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Why Are You Still Failing in Sales? (It's Not Your Fault) · Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint

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Today on the podcast, we're going to look at the today's
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going to be the Part 2, basically where we're going to
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look at the proper perspective to have because sales and
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selling is hard. If this is your first time
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listening to the podcast. The reason why we're on the Part
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2 today is because in the previous podcast episode, I was
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talking about a conversation that I had with a former student
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of mine who skipped a couple of classes.
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You know, we hooked up, we started talking and the reason
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why she skipped out on some of the classes basically was
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because she was trying to apply some of the things that we spoke
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about in our sessions and she found out that selling is hard.
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And so because of that, she was discouraged.
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So the previous podcast episode was the first part where we
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looked at the proper perspectives to have so that we
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can deal without reality. Because actually she is correct
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that sales, selling is hard. There's no business function
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that is easy. I'm just saying that there's a
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certain emotional tool or a personal tool that comes from
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selling that doesn't come from other thing other things.
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If you're in the branding department, in fact, in my own
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opinion, if you're in the branding department, man, life
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is easy for you. I swear, because you just sit
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down and design something. As long as you can justify your
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ideas to the orga, that's it. You're OK.
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If you're in marketing easy as long as you can say that we did
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this campaign, you think of 50,000 likes the million reach
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something something, something easy.
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But in sales to go outside and then try and sell you now reach
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your quota, then your sales manager will descend on you.
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Then in the monthly meeting, the organ will now be washing
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everybody down and then be abusing people again.
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Those of you that are responsible for selling, selling
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is hard. There's no part of business that
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is easy, but selling has a uniquely hard tinge to it.
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So in the previous podcast episode, I wanted to make sure
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that I set the right expectations so that those of
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you who are listening to the podcast would assume that
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because you know, I come here, I smile, you know, we chat, I talk
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about relationships, I talk about all kinds of things.
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You just assume that selling is going to be easy.
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I want to set up the right expectation that selling is hard
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now. Plus another reason why I wanted
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to do that is because one of my clients is looking to hire some
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people and I'm organizing a series of trainings that is
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going to start on the 12th of January in 2026.
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And people who pass through that training, especially people who
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don't mind work, looking for a sales role.
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I intend to take some people from that class and present them
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to my clients to say these are people who are passed through my
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program and I have vetted and I think they're going to make
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perfect candidates for what it is that you do.
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So the last broadcast episode was also to let you guys know
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now for those of you who are interested in taking part in
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this training, it's a paid training which is going to start
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on the 12th of January 2026. Or did you guys to have the
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right perspectives? So if you're a business owner,
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because already some business owners have already reached out
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to me, Joshua, thank you very much for reaching out and
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signifying that you're interested.
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You know, we're currently chatting already.
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So for business owners that have reached out, I want you people
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to know that this thing will be hard because it is going to be
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hard going to be hard. The proper perspective is we are
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trying to change our behavior small so that we can do some
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things consistently over time so that we can see results.
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Apart from that, part of the reasons why we fail in
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implementation is because we use wrong technique or we're using
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proper technique but we haven't tried enough reps, we haven't
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tried enough attempts. So these are the things that are
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going to be required for you to be successful in your business.
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So for those of you who reach out for the January 12th
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training 2026, please, this will not be child's play.
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You have to be disciplined, you have to be focused, you have to
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be ready to put in the work because I am not your guru, I am
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not your Messiah. There is no magic I will
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pronounce over your life that will cause your business to
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grow. None, there is none except those
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people who do jazz in you know Lagos.
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Those ones they can pronounce over your life.
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But just know that it comes at a cost.
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So don't go to those places. You will have to do the work.
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And if you're interested in the training, January 12th, 2026,
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remember, it's a paid program. You're an employee.
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You will have to do the work. There is nothing that I will rub
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on your head that will make you successful.
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So excuse me. And there is no admonishment
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that your guy will give you that will make you successful.
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It will still bore down to you at the end of the day.
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So if you're interested, you're willing to walk down this path
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and you think you have what it takes, reach out to me just like
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Joshua. Let's have a chat, let's see if
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we can handle it and let's see what we can achieve in 20260.
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By the way, I haven't even introduced myself.
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If you're listening to the show for the first time, my name is
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Tavishima Ayede. I am the host, obviously.
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I'm a former lawyer turned business consultant.
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And if you'd love to be in touch with me just like Joshua is and
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other people who are interested in being part of the January
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12th, 2026 cohort, you can call, send me a text message or a
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WhatsApp message on the 08064662140.
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Now, even if you don't want to be a part of the program, it's
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all right. I talk to anyone.
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Just call, send me a text message, send me a WhatsApp
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message. You have questions, you have
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comments, you have queries, whatever it is, reach out even
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if you just want to say hello. In fact, those of you who reach
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out to say hello, I won't lie, you guys really brighten up my
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day. Those of you who reach out and
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say, oh boy, I've been listening for a while, you know, big UPS.
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I like your stuff, you guys. I really appreciate you guys.
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I appreciate you guys. So reach out then if you're
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interested in these sorts of things, subscribe to the podcast
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because every other day that is what we do over here on the
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podcast. We only talk about business
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problems, marketing problems, especially problems that can be
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solved by personal selling. And of course, for those of you
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who've been listening for a while, you know that personal
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selling are the techniques, the disciplines, the science, the
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art, where you are involved in a conversation with someone and
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you're trying to advance the sale, you're trying to advance
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your agenda, you're trying to build a relationship, you're
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trying to, you know, whatever it is.
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All right, so let's get back into it.
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Sales is hard. Last episode we went to do some
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of the dynamics, some of the reasons, some of the rationale
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behind why selling is hard. We started with some of the
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perspectives that you need to have, the proper perspectives
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that you need to have to deal with the fact that selling is
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hard because we cannot run away from the fact that selling is
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hard. We can't now.
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Unfortunately, my student came away with some emotional toll
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when she told me. I won't lie, I was sad.
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I was really, really sad. Really, really sad.
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I wish I could have just, you know, gone to our place, you
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know, let's sit down. Let's have no one-on-one.
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This one is not phone call conversation.
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Let me look you in the eye. You look me in the eye.
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Let's, let's hash this thing out.
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I was sad. She came away with some self
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doubt. She was feeling as if she was
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incompetent. And if you have passed through
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some of this because you're trying to grow your business,
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you know, you're studying new in the field.
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Let's say you see a catfish, I'll be you an architect.
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You trying to talk to some people, maybe talk to like 10
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people in a month and then the emotional bus boost that comes
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with it. And then people say, no,
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somebody says I'm not interested.
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Then next thing you find out that the person is using
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somebody else as the architect to design the house or to design
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the factory and you now start wondering that is in me that was
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going on. If you listen to yesterday's
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podcast episode, I want you to remember that it ain't none
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personal at all. If you haven't listened to the
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podcast episode, when you're done listening to this, listen
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to the yesterday's podcast episode so you can find out the
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real reason why sales is hard. Excuse me #1 is the statistical
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thing. And there's nothing we can do to
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change the statistics except if we start using proper technique
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and we start doing a significant number of attempts.
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So I said it in the last broadcast episode, and I'm going
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to say it again. Don't come and tell me that
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selling is hard. And then by the time you and I
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sit on and have a conversation, I find out that in December you
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only spoke to five people. Like, come on, be realistic.
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You want your business to blue and in a whole month, 20 working
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days, you only spoke to five people.
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You are not even giving yourself the chance to to to make this
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thing easier, easier on yourself.
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You'd like. I don't see the my loss of four
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words. I don't even know how to state
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it. Sufficient number of attempts,
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please. Sufficient number of attempts.
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Anyway, don't get caught up in the self doubt.
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I don't care. Don't get caught up in feeling
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incompetent. To get the right perspective, I
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want you to look at some other people who are in our sister
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disciplines. So business, you know those of
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us who are in business, we have some sister disciplines.
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One of them is the military, another one is sports, another
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one is music. So of you busy waiting
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concerning business and military, what's the connection
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between music and sports? Relax, I'm getting there and you
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will see why these are sister disciplines.
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The reason why business, military, sports, music, the
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reason why we are sister disciplines.
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There's also another one, but you know I can't say it over
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here for you know how I put it for public policy reasons I
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can't say it over here will be as if I'm endorsing some kind
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behavior. So the reason why all of us were
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sister disciplines is because these disciplines are
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performance disciplines, not knowledge disciplines.
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I repeat, there are some disciplines that are knowledge
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discipline. We know the thing.
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This one is not. We know the thing like
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accounting, that is a knowledge something.
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I know the thing. You either know it or you don't
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know. But business, military, sports,
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music, it is a performance discipline.
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It is not just what we know, but what we can do and how well we
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can do. So business is not just I know
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the thing, did I go out and get customers or not?
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I didn't get customers. My business will fail, finish
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performance discipline. The same thing with military is
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not a matter of knowing theory. Which one is battle formation?
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How do you assemble a gun? How do you cock a rifle?
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How do you do insurgency? How do you do is not just
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knowledge. I went there.
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Did I win the war or I didn't win the war?
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It's that simple. Performance, sports performance,
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discipline. It's not just a matter of do I
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know proper technique? If you ask me, I know dead, dead
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lifting, dead lifting techniques because I used to fool around
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with weights when I was in school.
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I know the technique, but if you put me on the mat and then you
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give me the weight, can I lift the weight or not?
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This one is no busy technique. Did I move that weight or did I
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did I move it or I didn't move it?
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Performance Niger people, we live football UFO cup.
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Everybody saying no ah, suppose use this kind of formation.
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You should have done like this, you should have substituted this
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guy. You should have theory.
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Everybody knows the theory by the end of the day.
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Performance. We went on the pitch, then we
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scored the goal, Abby We didn't score the goal performance.
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It's the same thing. Music.
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Everybody knows what good music sounds like, Abby.
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It sounds sweet, Abby But at the end of the day, the song did it
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Pop, Abby the song, No pop. If you're a classically trained
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musician, you know the performance that you give you.
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Wow the crowd, Abby. You know, wow, the crowd
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performance. So it looks as if not enjoying
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us, but actually business people, military people, sports
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people, music people, you know, we are, we are brother and
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sister. Well, let's say we are cousins.
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We are cousins. We are one family because we're
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in performance disciplines. We're not in knowledge
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disciplines. We're not knowledge disciplines.
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Now let us look at our brothers and sisters and let us see
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whether they think they easy for them or not.
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It will give us the right perspective that we should have
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when it comes to business because remember we are the same
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in the sense that we are a performance discipline.
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This one no be theory performance.
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Always remember that performance performance did we do Abby?
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We didn't do remember when I used to sell insurance sales
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meeting. If it comes down to breaking the
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sales technique, may I know the theory by the end of the day?
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Did I sell insurance? I be I didn't sell.
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That was a simple thing. You sell.
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I be you didn't sell. It's not, it's not about who
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knows? So let's look at business in
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general. That's some old statistics.
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Forgive me, I should have checked, but I didn't anyway.
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But people quote it all the time.
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And of course, these statistics are, of course, based in the
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West, you know, America, Western Europe, but you know, in a way
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humans are the same. So I'm assuming it's still the
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same in Nigeria as well in this part of the world.
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So there's some stats that say 60% of businesses fail within
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three years. Let me repeat, 60% of businesses
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fail within three years. And then some people say if you
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take it 15 years, then 90% of businesses fail or something
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like that. I can't remember those stats,
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but you can go check them out. Is it American?
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Is it Bureau of Statistics and be Bureau of Labor and
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Statistics or something like that?
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Anyway, some American thing, you know, just go on Google it.
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You'll find the stats. Even if I'm not correct, you see
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that it's close. So three years, 60% of
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businesses would die standard, 15 years, 99, sorry, not 9990%
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of of them who don't evaporate. And then the other part of the
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statistics is that most people will try three businesses before
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they succeed. So you guys hear that in three
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years 60% disappear, in 15 years 90% disappear.
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And then for most people you will try like two or three times
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before you hammer. Now with that in mind, can we
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see that even though selling is hard, if we look at our sisters
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in other, you know, we just step back and look at business in
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general, you know, can you see that?
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Yes, it's kind of rough. It just is what it is.
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Are we ready for the thing or why not?
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Which is why in the last podcast episode I said there are some of
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you that honestly speaking, I really think you should just
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give up this thing and just go and get your job.
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Jelly. It's not a problem.
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Instead of staying and struggling as a salesperson or
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struggling as an entrepreneur and not being able to meet your
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responsibilities. Sorry, 1 moment.
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OK, I'm back. I'm sorry about that.
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I'm making today's recording at home.
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And of course, the kids are home from break.
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It's a full house. So my older son needed to get
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something, needed my attention for something.
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So yeah. So we just ran through some
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stats together just to show you that if you look at our brothers
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and sisters, you see that, well, life is rough for them too.
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So it's just one of those things, we're either up for the
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challenge or we're not. Now let's look at sports.
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Sports is a performance thing. Now, let me give you an example.
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There's one of my classmates, BC, of course, our user surname.
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We went to school together, University of Aberdeen.
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And by the time BC's, because BC started having kids in Aberdeen,
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I mean, I didn't have kids until I came back here, they
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discovered that BC's child has some talent.
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You know, it's the way you just see some babies.
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You're like, did I just see something like be like, say this
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girl, she gets on kind talent. So of course they took her and
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tried out a couple of places and discovered that their daughter
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has serious gymnastic talent, serious, serious, serious
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gymnastic talent. And then they started training.
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Excuse me? So BC's daughter has been in
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training since like 4 years old. They don't go in Aberdeen.
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They moved to Canada and already they get on the wing competition
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here and there, you know, some small regional something.
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I was not surprised to find out that, you know, she'd only
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trained to become Olympic athletes.
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So God willing, you know, she'll make it.
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And if all goes well, one day when she's like 18-20, you see
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her on the stage and she erased the trophy.
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By the way, she's not going to raise the trophy for Nigeria.
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And those of you who are will be grumbling that we were not
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patriotic like Petrol Guinea. If they had come back home,
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where would the girls see training?
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Where would she see training to be able to develop her God-given
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talent? So me, I don't before, I don't
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be at all like, yeah, I'm here in Nigeria.
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And I believe that in Nigeria, that is where the best prospects
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are for me and a couple of other people.
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But for those of you who are in sports, huh, this was not a
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matter of patriotism. If you stay in Nigeria, where
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will you train? Who will train you on top which
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equipment? So in my own opinion, I don't
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blame those people. She should go out and hoist the
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trophy for Canada. When in Nigeria, we have an
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enabling environment, we can expect our sons and daughters to
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come back and start competing for the green, white, green for
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the Nigerian flag anyway. So when the time comes now she
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will hoist the the cop and she does how she become Olympic
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athlete for Canada. But you can see that the journey
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started from when from when she was four years old.
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When I was four years old, what I used to do was, you know, eat,
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pounded down, climb trees, what else destroy equipment in the
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house, you know, just normal life.
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But from 4, the girl has been getting into regimented
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lifestyle. Zoya, it's time to train.
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Go and warm up, go and stretch, go and do drill, Go and do this
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routine since she was four years old.
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Performance discipline. So it's no theory.
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It's the do. Excuse me.
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And she's been doing it since she was 4.
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So excuse me, I'm recovering from a cold.
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So when we see her hold the trophy at 18, at 20, the work
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started when she was 4, at four years old, I was still peeing on
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the bed. Yes, but she four years old,
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she's already in that adult life.
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Those of you who complain, you say I hate Mondays.
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What do you think her life was like?
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I hate Monday. You wake up, I say, oh God, it's
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Monday, I have to train. And apart from that she has to
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go to school because it's not as if her parents are millionaires.
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So she has to go to school as well now.
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So as you can pay for tutorial home, imagine the workload when
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that was necessary, you know, to hoist the crown of glory at the
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end of the day. Performance discipline.
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So you can see that for our brothers and sisters in sports
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is still rough for them too. Now music, yes, it's not just
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theory. Know your skills, know your
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chords, know your songwriting. No improvisation, know how to
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perform, you know. But hoisting, I say hoisting,
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you know, honing the aircraft takes a long time.
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For some people, it's decades in the making.
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Decades in the making. So yes, especially now that we
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all have Spotify, especially for those of you who are listening
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to this podcast on Spotify, you hear that somebody blows,
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somebody have 50,000 listens on Spotify and you just assume that
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it's something that happened overnight.
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Meanwhile, people have been fooling around, have been doing
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studio rats runs since, you know, maybe they're like, well,
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like, you know, 1314 there maybe are 20 something, you know, the
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the hammer, their star will shine, everything will align.
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Now you say God don't bless them and well, yeah, there's an
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element of God blessing. But really the guy has been
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doing has been living in the studio for a while, has been
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hustling. So it's almost 30 minutes.
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Let me know overstress it. But I believe that while I hope
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I've been able to point out to you guys that instead of staying
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where we are and feeling like we're incompetent, if we look
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around at our cousins military, sports, music, business as a
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whole, you will see that this thing is hard.
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And yeah, sometimes, you know, without ourselves, we cry small,
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but you wipe your eyes and you just own up that you don't want
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to be a part of this journey or you don't.
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For people who leave and go someplace, it's all right.
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It's not bad. Statistics are coming out in
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America about the rate of suicide among entrepreneurs, I
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think especially among male entrepreneurs in America.
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I don't know if it's going to be the same in Nigeria, if anybody
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even tries to do that research. But it's OK to say, you know
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what, I'm not going to put myself through all this stress.
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And then you go and apply to work in, send it back.
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It's all right. It's not biotic.
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You're not a failure, but the right perspective is.
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You just know that is going to be hard.
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But don't think of yourself as incompetent.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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I don't like you when I come across people and they think
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that they're incompetent. First of all, the knowledge.
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Did you have right knowledge? Were you using proper technique?
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Were you using proper strategy? And then were you giving
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yourself a sufficient number of attempts to even get to make
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this thing work? Please, if this is your first
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time listening to the podcast, listen to yesterday's episode.
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And remember, I'm not saying this thing to scare people away
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because like I said in yesterday's podcast episode, I
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like money. If you sign up to give me money,
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I will take the money. I just want to make sure that
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you have the right level of expectations because as much as
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I like money, I'm not a fraud and I don't want to defraud
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anybody and I don't want anybody to come and believe that.
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We'll sit down for two weeks and I'll give you some magic recipe.
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And by the time you alter that recipe and manifest your
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destiny, then your business will, you know, 10X or
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something. If there was that magic recipe,
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I won't be making this podcast. I would have been declaring
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nothing on to my life and 10X in my business every single day.
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So let me bring today's episode to a close.
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Sales is a performance sport. That is how you should think of
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it. So it's OK to feel bad.
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Everybody feels bad. We all have our up days and all
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have our down days. I mean, it's like me talking
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about sports. I play chess.
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I've not tried playing professionally.
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Well, I've got some skills. You know, we have up days, we
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have down days. There are days and my ratings go
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up. There is and my ratings go down.
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There are some days that I'm on the board and by the time I
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finish with the other person, yeah, I read their life history
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for them. Yeah, you understand, As in
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superior brushing. I brush the hell out of them.
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And then there's some days that you sit down at the board and
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then one small check away, somebody will come and disgrace
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you in front of everybody. 1234 before you know it, the board is
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just open. You're confused.
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Like what's happening, Does it, this small child I'm looking at
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in front of me that is doing me like this?
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The father or somebody. So we all have our ups and we
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all have our downs, but it's a performance sport, so we need
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plenty of repetition. We need the reps We need the
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reps You continue to repeat and repeat and repeat and you try.
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So for people who are in business three years on average,
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eventually something will click. For people who are in sports,
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it's a pity, but you know, some of them, four years old, they're
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already in training, getting in the reps For the military, it's
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the same thing every day. You run, you know, you do your
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jogging thing. Mummy, what I say, maker no.
26:36
Corner water, wonderful. I go corner water, wonderful.
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You know, you go and do all those your drills, then you
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assemble your gun, you disassemble it, you cock it, you
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reload it, you put it down, you dismantle it.
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You go and do press up, do pull up.
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You go and learn warfare. Go and do this way.
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So every day we're putting in the reps so that when the time
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comes and they call you for service, your Ganat, your agile,
27:05
your mobile, you're ready because you put in the reps The
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same thing for music, whether you guys know it or not.
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I'm willing to bet that as well as you're listening to this
27:16
podcast episode right now, I'm willing to bet that Bono boy
27:20
Davido Whiskey, I'm willing to bet that right now they're in
27:23
the studio just playing around with beats writing songs.
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You know something something like they're not chilling.
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Yes, maybe they'll wake up late because I went to club last
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night, you know, hungover or whatever, but shot the winter
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studio today. I can't guarantee you the winter
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studio today they are putting in reps So girl producer, which
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beat do you have? Ah, correct.
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Then you know, freestyle, another person freestyle and you
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know, you keep fooling around, but sure, they're putting in the
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reps Sales is a performance sport.
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It's like we're trying to build muscle here.
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And when you're trying to build muscle in the gym is technique
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plus reps. So that's right perspective.
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Sales is hard. What I need is technique plus
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reps Reps just means repetition. Let me say it one more time,
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selling, it's hard. It's a performance sport.
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So therefore what we need is techniques plus repetition.
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Should I say at a final time in case there's somebody who hasn't
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quite got it, Sales is a performance sport and it is
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hard. So therefore, what we need is
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technique plus plenty of repetitions.
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So feel sad. It's OK to cry, but then
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eventually wipe your tears and you said this is what I signed
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on for. And then you start reviewing
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what's my technique on point? How many reps am I supposed to
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have? Did I put in the reps?
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Since we've already done 30 minutes now, let's explore some
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more that in tomorrow's podcast episode.
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And that will be the third and the final part on this topic.
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And after that, I'll go back to my usual bubbly, girful self.
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But also you remember please as selling it's hard.
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And for those of you who have listened to the last podcast
29:09
episode and this podcast episode and you still want to give me a
29:12
call, you still want to be considered for January 12th,
29:15
2026. You still want to be a part of
29:17
the program, right? No problem, reach out, let's
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chat. I'd like to get to know you.
29:23
I'd like to get to know what business you're involved in, how
29:27
to get a sense of what, where you're trying to grow your
29:30
business to. What kind of returns are you
29:32
looking for? Where's your business suffering?
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We need to know all these things.
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It's part of the interview process before I take your money
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and before I let you in because I'm not a fraud.
29:44
I don't want to bring you in with the wrong expectations.
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And I don't collect money if I don't think I can help you.
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So business owners, my name is Tavishy Magadi.
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The number is 08064662140. For those of you who want to be
30:04
employees, you want to sell on behalf of someone else.
30:08
Excuse me, you're thinking of making good Commission.
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Sell your product for somebody. The product is maybe you know,
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30-40. Your own take is, you know, 7
30:17
percent, 10%, you know, do the math.
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You'll be able to sell two a month.
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Do the math. You're looking for that kind of
30:26
opportunity and you want to learn how to sell on the phones
30:31
because the focus is on people who think they can sell, who
30:36
think they can grow their business by using the phone.
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That's the focus. So you want to be an employee?
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Reach out. I have a client who is looking
30:45
for sales people who are revamping the sales team.
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They want fresh blood but want people who are disciplined.
30:53
We want people who are willing to put in the work because mana
30:56
is not going to fall from the sky.
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So call, send me a text message, send me a WhatsApp message on
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08064662140. I'm supposed to be saying one
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more thing but I've forgotten. Uh huh, Lagos.
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Now for those of you who are interested in the job
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opportunity because when Joshua reached out, you know, it's
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clearly Joshua wants to build his own business.
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But for those of you who are interested in the job
31:28
opportunity, remember, please Lagos, Lagos only because my
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client is based in Lagos, most of their operations are in
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Lagos. So Lagos only then the job
31:43
involves phone selling on the phone.
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So in other words, 9:00 in the morning, Monday to Friday, you
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are expected to have started making phone calls by 9:00.
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Not that you reach the office at 9:00, Not that you're signing in
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at 9:00. Not that you're booting your
32:03
computer at 99 o'clock. You should have already started
32:08
calling now because it is Lagos and because we want people in
32:14
the office by 9 and because we want people in the office from
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Monday to Friday for the whole month, we are thinking of people
32:26
who already live on the island or who live in Lakey who are
32:30
close by. My client's office is in Osaka,
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London, so want it to be that you're not going to be stuck in
32:37
traffic for two hours before you get to work.
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What are you spending a whole lot of money before you get to
32:46
work? So for the employment part, we
32:53
will be partial to people. In fact, we will only be talking
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to people who are based in Lagos and will be extremely partial to
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people who already live on the island, who live in Leckie, who
33:05
live Shah, the offices in Osaka, London.
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If you think you're close enough, you know, when you spend
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one hour in traffic, 2 hours in traffic, 3 hours in traffic, or
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you'll be spending, you know, 200,000 naira a month on
33:17
transport, then sure, no problem, reach out.
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But either way, I love meeting listeners of the podcast.
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So whether for the training, whether for the job or I just
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want to say hello, I definitely would like to hear from you.
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So thank you very much for your time and attention.
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I'll catch you some other time. And at the next episode, we will
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stop this depressing talk about how hard sales is.
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I just want to make sure that we have the right expectations for
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what is required to grow our businesses.
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So I'll catch you guys some other time.