that women need
- 13:38to struggle with. But we've been taught, you know,
- 13:41that's your monthly cycle. Suck it up.
- 13:43And that's it. And the reality is, is those are
- 13:46just your body telling you that something is out of balance.
- 13:49And I remember one of my favorite things, the study that
- 13:52I read that they said, you know, the result of your period right
- 13:57now is actually how you've been taking care of yourself three
- 14:00months prior. And that's really how your body
- 14:04is giving you those clues that, you know, if you're in a really
- 14:08rough period, something's been happening for the last three
- 14:12months that you really need to start to pay attention to and
- 14:14bring back balance to. Yeah, and these are the things
- 14:19we need to talk about because women don't know this.
- 14:21And we're just now starting to crack the surface on having
- 14:25these conversations and spaces to do it and providing
- 14:29information that no one's ever told us.
- 14:31You don't get it in Western medicine.
- 14:33They don't tell you this at the doctor's office there.
- 14:35And so it's really big. But I think, you know, we're in
- 14:38a space and time now where women are finally saying no, no more.
- 14:43With this there. We don't have to run into these
- 14:46walls. These walls, we deserve to have
- 14:48all the information. We should not be finding out
- 14:51that we're in peri menopause when we're five years into it.
- 14:55We should not treat cramps and PMS and miss periods as normal.
- 15:01Oh, you've just been super active lately.
- 15:03So, I mean, I ran track and I had one of my best friends was a
- 15:06distance writer and they were like, oh, it's just because
- 15:09you're running so hard, you're training so hard.
- 15:11It's normal to miss periods. Then another friend who was a
- 15:14college volleyball player. Oh, it's no, that's not normal.
- 15:18But that's what we worked. And we're finally like to the
- 15:20point now we're like, no, no. And I think the generations
- 15:24behind us, I have three daughters and they're like, no,
- 15:28we're not going to. We've watched what this has done
- 15:30to our mothers and grandmothers and we see them starting to make
- 15:34noise now. But we're not going to wait till
- 15:36we're 40 and 50 to start making noise about this.
- 15:39We're just not going to go down that road at all.
- 15:41So we're starting to have the conversations, but there's still
- 15:44so many things out there. So I appreciate the honesty and
- 15:48your own curiosity and research and learning that you bring to
- 15:51this. Talk to me about how learning to
- 15:55set healthy boundaries play a role and you putting these
- 15:58parameters in place because we wear working 80 hours a week and
- 16:04climbing ladder in corporate America like a badge of honor in
- 16:08the United States and it's taking us out.
- 16:11And so we have to stop doing it and really redefine what we're
- 16:15going to do for our health. And we'll get into the
- 16:17expectations piece later, but talk to me about that journey of
- 16:20learning about setting healthy boundaries for yourself so you
- 16:24could live in a way that. Was honoring to your health.
- 16:27Oh man, boundaries, such a loaded topic, but so necessary.
- 16:32And oh man. OK, so boundaries is something
- 16:38that I am continuously in work. And I think this is the biggest
- 16:43thing that I really want any woman to hear listening to this
- 16:48right now is that boundaries isn't something you magically
- 16:51just get one day to the next. And then you're like, OK, I
- 16:55don't have to think about it anymore.
- 16:57Because let's be real. As we said at the beginning of
- 17:00this podcast, life, life's, but I don't know about you, but some
- 17:04people in my life, boundaries are really difficult.
- 17:08And then they change and then expectations change.
- 17:11And then, you know, I'll give you an example, like my dad
- 17:15passed away this past year. Now the expectations and my
- 17:20boundaries have had to change for my mom, who's now alone and
- 17:24she's across the world from me. So like these things are ever
- 17:28evolving. And what I would say with
- 17:31boundaries more than anything is really discovering what keeps
- 17:36you most grounded. And for me, that was my biggest
- 17:40journey and learning what that looks like.
- 17:44So I, when my dad got sick, I actually had to move across the
- 17:48world to set a boundary with my family, not because I didn't
- 17:53have, I didn't love them and I didn't, you know, want to be
- 17:57there with them. But what I got very clear on is
- 18:00that I devoted so much of my time and energy to my dad and my
- 18:05mom and, you know, taking care of my dad when he had this
- 18:09illness, that I completely disregarded myself.
- 18:13I wasn't pursuing my health. I wasn't pursuing friends or
- 18:18social life, my, you know, even my work.
- 18:21I was getting in, getting out, doing what I had to.
- 18:24But it wasn't me living my life. OK.
- 18:28So it took me a radical change. And I'm not telling everyone
- 18:32here listening to move Across the world.
- 18:34That's a great option, but it's also not actually addressing the
- 18:38boundaries that need to be addressed in those moments.
- 18:42And what I've learned over the future over the 20 years of
- 18:45working with boundary work is when something is out of
- 18:50balance, meaning your body is giving you a cue, you're off
- 18:54centered, whether that's emotionally or mentally or
- 18:57something like that, it usually means a boundary needs to be
- 19:01set. And it's not a bad thing.
- 19:03Boundaries are actually incredible.
- 19:05They are so powerful and so beautiful.
- 19:08But for me, usually when I'm off balance, I get I overthink a
- 19:14lot. I am very erratic, meaning like
- 19:17I'm able to prioritize things that are very important to me.
- 19:22Usually that's nutrition, usually that's movement and
- 19:26medication for me. And so when I know three things
- 19:31are not being prioritized in my day-to-day life, it usually
- 19:35means the boundary needs to. Be set.
- 19:37And yeah, I believe most people and you can call whatever you
- 19:44want around meditation. It could be prayer, it could be
- 19:48being out in nature like whatever version, but it's some
- 19:50way to come back to yourself. But I believe most those three
- 19:56things tend to be the first boundaries that disappear and in
- 20:02some way. I don't think we're super unique
- 20:05in that, but it may look very differently than you and I,
- 20:09right? Or every person is very unique
- 20:10in that way. Sure.
- 20:11But I know for myself that when one of those threes disappears,
- 20:17I'm completely off balance and things are becoming a little bit
- 20:20more difficult in my life. Yeah, yeah.
- 20:24Thank you for breaking that down and sharing that.
- 20:26And, and I mean, I think it is really difficult when you have
- 20:31someone that you love so much in your life and they become sick
- 20:34with such a a difficult illness. Like there's, you know, there's
- 20:38no cure for it. And so you're like bidding your
- 20:41time and you're feeling like you got to go all in.
- 20:43But in that you can't abandoned yourself.
- 20:46And it can be really tricky to do that.
- 20:49You still have to continue to live your life and find that
- 20:51balance. I have had, I have several, you
- 20:53know, couple of guests and friends, Aaron Copeland and
- 20:56Lynette Weldon, who speaks specifically to caregivers
- 20:59because of what they have ran into in their life and the
- 21:02burnout and walls they hit and how they had to stop abandoning
- 21:06themselves and live their lives within this spectrum.
- 21:10It's still honoring and showing up in the ways that they needed
- 21:14to, but doing it without sacrificing them themselves and
- 21:19and sacrificing the rest of their life.
- 21:21So it's a tricky balance to find.
- 21:22It's not unusual. So thank you for speaking to
- 21:25that because you still have to find ways to live your life.
- 21:28Also, boundaries are are about us.
- 21:31They're about our well-being and our health and we communicate
- 21:34them. And that can be tricky for
- 21:35people in our lives that don't have boundaries and don't live
- 21:39that way. And so sometimes there you do
- 21:41have to do something strategically for yourself to
- 21:45help that will really empower for you to live them out in a
- 21:49way. So thank you for sharing all of
- 21:51that. You mentioned this already
- 21:54earlier about the emotional, mental, physical, spiritual
- 21:58health connections and how they show up in our bodies.
- 22:01You have been missing periods and all these things that are
- 22:04happening in your body that you were like, OK, what's going on
- 22:09here? And you were able to eventually
- 22:10make that connection. Talk to me about your journey
- 22:13and that realization of like, oh hold on, all this stuff is
- 22:16connected. I don't think there was 1 moment
- 22:21that actually kind of triggered that all to happen because it's
- 22:26it's hasn't been. And even still, I would say my
- 22:30body is, I'm still learning it. And I think more than anything,
- 22:37the more time I prioritize slowing down and getting to that
- 22:43version of stillness is when I realized it was more and more
- 22:48connected. I just happened to because of my
- 22:52background in in movement with athleticism and also my
- 22:57schooling with nutrition. I just know those are
- 23:01interconnected so powerfully because I've had that
- 23:03experience. So people that have had that
- 23:06experience need a little more support with that.
- 23:09But when I realized, when I slowed down and kind of silence
- 23:14what's happening in my brain, that's when I realized the
- 23:18connection was more powerful. And I'm going to circle back
- 23:22into just a little bit of what you said.
- 23:24Yes, I think it's very unique around caregivers and having
- 23:28those ability to slow down and create those those things for
- 23:33us. But I see that in in mothers.
- 23:36I, I can't, I'm not a mother yet, but I, I've seen a lot of
- 23:39that where mums give so much to themselves.
- 23:44So sorry. They give so much to their kids
- 23:47and their family and everyone else around them.
- 23:50And this is when I really recognize and I travel a bit
- 23:56because I love traveling. It's one of my core values of my
- 23:59life. But every time I sit there and I
- 24:01listen to the safety, they talk about putting your oxygen mask
- 24:04on for yourself, right? And.
- 24:08Yeah. I love that analogy.
- 24:09And I actually listen to the safety things just so I can hear
- 24:13that every single time. And it reminds me that the
- 24:18connection is there because if you're not actually giving
- 24:21yourself the oxygen, if you're not giving yourself the time and
- 24:24space to actually be with yourself, to understand what you
- 24:29need, you will never be able to show up super powerfully for the
- 24:34people that you care of the most.
- 24:36And that's a very bold, blunt statement.
- 24:39And I, I mean this with so much love and care to anyone that's
- 24:44listening, but I truly believe when you are grounded in
- 24:48yourself and you're taking care of yourself, it is not selfish.
- 24:52It's actually incredibly selfless because then you get to
- 24:56show up to taking care of your kids, showing up to people that
- 25:00are important to you, show up to the work that is important to
- 25:04you as well. And you are able to show up in
- 25:08the best version of yourself. And I think that's where when I
- 25:12made that connection of slowing down, listen, pain, all of a
- 25:19sudden I realized, hey, if I take care of my nutrition, I
- 25:21take care of my movement, I have those moments of stillness.
- 25:25Holy cow, I am a freaking incredible powerful human that I
- 25:29can show up and take care of this world in my version of me.
- 25:34That's pretty freaking cool. So I think that would be the
- 25:38biggest thing is like when I prioritize more of meditation
- 25:42and stillness. And to me, that actually
- 25:44sometimes looks like getting out in nature because I can't quiet
- 25:47my mind when I do that. That's what starts to happen.
- 25:55Yeah, you nailed it. You just, you've laid it out
- 25:57perfectly there. When we take the time to fill
- 26:00our cups, everybody wins. We show up as our healthiest,
- 26:04most authentic selves. We're present.
- 26:06We want to be there. We have the energy to give.
- 26:09We have the attention span to give.
- 26:11We're not operating from an irritated, exhausted space.
- 26:15We're fully available. Then everybody wins.
- 26:18And if we can start flipping, you know?
- 26:20And it's, it's so interesting to me that the narrative has been
- 26:23the opposite of that. But it's also a little bit of
- 26:26how cultural norms and societal norms and patriarchal norms have
- 26:31kind of kept things in the order that they wanted them to be in.
- 26:34And it's when we actually start believing what you just said.
- 26:37And then we share that with other women and bring them along
- 26:40with us. That's when we start shifting,
- 26:42seeing the narrative about these things.
- 26:44So thank you so much for that. I love how you laid that out.
- 26:47And this goes beautifully into showing up for yourself
- 26:50unapologetically and supporting other women in doing so.
- 26:54This is what you're doing. You just described it.
- 26:57It's how you show up in your work.
- 26:59You've learned this thing. You realize, oh gosh, this
- 27:01benefits me. And wait a minute, this can
- 27:04benefit other women too. I've there's a whole different
- 27:07way of doing things here that's much healthier that we need to
- 27:10know about that we need to share.
- 27:13So, and I think it's something that's so interesting because we
- 27:17go through and we do we go to college and get the degree and
- 27:20work the eight hour weeks and take the first controlling this
- 27:25and a sudden we decide to get, you know, at some point, OK,
- 27:28it's time to have a baby. And then we wonder why we can't
- 27:31get pregnant. And it's like, well, we really
- 27:34haven't been feeding our cysts And it's not it's all part of
- 27:37the narratives we're getting. The doctors are putting us on
- 27:40the birth control and that, you know, all these other things and
- 27:44poultry song to go, go, go. And we decided pregnant, go on,
- 27:51hold on a minute. If your body has, if you've not
- 27:54been taking care of your body and your vessel in a way that it
- 27:58can be ready for that, it is not realistic to just stop and
- 28:03think, oh, OK, it's time now. It's going to happen.
- 28:05Your body needs to be tended to and care to in a way that's
- 28:09going to allow that to happen. And so I'm so appreciative of
- 28:15the work you do that addresses all of that.
- 28:18You really combine the the holistic health and taking care
- 28:20of all the spaces with the just plain science behind it.
- 28:25So that's for me, that's really feels like to me, this
- 28:29understanding of that taking care of the whole self has
- 28:33really been that shift. You show up and apologetically
- 28:38would you would you if that's through and and and also the
- 28:43kind of what mood you can also help with that.
- 28:49Yeah, absolutely. I think for me more than
- 28:54anything is I work with women that come to me that sometimes
- 28:59have been trying to get pregnant for, you know, a year's time, 2
- 29:04years time and they think they're broken.
- 29:07And I think the way that we have been set up and the way we
- 29:12approach our bodies is actually broken.
- 29:16And I believe more than anything, and it's interesting,
- 29:21there was a study that just came out there saying infertility
- 29:24rates are at the highest that they've ever been ever.
- 29:28And it is, I truly believe it has to do with our belief around
- 29:34our bodies where we need to snap our fingers.
- 29:38And when you want to get pregnant, you, if you're not
- 29:42pregnant in a month, you think something's wrong with you,
- 29:45right? And more than anything, I also
- 29:50believe, I don't know how how you grew up around getting
- 29:55pregnant and all of that, but I was terrified of it, right?
- 29:59We were taught to be terrified of it.
- 30:01It's the worst thing in the world that it is the worst
- 30:05possible outcome. And I took birth control for I
- 30:10think it was around 11:50 years. It was a long time.
- 30:13I was on different forms of birth control, so I know for
- 30:18myself when I came off of it, I was like, oh man, I got some
- 30:22work to do, right? And what I would say here is
- 30:26like why I got into this work was because I was so
- 30:30disconnected. I was so disconnected from my
- 30:33body. And so much of this work is I
- 30:37had to rewire a lot of my brain around a period is good.
- 30:42I got to the point where when my period came, I celebrated.
- 30:46It was an exciting thing. It meant my body was cursing and
- 30:49working. I worked with my body to make
- 30:53sure that I didn't have any PMS symptoms.
- 30:56And there's ways you can do that.
- 30:58There's ways that you can bring your body back to balance by
- 31:01nourishing yourself by, you know, it could be from the food
- 31:05you eat. It could also be a the type of
- 31:07exercises you're doing throughout the month.
- 31:11One of the biggest things I learned was that our body
- 31:15functions on a 28 day cycle, give or take.
- 31:18Some women are a little bit more, some women are a little
- 31:20bit less. But 28 days where our hormones
- 31:24are going up and down, up and down, our one day to the next is
- 31:29never the same. And once you understand that, it
- 31:34makes a huge difference. Men work off a 24 hour clock.
- 31:38Their hormones reset the moment they wake up the next morning,
- 31:41which is really cool for them. Which is awesome, but not
- 31:45awesome for us because we can't operate the same way they do, so
- 31:49our energy levels fluctuate throughout the month.
- 31:53Our. Movement should fluctuate
- 31:57throughout the month, and even the types of foods we're eating
- 32:00should also fluctuate. Now, if you also want to add in
- 32:05the point of trying to get pregnant, you also want to make
- 32:08sure you're nourishing yourself so you could actually support
- 32:12this incredible gift and miracle of having a baby, right?
- 32:18And I'll never forget a woman sent me a message and she said
- 32:24to me, Alex, like, I don't understand.
- 32:26We never focused on any of this 10:15 20-30 years ago, maybe 50
- 32:32years, 100 years ago. And I loved her like very raw,
- 32:37like question because it is very true and our ancestors never
- 32:44focused on this in a deep way. But my what I shared with her is
- 32:481. Our food quality is completely
- 32:50different. There have never been so many
- 32:53chemicals or imbalances that can affect our hormones.
- 32:58They didn't have those back then.
- 33:00Our stress levels are at the highest that they ever can be
- 33:04and our productivity is at the highest that it's ever been.
- 33:09Women also, and I, I'm going to say this very gently, women also
- 33:15didn't work in the way that we do now.
- 33:19Right, right. What did women change?
- 33:21They stayed at home. They were with their family, you
- 33:24know, maybe they were taking care of siblings.
- 33:26Everything has completely changed.
- 33:27And I love progression. I'm so grateful I get to work
- 33:30and I get to do the things I want to.
- 33:32But I also think there's a pendulum that needs to swing
- 33:36back where we are coming back to the version of a woman that is
- 33:40able to support herself, able to support her home loans and take
- 33:44care of herself. And so there's this little bit
- 33:47of a learning, what is that version of you?
- 33:49And some women can go a little bit harder.
- 33:51Some women need to come up, come back a little bit.
- 33:54And maybe there's different times where you can push a
- 33:56little more and then come back a little bit more.
- 33:59But again, that's going to happen with understanding and
- 34:02learning about yourself and your body.
- 34:06Yeah, thank you so much for this.
- 34:08I've had this similar conversations with Valencian San
- 34:11Lui, who's my Co founder and she works, she's a cycles coach and
- 34:16also with Isabella Foer who is like, you can have pain free
- 34:19periods and they they talk about this very thing, this cycles
- 34:22piece. And I think what we've learning
- 34:24with that is if we can, if we can live our lives and honor our
- 34:29cycle. And this week I'm more creative,
- 34:32this week, more energy to be more projective.
- 34:34And we can quit trying to go up in space.
- 34:39A man wouldn't honor ourselves and show up in the workspace
- 34:42like a woman would. And that's just as good.
- 34:45It's just looks different. Different doesn't mean bad.
- 34:48Different doesn't not getting the done.
- 34:53But you know, when you're rested, you're giving from your
- 34:56rested authentic field. You can get twice as much done
- 35:01and have you're refreshed and focused and be able to channel
- 35:07your your sizes. OK creative which is my really
- 35:13go get it. We and really.
- 35:17And so if you end of the month compare your results to a man's
- 35:22results and doing the same. If you're honoring that way I I
- 35:25they're going to be the same. It's just going to look
- 35:27different. And so also getting society
- 35:29like, no, no, we need to be allowed to show up and work in a
- 35:33way. And I promise you everyone will
- 35:36benefit if we're allowed to do swing that narrative in a way
- 35:39that we are allowed to honor. And I think of us can show up on
- 35:45a politics honoring ourselves in this way.
- 35:47Slowly we can shape the narrative along with us.
- 35:53Yeah, absolutely. I I completely agree.
- 35:56And I also think too, it's like adding in the piece around women
- 36:03wanting to add life, right? And I don't know how much of
- 36:06your audience is even at that stage, but when I think about
- 36:11that is, you know, women more than anything need to be really,
- 36:18really safe and not stressed, not overwhelmed, you know, very
- 36:24present for themselves in those moments.
- 36:28You know, and this is when you hear a lot of women have really,
- 36:33really tough time either one, getting pregnant or two,
- 36:37sustaining pregnancy, right? And a lot of the time is because
- 36:43we're so out of balance and there's a lot that goes into it.
- 36:47And obviously there's a myriad of of things that can go wrong
- 36:50even from our partners and their health and how they are showing
- 36:54up in that. But I am a yeah.
- 36:58And I think that's an even bigger conversation that I'm
- 37:00sure we can. That would be a huge tangent for
- 37:03us. But more than anything, I think
- 37:06women really need to understand that, you know, if you are
- 37:11looking to get pregnant, if you want to have a baby, it is going
- 37:15to be one of the biggest changes, one of your biggest
- 37:19changes. You know, women go through three
- 37:21major ones. It's puberty, having a baby and
- 37:25then menopause. Those are the three big ones.
- 37:28And these moments I, I kind of call them like rite of passages,
- 37:33rite of passage for themselves, right?
- 37:36And these moments that happen in a woman's life, like we kind of
- 37:41just brush them under the surface like they are not a big
- 37:44deal. But in reality, they are meant
- 37:47to really shift and change everything that we have come to
- 37:51learn about ourselves as women. And so if looking to sustain a
- 37:57pregnancy and getting pregnant and staying pregnant, one of the
- 38:00biggest things I asked clients right off the bat is like, walk
- 38:05me through what your day-to-day looks like.
- 38:07How stressed are you? You know, are, are you taking
- 38:10time for yourself? Are you eating the way you
- 38:13should? And it's a lot of women come to
- 38:15me and be like, OK, give me the perfect meal plan, Alex, what is
- 38:18a perfect meal plan so I can get pregnant and stay pregnant?
- 38:21And that goes a little bit into the, the magic pill fix.
- 38:26And I, I don't believe that is the only thing that happens when
- 38:31we're talking about, you know, Women's Health in general.
- 38:35There is no magic pill fix. It is a myriad of things where
- 38:39we have to kind of put the puzzle together.
- 38:42And we're a beautiful puzzle, but every single one of us is a
- 38:45little bit different. Yeah, yeah.
- 38:50And I think you're, I'm, I'm learning and redesigning our
- 38:56expectations, relearning about what's actually true versus
- 39:00this, you know, we live, especially in Western culture
- 39:02and the fast food society, we want go and get the fix, do the
- 39:06thing and move on. And dot, it's like, OK, but what
- 39:09are we missing by just slowing down, being present in the
- 39:13moment when bodies don't do what we are demanding of them in the
- 39:17moment? We're like, oh, my body's
- 39:18failing me. I is she failing you or is she
- 39:22just sending you signals she needs to be tended to in a
- 39:25different way so that she can actually show up the way she was
- 39:29intended to. So I think it's really pulling
- 39:31ourselves out of this Western cultural narrative and meeting
- 39:36what's actually true. And that goes really nicely
- 39:39into, you know, your why and your values.
- 39:41This has become very important for you and, and and this is
- 39:46really informed for you how you show up in the world today.
- 39:50Talk to me about identifying those and how that is really
- 39:53giving you that compass. Yeah, my why of why do anything
- 40:01is like I believe women are freaking amazing and.
- 40:09I think a lot of our our magic has been dimmed down because
- 40:13we're trying to fit into a box that should never have existed.
- 40:17So. Yeah.
- 40:19My, my way that I show up and do that is through nutrition,
- 40:24through preconception, through fertility, because I think, you
- 40:27know, creating life and sustaining life is one of the
- 40:29most magical things in this world.
- 40:32I, I truly believe it and I think my, my journey of
- 40:37supporting people has always been in that way, but it always
- 40:42comes down to I always wanted to learn more about myself.
- 40:46And that may sound a little odd of why, why that value is
- 40:53something so personal. But every time I speak to a new
- 40:58person, every time I work with a new person, I actually learned
- 41:01so much about myself. And I truly take this as a gift
- 41:08of every time I speak to someone as much as I'm supporting
- 41:11someone else, I'm actually getting that back too.
- 41:15So it's a little bit of a selfish pursuit as well.
- 41:18But I also coming back to the conversation we had at the very
- 41:22beginning, I actually believe self-care and you know, learning
- 41:27about yourself is one of the most selfless things you can do.
- 41:30Because that is my mission here is to show women that they are
- 41:35magic, that they have this incredible ability to influence
- 41:41the world in the most powerful way in their own version.
- 41:46And it doesn't have to look like making a huge impact.
- 41:49It could literally be talking to someone on the side of the road.
- 41:52It could literally be raising a super grounded, powerful child
- 41:58into this world that actually can make a huge difference,
- 42:01right? So for me it was always like,
- 42:05how can I become the best version of myself so I could
- 42:09also then show up for others? I love that.
- 42:14Thank you so much. That's so good.
- 42:16And that goes nicely into you have very much leaned into and
- 42:21learned how to live out of your own expectations versus others.
- 42:24We've been talking about throughout all of these societal
- 42:27norms and expectations and boxes that should never have existed
- 42:32that we start hearing about when we're very young and and and we
- 42:38realize at some point, most, not always, some people continue to
- 42:42live in that comfort and never really get in touch with
- 42:45themselves. And I think comfort not in a not
- 42:49in a like a restful way, you know, like they're afraid to
- 42:51make a change way or they're afraid to shake up things
- 42:54because it doesn't feel Safeway. And So what would happen if we
- 42:58just were allowed to be and, and, and we were just asked what
- 43:03feels safe to you? What feels honoring to you?
- 43:06But that's not what happens. And so we end up getting to a
- 43:09point in life where we kind of have to unpack and figure out,
- 43:12wait a minute, this is not serving me.
- 43:16So how what will serve me? And I think that the why and the
- 43:19values play a really key role in helping you define that.
- 43:24And we'll talk about layers in a minute and getting acknowledging
- 43:27those and surfing through those really help you get to that
- 43:29point where like, wait a minute, I, I think I know what my
- 43:34expectations are now. And that's going to help inform
- 43:37where I set my healthy boundaries, making sure I make
- 43:40time for that care that I know I need so I can live authentically
- 43:44as me and not all these other expectations that everyone else
- 43:49has told me about. Yeah, I think so.
- 43:56I love everything that you've said, right?
- 43:57I think coming back to being and changed and all of that is
- 44:02really seen. Everyone wants it, but no one.
- 44:05Sometimes a lot of people don't actually pursue it, right?
- 44:10And I've had a very unique experience at a young age.
- 44:14So as I said, dad got sick at 17 and I was faced with mortality
- 44:20in a very different way, right? And for someone that's
- 44:26listening, that hasn't had that happen, you don't need to have
- 44:29that happen to really have your world kind of shaken up.
- 44:32I actually hope it doesn't, personally.
- 44:34Like I really don't, but for me at that age, I and it took years
- 44:41to kind of unpack this for myself through realizing like
- 44:46the questions I used to ask myself, is this all life has to
- 44:49offer? Like is this it?
- 44:51And I remember it was so uncomfortable asking those
- 44:54questions were so uncomfortable. And I'll never forget the moment
- 45:00I kind of leaned into that discomfort.
- 45:03No one likes to be uncomfortable.
- 45:05Humans we, we love comfort. And comfort is something we
- 45:08know, right? We really do.
- 45:11And I will be the first one to admit I like being comfortable.
- 45:15But usually when those discomfort questions kind of
- 45:20come up, usually when I'm quiet or I have time to myself, when
- 45:24I'm not keeping myself really busy.
- 45:26But the discomfort is when the growth really happens.
- 45:31And that's one of my personal core values is, is growth.
- 45:36And one of my biggest fears in life is that I do not grow and I
- 45:42do not evolve and I do not change.
- 45:44And I, I attribute a little bit of that to my dad getting sick
- 45:49that he got young, he got sick at a young age and he even
- 45:52passed away at a young age. But I never wanted to look back
- 45:55on my life and say, is this it Is this all I did with my life?
- 46:01And I believe it is a little bit of an Eastern philosophy, I
- 46:08believe, where, you know, coming to terms with mortality.
- 46:13Again, a thing we don't like to talk about as humans is death.
- 46:17But as the joke goes, the two things that are inevitable are
- 46:22death and taxes, right? So, yeah, absolutely.
- 46:27I, I like to think about it sometimes and not in a place
- 46:31where like, Oh my God, I want to, I want to take my own life.
- 46:34It's not that. It's like, how can I actually
- 46:36live? How can I actually show up today
- 46:39in a version of myself that is allowing me to really expand and
- 46:44evolve and grow? Because that's what's going to
- 46:48make the impact. That's what's going to show up
- 46:50as magic when you are taking the risk, when you are taking the
- 46:54chance and your risk and my risk and my change and challenge,
- 46:59they're going to look completely different.
- 47:01For me, it was moving across the world, living by myself and
- 47:04figuring it all out right for you, like you trying a new food
- 47:08right like it doesn't have to be let's blow up our lives and see
- 47:12what happens kind of conversation it's.
- 47:15Whatever's. Causing you a little bit of
- 47:17discomfort is it? Setting that uncomfortable
- 47:20boundary with someone or having that difficult conversation is
- 47:25it, you know, trying something new, Maybe there's a sport that
- 47:29you want to try or an activity that you're nervous to do,
- 47:33right? These are the pieces where the
- 47:36more we lean into it and they can be really small.
- 47:39They don't have to be big. The more you do that, it becomes
- 47:42like a muscle. And then you become more
- 47:46unapologetic. You become this person that
- 47:49you're like, wow, like I do that.
- 47:52I am that person that does tries new things or evolves or
- 47:56changes. And I think I've noticed this
- 48:00for me personally. And I've had conversations with,
- 48:03you know, some of my, my elders, they say, like, it's really easy
- 48:08to get stuck in a routine of life.
- 48:10And it's really easy to not change.
- 48:14It's really easy to do what you've always done.
- 48:17And those patterns become more and more solidified.
- 48:20And I think more than anything, if you're able to kind of push
- 48:24yourself out of your comfort zone every once in a while, that
- 48:28that shakes things up a little bit.
- 48:30And it keeps you really humble and as you said,
- 48:33unapologetically living yourself in your version of yourself.
- 48:39Yeah. Oh, so good, So good.
- 48:42Thank you so, so much for that. And I think, you know, when we
- 48:46have someone close to us that gets sick at in an early age and
- 48:51they know, you know, that there's, you know, there's no
- 48:54cure. There's no way out of this.
- 48:55It all of a sudden makes you take a stock in your life.
- 48:59And I, I, and I wish there was a way we all could.
- 49:02You hear all the time people get you've got X amount of time to
- 49:05live. You know, I've seen this happen
- 49:08with a classmate of mine I went to high school with.
- 49:11I haven't seen him in years, but he was diagnosed with ALS in the
- 49:14last six months. And this and, and friends of
- 49:17that, people that I grew up with are doing this amazing thing
- 49:20with him this summer where they're just doing all the
- 49:22things they've always wanted to do and it's all over.
- 49:25I mean, they were in Italy, they were in Mexico.
- 49:28I mean, the last three months they've been in Italy, Mexico,
- 49:30they were at some kind of a race car things some kind of all over
- 49:36the world. And it's beautiful to see them
- 49:39come together and do that. What if we didn't wait till we,
- 49:43what if we live that way all the time?
- 49:45What if we didn't wait till us or someone close to us had that
- 49:50diagnosis? And we could kind of have in our
- 49:52heads continue to be curious because curiosity and comfort
- 49:57can't coexist together. Curiosity will continue to keep
- 50:01you out of like settling into this comfort area.
- 50:05And you know, so thank you for sharing that.
- 50:07But I really, I and I have to challenge myself this.
- 50:10But it would be a really, I think it's so good for humanity
- 50:13if we could move from this place of not having to have the scary
- 50:17thing happen to us before we started living our lives.
- 50:20I think the way they were meant to be lived in the 1st place.
- 50:24So yeah, thank you so much for all of that.
- 50:28And this goes nicely into embracing are layers, all the
- 50:33pieces and parts of our story, all of the things that happened
- 50:37that we love, that we don't love, that we have shame around,
- 50:40fear around getting to that space.
- 50:42And when I'm working with women one-on-one or in groups, I
- 50:45actually start with this one. I'm like, we're going to start
- 50:48with the layers journey because it's getting comfortable with
- 50:53those, allowing all of them to breathe, uncovering the ones
- 50:56you've been stuffing, facing the fears and the shame that have
- 51:00kept them hidden or just the I want to move on and forget about
- 51:04that peace. Allowing them to breathe,
- 51:07allowing them to be processed and move through and approaching
- 51:10them with curiosity rather than judgment.
- 51:14And then we can do that. Your value, you know what you're
- 51:18made of. You know what, you're then more
- 51:20likely to prioritize yourself because we prioritize what we
- 51:25value. But layers are tricky.
- 51:27Like I said, we don't love them all, but getting to that place
- 51:31and it seems, seems to me and the way you were living, you've
- 51:33really gotten to that place of being able to to really, you
- 51:37know, embrace them and be curious about them and not be,
- 51:42you know, trying to shove and get rid of the different ones
- 51:44that are hard. Because, you know, you know,
- 51:46like I said, no one wants to have a layer in their life where
- 51:49their dad's diagnosed when they're 17 with a fatal disease,
- 51:52knowing they're, you know, not going to make it as long as you
- 51:56would hope they would. But that but it's still a part
- 51:58of your life that you have to come to some kind of grips with.
- 52:01That's just one example of a layer.
- 52:03So talk to me about your layers journey and how you've gotten to
- 52:07where you are today with it. Yeah, this is a great 1 and I
- 52:12love that you you cover this. This is so important, starting
- 52:17with my dad's lair of him getting sick at 17.
- 52:20I actually, it was 1. I had a lot of shame around.
- 52:25I was no longer the perfect family.
- 52:27I up until that point, I thought I had the perfect family.
- 52:30I was very blessed and I was very lucky to have been born
- 52:35into this family. My, my family is incredible.
- 52:38And you know, we used to travel around.
- 52:40My dad and I were really close. I was in sport, like all of
- 52:43these things were incredible and I no longer had the perfect
- 52:47family. You know something, my dad was
- 52:50not well anymore. So I, I actually hid it for
- 52:53many, many years. A lot of people, especially the
- 52:56closest people to me, my friends at the time did not know my dad
- 53:00was sick. And it took a lot of work for me
- 53:05to realize that Shane loves living in the in the shadows,
- 53:11right? And I, I know you probably do
- 53:13this work with people that you work with, but Shane loves
- 53:17living in the shadows. And I think what allowed me to
- 53:23look at these different layers and to be able to identify them
- 53:27is I, I actually worked with a coach for many, many years.
- 53:32I've also, I, I joke, I say I have a team of people behind me
- 53:36because I, I believe we all need people in our corner.
- 53:41We really do. So over the years, I've worked
- 53:43with different coaches to support me through this and I
- 53:48have a therapist that I work with as well.
- 53:51But more than anything, I started to learn that the more
- 53:57you hide these pieces of you, the shame loves.
- 54:01That. Right.
- 54:02Shane loves to hide. Shane loves to have you be alone
- 54:08and have you be sitting in the in excuse my language, but
- 54:12sitting in the shit. It likes that it thrives off of
- 54:16that it it's like that's the the food for it.
- 54:19And yeah, the more I realized was that we we all really want
- 54:27the same thing. We all want to be loved and
- 54:30accepted and cared for. At the end of the day, that's
- 54:35all we all really want. And the fear, and we talk about
- 54:41this, the fear of being found out is sometimes worse than the
- 54:45thing that actually is the layer right?
- 54:49And so. Yeah, yeah.
- 54:53That's the piece that I think I realized and learnt more about
- 54:57the layers rather than, OK, looking at all my layers, I have
- 55:01a lot of layers. Like even talking about eating
- 55:03disorders and all of that. And even now, if you were to ask
- 55:06me like, are you the perfect nutrition coach?
- 55:09And I was like, no, I'm not. You know, I, I enjoy pizza more
- 55:13than anybody. Heck, like I enjoy the heck out
- 55:15of it, right? But I think more than anything,
- 55:19it's recognizing that there's the fear and the shame.
- 55:23Those are the driving forces behind those layers.
- 55:26And when you're able to just be OK with it being really
- 55:31uncomfortable and having someone that you really trust that you
- 55:36can share it with that will not judge you, that will say I see
- 55:40you and not try to relate to you in any way.
- 55:44I think that was the biggest if that happened for me in
- 55:48addressing those layers is having a safe space and having
- 55:52someone say I see you and I still think you're incredible.
- 55:56Right. And.
- 55:58Yeah. Humans have this beautiful way
- 56:03about them where they tried to relate to everything, right?
- 56:07It's such a beautiful quality about humans.
- 56:10And sometimes relating is is really difficult for people that
- 56:15are dealing with shame or dealing with a layer that
- 56:18they're very uncomfortable with. And this is something I had to
- 56:23really learn early on before sharing with somebody, you know,
- 56:28especially I noticed it more so when I started with my dad,
- 56:31because that was my biggest one at that time.
- 56:34I had to almost tell people what I needed in those moments of
- 56:40when I was sharing, right? I, I would really say like, Hey,
- 56:43I actually don't need you to say anything.
- 56:45I just really want to tell you something, right?
- 56:47And sometimes it's understanding that having people in your
- 56:55corner that love you regardless of what's happening and having
- 56:59them just listen is one of the most powerful things.
- 57:04Yeah, thank you for that. I think that's so important.
- 57:07And I can tell you I am as guilty as anybody of wanting to
- 57:11come in and fix and help. And my daughters have really
- 57:14learned with me to say I don't need you to fix this.
- 57:18I I'm just looking for you to listen today.
- 57:20I just need to let this out. I just need to let it breathe.
- 57:24And so they will say to me, and then I'm like, OK, I heard you
- 57:26got it. And then we know because I
- 57:29sometimes you just want to be seen and heard.
- 57:31You don't want to hear about the similar experience or the story.
- 57:35You just want to be present in the moment and allow it to
- 57:38breathe. I think that's so important.
- 57:39And that can come in so many different forms.
- 57:43I also want to go back to real quick, you brought up a piece
- 57:46that I think is still something we're learning how to talk
- 57:49about. And it's very common with women
- 57:52and it's very common with women athletes.
- 57:55And that's the eating disorders piece.
- 57:57Is there anything you want to say about that layer to women
- 58:01that are listening before we before we move on?
- 58:06Yeah, it's twofold, right? I think women athletes is.
- 58:15I don't know about you, but for me there was a point of I can
- 58:19eat whatever I want because I, I, I was really active today or
- 58:24I just need fuel or anything like that, right.
- 58:26So there's that one version of that which could have been at
- 58:30the beginning of an eating disorder back then.
- 58:34Yeah. I also think too, there's also
- 58:37an obsession of performance and I think even noticing and I
- 58:41don't know how involved your world is around this.
- 58:43My because I'm so involved in nutrition, all I see is
- 58:46nutrition stuff, right? And there's also such a drive in
- 58:50eating the right way, eating super clean, having all the best
- 58:54foods and all of that. That can also be considered an
- 58:56eating disorder where it's an obsession of having things a
- 59:00certain way, right? So I would say more than
- 59:04anything as as an athlete and eating disorders, I didn't
- 59:10realize I had one until I gained a bunch of weight.
- 59:14I gained, it was 30 lbs in a very short period of time.
- 59:17And on my frame, my like, it was very, very distinct that I had
- 59:23gained the weight. And for me, it was more so an
- 59:26aesthetic thing. Like I couldn't believe what I
- 59:28looked like in the mirror from being a super, an elite athlete
- 59:32where I had 6 packs and I didn't even have to think about it to
- 59:35all of a sudden I was like, what the heck happened, right?
- 59:39So I think there is a little bit of a misconstrued feeling where
- 59:43it's like people believe that eating disorders are only when
- 59:48you're throwing up or you're not eating.
- 59:51And the reality is not that. The reality is anything that has
- 59:56your mind believing you have to do something a certain way
- 59:59otherwise a negative result is going to happen.
- 1:00:03That to me. Is really what an eating
- 1:00:06disorder is and I'm not a clinical person, please don't
- 1:00:09take this as that, but my own version of going through it is
- 1:00:13that I think I had an eating disorder well before I even
- 1:00:17recognized I had one. And our society really pushes a
- 1:00:22certain aesthetic of the body, which forces women to believe
- 1:00:27that their body is not good enough, right?
- 1:00:30And So what I would kind of touching on that and that layer
- 1:00:35is that it's really easy to believe that you are not good
- 1:00:42enough. Your body's not good enough.
- 1:00:43And there's nothing wrong with having goals.
- 1:00:47There's nothing wrong to say I want to work towards something
- 1:00:51or eating a little bit healthier.
- 1:00:53But I think it's when it becomes an obsession or a restriction or
- 1:00:58anything where you're forcing yourself and it becomes a
- 1:01:03negative part of your day is when it can get into that
- 1:01:06territory that we need to be a little bit more mindful of,
- 1:01:09yeah. Thank you so much for that.
- 1:01:11You explained that so well and how you described it is very
- 1:01:15much how I experienced it. It wasn't the IT what I was put
- 1:01:20on a 4000 calorie diet when I was a freshman running cross
- 1:01:23country and track because I wasn't getting up calories.
- 1:01:26And that was the beginning of and then there was this, you
- 1:01:30know, my dad telling me my sophomore year of high school,
- 1:01:33your butt's getting too big. So it's like, oh, you know, it,
- 1:01:35it became this. So my relationship with food
- 1:01:38became very unhealthy. It so there's so many layers and
- 1:01:44peace that go into that conversation.
- 1:01:46So I, I'm thank you for going. It's like we need to be very
- 1:01:50aware that when we're looking at our relationship with food that
- 1:01:55we're looking at like, OK, I'm feeling myself.
- 1:01:58What's my why behind this? Is this coming from a healthy
- 1:02:01place or do I need to get curious about this and explore a
- 1:02:04little more? So thank you so much for that.
- 1:02:06I appreciate your your vulnerability and honesty and
- 1:02:09sharing that all right in living out feel, finding empowerment,
- 1:02:14embracing layers, which is what we've been talking about today.
- 1:02:18Talk to me about how going on this journey has impacted your
- 1:02:22relationship with yourself as well as your relationship with
- 1:02:26other people. And going on this journey is
- 1:02:34been one of the most powerful things for me.
- 1:02:36My life has I truly believe if I hadn't gone on this journey, my
- 1:02:41life would not be where it is today.
- 1:02:43I truly believe that my my trajectory of my life would be
- 1:02:51completely different. I could see it me being stuck in
- 1:02:54a corporate job day in and day out.
- 1:02:57I can't imagine myself being super happy.
- 1:03:01And obviously this is a little bit of a crystal ball
- 1:03:03conversation, but I absolutely, I truly believe that I have been
- 1:03:11literally guided to be in this version of myself.
- 1:03:15I have had these these moments in my life where it's challenged
- 1:03:20me to look at what am I doing and who I am.
- 1:03:24And the more I have these things happen, I kind of, it's become a
- 1:03:31little comical, right? I can tell you that I've, I had
- 1:03:34a plan for my life, you know, even the last, you know, a
- 1:03:38little bit more of what's been happening over the last year or
- 1:03:40so. But it's, it's kind of comical
- 1:03:44because I had this plan for my life of what I thought my life
- 1:03:47would look like. First it started with being a
- 1:03:49professional athlete. Then I thought I was going to be
- 1:03:53a housewife to a professional athlete.
- 1:03:56And then it became like, no, I'm going to be the head of the
- 1:03:58corporate ladder. Then I was like, no, I'm going
- 1:04:01to be a digital nomad, traveling the world, like doing all that
- 1:04:04things. And you know, I didn't think I
- 1:04:07was ever going to be a mom. Now I can see myself being a
- 1:04:10mom. Like life is a very interesting
- 1:04:12way and these versions of what I believed my life to be, it's
- 1:04:19made a very humbling experience where I can say that now I'm
- 1:04:25just on this journey of how can I connect deeper to myself?
- 1:04:29Because then I can connect deeper to others and I have I
- 1:04:35can honestly share with you like my journey of connecting deeper
- 1:04:39to myself as a woman first and foremost has allowed me to
- 1:04:43actually connect deeper with other women.
- 1:04:45I, I don't know if this is true for you, but for me, because of
- 1:04:51a competitive nature and I also think because of the eating
- 1:04:56disorder I worked through, made me very competitive with other
- 1:04:59women and made me almost shut down that version of myself
- 1:05:05where I wanted to connect. And women are intrinsically
- 1:05:07meant to connect. We are meant to connect with
- 1:05:10each other and share and be in community.
- 1:05:14It's a very natural thing. If you look at generations and
- 1:05:17you know, our ancestors, that's how women were.
- 1:05:20And I believe in today's day and age, it's very much woman
- 1:05:24against woman and OK, let's be a little fake nice and see what we
- 1:05:29can like, how do we level up with them?
- 1:05:31It's very much how I grew up and how my mindset was around women.
- 1:05:36So I would say one of the biggest shifts, and this is
- 1:05:39again, not perfect, my competitive side still comes out
- 1:05:42every once in a while. But I think that was the biggest
- 1:05:47shift is realizing that women do not need to be in competition
- 1:05:52and that the deeper I connect to myself, the more work I do in
- 1:05:56myself. You know, coming from this place
- 1:05:58of empowerment, I can sit here and say I genuinely want you or
- 1:06:04any other woman that sits in front of me to succeed.
- 1:06:08It doesn't mean that I'm any less or I have to put myself
- 1:06:12down or you're better or anything like that.
- 1:06:15No, we're just different. Your journey is different than
- 1:06:18mine. My journey is different than the
- 1:06:20next person, but more than anything, it's really stepping
- 1:06:25into we all have a place. We all have the ability to step
- 1:06:29into this table and succeed and win and support each other.
- 1:06:33And I love that version of women that are able to say we all get
- 1:06:39to win. Yeah.
- 1:06:42Oh, that was so good. I love that so much.
- 1:06:44To me, that is the key. That is the key to us shifting
- 1:06:48the narratives that have been in place.
- 1:06:52You know, whether it's in the workplace, whether it's
- 1:06:54culturally faith spaces, you know, socio economic, all those
- 1:06:59things. It's us coming together.
- 1:07:01When I win, it creates more space for you to win and lifting
- 1:07:06each other up in the end. Plus, I'm as competitive as the
- 1:07:08next person. I always want to win, but I
- 1:07:11don't have to knock everybody else down along the way.
- 1:07:14I can break. I like, OK, I won.
- 1:07:16I found this new space. Come with me.
- 1:07:18Let's go and create more space for all of us to win at the
- 1:07:22things that we are aligned to do because no one is exactly like
- 1:07:27us in the world. We're all designed uniquely to
- 1:07:30show up as our authentic selves and let's celebrate that in
- 1:07:34trying to diminish that and knock it down.
- 1:07:36I love that so much. Thank you so much for all of
- 1:07:38that. So good.
- 1:07:39Oh my gosh. OK, tell me 5 activities that
- 1:07:44nourish you. I mean, these probably don't
- 1:07:48surprise you by any means. I love cooking.
- 1:07:53I, I love it. I am a huge sucker for a good
- 1:07:58farmers market walking through a market.
- 1:08:01So anywhere I travel, it's my mission in life to find the
- 1:08:05market. Like that local market, you know
- 1:08:07the secret one that tourists don't ever find that all the
- 1:08:11locals get all the good stuff. That's my mission in life is to
- 1:08:15find those markets. And usually like, I love cooking
- 1:08:18whatever fresh, amazing foods that I can find.
- 1:08:22So that's a huge thing that I love doing.
- 1:08:25Travel is another big one, being out in nature.
- 1:08:29So whether it is the mountains or the beach.
- 1:08:32And I would say I think that's four.
- 1:08:35I have another two. I love being around people, like
- 1:08:39my people. And that sounds very odd, but
- 1:08:42people that are very important to me in my life, they've tend
- 1:08:46to be spread out across the world because I've travelled so
- 1:08:49much and I don't always get to connect with them in person
- 1:08:53one-on-one. But when I get that time, that
- 1:08:57nourishes my soul, like absolutely just brings me back
- 1:09:00to life. And I would say the last one, I
- 1:09:07don't know why I thought of this, but dogs, I, I love dogs
- 1:09:10more than anything. And when I get to play with
- 1:09:13dogs, they just light up my soul and I love how goofy they are.
- 1:09:19And I think that's something that really brings me back to
- 1:09:22myself, not taking my life so seriously.
- 1:09:26They teach you how to be present.
- 1:09:28They teach you unconditional love.
- 1:09:30Like there's so many incredible things.
- 1:09:33My version is dogs. I know other people have other
- 1:09:36animals that they can connect with, but I am reminded when I
- 1:09:42have a busy day or I have a hard day.
- 1:09:44You know, my dogs have always been there for me.
- 1:09:47And that just completely brings me back to life as well.
- 1:09:54Yeah, oh, so good. I love that.
- 1:09:56Yeah. I like the playfulness of them
- 1:09:58too. It reminds us to play and be
- 1:10:00present too. I know that's an you know,
- 1:10:01that's another great impact for me and my husband.
- 1:10:04No one loves a dog more than my husband.
- 1:10:06He is everybody's alpha dog anywhere we are.
- 1:10:09So it's fun to hear other people talk about their experience with
- 1:10:12that. 5 words on how you want to feel the next six months.
- 1:10:21So OK, the next six months for me, it is grounded, at peace,
- 1:10:31glowy. I think there's a big, big piece
- 1:10:36of expansion that Will I'm excited for.
- 1:10:41And I want to bring in more calmness as well because there's
- 1:10:46a lot of change happening, but calmness feels really good.
- 1:10:52Oh, and I'll throw in it the sixth one.
- 1:10:54Trust. A little bit of trust.
- 1:10:57Oh, good. Oh, I love that.
- 1:10:59That's good. That's a great one.
- 1:11:00All right. Oh my gosh, Alexandra, I could
- 1:11:02talk to you all day. So many good things.
- 1:11:04What you do and how you show up in the world is just so In Sync
- 1:11:08with these things that we talked about here on this platform.
- 1:11:11Tell people where they can find you, follow you, learn more
- 1:11:15about you, all of that. This will also be on our website
- 1:11:18at embracinglayers.com. Don't worry listeners, you'll be
- 1:11:20able to find it. But I want to give you a moment
- 1:11:22to share that. Awesome.
- 1:11:24Thank you. Yeah, I'm primarily on
- 1:11:25Instagram, so it's I am Alexander Birch.
- 1:11:30I also have a website that you can do.
- 1:11:32I have a weekly newsletter that goes out as well where I talk
- 1:11:35about things around fertility and preconception and support
- 1:11:40around that. So if anything start with
- 1:11:43Instagram. It's always the kind of the hub
- 1:11:45for everything and I'm going to be back on there.
- 1:11:51OK, great. Any last thoughts you would like
- 1:11:54to leave with our listeners today?
- 1:11:57I'm just so grateful for you and I'm grateful that you open up
- 1:12:02these conversations that are so necessary and you have such an
- 1:12:06inability and a beauty to pull out these beautiful, powerful
- 1:12:10themes. And I, I truly believe that your
- 1:12:15work is so needed and so powerful.
- 1:12:17So thank you for doing that. And my last words for people
- 1:12:22just listening is that you are powerful, you are beautiful, you
- 1:12:27are perfect the way you are. And just continuing to connect
- 1:12:32deeper with yourself more and more as you can because that is
- 1:12:35going to really open up so much for you.
- 1:12:38And I I truly believe that you have a place in this world.
- 1:12:42More than anything, it's just allowing yourself to to really
- 1:12:46shine. Thank you so much for that.
- 1:12:51Listeners, take that, run with that.
- 1:12:53Let that absorb and sink in with you.
- 1:12:56Alexandra, thanks so much for your time.
- 1:12:58I'm so glad we were able to connect.
- 1:13:00I appreciate you so much. Listeners, take all this, go
- 1:13:03back and listen. There's lots of wisdom in
- 1:13:05today's episode. We hope you've enjoyed this time
- 1:13:08with us today. Take good care of yourselves and
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