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What Grinds YOUR Gears? - Episode 58 · The MindSets Podcast

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  Hello and welcome back to another.
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  Episode of Mindset. Podcast.
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  Those of you that are watching on YouTube might notice that we
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  are going back down memory lane. I know where it all began.
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  Yeah, so this is the original Mindset podcast studio that we
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  are in today. A few reasons behind it, mostly
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  because we're very busy and I had the kit here, so Charles
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  decided to come down here and do it in.
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  Yeah, the old small space. Michael, I like it.
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  Yeah, I mean, it's quite cozy. It.
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  Is cozy. Yeah.
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  A year ago Charles was a guest. This was the seat that he was in
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  beforehand. Now he's Co hosting and we're
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  going to do a slightly different episode.
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  I must admit, it has been a while.
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  It feels like it's been a very long time since we recorded an
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  episode. Thank you guys for holding on
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  and bearing with us. Part of that reason is because
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  we've been quite active ourselves and that is something
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  we will talk about. But how are you doing
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  physically, Emotionally. Yeah, I'm feeling good.
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  I think we'll we'll probably dig into that a little bit later on.
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  But emotionally 90% cool, which is which is pretty.
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  We can take, we can take. Yeah, I'm thinking though, you
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  sound way more positive. Yeah, I know.
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  We're, we're coming off the back of Cardiff High Works weekend
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  which we both raced at and we spent the weekend up there so we
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  have been tired. But Charles, you've also done
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  Hackney Half. Yeah, if it wasn't obvious from
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  your Instagram. I knew that was going to come up
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  for sure. That's going to come up.
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  So yeah, do you want to let everyone know how that was?
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  And and me, I haven't really asked you about it because I
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  wanted to save it till now. Yeah, I'm, I'm very pleased that
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  when people are asking me about hacking half, my response is I
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  just honestly had the best time ever and loved it.
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  It was my first half marathon, first half marathon experience.
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  And yeah, it wasn't the most ideal prep block.
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  I had like a really solid 8 weeks of training and I've given
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  myself 12 weeks. And then at the eight week mark
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  I did something stupid and as a result hurt my back.
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  And then I didn't run basically for three weeks.
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  So the idea was off the back of 12 weeks.
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  Could I break 90 minutes? What pace is that?
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  It was like around 4:15 probably.
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  Yeah, to literally just scrape under 90 minutes.
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  I actually ran a little bit faster.
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  But yeah, I was, I was very pleased off the back of not
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  having like the perfect prep to still have the speed and the
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  endurance. And honestly, like my longest
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  run in the training block was 14K.
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  So I've left like 7K in the dark.
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  And I didn't know how that was going to feel.
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  And luckily I had a friend who kind of like paced me through
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  the first maybe 10 KS or like kept the reins on me really, so
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  I didn't go out too hot. And actually he, he forced me to
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  run a little bit faster at the start than I really wanted to.
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  But if he hadn't done that, I definitely wouldn't broke in
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  mighty minutes. And so he kind of pushed me
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  along. And then I just felt great.
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  The atmosphere, the crowds, you know, the stars that basically
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  aligned and, and everything came together.
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  And I'd had like a really good tape week and my nutrition was
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  on point. And as a result I ran really
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  well and I think if I'd had a proper block and I'd done a
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  little bit more running pre the block as well, I can go even
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  faster. So that was like a really big
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  confidence boost for me. But yeah, it was just like all
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  round a really good time and a great event.
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  And as a result, I've already signed up for next year.
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  Oh, you have. I was going to say you're going
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  to do another or are you going to up it to a full?
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  I think I would like to continue this training block and maybe
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  push towards doing a full of the back end of this year.
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  It's given me confidence that maybe 3 hours is on the cards.
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  Sorry, but it would be like a real tough day out to run to run
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  sub three. But I like the idea of having
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  the summer to do all the training because the weather
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  will be good and then maybe racing in the back end of this
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  year. I've got everything crossed,
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  fingers and toes crossed that I get ballot place for London next
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  year. But I'll, I'll this should be on
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  my ground, my gears. I've entered the ballot
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  literally every year since 2014. Never, 2014.
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  Never. That's quite That's more than
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  10. That's what, 11 years now?
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  I'm born bred Londoner and I can't run my whole marathon
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  because of a valid place, you know?
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  So I'm like seeing witnessing London this year was like
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  amazing. So it was even more busy than
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  Hackney half, which was mental because Hackney half was like
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  people deep the whole the whole way around.
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  Not that I noticed any. I don't get, I don't get too
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  deep in it into this, but this is something that has been
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  coming up in conversations with people.
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  Are they overselling marathon tickets now?
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  Because I know people were complaining about how busy it
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  was, maybe throughout the course.
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  And when you think people dodge, it is, yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah. It was definitely for, I mean, I
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  can't comment on marathons, but for Hackney, like the first
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  maybe one 1 1/2 K was like, it was pretty tough, tough to
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  people dodge and then it obviously gets strung out.
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  And if you're a little bit faster and towards the front of
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  the pack, then I guess it's a bit easier.
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  But yeah, I don't know, maybe, but it's, it's like the the
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  people that I'm talking to now who've done Hackney for years,
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  some of these people are saying, oh, I just bought my Hackney
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  ticket like a couple weeks before or I could go on the
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  website and that was still availability because not, not
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  all the tickets have been sold. And now it goes and like I think
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  the first wave of tickets sold out for next year in 14 minutes,
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  which is literally mental, isn't it?
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  It's actually. Like Glastonbury?
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  Well, no. It's like a.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, initially that's that's another hot topic.
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  So, yeah, I'm sure like that's the new thing.
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  People just want to run races and the the events that are
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  around us and A and a popular are the ones that everyone wants
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  to run, unfortunately. So it's harder to get tickets
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  for. But I mean in in like overall
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  it's a good thing, right? People are are wanting to race
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  and run and it's just frustrating when you can't get
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  tickets. Well, if you don't get into the
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  ballot for London next year, I believe this year Manchester
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  Marathon was actually on the exact same day.
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  Yeah, it was, yeah. I don't know if they'll do the.
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  Same weekend, I think. I don't know if we got this
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  wrong, but I think there's another Manchester at the end of
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  this year in like. October.
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  So like if I could get a spot for that across the summer,
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  that's the perfect amount of time to train for that.
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  If not, there's others in the back end of the year, but
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  ideally I do a popular one because I feel like I perform
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  better in front of a crowd. If I'm running around, I don't
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  know, the arse end of nowhere and there's no one supporting
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  me, I'll probably just sit by the side of the road and have a
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  little cry. So.
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  So like Nathan who I was running with, you said every time we
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  went past a big group of people cheering, you speed up.
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  You can see that on my you have to have to.
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  Yeah, yeah. I can be testament to that as
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  well. Every high rocks that I've done,
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  the corner of the lap where I know people are, yeah, that pace
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  is going up. Close your mouth, look composed.
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  Yeah, yeah. Nasal breathe.
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  How was Smile Along? How was your Saturday morning?
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  You raced in Cardiff, wasn't it? Yeah, I think I put like
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  unnecessary amount of pressure on myself.
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  Can I, can I stop you on that? So for those that haven't
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  married Charles or those that don't know him well, I have
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  dealt with nerves myself. I used to get quite nervous as a
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  kid. I used to know people that got
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  very, very nervous. I've never met anyone that gets
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  pre race anxiety like Charles. It is.
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  And I, I genuinely like, as much as I'm laughing at it, it
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  concerns me quite a lot. Yeah.
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  I'm sure it's like detrimental to my performance.
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  Oh, so detrimental. And for someone who's like
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  pretty average, a high. Approx Not not no for someone
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  that has competed as much as you have in various.
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  Things yeah, the nerves are yeah, I, I think it's because I
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  did a lot of competing when I was younger and then I've had a
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  long time off but lots of things in my head I, I feel like
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  there's there's lots of unnecessary pressure that I put
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  on myself and maybe it's something I should address and
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  and become better at but yeah, I mean, in my head I'd come off
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  the back of Hackney half and my running has improved
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  significantly since the last time I'd race the high rocks.
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  So in my head already my running switch should be a little bit
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  faster. I'm definitely going to run the
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  right amount of laps this. Time this was a this was quite
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  it was obviously going to be the joke yes Cardiff did their bit
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  in making it as complicated as was my God so for those that are
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  aware in high rocks you have to run the 1 kilometer between but
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  one kilometer doesn't necessarily mean one lap and the
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  other thing is that the running amount that you do between each
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  station isn't necessarily always the same so the first the last
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  or independently might be longer might be shorter and then the
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  ones in the middle are usually the same distance for Cardiff.
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  The way that they do it is they tell you the number of times you
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  see the in gate before you run through it.
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  And in Cardiff it was the 4th time, which means that you're
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  mentally kind of running 4 laps, but you're not.
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  You're running like 3 1/2 for the first ones and then for the
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  middle laps you're running 3.1 laps.
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  And what that means is that because you run out of the out
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  when you leave your station, you immediately pass the end for the
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  first time, and that counts as #1 and then you come in three
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  times later, which is 4. But that's a demoralizing number
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  of times you have to run in this circle.
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  I hope that people listening to this who maybe not experienced
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  that can appreciate how confusing that is and then
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  sympathize with me when I ran an extra lap in my first ever high
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  rocks. You're going, oh, that guy must
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  be an idiot. He ran extra, but actually when
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  he at face value that's confusing.
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  It is confusing. The one thing that I will say
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  that is still quite funny about what you did in Stockholm the
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  first time was in your very first race, when you tell people
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  not to go out too hot, you try to be first in the ski and it
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  burns you hard. Yeah, and I ran an extra lap.
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  And you ran an extra lap. Well, so like rewinds then me
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  going into Cardiff, I've got much better running in my legs.
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  I will run the right amount of laps and even with those two
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  factors combined, I will go faster.
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  But I think again, tied into the fact that I didn't have a good
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  12 week Acme prep, I hurt my back for whatever reason.
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  I wasn't doing as much station work around that.
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  So the compromise or the running interference, I didn't really
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  have that exposure. I wasn't doing as much upper
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  body pulling. So I suffered on the sled pull.
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  I had a meltdown at the freaking Burpee broad jumps, a real melt
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  meltdown at the warbles. But I just didn't have that
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  volume in my body. So all of those factors combined
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  meant that I actually ran 10 seconds slower per kilometer in
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  Cardiff than in Stockholm. And as a result, I just went
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  slower overall. And I'd kind of this is
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  something that it's almost like embarrassing to me and something
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  that I've never really done before experienced.
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  But I got to the war balls and I saw it wasn't on and I basically
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  just quit. And there's like some other
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  things that I think probably like contributed to that as
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  well, But I've never had that before.
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  And it's like you see my body language and something I'm not
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  proud of and something I'd never preach to my own clients, but my
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  body language, I just looked like I was over it.
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  I didn't want to be there. I even walked over the finish
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  line. I guess it's embarrassing
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  looking back at now and I wish I'd and held myself to a better
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  standard. But once you get into that like
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  slippery mindset, I just like giving up and I just didn't want
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  to be there anymore. But I've can take a lot away
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  from that race and I think in theory I should be fitter.
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  I just need to string together a better block and, and we'll go
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  again in September when I'm going to be racing in Rome and
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  hopefully that will be like a proper redemption and I'm like
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  truly going to work hard on mindset to go into that race and
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  just enjoy it and like take it in a little more.
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  Can you, as much as you've circled this is like a
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  redemption, Can you actually not care about it?
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  Because yeah. Exactly.
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  One thing that people I have discovered when it comes to high
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  rocks, we put so much pressure. Well, people put pressure on
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  themselves to achieve their personal best every single time
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  and it doesn't happen. No, but also.
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  And we've spoken about that before.
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  Yeah. And the one big issue with High
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  Rocks is the standardization of the courses.
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  And that's always going to be an issue as long as they're in
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  different venues and that there are potential things that could
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  be done about it. But for the most part,
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  especially when it's a new venue, you're going to expect
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  that there's a trial on what the course is going to be like.
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  And this course was very different in the the rock zone,
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  which is where all the stations are inside, the running was
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  quite small because there wasn't really any spectator access.
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  However, because it was small, the run course was in effect
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  shorter, which is why it has to do more laps.
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  And across 25 laps, which is what it ended up being for the
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  whole race, there were four corners per lap.
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  You're doing a hundred corners. That does slow you down,
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  especially when you understand that even though people
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  shouldn't necessarily be in the inside bit, which is where the
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  faster runners go, if there's a corner, people don't want to run
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  the long way around the corner. There is going to be a bit of
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  traffic there. And that when we talk about
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  people dodging in sort of marathon sense, you're also
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  doing people dodging on a course and that is going to slow you
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  down so. And they're also like, because
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  there was less, there was less space.
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  The run track was narrow as well.
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  It was just like it was congested.
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  So I think comparing run times across races is really
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  difficult, and that's why I think I've spoken to you before.
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  I compare run plus Rock's own time because that ends up being
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  quite consistent. That's just really hard to work
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  out and take a lot of practice as you're racing.
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  Something that I can still sort of gauge now that I've done, I
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  actually worked out the other day, I've done 10 races this
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  season, which is or 9 or 10 races this season, which is
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  crazy. Last year I've done 2.
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  But the things that you learn from each race and it's that
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  race experience that's building up.
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  I think that was your second solo solo race.
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  And it's no wonder given that that you had, I mean, by the
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  end, you would have been aware of what time you're on.
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  If you were aware that you're not going to get your PB, then I
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  can completely get why you'd be like oh whatever, because it's
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  also. Again, it's like, why am I
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  comparing courses? Because like there's yeah, I
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  shouldn't, I shouldn't have just thrown in the towel like the
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  wool balls and just got through it.
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  I should have like, really pushed to do my best on the day.
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  But she was like, now that that school will always have an
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  asterisk next to it. And for me, in my head, maybe
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  that was just an excuse that I could tell people I went slow
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  because I, like, gave up on the wool balls.
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  Like I didn't do the wool wars properly.
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  But yeah, I mean, it's it's it's not good.
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  And like, the way you handle yourself across the finish line,
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  how you finish says a lot about you.
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  And I wouldn't necessarily characterize myself as someone
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  who would give up easily, but just on the day shit happens.
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  And it is. It is what it is.
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  So this is something that I think we both and probably most
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  of the people listening fall victim to quite a lot is with
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  the the sort of realization of this hybrid athlete slash just
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  generally fit person that can run or be slightly aerobic and
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  also lift some weight. It has borne a bit of an issue
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  in the competition calendar in that most of the people that I
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  know that do high rocks or run but also train, they are they
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  don't do one event throughout their year.
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  They're doing quite a lot. And in your case, you've just
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  done Hackney Heart. It's a very different sort of
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  training than a high rocks race, but there's still only two weeks
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  between them. And also, theoretically you
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  should have done London high Rocks with Hugh a week before
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  Hackney. And like stacking all of that,
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  it, it messes with your central nervous system so much.
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  It messes with your training so much.
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  It's going to mess with you mentally so much that like
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  that's something we don't really factor into and it's, and it is
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  quite stupid. Oh.
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  Yeah, that that like race calendar planning was not good
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  on my behalf. And like, actually it's probably
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  a blessing in disguise. I didn't race with Hugh in
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  London because as a result, my hacking time was what I wanted
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  it to be. And like, that's the thing I'm
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  going to have to take away from me is like I ran a really good
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  half marathon rather than I ran a really poor Cardiff Hyrox in
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  my head anyway. But yeah, I was like, I wasn't
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  going to mention this, but it's like, if I can have an excuse
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  this, I'm going to get it out. So funny story, at the at the
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  end of of Hyrox in Cardiff, I kind of felt some weird pain in
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  my stomach and I was like, oh, I've given myself a hernia.
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  I must have worked really hard for that.
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  Probably on his 3rd pool or something.
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  So I went to the doctors and they're like you definitely
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  don't have a hernia, but they were like concerned that I now
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  have appendicitis. So if I raced Kairos Cardiff
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  with appendicitis, then that's a pretty good excuse I think.
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  Fingers crossed I don't have appendicitis.
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  Yeah, we'll get the blood test results and next, next one,
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  you'll either see me or you won't.
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  Well, I mean, that's yeah, that's kind of what I was
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  alluding to. And then on my side of what
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  happened at the weekend, there's more stupidity.
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  I'm going to try and keep this short, but I kind of want to
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  tell you the the events of the race.
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  Basically those are the. We're not particularly good
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  role. Models we aren't, but we're
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  we're doing trial by fire so the the lovely listeners don't have
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  to make our mistakes. So bear in mind, as I just said,
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  I've done quite a few races this season and especially at the
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  beginning of the season, I said I wasn't actually bothered about
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  qualifying for world champions this year, especially because it
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  was in Chicago and I was like, that sounds expensive.
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  So I would like to get as much race experience by doing every
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  format of race if I could this season, which I've actually now
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  done so. That's crazy as a as a.
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  Male, you can do the open solo, open double s, pro solo pro
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  double s. You can do a mixed relay and a
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  men's relay. Is there anything else?
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  I think so. I've done, I've done all of
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  those and I've done multiple of some of them, which is great and
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  has been really good for race experience.
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  As I was saying, the problem is that quite a lot of those have
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  been towards the back end of the season and training wise between
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  I've felt like I've been playing catch up.
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  I haven't really had a chance to do like a race block.
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  Plus with small illnesses and stuff, I wasn't really allowing
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  for those to affect the training.
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  So I just kind of carried on and I think one of the things that I
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  am proud of is that mentally I can dig quite deep.
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  One of the bad things about that is I can often dig deeper than
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  the body physically has. So which not many people can say
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  that they can do. Exactly which is which is what
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  I'm I'm one of those things I'm proud of.
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  I I think I can outperform my physical capabilities, but at
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  what cost? And we kind of found out what
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  that was on Saturday. So again, for those that.
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  Don't know that I'm championing this, no.
• 18:12
  No no no, for those that don't know, I am a videographer as
• 18:17
  well, so I film all weekend at High Rocks races.
• 18:19
  Which again isn't the perfect prep before you do a race is you
• 18:23
  definitely don't want to be doing 30,000 steps a day
• 18:25
  beforehand. But it does mean that I'm very
• 18:28
  aware of the course and we're as fast and we're as slow.
• 18:31
  But anyway, Saturday came back to where we were staying and I
• 18:36
  just felt rough and I thought OK I'm going to try and get a nap
• 18:40
  in. Really struggled, hadn't really
• 18:42
  eaten too much throughout the day.
• 18:44
  I definitely hadn't been drinking enough because there
• 18:46
  wasn't any. It wasn't anywhere really easy
• 18:48
  for me to grab water between my shoots that I was doing.
• 18:51
  So I'd had about 500 mil of water.
• 18:53
  I'd had three chocolate muffins for breakfast and I had, I
• 18:55
  grabbed a burger with you quickly at lunch.
• 18:58
  Then didn't feel like I could really eat anything before I
• 19:00
  went into the race. But in the warm up area, I'd
• 19:03
  managed to get about half a bottle of water in with about
• 19:06
  half a sachet of electrolytes. And then I had a few like
• 19:10
  strawberry laces and put a gel in my pocket.
• 19:12
  And then I decided before this, and I'd said this to you guys as
• 19:15
  well, I'm not bothered about really what my time is.
• 19:18
  I would, I'd like it to be faster than Barcelona Pioli,
• 19:21
  because what we spoke about with the sleds, but I'm not that
• 19:24
  arsed. I do want to enjoy it.
• 19:25
  I mean, for God's sake, we're literally running around the
• 19:28
  Principality Stadium, which is, which is crazy, yeah.
• 19:30
  We haven't even mentioned that. And so like, looking up into the
• 19:32
  stands and being like, this is sick.
• 19:34
  Don't get me wrong to be cooler if they're full, but like, I'm
• 19:36
  not that guy. And the novelty warped so fast,
• 19:40
  man. So yeah, it did.
• 19:41
  Like when you you've run one lap, wow.
• 19:43
  And then you're like, cool, just 24 more.
• 19:46
  But I set off and the intention was, so we've spoken about this
• 19:51
  before. I don't know if you've spoke
• 19:52
  about it on the podcast, but the way to play the game, I think
• 19:55
  with Hierarchs is you find the line of where you're pushing
• 19:58
  hard and you kind of Just Dance around it.
• 20:00
  And my aim for this race was to always be just below it.
• 20:05
  And then I said the one place I don't want to be below it is the
• 20:08
  burpees. I want to actually see if I can
• 20:10
  end myself on the burpees and see what it does to my race
• 20:12
  because I'm fed up for being slow on birthday board jumps.
• 20:15
  Now, what actually happened was I did the first run, I was
• 20:18
  holding a solid pace. I was letting a few people that
• 20:21
  I thought I would want to race alongside.
• 20:23
  There was a few Youtubers in my wave.
• 20:25
  I kind of want to race alongside them and just be them.
• 20:27
  But I let them go and came into the skier, did the ski, came
• 20:31
  out, got to the sleds. And again, as we said about
• 20:34
  Barcelona, they felt heavy. And I'm not saying that they
• 20:37
  felt easy, but this sled just moved.
• 20:40
  And then as I was pushing this first of the four lengths, I was
• 20:43
  thinking I could do this whole length without a rest
• 20:46
  discipline. Not going to do that.
• 20:47
  So I did 2/3 quick rest and then carried on with the rest of it.
• 20:50
  And as I came off the back, I stopped my watch and I could see
• 20:53
  how long it had taken me. And I was like, we're just going
• 20:57
  to keep going as we're going, we're enjoying it, but like at
• 20:59
  the moment we're ahead where we were in Barcelona.
• 21:01
  And you look very good on those first couple of.
• 21:03
  Runs. So I was really trying to smile
• 21:04
  and I was just like focusing like I said, being under that
• 21:07
  line so I could run with decent enough technique and keep it
• 21:11
  smooth. And then went to the sled pool.
• 21:13
  And again, the sled was moving relatively easy.
• 21:15
  But I immediately noticed something I've been struggling
• 21:17
  in the last couple of weeks is back lower back fatigue.
• 21:20
  Immediately in my lower back just felt like it ran out of
• 21:22
  energy. And I was like, OK, this is
• 21:24
  early on, like can afford to slow down a little bit here
• 21:27
  because I, like I said, I am ahead.
• 21:28
  But again, it is still moving. So I got through that and we're
• 21:31
  still like a good minute, a minute and a half ahead already.
• 21:35
  And that's when I was like, right now we're coming to the
• 21:38
  burpees. We're going to run sensibly, but
• 21:41
  we're going to push it. Now again, in Cardiff, the
• 21:43
  racecourse, the way that they sometimes do it is 2 lengths of
• 21:45
  burpees, 40 meters each. Sometimes it's one length of 80.
• 21:50
  In Cardiff, it was 6 lengths of like 10 to 12 meters.
• 21:54
  They weren't all the same. But what I had worked out again,
• 21:56
  because I've been filming so much, is it was about 7 burpy
• 21:58
  board jumps with a little rest in between, which I tried to use
• 22:03
  to my advantage. And I actually got through them
• 22:05
  and I did them fast. And I had them before.
• 22:06
  And don't get me wrong, it still wasn't fast compared to like
• 22:09
  fast, fast people, but it was the fastest I'd done, came off
• 22:12
  the back of it And I was like, OK, heart rate definitely high.
• 22:15
  But now we're now we're talking like 2 minutes ahead.
• 22:18
  Like if I can keep this progress and the next thing I set my
• 22:21
  sights on was, well, I didn't do the farmers carry on broken last
• 22:24
  time. And I, I don't know why.
• 22:26
  Like I've not really ever had an issue with farmers carry.
• 22:28
  So I went into farmers carry, did that unbroken and was like,
• 22:31
  OK, here we go. Here we go.
• 22:33
  This is happening. The one thing that still kind of
• 22:35
  scared me in the back of my head was the lunges.
• 22:37
  And I was like, I'm going to ignore that fear And I pick up
• 22:39
  this bag and I'm just going to start and just keep it smooth.
• 22:42
  Again, the lunges, I don't know what it was.
• 22:45
  It was 2 lengths of 50 meters, but I remember doing about 20
• 22:49
  lunges nice and fluid, looking up slowly to see how much
• 22:54
  further was left. Was it in the first length?
• 22:55
  And the length just looked like it was getting further away from
• 22:58
  me. I have the same.
• 22:59
  It looks like a tunnel, like how far it was and.
• 23:02
  She was like on films where they do that effect where it seems to
• 23:04
  zoom out, That's exactly what happened to me.
• 23:06
  And the person that I had overtaken already was then
• 23:09
  catching me back up and got me back.
• 23:11
  And I realised at this point, even though I'd only really just
• 23:14
  decided to go for it, there was nothing there.
• 23:17
  Yeah, I had. No, there was no extra gear.
• 23:20
  Even if I'd wanted there to be, there hadn't been.
• 23:22
  So I'd persevered and I just sort of said head down, like,
• 23:25
  let's not get defeated again by the lunges and we'll make it
• 23:29
  round to the Woobles. The last run was horrible.
• 23:33
  I could just feel my heart coming through my chest and I
• 23:35
  was like, right, well, we're still on for Apbs, so you.
• 23:38
  Can't slow down. The last run wasn't it went on
• 23:40
  forever. The last run was one of the
• 23:42
  longer ones as well. So coming around and by this
• 23:47
  time the smile was definitely like coming off my face.
• 23:50
  I was, the aim was to smile the whole way around.
• 23:52
  It was coming off my face. And as I was going into the war
• 23:55
  balls, I was really like, OK, I'm going to give everything I
• 23:58
  have because there'd been a lot going on.
• 24:00
  Put this on my Instagram, sorry. There'd been a lot going on
• 24:02
  behind the scenes in my life last few months and this was a
• 24:05
  this was a coping mechanism and it was a chance to prove to
• 24:08
  myself that mentally I could do stuff.
• 24:10
  When it was really hard. I came into the wool walls and I
• 24:15
  had been doing a lot of practice with heavier ball and it felt OK
• 24:19
  first set, Second set also kind of felt OK.
• 24:22
  And then it started to really slow down.
• 24:24
  And weirdly in training whenever I'm doing these, the thing that
• 24:28
  goes is my muscles, like my shoulders or my legs are just
• 24:31
  tired. At this point in the race, it's
• 24:33
  actually my breathing thing. I can't get my breathing down.
• 24:36
  So anyway, got to 90 and that's kind of when I don't remember
• 24:41
  too much more. So I know I did the 100 and
• 24:46
  there's videos of me stepping away from that quite slowly
• 24:50
  because I, I do sort of always remember being cautious that
• 24:55
  I've actually done the hundreds because there's so many times
• 24:57
  I've filmed people where they throw away and they have to come
• 24:59
  back. But in this video, where I am
• 25:03
  out of it, I, I'm smiling. I don't know what I'm smiling
• 25:06
  about. And I stumble across the line
• 25:08
  and I immediately, like, lie down on the floor.
• 25:11
  Because I remember like we were on the other side of the track.
• 25:15
  Oh, you couldn't hear us. But obviously like we're
• 25:17
  screaming at you because we're looking at our watches and we're
• 25:18
  like, he's on here, he's got to go.
• 25:20
  And he's just like standing around.
• 25:22
  We're like rum. Yeah, and I was, I was
• 25:24
  absolutely not in your. I was.
• 25:27
  Having a conversation in a completely different place.
• 25:30
  And then I, I crossed this line and I immediately had to put my
• 25:34
  legs up in the air because I I felt so light headed.
• 25:37
  And then there's another video where I actually stumble.
• 25:40
  I look like I'm 15 pints deep. I'm stumbling off the stage.
• 25:44
  I shake my head, I go over to everyone and again, this is this
• 25:47
  is classic me. But I go over to her and I'm
• 25:49
  like, thanks for spoiling. Like I'm all good.
• 25:52
  I'll come find you in a minute just so I can get them gone.
• 25:55
  And then as soon as that you guys all left to go and watch
• 25:57
  our friends. I got back on the floor, feet
• 26:00
  raised on this chair. I lay there for 20 minutes.
• 26:04
  Had a few people give me some apple, which I actually get in
• 26:05
  me. I was thinking, cool, I'm
• 26:06
  feeling better now. I ended up just swallowing my
• 26:09
  pride and just saying to another guy who just finished, like, can
• 26:12
  you go get someone, please? Came over and the guy was like,
• 26:15
  what's up? And I was like, so my whole
• 26:18
  right leg is in full cramp. And he was like, do you want to
• 26:21
  sit up? And I was like, OK, yeah.
• 26:22
  So he helped me sit up. My abs went into full cramp and
• 26:25
  I instantly threw up on the floor twice.
• 26:28
  And now I was rolling around. He was like, OK mate, let's get
• 26:30
  you, let's get you like onto the chair or something.
• 26:33
  And I was like, I can't move either of my legs.
• 26:34
  And we both looked at my legs and you can see the cramp
• 26:37
  rippling through my hamstrings and my it was just locked.
• 26:41
  So eventually these medics came over, they had a chat with me
• 26:44
  and the whole time now I was quite accomplishmentist.
• 26:46
  Like I was able to talk and they took me away, did a heart test,
• 26:50
  blood pressure checks, everything and it was fine.
• 26:52
  But the long shot, and this is where it's quite serious is I
• 26:57
  think it's fair to say that I'm in a current state of mild to
• 27:00
  medium rhabdo, which well rhabdo, my myelosis, myelosis,
• 27:04
  that's the that's the full Latin.
• 27:06
  Yeah, makes it sounds scarier. Essentially what that is, is
• 27:09
  when you push too hard without fueling properly for your
• 27:13
  muscles and your muscles actually do tear, but not in the
• 27:15
  same tear as like you've injured them and you've torn a muscle.
• 27:19
  It's to like they actually breakdown and when your muscles
• 27:23
  do that, they release a lot of chemicals that within the
• 27:26
  muscles that aren't great for your body.
• 27:29
  It can be quite damaging to your kidney, sorry to your liver,
• 27:33
  liver, and then obviously that passes on to your kidneys if you
• 27:36
  do the damage. But it's really not a great
• 27:38
  place to be. And I'm now kind of on watch of
• 27:40
  doing really low intensity activity for a while, which is
• 27:43
  fine because I'm not going to worlds.
• 27:45
  I've got nothing necessary on the cards, but it is quite
• 27:47
  dangerous. Another thing that I didn't talk
• 27:49
  about that I didn't do in the race was I didn't have any water
• 27:53
  throughout the race. Part of that was because I kept
• 27:56
  missing them, kept being inconveniently placed for me at
• 27:58
  the time. I I take that back now, but it
• 28:02
  was stupid and I wasn't right. And I don't think it's what
• 28:07
  people should do. And like I said, I'm kind of
• 28:08
  proud that I can push myself to that limit.
• 28:10
  But like it's so detrimental and it's so like genuinely for those
• 28:14
  that aren't aware, rather they can kill you like it has done,
• 28:17
  it does all the time. You see people die every year at
• 28:19
  marathons and events like that. A large cause of that is things
• 28:22
  like overheating, which then plays into things like rap
• 28:25
  though. So take it from me, it wasn't
• 28:28
  cool. I still didn't get the time I
• 28:30
  wanted, so there was no point in doing it.
• 28:32
  But it is what it is. Now, for those that have
• 28:36
  listened to our our debriefs, this is actually going to be
• 28:39
  quite a funny episode after all of that.
• 28:42
  Because we listened. It's so funny after the last
• 28:45
  episode. A lot of people, it turns out,
• 28:47
  seem to have Grind My Gears. Yeah.
• 28:49
  And we aren't going to cut that out of this episode.
• 28:51
  So what we did was we opened up the story while we were in
• 28:54
  Cardiff and said, look, we're going to do Grind My Gears and
• 28:57
  we're going to do a big, big part of this episode on Grind My
• 29:00
  Gears. But we'd love to hear your guys
• 29:02
  responses as well. So we're going to mix in, we're
• 29:05
  going to throw in a mixture of ours, and we're going to throw
• 29:07
  in a mixture of yours. If you're new to this and you
• 29:10
  didn't realize that you could have a say, always keep an eye
• 29:12
  on the Instagram story for The Mindset's podcast or drop
• 29:15
  something in the comments or even DM us because we love to
• 29:18
  have the interaction from those of you that are listening.
• 29:21
  So do you want to start us off with Chrome My Gears this week?
• 29:25
  Have you got something that's burning?
• 29:26
  Yeah, and I don't know how it's like fallen through the net this
• 29:30
  this long. OK, you're going to like it as
• 29:33
  well Damper 10 Warriors. I'm like how is that not my
• 29:37
  first ever grind my gears It's so.
• 29:40
  On brand, it's quite niche, but it's very on brand because this
• 29:42
  is this is kind of almost what I'd say you're famous for.
• 29:45
  Yeah, yeah, it's. About the damp OK, so I've also
• 29:49
  got a mini grind my gears off this OK, fine.
• 29:51
  Can I can I just get this in there?
• 29:53
  Please go. Here.
• 29:54
  How do you spell damper? That was my that was up next on
• 29:57
  my list, the Damner. Dampener is not a dampener.
• 30:01
  I do this from physics. I used to be an engineer.
• 30:03
  It's a damper. How was that?
• 30:05
  My next hour it's like in about comments, like when people call
• 30:07
  it dampener. Anyway, we digress.
• 30:10
  The damper setting is essentially on all of the
• 30:14
  Concept 2 machines. So you've got the concept rower,
• 30:17
  you've got the concept ski, and then you've got the concept two
• 30:19
  or the concept bike. They're all resistance from a
• 30:24
  fan, right? So you can let more or less air
• 30:26
  into the fan with what you call the damper.
• 30:29
  So you've got one through to 10. And I think a lot of people who
• 30:33
  potentially don't have experience with a lot of
• 30:35
  training on the on the Uggs will assume that damper 10 is the
• 30:39
  hardest or they're going to get the most out of damper 10.
• 30:43
  So you just crank it up, damper 10, whatever, go for it.
• 30:46
  But the damper is essentially, like I say, is affecting how
• 30:50
  much air comes into the fan. The more air that goes in, IE
• 30:53
  #10 the more air resistance there is, it feels harder to
• 30:56
  pull or push with your legs or whatever machine you're on.
• 31:00
  But you can create or figure out what damper setting you should
• 31:03
  be on based off the drag factor. And Simply put, the drag factor
• 31:07
  is a calculation which shows you how quickly the fan slows down
• 31:11
  based off every pull. Everyone's going to be slightly
• 31:14
  different based off fitness, strength, power output, body
• 31:17
  geometry, that kind of thing. Not necessarily you're going to
• 31:21
  be up on Dampa 10. Very rarely you're on Dampa 10.
• 31:23
  And I don't want to be misquoted here, but I was obviously I like
• 31:27
  to go down rabbit holes with things.
• 31:29
  I googled this and there was AI think an Olympic gold medalist.
• 31:34
  He was like maybe Slovenian or Croatian or something and he
• 31:38
  said unless you're an Olympic level heavyweight rower, you
• 31:42
  should never have the damper over 7.
• 31:45
  So when I see people in the gym with a damper just cranked up to
• 31:48
  10, I instantly assume they have no idea what they're doing.
• 31:51
  Now don't get me wrong, there is a time and a place to be up on
• 31:53
  10 probably depending on the session.
• 31:55
  But more likely than not, if your machine is clean and well
• 31:59
  maintained, you're looking at somewhere between maybe 4:00 and
• 32:02
  6:00. And then this feeds into like
• 32:04
  another grind my gear, which I'm not going to go into now, But I
• 32:07
  see a lot of unsolicited advice on Instagram of like where
• 32:11
  should I have my damper setting from people who have no idea?
• 32:14
  And it's just like easy for them to say put it in and around 7 or
• 32:17
  8 without actually having any understanding of what your DAMPA
• 32:20
  setting should be based off drag factor or anything else.
• 32:23
  So that's a big one for me and I don't want to get too passionate
• 32:26
  about it, but straight in there number 10 DAMPA setting, just
• 32:30
  avoid it. Well.
• 32:31
  I've gone from the ick to almost like the opposite end where I
• 32:35
  definitely used to do that when I used to use the gym.
• 32:37
  I used to because I don't understand.
• 32:39
  I was like, I want to be strong. I am strong man.
• 32:42
  I put on 10 but no you're completely right.
• 32:45
  And for those of you that have put it on 10 and realize how
• 32:48
  hard rowing is, it shouldn't be that hard and people don't
• 32:50
  choose to do that sport with it be that hard.
• 32:53
  But then something that I do now is when I'm in a high rocks
• 32:58
  race, for example, when you start to understand the benefits
• 33:00
  of the different levels, it's become quite trendy to do quite
• 33:03
  a low damper setting. So putting it actually down
• 33:06
  again, I still weigh like over 90 kilos, I'm still quite
• 33:10
  powerful. But I put the damper on like 3
• 33:12
  or 4 because then it's, it all becomes way more aerobic, which
• 33:16
  I have trained my body for, for this event rather than being a
• 33:19
  muscular endurance thing. Because if I toast myself in my
• 33:21
  muscles at the beginning of the race, then the sled pull is
• 33:25
  going to be a lot. The row later on is going to be
• 33:27
  slightly harder. My grip strength, like
• 33:29
  everything's going to be affected from that point on and.
• 33:31
  If I don't feel hard at the time, but the compounding effect
• 33:34
  of fatigue later on in, that's where you feel it, right?
• 33:37
  I don't feel it straight away. It's when you get to the lunges
• 33:39
  or when you get to the rowing later on in the race where it's
• 33:42
  actually going to have an impact.
• 33:43
  So that's quite a key thing as well, is like your drag factor,
• 33:45
  if we're going to go into the nerdy side of it should be
• 33:47
  dependent on the session you're doing, sure.
• 33:49
  And also the machine you're on, because no machine is created
• 33:52
  equal. Yeah, yeah.
• 33:53
  The gym that you train at is completely different in terms of
• 33:56
  the maintenance of the kit, the age of the kit of a machine down
• 33:59
  the road, you know, in a different gym.
• 34:01
  And, and I say that to everyone, it's like age, cleanliness and
• 34:04
  then atmospheric pressure, which is probably less important.
• 34:06
  But like, you should always test your drag factor when you're
• 34:10
  getting on a machine, especially if your machine is like
• 34:12
  monostructural and all you're doing is rowing or all you're
• 34:15
  doing is skiing or biking. It just gives a little bit more
• 34:18
  consistency across your training and as a result, your training
• 34:21
  is going to be much more effective.
• 34:22
  Just make it a little bit more scientific than just
• 34:25
  guesstimating. Yeah.
• 34:26
  So that was quite a serious one. I'm glad you have brought that
• 34:29
  up because that is quite on brand.
• 34:30
  I'm going to come back at you with a very different one.
• 34:34
  So someone's written in on this way.
• 34:36
  This is a you. The fact that all cheerleaders
• 34:39
  are world champions every year. Oh no.
• 34:42
  What? How?
• 34:44
  But I've got a this is like the same as why is the the NFL
• 34:50
  winning team world champion? Yeah, no, I I completely agree
• 34:53
  with that. Well, like baseball, I
• 34:54
  completely the NBL. That that that was because of
• 34:56
  NBNBL. The HLNBA combined the T.
• 34:59
  You know all of them all are they?
• 35:02
  Champions I. Completely agree.
• 35:03
  Champions of America. Completely agree but every
• 35:05
  cheerleading team from the UK seems to go to America for
• 35:07
  worlds every year and seems to win But like I know and I have
• 35:11
  known people that have been on like 8 different teams and
• 35:13
  they're like what's going on? Are you a world champion for
• 35:17
  going? Is it one of those?
• 35:19
  It's a bit like qualified for champs for high rocks.
• 35:21
  Yeah, as soon, yeah, as soon as people get the badge for high
• 35:23
  rocks and world champs. They were a world champion, but
• 35:25
  they weren't OK. That's one of my quick ones.
• 35:29
  Have you got other quick ones that you want to route through?
• 35:31
  Go. Go again.
• 35:32
  OK, my next one. I'm also, I have to caveat that
• 35:37
  because I recently made a cheerleading comment to a
• 35:40
  cheerleader and I got you got burned.
• 35:42
  Yeah, OK. And so I'm like, I'm sitting
• 35:44
  like very firmly on the fence here.
• 35:46
  And I'm not going to say too much.
• 35:48
  I respect all cheerleaders. I've got another one from this
• 35:51
  week. This actually goes.
• 35:53
  This was quite trendy I think in the 60s.
• 35:56
  But people who walk down the street blaring music, especially
• 36:00
  if it's like, not, well, I wouldn't expect them to play pop
• 36:04
  music. But like, it's never pot.
• 36:06
  It's never. Music is generally accepted.
• 36:08
  But like, yeah, walking down the street this weekend, there were
• 36:10
  three guys and it really pissed me.
• 36:12
  Off any any music out loud in public place just wear
• 36:16
  headphones. Or or even like watching TikTok
• 36:19
  or anything like. That watching sport, like I'm
• 36:21
  into sport, but the whole train carriage doesn't need to watch
• 36:24
  your football game. I'll tell you what this is
• 36:26
  something that's like actually pissed me off to the point where
• 36:28
  I nearly lost my mind when I was travelling.
• 36:32
  It was quite common in certain countries that headphones just
• 36:36
  aren't a thing. But the canned laughter on every
• 36:41
  single TikTok or real and bearing in mind how you watched
• 36:44
  it, like you just swipe, swipe, swipe.
• 36:45
  So all it was was about 2-3 hours on journey and it's the
• 36:50
  same laugh and it's usually I don't know how to it's like the
• 36:53
  Alvin and the Chipmunks laugh on repeat for two hours.
• 36:58
  Like made me go insane. So if you desire or music, how
• 37:02
  did you all down the street turn it off?
• 37:06
  Well, I can. I completely do that.
• 37:09
  All right, so you want me to go? Yeah, but I showed Angus before
• 37:12
  we started. My list now is I think the last
• 37:15
  week has been a tough week for me because my list has grown,
• 37:18
  like exponentially. This on Sony shop.
• 37:23
  This is a bit more jokey. When restaurants don't have Coke
• 37:27
  Zero, they only have diet. What is Diet Coke or.
• 37:30
  Right Sir, why don't you just get Coke 0 as well?
• 37:33
  Do you know what's really mad? It's also I don't care because I
• 37:37
  drink both but whatever but. Come on, a year, a year ago I
• 37:40
  was actually, no, not even a year ago, like 2 years ago, I
• 37:43
  was so team Diet Coke. Oh really?
• 37:45
  When Coke 0 came out, I was like, what is the point?
• 37:46
  You already have Diet Coke? Yeah.
• 37:48
  And then I did a blind taste testing of Pepsi, all the Pepsi
• 37:52
  versus all the Cokes and Coke 0 was clear and I didn't know.
• 37:56
  And I was like, my whole life's been a lie.
• 37:59
  I actually don't really like Diet Coke very much.
• 38:00
  Yeah. And since then, yeah, majorly on
• 38:03
  the Coke 0 train. And I do agree that it is a far
• 38:06
  superior version than Diet Yoke and that.
• 38:09
  But you should just have it. Yeah.
• 38:11
  I don't, I don't understand if you're going to have Coke, if
• 38:13
  you're going to have Diet Coke, you might as well just have Coke
• 38:15
  0 as well. And what's the problem with with
• 38:18
  stocking both? Because then it is kind of long,
• 38:22
  like you could just have loads of 1 instead of have to work.
• 38:25
  They're going to have some of both.
• 38:26
  Regular coke? Diet Coke.
• 38:28
  They're already ordering two. You're probably ordering from
• 38:32
  the same place. Click the button and add some
• 38:34
  Coke Zeros in. Yeah, fair.
• 38:35
  I think that is fair, especially when you're going to like an
• 38:37
  establishment. Yeah, like an actual.
• 38:39
  I'm not going to a friend's house.
• 38:40
  No, this is not OK. And it's like, also, I'm going
• 38:44
  to drink it either way, but it just, it just grinds my gears,
• 38:46
  Yeah. That's fine.
• 38:47
  That's the purpose. A rational.
• 38:50
  Grind my gear. Let's let's have some from
• 38:52
  people that have written it. One of one of the ones that was
• 38:55
  quite common, a few people brought this up was people not
• 38:58
  putting their weights back in the gym.
• 38:59
  Oh, come on. But how old are we really?
• 39:01
  Yeah. You know, I don't get it.
• 39:03
  I don't know. I also don't know.
• 39:05
  And I would love to ask these people, who do they think does
• 39:07
  it? So this is, I categorize these
• 39:10
  people. It's like, oh, someone gets paid
• 39:13
  to do that. Or like, have you seen people
• 39:15
  like just drop rubbish? I go, well, someone's going to
• 39:17
  pick it up. Someone gets paid to do that.
• 39:19
  Oh, I hate those people. I would quite like to find out
• 39:22
  where they work and do stuff that they will have to do and be
• 39:25
  like, well, you're going to get paid to do it.
• 39:26
  Yeah. Oh yeah, obviously someone's
• 39:28
  gets paid to do that. No they don't.
• 39:30
  No, they. Don't get paid to put your shit
• 39:31
  away, put away yourself. Because also, if I'm working in
• 39:35
  the gym and someone doesn't put their kit away, guess who's
• 39:37
  putting it away? So.
• 39:40
  I've also. It's just, it's just like
• 39:42
  general, like common manners. I've been to a gym where who my
• 39:46
  university gym used to charge people if they didn't it's £20
• 39:49
  on the spot. You didn't, so you'd get a
• 39:51
  warning but it would be marked on your account for the year
• 39:55
  that you'd had a warning. So it wasn't like warning mate.
• 39:57
  If you don't do that year today you're going to get one warning.
• 40:00
  You walk out of the gym where you try to move on to another
• 40:02
  piece of equipment and you haven't left it for someone to.
• 40:05
  It is ready to move on, £20 fine, straight on there.
• 40:08
  Oh gosh. Beautiful.
• 40:09
  Yeah. Gym was perfect.
• 40:10
  Yeah, I bet it was. And The thing is, once that
• 40:12
  rule's in place, yeah, everyone just understands and plays by
• 40:15
  the rule. But.
• 40:16
  You shouldn't have to like you shouldn't have to threaten
• 40:18
  people. They just yeah, I say people
• 40:21
  don't say please and thank you. Like rude to to staff in
• 40:24
  restaurants. It's the same kind of It's all
• 40:26
  they all. They all fit in that bracket in
• 40:29
  the bin. I've got more.
• 40:31
  Yeah, I've got quite a lot, though we've got quite a few.
• 40:33
  Like you guys are just as frustrated as we are.
• 40:36
  I've got one saying that when you're training in a public gym
• 40:39
  and people don't understand what a superset is.
• 40:42
  Oh yeah, I can understand how that might be frustrating.
• 40:46
  It would. It could definitely get annoying
• 40:48
  with people trying to come in and yeah, get in the way.
• 40:50
  I get it though, like it's hard to to take a lot of equipment
• 40:54
  when someone else also wants to use the same piece of equipment.
• 40:57
  Well this ties these two should not be in the same room.
• 41:00
  Someone else has written in and said when people hog.
• 41:04
  This this one is about the other person.
• 41:06
  Pretty much where is it when people feel the need to hog more
• 41:10
  than two sets of dumbbells? So if you are doing, if you're
• 41:15
  doing like a drop set or a super set.
• 41:17
  Sometimes you do. Use three sets, but like you are
• 41:19
  a bit of an an asshole really if you are keeping them and you can
• 41:23
  see other people are using. Them so glad I think training a
• 41:25
  commercial gym, but like a lot of my clients training
• 41:28
  commercial gyms and as a result, I have to be wary and mindful.
• 41:31
  I can't just program, OK, you're going to row and then you're
• 41:34
  going to side push and then you're going to do this and then
• 41:36
  you're going to do warbles and they're like, I cannot, I cannot
• 41:39
  man all those machines at once. Like I'm going to spend half my
• 41:42
  time like chatting to people to say that I'm using that machine.
• 41:45
  So it's just like, I guess what? It's frustrating.
• 41:47
  It's frustrating. What else have we got 01 that
• 41:51
  I'm so on board with and this doesn't make any sense is if
• 41:55
  you're training in a gym and someone steps over your bar,
• 41:58
  like if you're doing dead lifts or something like that and
• 42:00
  you've got your bar set up and not even that you're like about
• 42:03
  to do a wrap like you could be in your.
• 42:05
  Rest no. This is so irrational.
• 42:07
  Why are you stepping over my bar?
• 42:09
  No, that's irrational. I don't think that is
• 42:11
  irrational. It grinds my gears.
• 42:13
  There is a whole gym. Yeah, don't walk over my bar.
• 42:16
  I just claim. And actually I did say when when
• 42:19
  this first came in, I did mention it to you.
• 42:21
  And I think this actually comes from when I used to play
• 42:23
  American football. It's all like contacts.
• 42:25
  Like a disrespect thing. If, yeah, if I was to tackle you
• 42:29
  and you were on the ground, I got up and stepped over you like
• 42:35
  that is like a dominant, Yeah, like I've just put you in like
• 42:39
  in the mud, like get wrecked, yeah.
• 42:42
  And that's what it feels like. You step over my barbell.
• 42:44
  This is so irrational. I can understand that, that
• 42:47
  whole process, but I think that's rational.
• 42:49
  Also like if you can step over it.
• 42:51
  Just go around. Just go round it.
• 42:53
  You don't have to piss me off like that.
• 42:55
  So it's only you and that whoever wrote that it's only you
• 42:58
  2 who care about that. I care about like weightlifting
• 43:02
  etiquette. If I'm going to make a lift,
• 43:04
  never walk in front of that person.
• 43:07
  It's distracting in the eye line and that kind of thing.
• 43:09
  That's disrespectful. But walking over the bar if
• 43:11
  you're not even using it? This the the next person has
• 43:15
  exposed themself with the type of gym they use because they've
• 43:18
  said and this is valid. But like this isn't a daily
• 43:20
  problem for me when people don't shut the door after leaving the
• 43:24
  sauna that does. Yeah, that does piss me off.
• 43:28
  Or like you. You go into the sauna and you
• 43:30
  close it really slowly. It's like it affects the
• 43:32
  temperature like straight away. Yeah, I get anything else.
• 43:35
  It isn't like a quick fix. Me going and closing the door
• 43:38
  means I'm now pissed off for at least 2 to 3 minutes while I get
• 43:40
  back to temperature. Probably longer, yeah, yeah.
• 43:43
  And it wasn't hard, was it? I'd love to know who wrote that.
• 43:45
  I am so. Bougie, you can know, but I'm
• 43:47
  keeping this anonymous because I don't want to get other people
• 43:49
  cancelled. It should only ever be asked
• 43:52
  that's. So.
• 43:53
  Funny, this is an interesting one because you're a coach when
• 43:56
  people assume your capacity or capability based on your
• 43:59
  appearance. Interesting.
• 44:02
  What are your thoughts on that? Because as someone that coaches
• 44:05
  classes and gets new members in, you don't know their background.
• 44:08
  Never assume and never assume and, and I've said this before
• 44:13
  and I'll say it again and I don't know why I use this phrase
• 44:15
  but it's like it's why I think the fitness industry is so
• 44:19
  perverse because you assume based on looks.
• 44:22
  It's why some PTS will get more work than others because 1 has
• 44:26
  like a shredded 6 pack and one looks like they don't train.
• 44:29
  It's not based on knowledge. The one who looks like they
• 44:31
  don't train might be the most knowledgeable coach ever, the
• 44:34
  most sympathetic coach, the most empathetic coach.
• 44:36
  But the one who has a six pack, you go, well he must know what
• 44:39
  he's talking about. Well, they must know what
• 44:40
  they're talking about because they look a certain way.
• 44:42
  That annoys me so much. And actually this is this is a
• 44:45
  really interesting one because I think earlier in my coaching
• 44:48
  career I would have probably assumed that someone could do XY
• 44:52
  and Z because of the way they looked.
• 44:54
  And as I've matured as a coach, I just never assumed like base
• 44:58
  it off conversations and previous experience and always
• 45:01
  start slowly and then go from there.
• 45:04
  I. Think that was one thing that I
• 45:05
  found really difficult as well, because when I well, my reflexes
• 45:08
  were crazy when I first started training hierarchy stuff with
• 45:16
  you coaching it and I realized that there was this other group
• 45:19
  of boys that were doing these sessions and they were like
• 45:21
  hard. I was aware that in the physical
• 45:24
  state I was in, I wasn't at the level that they were at, but I
• 45:27
  was like, I have been and like mentally I, I still am, but like
• 45:34
  I want to train with them. I don't know how I'm going to
• 45:36
  get to training with them because none of them is
• 45:37
  individuals are going to be like you should be a training park.
• 45:40
  But like, I know I should be, but like I need to bridge that
• 45:44
  gap and show it. And that's, that's kind of what
• 45:47
  happens. But like, I do get that as well
• 45:49
  because that's toxic. The same person tied in when men
• 45:53
  feel like they have to inform you of the risks of lifting as a
• 45:56
  woman. Oh no, just some people, man.
• 46:03
  There's so much. The thing is this.
• 46:04
  Quite cool word. There's so much science coming
• 46:06
  out about this at the moment as well, but like certain points
• 46:11
  where men would potentially project that women shouldn't be
• 46:14
  doing too much. There's things like pregnancy as
• 46:15
  well when you know, you should be taking care of the child
• 46:19
  that's inside. There's quite a lot of science
• 46:21
  that's come out now saying that like, yeah, maybe not be doing
• 46:25
  some of the crazy, crazy things, but like strength training,
• 46:28
  doing some form of training is actually so beneficial to you
• 46:31
  throughout your pregnancy, but also to the baby.
• 46:34
  I could go in on this. One of my favorite things ever
• 46:38
  is when there's a girl in the gym and she's lifting heavier
• 46:41
  than all the guys. I just, and all the guys are
• 46:43
  just like, why is that? There's just some, so many
• 46:47
  stupid assumptions that men make for whatever.
• 46:49
  It's hard for me for us to sit here and say that when I
• 46:51
  remember there's a few actually members that I've worked with
• 46:55
  who have trained pretty much all the way up until their due date,
• 46:58
  like super moms. And it's been the point where
• 47:01
  they've come to the session and I'm like, oh God, I hope I'm not
• 47:04
  coaching this one in case the baby pops out or whatever.
• 47:07
  But like just, yeah, I, I can't have any more admiration for the
• 47:12
  ability to deal with all of the stresses of being pregnant and
• 47:16
  then also coming in and and training to like the best of
• 47:19
  their abilities. And obviously we modify training
• 47:21
  based off their needs and whatever and what they're
• 47:24
  comfortable doing. But training whilst pregnant?
• 47:27
  So sick. Man that's so cool.
• 47:28
  Another thing that I find inspiring, but like genuinely, I
• 47:31
  just, I just think it's sick is like I could see on Instagram
• 47:37
  that there could be like a woman who is maybe 50 kilos and then
• 47:43
  you'll see that she's doing like a proper power clean.
• 47:46
  Oh yeah, yeah. Clean and jerk weight lighting.
• 47:48
  Yeah, with like 110. Kilos, relative weight and
• 47:50
  weight lifting is unbelievable. I don't weigh that much, but you
• 47:54
  could throw me around like a toy is so sick, so cool.
• 47:58
  But that's so cool that you can do that.
• 47:59
  That's like such a good like representation of relative
• 48:02
  strength is watching the top level Olympic weight lifters.
• 48:05
  Yeah, it's, it's phenomenal, honestly.
• 48:07
  And and like. The whole thing that was out a
• 48:10
  few years ago, like sleeper builds.
• 48:12
  Yeah, hugely present. Especially I think in in women's
• 48:16
  sport, because it's so hard to tell with women in the gym space
• 48:22
  and the fitness space where that strength lies, because some
• 48:25
  women are very lower body dominant in terms of their
• 48:28
  strength. And don't get me wrong, men are
• 48:29
  as well. But with men, I feel like the
• 48:31
  way that we do train and the way that our physique, our physique
• 48:33
  respond with testosterone, it is sometimes more obvious to tell
• 48:37
  where the training is spent. With women, that's not
• 48:40
  necessarily true. And so you do suddenly get these
• 48:43
  amazing surprises of someone's ability.
• 48:46
  And that kind of ties into not assuming someone's ability
• 48:48
  again, or the ability because you don't know, because
• 48:51
  everyone's body is different person to person.
• 48:54
  And it's just like form over function, like you don't have to
• 48:58
  look a certain way to compete in whatever or like perform at a
• 49:01
  certain level. Like, yeah, it's just a that's a
• 49:05
  frustrating one. I can understand why that all
• 49:07
  grind your gears. That grinds my gears.
• 49:08
  They grind. Yeah, my gears.
• 49:09
  I'm going to jump back into one of mine.
• 49:11
  Yeah, Go when things say they're high protein when they're quite
• 49:14
  literally lower protein than the regular alternative.
• 49:17
  Yeah, it's like my bagel one the other day.
• 49:20
  What was that? Well, I was like protein bagels
• 49:23
  versus bagels, and they literally have the same protein
• 49:25
  or like less protein. Here's another one if you're
• 49:28
  trying to do some form of dieting or just reduce your
• 49:32
  calorie intake. Things like Mars bars where they
• 49:35
  have their 99 Cal version. If you actually bought a normal
• 49:38
  Mars bar, the calorie density is lower in a normal Mars bar than
• 49:42
  the snack bars, and that for such.
• 49:45
  A size size. It's a size thing but I think
• 49:49
  you can buy a size of Mars Bar which is actually less than 99
• 49:52
  calories. But isn't the snack fun size?
• 49:55
  There is no time but like weight wise is actually more like.
• 49:58
  It's really annoying. It pisses me off quite a lot.
• 50:01
  Yeah, I can understand why that frustrates you.
• 50:04
  I've got a load. It's obviously because we're at
• 50:06
  High Rocks over the weekend, but I've got so many a higher
• 50:09
  specific. One I've got a higher specific
• 50:11
  one as well. My one's one of mine's too
• 50:14
  specific. I don't think I can say that on
• 50:16
  the broadcast. I'm going to save that for our
• 50:18
  foods. That will be for our exclusive.
• 50:20
  OK. Yeah.
• 50:21
  But this one is tough. I don't know if this is I should
• 50:25
  say this, but wearing a hydration vest for high rocks,
• 50:30
  OK. I don't know if that's like an
• 50:31
  irrational thing for me, but I don't.
• 50:35
  I don't agree with that for so many reasons.
• 50:38
  The reason I'm being. Quiet is because I'm going to
• 50:41
  reference one of the listeners who wrote in and said what
• 50:46
  grinds their gears. People getting annoyed about
• 50:48
  what other people wear on their runs.
• 50:50
  Hydration packs of five KS, for example.
• 50:52
  Oh shit. So we we have a bit of a battle
• 50:55
  going on here. I think that people can wear
• 50:58
  what they want. Yes, when they want, yeah.
• 51:00
  So do I. I do also agree in a hierarch
• 51:05
  setting when there are water stations and refuelling stations
• 51:10
  that possibly hydration pack isn't necessary.
• 51:12
  Yeah, for maybe the duration of event as well.
• 51:17
  Yeah, but maybe you should have had a hydration.
• 51:18
  Pack I probably should have done, you know, and that maybe,
• 51:22
  maybe that's the egg on my face. Running with a hydration, you
• 51:24
  could run one thing and wear a hydration pack, whatever.
• 51:27
  You can put your keys in it. You can put your phone in it.
• 51:29
  You don't need any of that for for high rocks.
• 51:32
  You got Bagdrop, man. I think Bagdrop your hydration
• 51:34
  vest. I think you could do, you could
• 51:36
  do all of these things with or without them.
• 51:38
  Yeah, but you could, you could try and do an 8 day ultra
• 51:41
  without anything. I mean, it wouldn't go very
• 51:43
  well, but like you could, but like then you could also do,
• 51:48
  like you said, do 1K with it because it makes sense.
• 51:51
  Yeah, in certain places, like also sometimes I run to places
• 51:54
  as my form of commute. Yeah.
• 51:56
  So I need to need to take your stuff.
• 51:57
  Yeah. In something, yeah.
• 51:58
  So yeah, no. And also.
• 52:00
  Like I get that, like I don't want to be judge mental if it
• 52:02
  makes you do exercise and enjoy the exercise more than that's a
• 52:05
  good thing. But this is grind my gears, so
• 52:08
  that grinds my gears. Do you know, I didn't want to
• 52:11
  say this next one, but now I'm going to.
• 52:13
  You've forced me into a corner. And I think it's kind of funny
• 52:17
  because I we're, we're both now termed Hyroxes as well to do the
• 52:21
  sport. But Hyroxes in general, man,
• 52:24
  they're not cool. No.
• 52:26
  Just the swag they run in the nose tapes the gloves sometimes
• 52:29
  man, like, well what you want, but like.
• 52:33
  The thing is, it's all the same, Yeah.
• 52:35
  And I and there's. So many good photos of me from
• 52:37
  the weekend running past people wearing nose tape as well like
• 52:41
  I'm tapeless. 1. Thing what happened to you?
• 52:44
  This is actually. Really niche because this is
• 52:45
  within the hierarch space, but this is also within the
• 52:50
  understanding of the videography stuff.
• 52:52
  For those who aren't aware. I don't know everyone that I
• 52:55
  film. That's quite common this.
• 52:57
  Is so good. However, as a result of that, I
• 53:01
  do need to know where I can find someone I'm going to film before
• 53:04
  a race. Sometimes I might not have time
• 53:07
  between races. So what I need to know is what
• 53:09
  you look like. I can stalk you on Instagram
• 53:13
  pretty good at recognizing faces, but you do have to
• 53:14
  understand that any one time there could be 1000 people out
• 53:16
  on that track. So I need to know what you're
• 53:19
  wearing. And you don't always look the
• 53:20
  same way as your Instagram. You don't.
• 53:22
  You don't always look the same way, especially when you're in
• 53:23
  the pain game. So I usually say, you know, in
• 53:28
  the non weirdest way possible. Like can you show me what you're
• 53:31
  wearing? I don't say that.
• 53:33
  Have you got a picture of your Have you got a picture of your
• 53:35
  race fit is usually what I go for.
• 53:37
  I feel like that's better. Everyone wears the same thing.
• 53:40
  Everyone wears the same fucking thing.
• 53:43
  It is a brand with some numbers on it.
• 53:46
  Usually there's got in white on a black vest if you're a guy and
• 53:51
  it usually doesn't stay on for more than one run and then black
• 53:54
  shorts. Always black shorts.
• 53:55
  Always black shorts for women it is a little bit more different.
• 53:59
  I feel like there is more choice in your own as world of.
• 54:01
  But you look at any one time on the race track, you've got like
• 54:06
  100 girls wearing the same thing, even though there's lots
• 54:08
  of different fits. That's like, and it's it's
• 54:10
  uncanny that maybe if you've looked out on course at any one
• 54:14
  time, let's say if there's a blue matching set in this
• 54:17
  women's double s, you might be like, oh, OK, I can only see
• 54:20
  five of them. They're all going to be in the
• 54:21
  same wave, guaranteed. And.
• 54:25
  Cut your loss and just film everyone.
• 54:27
  Here's here's a little secret. The number of times I have spent
• 54:30
  two minutes getting all the angles of someone and I've
• 54:33
  actually debated after the race like do I find this person and
• 54:35
  just send it to them because I they might as.
• 54:37
  Well have. Wasted my time filming them
• 54:39
  anyway. Have you ever sent content
• 54:41
  that's of the wrong person to them?
• 54:43
  No. OK, that's good.
• 54:44
  Yeah, that's very professional. Are you very professional?
• 54:47
  Yeah. Although what does happen quite
• 54:50
  a lot is at the start when everyone runs out.
• 54:53
  I have maybe .2 a second to find the.
• 54:56
  Face if they haven't seen you just have like.
• 54:58
  General Cordy But then the number of times, and this has
• 55:01
  happened quite a lot over the last two events where I have
• 55:04
  gone, I've I've filmed the the them generally because I haven't
• 55:07
  seen the face. So I haven't been able to track
• 55:09
  them as they run past me. So I just film it generally and
• 55:11
  I cut it. And as they're going around and
• 55:13
  running this first lap, I have time to look at it and be like,
• 55:14
  where were they? The number of times I've watched
• 55:17
  the video in midnight. They're.
• 55:19
  Not here. Like what, I got 1 back actually
• 55:22
  from Cardiff because I, I filmed it and I knew that he was also
• 55:26
  at the front. So like where did he go?
• 55:29
  He managed to be perfectly behind someone else the entire
• 55:33
  time to the point where the only thing that ever stuck out was
• 55:37
  the bill of his cap behind the head.
• 55:39
  And so I filmed it and I was like, I mean, I'm still going to
• 55:42
  send this to him, but I don't know how he's going to eat it.
• 55:45
  So yeah, Henry, if you listen to this, I'm sorry you are actually
• 55:48
  in that, but you can't be seen. To preface all of that, he
• 55:51
  actually does make some really nice content, so I try.
• 55:53
  He's not just going to point and shoot randomly.
• 55:55
  The content is actually really good.
• 55:57
  Another grimewag is that we had people write in and say, by the
• 55:59
  way, was your attitude. Yeah, we've had a few people say
• 56:03
  your attitude. Grimes.
• 56:04
  They give this, I love it. I think that's why they come
• 56:06
  back. Oh, that's tough.
• 56:09
  Thanks guys. OK.
• 56:11
  Hold on, I've got so many more, but I don't know how long we're
• 56:14
  going to go for. OK, I reckon we should do three
• 56:16
  more each. Oh God.
• 56:20
  OK, you have two. Unless you've.
• 56:22
  Got. Unless you've got three, Really
• 56:24
  no. No, no, I've got.
• 56:25
  One more from this. I'm done all right, but I have
• 56:28
  one that says people who race more than 100 mile ultras and
• 56:33
  then go back to full training after a few days.
• 56:37
  And I'm also going to change that slightly.
• 56:38
  People that run far and go back to strange training.
• 56:41
  Because for a lot of people, running anything like under mile
• 56:43
  ultra might not even be in on the cards, but like even running
• 56:46
  a marathon and then going back to the gym the next day.
• 56:48
  Marathon. Yeah.
• 56:49
  I'm a hypocrite. So I think it's like, it's well
• 56:52
  documented and you can read this online that you should rest a
• 56:56
  day for every mile that you run. Exactly.
• 56:59
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like post half rest 13 days,
• 57:02
  which which seems excessive. And I and I guess it's like
• 57:05
  there's probably levels to it. If you're, I guess you can kind
• 57:09
  of argue this both ways. If you're an elite level
• 57:11
  athlete, you probably have the tolerance and the capacity to
• 57:15
  recover and deal with the volume quicker.
• 57:18
  But because of the output that you have across the race, maybe
• 57:21
  you do need longer to recover. But on the flip side, maybe you
• 57:24
  don't. So it is what it is, maybe 20.
• 57:26
  What is it, 26 miles from marathon?
• 57:29
  Like that seems a lot. 100 days of rest that seem a lot.
• 57:33
  I'd ask that to someone like Will Gouge who's just run across
• 57:36
  Australia. Like how long he's taking to
• 57:38
  recover. Like for sure he's not back in
• 57:40
  the gym right now. And anyone who does an ultra or
• 57:42
  like the guys who run the backyard ultra with BPM the
• 57:45
  other day, that was sick. For sure.
• 57:47
  They've taken some time off. I think I actually saw one of
• 57:49
  them training with Lucy Davies on her story yesterday or
• 57:52
  something. Yeah, he probably hasn't taken
• 57:54
  enough time off, but whatever. Everyone reacts differently.
• 57:56
  But yeah, for sure you're not in the gym the next day.
• 57:59
  And if you are like there should be very little to no intensity.
• 58:02
  I'm like you're skinny, the legs or like you're stretching or
• 58:05
  and. Tiny doesn't really grind my
• 58:07
  gears, but like kind of does is people thinking that rest means
• 58:10
  do nothing. Yeah.
• 58:12
  Because like there's a time in a place, there is a time in a
• 58:14
  place where you actually should do nothing.
• 58:16
  And if we look at me coming off the back of this weekend like
• 58:19
  I'm not training the way I would be, I'm still making sure that
• 58:24
  I'm moving. Because, like, if I grabbed my
• 58:27
  hair, yeah. Well, if I don't, when I, if, I
• 58:29
  mean when we get up from sitting in these chairs, my legs will be
• 58:32
  quite tight. And if I continue to do that,
• 58:35
  they wouldn't really get the improvement of the blood, taking
• 58:38
  away any information which like needs to happen for me to
• 58:40
  actually recover. So if I, if I ran like an ultra
• 58:43
  marathon and then just sat in a chair for four days, I'd be
• 58:47
  probably worse off than if I tried to go up and, you know,
• 58:50
  move around and that sort of thing.
• 58:51
  So like, yeah, rest doesn't necessarily we mean do nothing
• 58:55
  is a grind my Gears of mine. There you go.
• 58:57
  But let me hand over T for oh. God I feel like I'm going to be
• 59:02
  a villain after this race day. Much so.
• 59:06
  Like once you've finished your marathon wearing a marathon
• 59:09
  T-shirt or like everyone walking around in their Hackney half
• 59:12
  T-shirts from whatever. Like 2014 I ran 1/2 marathon.
• 59:16
  Either a 10K. Don't get the race merch man
• 59:18
  that's CrossFit. Can't give out T-shirts for
• 59:21
  competing in CrossFit as well. That's just not a cool T-shirt
• 59:24
  to wear. You're telling me you've never
• 59:26
  worn one of those T-shirts to coach class or anything?
• 59:32
  I realize my mistakes now the. Silence is so deafening.
• 59:36
  I realize my mistakes now. Just I, I like you said, I made
• 59:40
  that mistake so you guys don't have to.
• 59:42
  OK, nice. Very much have.
• 59:43
  You got have you got a last nail in the coffin or?
• 59:46
  I've got like lots of pretty niche ones actually.
• 59:50
  Someone, someone commented on my story, we'll go for this one.
• 59:52
  I will keep it anonymous. And I thought this was quite
• 59:56
  niche. And I don't know whether it
• 59:57
  upsets me that much or not, but when you do RDLS in the gym or
• 1:00:00
  deadlifts in the gym, taking the barbell from the racks into your
• 1:00:04
  hips to start the lift rather than lifting the bar from the
• 1:00:08
  floor. And this person was passionately
• 1:00:10
  upset about the fact that people do that.
• 1:00:13
  OK. Which I guess is niche, and I'll
• 1:00:16
  speak on Hugh's behalf on this one because it's something that
• 1:00:19
  really rattles him as well. It's like part of the reason why
• 1:00:23
  you dead lift is to get the benefit from lifting from the
• 1:00:26
  floor and you're going to go down to the floor and lift it
• 1:00:28
  from the floor anyway. So why don't you just start on
• 1:00:32
  the floor? I maybe understand that it's
• 1:00:34
  easier to load the bar when it's in the air, but.
• 1:00:37
  I don't know, I've done that with audios.
• 1:00:39
  See again this this person was like are the Earls deadlifts
• 1:00:42
  same category go from the full get the benefit for you got long
• 1:00:46
  legs like maybe you get you get a free you.
• 1:00:48
  Know I said I've been dealing with low back fatigue.
• 1:00:50
  I tried to reintroduce deadlifts.
• 1:00:53
  Fuck them really. See for me I took them out years
• 1:00:56
  ago because of the problems they just caused.
• 1:00:57
  And like I can get to a relative level of strength, but the
• 1:01:00
  relative amount of fatigue it does when I should could just do
• 1:01:03
  something else or just stick to like hex bar track bar deadlift
• 1:01:06
  instead, which isn't quite the same.
• 1:01:09
  In terms of the hinging, it's similar, but it's more of like a
• 1:01:10
  civil. Anyone judges me from being a
• 1:01:13
  poor coach? Like maybe like Angus is
• 1:01:16
  hilariously tall. Like we've discussed this
• 1:01:18
  before, like his leg length is ridiculous.
• 1:01:21
  So it's like, I can understand why, but maybe maybe I need to
• 1:01:24
  look at your technique or you play around with like a wider
• 1:01:27
  stance. So it's like a sumo date.
• 1:01:29
  This is the thing I I tried to move more towards like a sumo
• 1:01:32
  stance because yes, I'm tall, but I'm also not like perfectly
• 1:01:36
  proportionately tall. So like I have very long legs
• 1:01:39
  and one of the issues is my shin length, if you haven't seen is
• 1:01:44
  like quite long. So for me to actually pull a bar
• 1:01:47
  in an ideal world I would be pulling it through my knee.
• 1:01:50
  But because that can't happen my my leg has to straighten first,
• 1:01:53
  which then means there's so much load through my lower back that.
• 1:01:56
  I do think you probably get like more bang from your butt from
• 1:01:59
  other exercises and like the risk reward is probably not
• 1:02:02
  right. That's it.
• 1:02:02
  Yeah, and I think that enough I've kind of come down to
• 1:02:04
  because otherwise, yeah, my love, I've never, so I've never
• 1:02:07
  chastised dead lifting. No, not not widespread.
• 1:02:09
  Yeah, but just for me specifically, like I do struggle
• 1:02:12
  with it. And if you want to take a look
• 1:02:13
  and you can just look and agree and be like, yeah, that's fine.
• 1:02:16
  Yeah, you're completely right. Then that's all good.
• 1:02:19
  Well round off ground like is there guys?
• 1:02:21
  If you've got more and you want to be more involved in future,
• 1:02:23
  then we can definitely make sure that you guys are heard as much
• 1:02:27
  as we are when we do this. I need to know these people
• 1:02:30
  calling me out of my bad attitude.
• 1:02:31
  There's no way I'm going to really reveal over it was just
• 1:02:34
  me three times. I'm joking.
• 1:02:36
  However, we're gonna move on to what is more towards the end of
• 1:02:40
  these podcasts in a normal sort of format, and we're gonna move
• 1:02:43
  on to the Rock Sport Quiz. Well, it's not quiz this week.
• 1:02:48
  You mixed it up last time, and we liked that.
• 1:02:52
  We liked the variety in games. We have a couple of choices in
• 1:02:56
  game. OK, you're aware of the how many
• 1:02:59
  can you name game And you're also aware of 21 questions, but
• 1:03:03
  I'll leave it to you. Which one would you rather play?
• 1:03:05
  I think I want to play the and this is such a stupid decision.
• 1:03:09
  I want to play. How many can you name?
• 1:03:11
  OK, so in this game, ladies and gentlemen, what we're going.
• 1:03:16
  To do Brain dead, I'm going to go.
• 1:03:17
  Is we're going to have a topic and we're going to keep these
• 1:03:20
  relative to the fitness space, but there's going to be a topic
• 1:03:25
  and it's going to be how many of something can you name?
• 1:03:29
  We're then going to go back and forth about how many of those
• 1:03:31
  things we reckon we can name. And you've got to say a number
• 1:03:34
  and then at some point you're going to call bullshit on the
• 1:03:37
  other person. So I could say name, number,
• 1:03:40
  name a number of protein powder flavors.
• 1:03:44
  Charles could say I can name 5:00.
• 1:03:45
  I could say I can definitely name 8.
• 1:03:47
  You might say, do you know I can name 25 and I'm going to say
• 1:03:50
  bullshit. Once I say bullshit, Charles has
• 1:03:53
  a minute from then to start naming that number of flavours.
• 1:03:56
  If he can do it, he gets point, if he can't, I get.
• 1:03:58
  That would have been an easy one.
• 1:04:00
  You've seen the My Protein list. OK, they have every flavour.
• 1:04:03
  OK, The thing is with that I need to get it out to check if
• 1:04:06
  you do it so you have one minute to name as many as possible.
• 1:04:09
  Guys, if you're listening to this, feel free to play along.
• 1:04:12
  1st I'm going to get a timer ready because I'm going to need.
• 1:04:15
  And you have some, you have some topics.
• 1:04:18
  I have some topics. Yeah feel free you can.
• 1:04:20
  You can also suggest topic if you feel like these are two one
• 1:04:22
  sided. OK, let me get.
• 1:04:30
  Yeah, I've seen this done so many times before, whether it's
• 1:04:32
  YouTube, TikTok and you sit there watching it and you go,
• 1:04:36
  God, these guys are idiots. How can they not think of
• 1:04:38
  anything but when you're in that the high pressure situation
• 1:04:42
  behind the camera or in front of the camera?
• 1:04:45
  Number one, Oh no, is running shoe brands.
• 1:04:49
  How many can you name? 7.
• 1:04:54
  I reckon I can name 9. Yeah, Bullshit.
• 1:05:01
  Go. OK, go.
• 1:05:03
  Adidas, Nike, Saucony Rad Nice Zara.
• 1:05:10
  OK, it's so nice. Puma, Schlazinger.
• 1:05:14
  I've got what, two more I need? I think that's seven so far.
• 1:05:16
  I've got 46 seconds. I'm chilling.
• 1:05:21
  Damn. See, this is what happened
• 1:05:24
  because I've got loads in my head now.
• 1:05:26
  I easily could have done that. I've got loads.
• 1:05:29
  What else is there? Why is this so tough 30?
• 1:05:32
  Seconds. 30. Seconds is pretty mad.
• 1:05:34
  Everyone's screaming at you at home.
• 1:05:36
  Yeah, everyone's screaming. There's so many easy ones.
• 1:05:38
  It isn't mad. How?
• 1:05:39
  How blank your mind goes. Whatever.
• 1:05:41
  Oh, Reebok. One more and Jordan?
• 1:05:48
  Shut up. No way.
• 1:05:49
  Fuck, that's Mikey running shoes.
• 1:05:55
  Jordans, Come on, five seconds. Why did I not say a OK, I can't
• 1:06:01
  go on. What would you have said?
• 1:06:02
  Brooks Mizuno. No.
• 1:06:04
  Leaning. Leaning.
• 1:06:06
  Yeah, it's a Chinese brand. Oh yeah.
• 1:06:09
  Come on, babe. OK, right.
• 1:06:10
  One point to you 1.2 OK that. Was good.
• 1:06:13
  So the next one is cable equipment in a gym.
• 1:06:22
  Cable machines like their actual name as well.
• 1:06:25
  Like you can't just give them a name of what you call them.
• 1:06:29
  I'm going to say 5. 7. Oh, I don't want to make myself
• 1:06:42
  look like an idiot. Bullshit, bullshit.
• 1:06:45
  OK, so we've got the lap pulled down, Yeah.
• 1:06:47
  That was going to be my first one as well.
• 1:06:49
  We've. Got the PEC deck, We've got the
• 1:06:50
  seated row tricep push down. Yeah.
• 1:06:56
  How many did you say? 7?
• 1:06:57
  I said 7, what am I at? 4 what else?
• 1:07:04
  Well, you've got the standard like cable machine which is just
• 1:07:07
  like the cable area. But can I just name exercises
• 1:07:10
  off that I rear delt flies? Well, you're naming exercises.
• 1:07:14
  You're not naming machines. Yeah, it's a tricep push down
• 1:07:18
  screen. That one from the, the, the,
• 1:07:20
  the, the chest fly. Yeah.
• 1:07:24
  Where you put your elbows on it and you pull them together.
• 1:07:26
  That's using cables, shoulder press.
• 1:07:28
  There's a cable version of that. Shut up.
• 1:07:30
  Is that? Yeah.
• 1:07:31
  Oh, what? Like, Oh, OK.
• 1:07:32
  Fly. Yeah.
• 1:07:32
  Let's see one more. I think one more.
• 1:07:37
  Yeah, I don't. Think shoulder fly machine as
• 1:07:40
  well. Yeah, there's the one.
• 1:07:42
  Yeah, Yeah, I do. There you.
• 1:07:43
  Go 7 Done all right, one point to you one all.
• 1:07:47
  OK, hold on, right? The next one we've got is
• 1:07:53
  Premier League winning teams. I hate football. 6 88 they're
• 1:08:09
  sure. He hasn't even been that many.
• 1:08:11
  Winning the Premier League 100%. It's like monopolized by like
• 1:08:15
  3-4 teams but I I don't know how am I going to verify this.
• 1:08:21
  I mean, you can look it up when you're fighting if you want.
• 1:08:23
  All right, yeah, I'm calling call bullshit.
• 1:08:25
  Yeah, wait before you test. My yeah, basically, yeah.
• 1:08:30
  Hang on, hang. On I think I can do this.
• 1:08:33
  Because like, I can probably get, yeah, I don't know.
• 1:08:38
  And you're going to have to bear with us if you're not watching
• 1:08:40
  this on YouTube, but I'd highly recommend watching this on
• 1:08:42
  YouTube. I feel like I'm getting a bit of
• 1:08:44
  advantage here. I'll I'll change it to 50
• 1:08:46
  seconds because I am currently thinking about it.
• 1:08:50
  Yeah, OK, let's go whenever you're ready.
• 1:08:57
  OK, 321 go. Manchester United, Manchester
• 1:09:00
  City, Arsenal, Liverpool. Yeah, Chelsea.
• 1:09:08
  What are you on? I've lost count.
• 1:09:10
  I think that's fine on a multitask.
• 1:09:12
  Leicester. Oh this is so good.
• 1:09:18
  I think West Ham have won it. OK, they haven't.
• 1:09:22
  Oh. Shit, Leeds.
• 1:09:27
  Leeds City No. I was actually going to say this
• 1:09:30
  in my head. When you're you're done, you're
• 1:09:32
  done mate. You can't.
• 1:09:33
  You cannot even win this because you are wrong really.
• 1:09:37
  Yeah. How many have there been?
• 1:09:38
  Seven. Fuck yeah.
• 1:09:40
  And I've got six of them. Yeah.
• 1:09:45
  Damn who? Who else was it?
• 1:09:46
  I feel like it was an old school that used to be good, like
• 1:09:50
  Wimbledon or something like that.
• 1:09:51
  Blackburn Rovers. Fuck, I thought it became with
• 1:09:53
  AB. So man, you have won it 13
• 1:09:56
  times, City have won it 8 times, Chelsea 5, Arsenal 3, Liverpool
• 1:10:01
  twice, Rovers once and less the ones.
• 1:10:04
  Damn. OK, well I'm still.
• 1:10:06
  What did I say? I mean you.
• 1:10:08
  Win, you win, you're 3. Nil, you're 21, you're 21.
• 1:10:13
  OK, All right, let's reset this to one minute.
• 1:10:18
  OK, The do you want to? Have you got a category that you
• 1:10:21
  want to? Suggest you bring them.
• 1:10:22
  OK, you bring them. Fitness apparel brands.
• 1:10:26
  Oh, OK, well, 15. Bull ships right off.
• 1:10:34
  No way. The thing is, it's not.
• 1:10:36
  It's not even that I don't think you can name 15 is that.
• 1:10:38
  I think you get to 11 and storm. Yeah.
• 1:10:40
  OK, Ready. Go.
• 1:10:42
  Nike, Adidas, Puma, Reebok 247 represent rad Make apparel. 6.
• 1:10:54
  Oh no, Slazenger, I'm just taking ones from your body.
• 1:11:01
  Shoes on the shoes. Gym Shark, Sweaty Betty,
• 1:11:10
  Lululemon. What's that 10?
• 1:11:12
  Five more. I'm thinking. 25 seconds.
• 1:11:18
  What's that one? Phabletics, Sony, come on, come
• 1:11:24
  on, go skins, skins, whatever. I'm taking skins.
• 1:11:27
  Shot 10 seconds to get 30. Lads, come on, feel better than
• 1:11:34
  this. It's like, no, I quit, I give
• 1:11:39
  up. There's definitely some more in
• 1:11:42
  the in the brain somewhere. Didn't go for my protein.
• 1:11:45
  I thought that was another obvious, OK, we've got we could,
• 1:11:49
  we can do one more that I have noted, OK or we can do two more
• 1:11:53
  because I've kind of come up with another one.
• 1:11:55
  Let's do two more because I 100% know that no one's listening at
• 1:11:58
  this point. So this is more for
• 1:12:01
  entertainment, OK? I'm sorry I let you guys down on
• 1:12:04
  that one. Formula One drivers that have
• 1:12:07
  won a race. Oh, OK, Ever.
• 1:12:14
  Ever. Again, we're going to have to
• 1:12:16
  pull these up. I don't know.
• 1:12:21
  I thought my knowledge is very good.
• 1:12:26
  Can I say 8? I say 10.
• 1:12:33
  I was going to go in hot with 10 as well, so I'm going to, I'm
• 1:12:37
  going to go for 12. I guess there's like this is
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  similar to the Premier League, like there's they can't be that
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  many. Actually, I want to see you name
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  12. All right?
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  I think I can name 12. I think I can name more than
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  that, but I, I want to see you do it right.
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  I, I feel like it's safe for me to challenge you to do that and
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  for me to do more. Here we go.
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  Ready. Yeah, Vettel, Webber,
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  Verstappen, Kimi Raikkonen, Great.
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  David Coulthard. He's won Monaco twice.
• 1:13:11
  I found that out recently. Ayrton Senna, Damon Hill, Lewis
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  Hamilton, Charles Leclerc, Carlos Signs.
• 1:13:22
  Two more. Yeah.
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  Pierre Gasly. Has he?
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  Esteban Ocon. He won. 12 He's smashed it in
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  32nd Keep going. No one knew that I was such a
• 1:13:34
  hardcore F1 fan. OK, that one's, that one's.
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  That one is dedicated to my dad. He'll be so proud of me.
• 1:13:41
  He'll be so proud of me. OK.
• 1:13:44
  The last one, yeah. Olympic cities that have hosted
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  or cities that have hosted the Olympic Games.
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  Again, there can't be that many people think there's more than
• 1:13:52
  there are, OK? I might have.
• 1:13:55
  This is one that I thought, OK, so we'll have to check this.
• 1:13:57
  All right. How many are you saying?
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  And do we open this up to Winter Olympic Games as well?
• 1:14:04
  No, OK, just Summer Olympics. I've been burned too many times
• 1:14:07
  in these quizzes by the Winter Olympics.
• 1:14:09
  My knowledge is so poor. Again, there can only be so
• 1:14:13
  many. I'm going to go in.
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  I'll start with, I reckon, 10. That's 40 years worth of
• 1:14:21
  Olympics. Yeah.
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  I mean, when you put it like that.
• 1:14:24
  I'm going to say bullshit, quite simply.
• 1:14:28
  OK, right, Where's my timer? Gone.
• 1:14:31
  I hate this. OK, Ready.
• 1:14:32
  Yeah. Go.
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  London. Sydney, Beijing.
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  Berlin. Los Angeles.
• 1:14:42
  Atlanta. Paris, Athens.
• 1:14:53
  That's like 32 years worth, yeah.
• 1:14:55
  You've actually done really well so far.
• 1:14:57
  Hang on, hang on. Hang on.
• 1:15:01
  There must have been another one in Australia.
• 1:15:06
  What? I say Sydney.
• 1:15:07
  Yeah. Melbourne.
• 1:15:11
  I don't know. That doesn't sound right.
• 1:15:16
  Not South Africa. That would have been a pluck.
• 1:15:20
  Stockholm. The Stockholm Olympics ringing a
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  bell for some reason. Sure.
• 1:15:26
  What's that's? That's like a convoluted 10.
• 1:15:30
  Yeah, I'm pretty. OK, so your time has run out.
• 1:15:34
  OK, great. We'll check Stockholm.
• 1:15:37
  That for sure is right. It's going to be like.
• 1:15:40
  Olympic Games. Stockholm Olympics.
• 1:15:44
  Wow. The Summer Olympics were held in
• 1:15:46
  Stockholm, Sweden between the 6th of July and 22nd of July in
• 1:15:49
  1912. Great knowledge.
• 1:15:52
  Yeah, it was. Huge and Mike was checking
• 1:15:54
  Melbourne. Melbourne.
• 1:15:56
  I don't think it's worth checking.
• 1:15:59
  Olympics and then, then. We'll check how many cities have
• 1:16:02
  actually hosted the Olympics. Melbourne Olympics 1956 I was
• 1:16:06
  also thinking you didn't say Barcelona.
• 1:16:07
  Oh, I said Madrid. Barcelona would make it.
• 1:16:10
  No, I don't even think I said Madrid.
• 1:16:13
  I don't think there's there been a Madrid Olympics.
• 1:16:16
  I don't know but I thought. I think, I don't think, I said
• 1:16:18
  Madrid. Run the tape.
• 1:16:19
  Yeah, I don't. Know how many How many Olympics
• 1:16:21
  cities have associated cities host?
• 1:16:25
  This list we don't have Hugh usually have you guys have grown
• 1:16:31
  accustomed to and loved having to help us out with.
• 1:16:34
  This isn't here today so I'm having to dual wield a
• 1:16:36
  microphone and list of cities. This is the content you all came
• 1:16:44
  for. God, I'm just staring at a
• 1:16:46
  screen of Wikipedia. There are loads.
• 1:16:49
  Oh really? So we've got.
• 1:16:50
  More than 12 Athens, Paris. Saint Louis, which actually you
• 1:16:55
  meant oh, no, the the Los Angeles is still there.
• 1:16:58
  London, Stockholm, Berlin, Antwerp, Paris.
• 1:17:03
  I've already said lots have been multiple.
• 1:17:05
  Amsterdam. Oh.
• 1:17:07
  Lake Placid. Was that the Winter Olympic
• 1:17:09
  Games? Maybe?
• 1:17:11
  Tokyo, Oh. Come on, Charles.
• 1:17:14
  That was a that was a lockdown. Yeah, eradicated that from my
• 1:17:17
  memory. Stockholm in Mexico City, OH,
• 1:17:23
  Munich. I'm better than this.
• 1:17:25
  Toronto is that winter as well. Some of these might be winter,
• 1:17:31
  this isn't. I'm looking at start to know
• 1:17:35
  Rio, forgot about Rio, Brisbane, Salt Lake City again.
• 1:17:41
  I think the Salt Lake City was Winter Olympics, but to be fair.
• 1:17:44
  I was like. You got very well.
• 1:17:45
  I got a fair for you. I'm not mad about it.
• 1:17:47
  I'm not mad about it. Yeah, you should be proud of
• 1:17:49
  that, and I think that means that you won.
• 1:17:51
  Overall, OK, I'll take that. Well, huge, yeah.
• 1:17:54
  So we can, we can do 21 questions or we can bring that
• 1:17:57
  back or the blind ranking that you brought last.
• 1:18:00
  That was fun. We can.
• 1:18:01
  Enjoy that one. The tick tock algorithm like
• 1:18:04
  that one as well. Tick tock algorithm.
• 1:18:05
  Wow. We both, we both were in that
• 1:18:08
  one. I was just going to glaze over
• 1:18:09
  it, but. Well guys, thank you very much
• 1:18:12
  for listening to this episode. Apologies for the slight hiatus.
• 1:18:16
  I think in theory now things will die down a little bit with
• 1:18:19
  the hierarchies and our race calendars being empty and we are
• 1:18:23
  talking about how we can grow this thing bigger and better.
• 1:18:25
  So if you guys have got suggestions, do let us know if
• 1:18:28
  you want to get involved somehow.
• 1:18:30
  Again, those DMS are open replies to the stories.
• 1:18:32
  Everything like that. Anything else from you?
• 1:18:36
  I think we got through way too much, way more than the people
• 1:18:39
  wanted to listen to. So again, give your ears a rest.
• 1:18:43
  You should made it this far. You should rest one day for
• 1:18:47
  every episode that you listen to.
• 1:18:50
  And we will be back very, very soon with another episode.
• 1:18:54
  So with that Charles, I'll see you soon you guys.
• 1:18:57
  I look forward to seeing you in the next episode.