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The Sugar Addiction and Its Impact on Menopause with Tanya Willis · The Menopause Disruptor Podcast

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  Tanya Willis: the aha moments for me are to lean into curiosity, lean into compassion, lean in to being non judgmental of yourself and others, and then the aha moment will come because you've laid the foundation, you've nurtured your soil, you've planted the seeds, and then the water comes.
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  Tanya Willis: And this is what I was talking about with You will get into a flow.
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  Mary Lee: Welcome back my listeners to another great episode of all things menopausal.
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  Mary Lee: If you're returning listener, thank you.
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  Mary Lee: Thank you so much.
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  Mary Lee: And if you're new to this podcast, I'll sit back and enjoy.
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  Mary Lee: we will hear from guest experts in the field of menopause and women's health and wellness and my goal is that you will get information and knowledge that will power you through your menopause journey.
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  Mary Lee: In this episode I have the delightful pleasure of sitting down with Tanya Willis, a fellow podcaster on the topic of menopause as well, and she is a seasoned health, fitness, and wellness coach with over three decades of experience.
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  Mary Lee: Her podcast, Menopause Made Easy, is yet another insightful platform to bring stories out into the open and keep the conversation about our transition going without the fear, shame, confusion, or misinformation.
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  Mary Lee: Together, we take a deeper look at the complexities of menopause, coaching, and the power of using one's voice to connect with clients through podcasting.
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  Mary Lee: Tanya shares her journey of overcoming sugar addiction, exploring the vital roles of movement, mindset, nutrition, and holistic wellness.
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  Mary Lee: This conversation also touches on overcoming obstacles, the importance of curiosity and compassion, and the benefits of having a coach.
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  Mary Lee: Tanya emphasizes The significance of community and continuous learning in achieving a vibrant, energetic life.
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  Mary Lee: Stick around for an enlightening discussion filled with practical insights and inspiring stories.
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  Mary Lee: But before we begin, here's something you should know about Tanya.
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  Mary Lee: She is a wife, mom, and dog lover.
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  Mary Lee: Tanya combines 32 years of working as a personal trainer, fitness, Pilates, yoga, and rolling instructor.
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  Mary Lee: She's Nutrition coach, behavior change specialist, pain free specialist, sleep stress management and recovery coach, and the author of the book, Cookie Dough in the Dark.
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  Mary Lee: And she's the founder of Vibrant Living Programs, with a lot of experience working with clients.
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  Mary Lee: Her mission is to continue to help women step into the body they want, to feel confident and sexy and in control of their food choices and have their clothes fit just as they should while having the energy to live a vibrant life, Let's get to it.
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  Mary Lee: Okay.
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  Mary Lee: listeners, you don't know what went on behind the scenes before we hit record.
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  Mary Lee: So I'm going to give you the skinny Tanya and I are both in the same area, the same arena in terms of menopause coaching, but Tanya, you've been at this for.
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  Mary Lee: A very long time.
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  Mary Lee: And you're going to tell us more.
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  Mary Lee: We were talking about this world of digital course delivery, and just the nuances of trying to crack that nut.
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  Mary Lee: And then we started to understand, and this is why it resonates so well with you, we realized that it is the power of our voice that really helps us connect more intimately with our, customers, our prospects, our people, and that the podcasting world, which you have the power to do.
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  Mary Lee: Beautiful podcast menopause made easy.
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  Mary Lee: This is where we are really going to be able to shine to draw on those people so that they can have that more intimate relationship, which is what we learned with Kathy Heller's podcasting your turn to podcast course, but we both agree.
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  Mary Lee: That it's that social media space that is just driving us crazy because could you imagine before social media, if we wanted to have like our sandwich boards outside of our studio to come in and try our program, or we had our billboard signs, or even the name on the door.
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  Mary Lee: But you had to pay an entity to take off like a black curtain so that somebody could actually see the words on the sandwich board or see the title on your building.
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  Mary Lee: That's what it feels like in social media.
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  Mary Lee: It feels like if you're not paying more money to have advertisements, nobody sees you.
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  Mary Lee: And so to heck with that, let's tell our story on podcasting and that's why you're here, Tanya.
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  Mary Lee: So thank you.
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  Mary Lee: That was a bit of a preamble, but I'm setting the stage.
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  Mary Lee: Tell us all about who you are, what you do and why you do it.
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  Tanya Willis: Okay.
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  Tanya Willis: So my name is Tanya Willis.
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  Tanya Willis: Thank you so much for having me on your podcast.
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  Tanya Willis: I have been in the health and fitness and wellness space for the last 32 years and let's just call it over three decades.
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  Tanya Willis: And I just have.
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  Tanya Willis: I walk the talk, first of all.
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  Tanya Willis: So I have a passion for women in there.
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  Tanya Willis: It's so menopause starts around the age of 35.
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  Tanya Willis: This process starts to happen and it completely blindsides us.
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  Tanya Willis: So part of my passion is to educate women with what I've gone through, with what I've learned now that I'm in my mid fifties.
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  Tanya Willis: Just tell it like it is.
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  Tanya Willis: I'm authentic, I'm vulnerable, I'm real.
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  Tanya Willis: And just getting to really putting at peace and stopping some overwhelm about what's going on in women's lives.
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  Tanya Willis: And I focus on movement mindset and nutrition because I believe that we are a whole being, we are a whole being.
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  Tanya Willis: And so we need to look at those different elements and then you can go, of course deeper.
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  Tanya Willis: But.
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  Tanya Willis: I also come from the background of, I wrote a book called cookie dough in the dark, because I had a sugar addiction for about three decades, and I was always trying to get to the top of the mountain and heal myself in a day, or a week, or maybe a month.
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  Tanya Willis: But what I didn't understand, which is what I teach is all the tools and all the skills that need to go behind that.
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  Tanya Willis: So if anybody overeats sugar or drinks too much alcohol or is not coping with stress properly or using it as a distraction and I really, I've been in the trenches and I get that what people are going through.
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  Tanya Willis: And I've come out the other side and I say to people, I still eat sugar.
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  Tanya Willis: I still eat sugar, but it doesn't control me the way it used to.
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  Tanya Willis: And just to clarify, because people get stuck on this point, when I'm talking about eating sugar, I'm not talking about standing at a sugar bowl and just like spooning sugar into my mouth.
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  Tanya Willis: Yeah.
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  Tanya Willis: Sugar's in everything.
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  Tanya Willis: It's just about in everything.
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  Tanya Willis: It's, In all our ultra processed food, it's, there's more of it in are just, it's just hard to avoid.
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  Tanya Willis: And then you have your pastas, your baked goods, your potato chips, your alcohol, and those cause we, we all know carbs, fats, proteins.
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  Tanya Willis: So we're really focusing on those simple carbohydrates.
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  Tanya Willis: So I really come to my audience with such a deep understanding of how to navigate.
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  Tanya Willis: It's emotional eating, habitual eating, chemical sugar addiction, all that kind of stuff.
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  Tanya Willis: And I put in a pretty little bow and then I help everybody.
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  Tanya Willis: That
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  Mary Lee: is so fantastic.
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  Mary Lee: And you hinted at this, we always arrive at our destiny, that vocation or that one purpose in life that gives us so much fulfillment, but to get there, it's always a tough journey.
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  Mary Lee: We go through many iterations, many versions of ourselves.
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  Mary Lee: We have failures and mistakes and then we succeed.
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  Mary Lee: But all the while we're learning something about ourselves for those pain points so that we can resonate with our clients, with the people that we want to serve.
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  Mary Lee: So I would like to hear a little bit more about your backstory.
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  Mary Lee: What really got you on this personal journey?
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  Mary Lee: You talked about the sugar cravings.
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  Mary Lee: What.
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  Mary Lee: What was it that happened in your life that made you realize there was a better way?
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  Tanya Willis: You asked me what my favorite book was and it's called Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself.
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  Tanya Willis: And basically We are only aware of what we're aware of.
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  Tanya Willis: And so when I was stuck in my sugar addiction, let's just call it that, overeating sugar, I did not know how to act differently when I was stressed.
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  Tanya Willis: When I was emotional because I had built a habit, a very strong habit that when I felt a certain way, I did this action.
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  Tanya Willis: stopping a sugar addiction or any addiction for that matter, maybe it's not even addiction.
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  Tanya Willis: even if you're just eating more than you want, or you can't start exercising or whatever it is.
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  Tanya Willis: It can be little, it can be small.
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  Tanya Willis: One thing that I've learned is your ego is trying to keep you safe.
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  Tanya Willis: So that is a skill and a tool you need to learn.
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  Tanya Willis: You need to understand your ego.
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  Tanya Willis: You need to understand your prefrontal cortex versus your amygdala.
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  Tanya Willis: So you, when you understand that, and these are the things I teach, now you are armed with, it's not me, right?
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  Tanya Willis: It's my ego is trying to keep me safe.
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  Tanya Willis: So when I was small, for example.
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  Tanya Willis: And somehow this became a habit that when I felt uncomfortable, I would use food.
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  Tanya Willis: So then you keep doing this, you keep doing this, and it reinforces.
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  Tanya Willis: So when your body feels uncomfortable, you go to food, or maybe you go to alcohol or maybe you smoke or whatever.
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  Tanya Willis: Okay.
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  Tanya Willis: And you're not aware of that on a level until you choose to be aware of it.
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  Tanya Willis: And you're not aware of it until you stop lying to yourself, which I spent many years trying to convince myself that the symptoms I was feeling were not connected to my overeating.
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  Tanya Willis: And then this is why my book, Cookie Dough in the Dark, A Journey to Vibrant Living.
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  Tanya Willis: It became a journey and I, and in that moment I had a mindset shift of this isn't a day, this isn't even about the food.
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  Tanya Willis: This is, has nothing to do about the food.
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  Tanya Willis: This is about the journey to me of inner healing.
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  Tanya Willis: So it's not external.
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  Tanya Willis: And we tend to look external, and that's why a lot of people get attached to diets and food.
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  Tanya Willis: And when you're willing to take a step back and go a little bit deeper.
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  Tanya Willis: You understand that there's some healing that needs to happen inside of you.
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  Tanya Willis: There's some awareness, there's some truth, there's some curiosity, there's some compassion, there's non judgmental.
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  Tanya Willis: And so when I started to invite these mindset tools in and understand how my body, my mind was trying to keep me safe, then you can begin to start unwinding and unraveling.
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  Tanya Willis: And that's what I started to do about in my early 30s.
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  Tanya Willis: So that, that was life changing for me.
• 11:50
  Mary Lee: Amazing.
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  Mary Lee: It is.
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  Mary Lee: It's like overriding that inner narrative, that old thought pattern because the brain has been wired to take the easy pathway and it takes that pathway because we've made it, we've created it over several years.
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  Mary Lee: You alluded to that.
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  Mary Lee: We come into the world with a concept of what is perfect.
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  Mary Lee: Talk about it.
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  Mary Lee: It's identified on your website too.
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  Mary Lee: Like we want to be this perfectly thin or fit or we get so frustrated.
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  Mary Lee: We have this idea of what health is the quick fix.
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  Mary Lee: Like you said, one day, if I have this one green drink, I'll be perfect and everything is fine.
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  Mary Lee: But it's that wisdom that comes with age that helps us understand.
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  Mary Lee: We have the ability to override.
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  Mary Lee: And going into that mindset.
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  Tanya Willis: Yeah, and I think it's also, you really have to decide what you want.
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  Tanya Willis: And then you need to find somebody to keep you on that path.
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  Tanya Willis: And that's why coaching is so valuable.
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  Tanya Willis: Because it stops you from going to the shiny stars.
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  Tanya Willis: And it keeps you on track because I didn't get a sugar addiction or a habitual eating issue in 10 days.
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  Tanya Willis: It took me years to develop.
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  Tanya Willis: And one thing, just to put this in a context, it's you remember when you first started to drive?
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  Tanya Willis: And I, drove a stick shift, a manual until up until last year because I can't get them anymore.
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  Tanya Willis: They're harder to find.
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  Tanya Willis: But whenever you're learning to drive remember how you're like, You have to pay attention like all the time.
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  Tanya Willis: Like I got to go into first, I got to put the clutch down.
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  Tanya Willis: I got to do this.
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  Tanya Willis: I got to do that.
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  Tanya Willis: And then you drive to work and you're like, which way am I going?
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  Tanya Willis: All these things, it takes so much energy.
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  Tanya Willis: And now we've been driving, say even after five years and you get to work and you go, how did I get here?
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  Tanya Willis: You don't have to think about how to drive.
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  Tanya Willis: You don't have to think about where you're going.
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  Tanya Willis: And so your habits become like that.
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  Tanya Willis: And so you think you're in control, but you're not in control, right?
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  Tanya Willis: And it's until you can step back.
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  Tanya Willis: And I always say, be the observer of yourself, watch a movie of yourself until you can step back.
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  Tanya Willis: And watch yourself.
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  Tanya Willis: That is the first step that, that needs to be done because then you can come up with a plan to do the next thing and the next thing.
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  Tanya Willis: So it, you have to be willing to be patient and give yourself some time, but once you get in the flow, it's actually amazing how quickly it can start to happen.
• 14:32
  Mary Lee: Fantastic.
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  Mary Lee: The first time I heard about the awareness concept of being more aware of.
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  Mary Lee: You being the observer going inward, of course, in yoga, we talk about that with the introspective benefits of yoga, where you actually are, you're doing the pose, but in reality, it's taking you inward to, to feel into the body.
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  Mary Lee: But it was sad guru, who has the Isha Kriya meditation and the Isla Foundation.
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  Mary Lee: And it was one of his courses that he had offered, and I stumbled across it during the pandemic.
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  Mary Lee: And he was offering it for free for anybody who was first responders about managing stress.
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  Mary Lee: I think it was maybe 75 for anybody else who was not a first responder, but I desperately wanted to go inward more and deal with the stresses that were going on around us.
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  Mary Lee: And that was the first time I had that aha moment with the awareness.
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  Mary Lee: I'd heard the, greats like Dr.
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  Mary Lee: Joe Dispenza, Eckhart Tolle, even Oprah Winfrey speak about this Deepak Chopra, but it was sad guru, that light bulb moment, that inner awareness and the wisdom that comes with it.
• 15:52
  Mary Lee: What was your aha moment?
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  Tanya Willis: Oh you know what?
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  Tanya Willis: I think I, I personally think that what you just said, when you hear something from somebody else, it plants a seed.
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  Tanya Willis: Okay.
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  Tanya Willis: And you might not be ready to water it.
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  Tanya Willis: So you might've heard messages from Eckhart.
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  Tanya Willis: You might've heard from Joe Dispenza, from Oprah, from all of these.
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  Tanya Willis: And that was when the water started, but you were already planting the seeds.
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  Tanya Willis: the aha moments for me are to lean into curiosity, lean into compassion, lean in to being non judgmental of yourself and others, and then the aha moment will come because you've laid the foundation, you've nurtured your soil, you've planted the seeds, and then the water comes.
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  Tanya Willis: You will get into a flow.
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  Tanya Willis: You don't go to your garden and plant a lettuce seed and go out tomorrow and there's lettuce.
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  Tanya Willis: Okay, you plant the seed.
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  Tanya Willis: So say you plant 100, 100 seeds and a bird eats some of them some of them may be washed away with the rainwater.
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  Tanya Willis: And but you keep going out there and you keep tending your garden.
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  Tanya Willis: Okay.
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  Tanya Willis: And then all of a sudden you're like, there's A sprout coming up and that's what I think the aha moment is.
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  Tanya Willis: I don't, for me, it's not one thing.
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  Tanya Willis: It's the journey of the things and am I allowing myself to expand and open up and be curious to allow myself to nurture and, have that stuff grow within me.
• 17:29
  Mary Lee: Wow.
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  Mary Lee: So well said, beautiful.
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  Mary Lee: with your behavior change, therapists or specialists.
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  Mary Lee: And I'm just curious about this background when your clients, your prospects come to you and you're working with them.
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  Mary Lee: are you seeing common barriers amongst them that are still, their obstacles that they have to overcome?
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  Tanya Willis: Yes.
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  Tanya Willis: So we all have obstacles, right?
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  Tanya Willis: So I'm not perfect.
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  Tanya Willis: I still have obstacles I'm working on.
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  Tanya Willis: But when you do, and again, this is the benefit of working with a coach will see just by the way you use words.
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  Tanya Willis: Words are very powerful when they tell their story.
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  Tanya Willis: So what my approach is with clients is we're collecting data.
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  Tanya Willis: That's all we're doing.
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  Tanya Willis: We're collecting data about where you are, where you want to go, and we're going to practice.
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  Tanya Willis: And we're going to practice and we are not linear beings just because I do something today does not mean I'm going to be doing that a year from now.
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  Tanya Willis: And everybody was asking me, Tonya, are you going to write another book?
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  Tanya Willis: And I said, no, I'm going to do a podcast.
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  Tanya Willis: The podcast is fluid.
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  Tanya Willis: A book, which I'm very proud of my book, and it really captures and it's been very helpful for people.
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  Tanya Willis: It captures a moment of my life.
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  Tanya Willis: When I was that age and stage.
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  Tanya Willis: And so a podcast is where I can say and update information.
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  Tanya Willis: Now, some of it that I talk about my book, like beliefs, that doesn't fundamentally change understanding the awareness of your beliefs, but your beliefs can change because you have new evidence, right?
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  Tanya Willis: And so maybe something that I believed in 2017 is different now, but the concept.
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  Tanya Willis: is still the same.
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  Tanya Willis: I still believe in awareness.
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  Tanya Willis: I still believe in curiosity.
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  Tanya Willis: I still believe in compassion and non judgment.
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  Tanya Willis: So when I'm speaking with a client, you can see the all or nothing thinking.
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  Tanya Willis: You can hear the negative words that they're using.
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  Tanya Willis: And just by even this morning, I was talking to a client.
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  Tanya Willis: She says, Oh my God, Tony, I'm struggling with this.
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  Tanya Willis: And I said, okay, let's turn that word struggle into I'm curious about this.
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  Tanya Willis: And so I had her try both words and she's oh my gosh, I feel so much better when I say curious And, so that's just a simple switch.
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  Tanya Willis: So when I was talking about time, if you don't have a coach or a in my midlife reboot and your programs that you're offering, when you start to hear other people, you move faster because if you're by yourself, you don't hear yourself.
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  Tanya Willis: You don't see yourself.
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  Tanya Willis: You don't and that's protective of you.
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  Tanya Willis: And so it takes courage.
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  Tanya Willis: It takes courage to sign up and work with you.
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  Tanya Willis: It takes courage to sign up and work with me.
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  Tanya Willis: But the question I have to ask is, Do you want to stay where you are or do you want something more vibrant and energetic?
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  Tanya Willis: And I'm going to attract women who look at their 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s and be like, I want to be doing the things I love to do.
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  Tanya Willis: I want to feel amazing.
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  Tanya Willis: And those are the people I attract because that's what they want.
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  Tanya Willis: They want the energy.
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  Tanya Willis: They want the vibrancy.
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  Tanya Willis: They want to play with their grandkids on the floor.
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  Tanya Willis: They want to be able to go for a walk.
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  Tanya Willis: They want to be able to get in and out of their car.
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  Tanya Willis: They want to have a mindset.
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  Tanya Willis: Of abundance and vibrancy.
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  Tanya Willis: And this is where it all starts.
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  Tanya Willis: And so courage, you need the courage and you need to be able to understand that you are going to lean into discomfort because that's where growth happens.
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  Tanya Willis: And the idea is, and so this is what I see with working with my clients, is how much discomfort can you handle right now?
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  Tanya Willis: And so what happens is if you, if I link this back to my story of trying to reduce my sugar intake, I was trying to get from the bottom of the mountain to the top of the mountain in one day.
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  Tanya Willis: Big step and my nervous system couldn't handle it like it way too much and so when you just say what's the next step like what's just the next step I have to do and you trust in the process And you get way further ahead because you can stay stuck for 10 20 30 years Because your ego is wanting you to stay in the sorry, the familiar hell over the unfamiliar pleasure.
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  Tanya Willis: And so when you start to put all of these puzzle pieces, cause we're just a puzzle, when you put all those puzzle pieces together, you realize it's not your fault, but it is your responsibility.
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  Tanya Willis: And when you can take ownership and empower yourself, you will get the things that you want.
• 22:35
  Mary Lee: Beautiful.
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  Mary Lee: That was another thing I learned from sad guru too, is.
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  Mary Lee: The responsibility piece, when he speaks that our responsibility is boundless.
• 22:45
  Mary Lee: Yes.
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  Mary Lee: And it's just not how we are responsible to our own selves, but how that level of control that we can take over ourselves as we step into our age of wisdom.
• 22:58
  Mary Lee: It's menopausal women reflects the energy that we give off to the rest of the world.
• 23:03
  Mary Lee: And then you have this bigger concept of how I show up in the world for me.
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  Mary Lee: It's also how I'm showing up in the world for everybody else, maybe my immediate family, maybe my colleagues at work, my neighbors, and then having that awareness that if we can't get a grip on what it is that is holding us back from stepping into that greatness, it will resonate in how we behave, how we speak, our level of compassion for others.
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  Tanya Willis: Yeah.
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  Tanya Willis: And on one level, I have some selfishness because we are all in this ocean.
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  Tanya Willis: We are all part of this ocean.
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  Tanya Willis: We are not a drop of the water.
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  Tanya Willis: And the way our culture sets us up is to think that we are a drop of water and that what we do doesn't affect anybody else.
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  Tanya Willis: But when I love you, I raise the collective consciousness.
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  Tanya Willis: I put the everything in the ocean.
• 23:59
  Tanya Willis: We are all in the ocean.
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  Tanya Willis: So when I help.
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  Tanya Willis: Lift everybody up into an into a vibrant, loving, energetic, empowering faith.
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  Tanya Willis: It's helping the collective.
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  Tanya Willis: It's helping all of us, right?
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  Tanya Willis: And when we're stuck in shame and anger and regret and fear, you're pulling me down.
• 24:20
  Tanya Willis: You're pulling everybody down.
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  Tanya Willis: And so I think sometimes women feel selfish, that they're caring for themselves.
• 24:30
  Tanya Willis: And they give, to others.
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  Tanya Willis: But when you give to yourself, you do give to others.
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  Tanya Willis: So it is really important to really not think of it as a selfish act to love and care and honor yourself and love deeply yourself because then you're raising this whole ocean.
• 24:54
  Tanya Willis: So you, and so selfishly, I want everybody, come on, let's go, let's move out of the darkness and into the light.
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  Tanya Willis: And let me tell you, I've had to move out of shame.
• 25:05
  Tanya Willis: I've had to move out of judgment.
• 25:07
  Tanya Willis: I've had to move out of fear.
• 25:08
  Tanya Willis: And do I still have some fear?
• 25:11
  Tanya Willis: Sure.
• 25:12
  Tanya Willis: I'm human, but is it getting more fun to work with?
• 25:17
  Tanya Willis: Yes.
• 25:18
  Tanya Willis: Because I realized it's not even there.
• 25:21
  Tanya Willis: It's just.
• 25:21
  Tanya Willis: Of a, again, that ego trying to protect me.
• 25:25
  Tanya Willis: And so when you understand this, you start to step out more.
• 25:29
  Mary Lee: Yes.
• 25:30
  Mary Lee: So good.
• 25:31
  Mary Lee: You spoke a mindness, a mindset mindfulness.
• 25:35
  Mary Lee: You spoke about the self-love.
• 25:37
  Mary Lee: Tell us a little bit more of the holistic approach you take to help.
• 25:41
  Mary Lee: First of all, define the holistic approach and then what you serve up in your signature program that focuses on the holistic side of wellness and fitness.
• 25:52
  Tanya Willis: I think of it as movement because emotion is energy and movement.
• 25:58
  Tanya Willis: So it's not just about lifting weights.
• 26:00
  Tanya Willis: It's not just about doing Pilates.
• 26:02
  Tanya Willis: It's not just about being on your roller.
• 26:04
  Tanya Willis: It's not just about moving your body.
• 26:07
  Tanya Willis: You move emotion.
• 26:09
  Tanya Willis: Through your body.
• 26:10
  Tanya Willis: We have issues in our tissues.
• 26:12
  Tanya Willis: When we begin to move, we get the energy out, right?
• 26:16
  Tanya Willis: And so what do you do with that energy that comes out?
• 26:18
  Tanya Willis: And that's where the mindset piece comes in.
• 26:22
  Tanya Willis: You know when, I'm doing, so my three components, which I've already, the pillars are like movement, nutrition, and mindset.
• 26:28
  Tanya Willis: I've been a personal trainer for over three decades.
• 26:30
  Tanya Willis: I've been teaching fitness, I'm like 10 instructors rolled into one.
• 26:33
  Tanya Willis: I can basically teach anything at this point.
• 26:36
  Tanya Willis: And I have a very.
• 26:38
  Tanya Willis: Balanced approach to menopause because you are a story to movement in menopause because you don't move the same as when you're 20 years old.
• 26:46
  Tanya Willis: So what does that look like?
• 26:47
  Tanya Willis: And that's what I teach.
• 26:50
  Tanya Willis: The other thing is that our population is not moving enough.
• 26:54
  Tanya Willis: They're not moving enough.
• 26:55
  Tanya Willis: We're very stagnant.
• 26:57
  Tanya Willis: So that energy is very stagnant.
• 26:59
  Tanya Willis: Your thoughts have energy, your thoughts have weight.
• 27:02
  Tanya Willis: And so when you learn to look at exercise as opposed to a gift of vibrancy and energy and moving these emotions out of your body, you don't look at it the same of I have to do this because I got to lose weight.
• 27:15
  Tanya Willis: No, that is not why you work out.
• 27:18
  Tanya Willis: You work out because when you do something, you feel great about yourself.
• 27:21
  Tanya Willis: I've never had a client.
• 27:23
  Tanya Willis: I always say to my people, when they show up, the hardest part was getting here.
• 27:27
  Tanya Willis: The hardest part is I'm doing it.
• 27:29
  Tanya Willis: Nobody ever leaves and goes, Oh, I wish I hadn't done that.
• 27:34
  Tanya Willis: They always feel better.
• 27:36
  Tanya Willis: So movement is a vital part.
• 27:39
  Tanya Willis: So how can we move?
• 27:41
  Tanya Willis: And again it, it may start depending on where you are this way.
• 27:45
  Tanya Willis: It can change depending on what your goals are.
• 27:48
  Tanya Willis: But I think it's really important to understand the energetic component of movement, not just the lifting weights, like the physical that we're talking about.
• 27:57
  Tanya Willis: The next part is food has energy.
• 28:00
  Tanya Willis: What we eat, we are.
• 28:02
  Tanya Willis: And a lot of people, I think it's up to almost 80 percent of people are living on an ultra processed food diet.
• 28:09
  Tanya Willis: There is no energy in that food.
• 28:11
  Tanya Willis: It's like sucking the life out of your cells.
• 28:14
  Tanya Willis: So how do you begin to get out of this really chemically addicted food?
• 28:20
  Tanya Willis: And start to nourish yourself with nutrient dense choices.
• 28:24
  Tanya Willis: And when I'm working with clients, I never take anything away from them because most people get defensive.
• 28:30
  Tanya Willis: They're like, I'm not giving this up.
• 28:32
  Tanya Willis: I'm not giving this up.
• 28:33
  Tanya Willis: And I'm just like, you don't have to give anything up.
• 28:35
  Tanya Willis: But when you become empowered about your menopausal plate, you start to make choices from a different spot.
• 28:44
  Tanya Willis: You make it from a different energy and you go into that we're just cellular beings and that the food you eat affects your cells.
• 28:50
  Tanya Willis: It affects your energy.
• 28:51
  Tanya Willis: It affects your frequency.
• 28:52
  Tanya Willis: It affects you as a whole.
• 28:55
  Tanya Willis: And so I don't revamp anybody.
• 28:58
  Tanya Willis: I don't put anybody on a diet.
• 28:59
  Tanya Willis: All I do is we say, where are we now?
• 29:02
  Tanya Willis: Where do we want to go?
• 29:03
  Tanya Willis: What's the next simple shift?
• 29:05
  Tanya Willis: And I teach you some basic fundamentals.
• 29:07
  Tanya Willis: And then we move from there.
• 29:09
  Tanya Willis: And then the mindset piece, if you think you can't, you won't.
• 29:13
  Tanya Willis: What you, if you can, you will, and if you can't, you won't.
• 29:17
  Tanya Willis: So we work on language.
• 29:19
  Tanya Willis: We work on how can we get our nervous system running properly so that we can expand, because we're only as big as what we can handle.
• 29:29
  Tanya Willis: And so If this is why self sabotage happens because you haven't expanded your nervous system.
• 29:35
  Tanya Willis: So when you understand frequency and nervous system and you don't have to understand all the things I'm talking about because I'll put it into terms that are doable action, right?
• 29:47
  Tanya Willis: Because you can't think about change.
• 29:50
  Tanya Willis: You subconsciously have to rewire your body to bring on those changes.
• 29:58
  Tanya Willis: So those are just the things that I teach and there's a variety of ways to teach that.
• 30:05
  Tanya Willis: So what works for one person may not work for another.
• 30:07
  Tanya Willis: But the idea is that a lot of us right now are using a hammer to build everything.
• 30:14
  Tanya Willis: We're trying to build a house with just a hammer.
• 30:16
  Tanya Willis: So a lot of people are just trying to diet.
• 30:20
  Tanya Willis: And they're trying to change their whole life with a diet and what I'm inviting people to do is that you need a screwdriver and a wrench and a hammer and an allen key and you're going to learn how to get all these tools and these skills so that you can build your house and we're going to build a strong foundation and then we're going to build a house on top of that.
• 30:41
  Tanya Willis: But we have to build the foundation first.
• 30:46
  Mary Lee: Completely 100 percent agree that building the foundation and I speak about this a lot and it'll be in my signature program is, the chakras as well.
• 30:55
  Mary Lee: You spoke about the energy and the energy centers.
• 30:57
  Mary Lee: Yes.
• 30:57
  Mary Lee: Because then we have stagnant energy from, our thoughts and it doesn't get a chance to, move or it'll manifest as dis ease, a lack of ease in the body.
• 31:09
  Mary Lee: But I always say we've got to bring, it back to the foundation, which is the root chakra, which is your safety, security, and build you up from there.
• 31:18
  Mary Lee: And it's just can be those energetic shifts, rather than this whole big daunting process.
• 31:24
  Mary Lee: Again, another tool in the toolbox.
• 31:26
  Tanya Willis: I talk about chakras in my book, cookie dough in the dark, because that was one tool.
• 31:31
  Tanya Willis: It's a tool.
• 31:32
  Tanya Willis: Where I was like, I am stuck in my root chakra, like I am stuck in safety, security and addiction really rides, lives in the the root chakra.
• 31:43
  Tanya Willis: I think it's important to understand too that when you are going through the change.
• 31:50
  Tanya Willis: Of this habit change of this becoming this new person, this new identity that you go at a speed where you can.
• 31:58
  Tanya Willis: So one of my philosophies is simple shifts done consistently over time will get you the results that you want.
• 32:04
  Tanya Willis: It's not one big swing.
• 32:06
  Tanya Willis: It's the consistent action.
• 32:07
  Tanya Willis: It goes back to what we were talking about before with you planting the seeds in your garden from Eckhart and Joe and then they sprung.
• 32:16
  Tanya Willis: so much.
• 32:16
  Tanya Willis: Because you were ready to hear it because you had heard whisperings before.
• 32:22
  Tanya Willis: And so there's no failure.
• 32:24
  Tanya Willis: There's never failure, which we talked about at the beginning too.
• 32:27
  Tanya Willis: It's the willingness to look at yourself, collect data, see what your next step is.
• 32:32
  Tanya Willis: What are you learning?
• 32:34
  Tanya Willis: How can you, tweak this?
• 32:36
  Tanya Willis: What do you like about this?
• 32:38
  Tanya Willis: And you learn the flow.
• 32:41
  Tanya Willis: And it's just the easiest way I can say that it becomes effortless.
• 32:46
  Tanya Willis: It becomes so effortless.
• 32:47
  Tanya Willis: And for years I pushed so hard and I feel that in my business.
• 32:54
  Tanya Willis: So before you and I hit record today.
• 32:58
  Tanya Willis: I was talking to you about the money I've spent and the time I have spent and I said to you, I will save you time and money because I will save you the 10 years I spent.
• 33:10
  Tanya Willis: Again, that's another powerful, the power of having a coach is that I'm going to save you from going all through the mistakes that I went through.
• 33:18
  Tanya Willis: And so I shared some of the things that I have done.
• 33:22
  Tanya Willis: So it's just, there's.
• 33:25
  Tanya Willis: There's no failure.
• 33:27
  Tanya Willis: It's what did you learn from that lesson and how can you move forward from here?
• 33:32
  Mary Lee: Yes.
• 33:33
  Mary Lee: Yeah.
• 33:33
  Mary Lee: I heard it beautifully said I was just tuning into the resilient mind podcast.
• 33:38
  Mary Lee: Dr.
• 33:38
  Mary Lee: Joe dispense.
• 33:39
  Mary Lee: And he always plays clips from some of the greats I mentioned already, Oprah Winfrey.
• 33:43
  Mary Lee: And so it was her little segment that was launched yesterday.
• 33:47
  Mary Lee: So that would make it what?
• 33:47
  Mary Lee: May 5th, 16.
• 33:49
  Mary Lee: And she speaks about being brave and it's a little snippets of Speaking engagements of hers over time, but there was one part while I was out on my dog walk today that she said, and it just, again, it grabbed me started doing the watering was when she said, it's not mistakes we made, it's the universe's way of saying there's a better way to learn the route.
• 34:14
  Mary Lee: So try it that way and realize, Oh, that's not working.
• 34:19
  Mary Lee: I'm going to show you a more efficient way to get the results.
• 34:25
  Mary Lee: And I love that because she speaks very candidly about the mistakes that she made in her broadcast days.
• 34:32
  Mary Lee: And, realizing that's not going to work, but did it diminish her?
• 34:36
  Mary Lee: God, just think if she just.
• 34:38
  Mary Lee: Stopped what she was doing right then and there.
• 34:41
  Mary Lee: We would not have the experiences and the beauty and the service that she's brought to this.
• 34:46
  Mary Lee: Great planet.
• 34:48
  Mary Lee: And that speaks to everyone.
• 34:50
  Mary Lee: You think of Einstein.
• 34:52
  Tanya Willis: We're all, if you are not, so if you are not making mistakes and you are not afraid, you are not living.
• 34:59
  Tanya Willis: Yeah.
• 35:00
  Tanya Willis: You're not living because I make mistakes every day.
• 35:03
  Tanya Willis: I don't do things perfectly.
• 35:05
  Tanya Willis: I started a podcast.
• 35:06
  Tanya Willis: I thought about it and then I just did it.
• 35:10
  Tanya Willis: And I was scared and sometimes you just do things anyway, right?
• 35:15
  Tanya Willis: You just I wrote a book that was terrifying.
• 35:19
  Tanya Willis: And then there are certain things where I didn't promote my book properly because I was still hiding.
• 35:25
  Tanya Willis: And so I don't, and that was the difference between me being in my mid forties to me being now 50 in my mid fifties, where I'm like, you know what?
• 35:34
  Tanya Willis: I'm in this life to shine.
• 35:37
  Tanya Willis: And if I don't shine, I can't help other people shine.
• 35:40
  Tanya Willis: And that goes back to what you said.
• 35:41
  Tanya Willis: If Oprah had stopped or if anybody, if all of us had stopped we wouldn't be here.
• 35:47
  Tanya Willis: We, I am on this planet to evolve and grow.
• 35:51
  Tanya Willis: And Oh my gosh, we could do a whole podcast on how many times I've been absolutely petrified.
• 35:59
  Tanya Willis: Sweating.
• 35:59
  Tanya Willis: So if you sign up for Mary Lee's programs or my programs and you're like, I don't know if I should do this.
• 36:04
  Tanya Willis: That's your ego.
• 36:05
  Tanya Willis: I've failed at so many other things.
• 36:07
  Tanya Willis: Why is this thing going to be different?
• 36:08
  Tanya Willis: Oh my gosh, I can't believe I'm spending this much money on myself.
• 36:11
  Tanya Willis: And you're sweating.
• 36:12
  Tanya Willis: You're doing the right thing.
• 36:15
  Tanya Willis: You're doing the right thing because doing that is going to move you ahead.
• 36:20
  Tanya Willis: If you don't do that, you're just going to go right back into what you were doing before.
• 36:25
  Mary Lee: It's so good.
• 36:26
  Mary Lee: It's so good.
• 36:27
  Mary Lee: It's in the doing that we're actually learning the most.
• 36:31
  Mary Lee: We'll tell you, I'm going to take you from A to Z, and this is the transformation that we're going to bring you to.
• 36:38
  Mary Lee: I'm going to call out where a person, and you too, with your prospects, where you're probably at today and where you want to be.
• 36:45
  Mary Lee: And they'll get fixated on that.
• 36:47
  Mary Lee: But the real delivery, the real bonus of what they really get out of it, is in the doing because those are those independent, individual, unique light bulb moment.
• 37:00
  Mary Lee: So we don't know that they're going to have, we just know that they're there in the transition in the transformation.
• 37:07
  Mary Lee: And so if you're not putting that, that first foot through that door, you'll never know.
• 37:13
  Mary Lee: You'll absolutely never know.
• 37:14
  Mary Lee: And that's why, and I wanted to speak to that.
• 37:16
  Mary Lee: I'm glad you brought it up again about stepping into that greatness.
• 37:20
  Mary Lee: And wanting to shine with your podcast and then just doing it with me.
• 37:23
  Mary Lee: Same thing.
• 37:24
  Mary Lee: Mel Robbins, 1.
• 37:26
  Mary Lee: I had an idea and before my brain could talk me out of it before that ego could say, Oh girl, don't do that.
• 37:32
  Mary Lee: Who do you think you are?
• 37:33
  Mary Lee: Your voice is stupid.
• 37:36
  Mary Lee: I just said.
• 37:38
  Mary Lee: No.
• 37:39
  Mary Lee: And that was when I started to claim my power.
• 37:44
  Mary Lee: So talk to me about what it is about podcasting that allows you to make that intimate connection.
• 37:51
  Mary Lee: You just can't seem to get on those reels on Instagram, Facebook posts.
• 37:59
  Tanya Willis: You know what?
• 37:59
  Tanya Willis: My power is in my voice.
• 38:01
  Tanya Willis: I am very energetic, very vibrant.
• 38:04
  Tanya Willis: Absolutely.
• 38:05
  Tanya Willis: Absolutely.
• 38:05
  Tanya Willis: Very real.
• 38:06
  Tanya Willis: And the more we talk, the more that inner being comes out and I'm not a 32nd sound bit and even doing a podcast sometimes I'm like, it's like a story, like each episode when I was listening to your podcast, it builds on another episode and you get to be connected to that person and you understand.
• 38:29
  Tanya Willis: This like the obstacles they have faced and how they went through those obstacles.
• 38:35
  Tanya Willis: And so you get to share a story and you get to see the process.
• 38:41
  Tanya Willis: And so even sometimes when I'm taping a podcast, there'll be things like, oh gosh, people might not understand the context of what I'm saying in that moment.
• 38:50
  Tanya Willis: But if they keep listening to my podcast, they will start to tie those threads in.
• 38:57
  Tanya Willis: And I just feel, like I was saying to you before, I love listening to podcasts.
• 39:03
  Tanya Willis: I love listening to podcasts.
• 39:05
  Tanya Willis: I don't go on Facebook and Instagram that much because I actually want to get into hear what they're saying.
• 39:13
  Tanya Willis: And then from there, I will go and check out their programs.
• 39:17
  Tanya Willis: Or sometimes I'll look them up on Instagram, but more times than, or Facebook, more times than not, I love the intimate connection, the deeper dive into the taking away the shininess and really saying again, I'll use this word because people might be identifying with it, but the, struggle I had with overeating.
• 39:40
  Tanya Willis: And nighttime eating and not knowing what to do with it.
• 39:45
  Tanya Willis: I would now replace that with the curiosity of why am I turning to food?
• 39:50
  Tanya Willis: What is this food giving me?
• 39:52
  Tanya Willis: And now I understand Betty bacteria.
• 39:55
  Tanya Willis: I understand Edwina the ego.
• 39:57
  Tanya Willis: I understand chemical, how our bodies get chemically addicted to certain things.
• 40:05
  Tanya Willis: And so when you start to do these podcasts, you can just go into kind of I'm sure, I don't know if you've done this with a podcast, but you'll go off on a tangent and then you'll come back because you're really trying to explain where the, because if you have self sabotage, why do you have self sabotage?
• 40:25
  Tanya Willis: Okay.
• 40:25
  Tanya Willis: It's not because you have low willpower that has nothing to do with it.
• 40:31
  Tanya Willis: But that's what we're taught to believe.
• 40:32
  Tanya Willis: So then we go on intent, then we can come back into, okay what is willpower?
• 40:36
  Tanya Willis: We can explain that.
• 40:37
  Tanya Willis: How can we start to work through it?
• 40:40
  Tanya Willis: So that's why I like.
• 40:41
  Tanya Willis: the podcasting because I can, I just usually sit here and my arms are flailing all over the place and I'm just talking to the air.
• 40:49
  Tanya Willis: Sometimes my podcasts are just off the top of my head.
• 40:54
  Tanya Willis: Some days they're a little more structured.
• 40:56
  Tanya Willis: I've done some more work.
• 40:58
  Tanya Willis: The other day I taped two podcasts without sound.
• 41:02
  Tanya Willis: So I had to go read those again.
• 41:04
  Tanya Willis: And it's just, I don't know.
• 41:08
  Tanya Willis: I get to dive in and just really be me.
• 41:11
  Tanya Willis: And I think I heard this quote and I'm, going to ride with it.
• 41:15
  Tanya Willis: But when you are your authentic being, you vibrate at your highest frequency.
• 41:21
  Tanya Willis: And this is where I vibrate.
• 41:23
  Tanya Willis: This is where I'm the most authentic by talking and that's what people get with my coaching calls.
• 41:30
  Tanya Willis: Yes, they get.
• 41:32
  Tanya Willis: So if you do want to come into my program, your program, you get to know who we are.
• 41:39
  Tanya Willis: And it's, the same, except for we're going to really focus on you.
• 41:44
  Tanya Willis: It's the same.
• 41:45
  Tanya Willis: You're going to get this.
• 41:46
  Tanya Willis: I don't change.
• 41:48
  Mary Lee: So beautiful.
• 41:49
  Mary Lee: That's true.
• 41:50
  Mary Lee: I'm so delighted.
• 41:52
  Mary Lee: You're hitting on all the questions, honest to goodness.
• 41:55
  Mary Lee: I swear you're asking all the questions that come into my head before I even get a chance to open it my mouth.
• 42:00
  Mary Lee: But that is the magic about thought as well.
• 42:03
  Mary Lee: And because thoughts have a vibration, they have a frequency, it is energy.
• 42:08
  Mary Lee: And even in this virtual space, I am absolutely resonating with your vibrancy, your energy.
• 42:15
  Mary Lee: And just as I'm about to ask, you've already spoken about What I was gonna ask.
• 42:22
  Mary Lee: So thank you for being able to do that.
• 42:25
  Mary Lee: Amazing.
• 42:25
  Mary Lee: I'm glad that you, touched on the energy and just vibrating at that higher level, because that really is about healing the planet, the collective energy.
• 42:34
  Mary Lee: And if we are going to rise from this dense 3d and those who gravitate to that kind of a message or understanding the rise to a more flowy, divine, feminine, 5d, more empathetic.
• 42:51
  Mary Lee: We have to work on our vibration first and come to a higher level of vibration.
• 42:56
  Mary Lee: And I learned that also from my podcast guests, don't get me wrong, like a coach, like you probably experienced comes to the platform with a lot of tools in her tool bag from personal experience.
• 43:08
  Mary Lee: And building up through coaching courses, Pilates, yoga, like yourself so many of them, but we don't always know all the answers.
• 43:17
  Mary Lee: And that's another beautiful thing about the podcasting world is we learn, or we expand that knowledge piece when we hear from somebody else and it just, yeah.
• 43:26
  Mary Lee: And I
• 43:27
  Tanya Willis: love reaching out to people like I reached out to you and just I love, having these conversations as, and as a solo entrepreneur.
• 43:35
  Tanya Willis: I've been doing this for a long time.
• 43:37
  Tanya Willis: It gets very lonely sometimes.
• 43:39
  Tanya Willis: And so the podcast was a way for me to step out and put myself out there to connect with people and to just again, have that higher energy.
• 43:51
  Tanya Willis: So it's been very healing for me because we are, meant to be in community.
• 43:57
  Tanya Willis: We are not alone.
• 44:00
  Tanya Willis: And so we are meant to be doing this together and lifting each other up.
• 44:05
  Tanya Willis: So that's important.
• 44:08
  Mary Lee: And that's exactly what the menopausal journey is that we are meant to do it in community and rise each other up, lift each other up.
• 44:15
  Mary Lee: To be our higher authentic self.
• 44:17
  Mary Lee: And I just know that the energy you're delivering right now and on your podcast is 100 percent what your clients, your prospects can get, can guarantee they're going to get from you when they sign up.
• 44:30
  Mary Lee: So tell our listeners where they can find you and how to get enrolled in your masterclass.
• 44:36
  Tanya Willis: So I do just what Spotify and Apple podcasts go to menopause made easy with Tanya.
• 44:42
  Tanya Willis: I really shine there.
• 44:44
  Tanya Willis: I have some freebies.
• 44:45
  Tanya Willis: If you go to my website, vibrant living with tanya.
• 44:47
  Tanya Willis: com, I have an exercise freebie.
• 44:50
  Tanya Willis: I have a rolling freebie.
• 44:52
  Tanya Willis: I have a five hacks to cut your craving guide freebie.
• 44:55
  Tanya Willis: Don't get them all at once or you'll get a lot of emails from me, but really pick the one that resonates with you and, then just walk through the journey.
• 45:04
  Tanya Willis: And you can also check out my programs.
• 45:06
  Tanya Willis: I have a midlife reboot program, which is where I do the coaching calls with you all.
• 45:11
  Tanya Willis: And then I have a vibrant living Academy.
• 45:13
  Tanya Willis: Which goes into the exercise component more and I also if you're around me I'm also a Reiki instructor.
• 45:20
  Tanya Willis: I teach CPR and first aid.
• 45:22
  Tanya Willis: I have I've been doing this a very long time So I have a lot of eggs in my basket.
• 45:27
  Tanya Willis: So that is where you can find me and if you are on social media You can go vibrantly more tanya at instagram or tanya willis on facebook and You will find me and you can always email me.
• 45:40
  Tanya Willis: We'll give you all the show notes in the show notes.
• 45:42
  Mary Lee: Absolutely.
• 45:43
  Mary Lee: I'm going to get all those links in the show notes, including your book and your podcast.
• 45:47
  Mary Lee: This has been a delightful conversation.
• 45:50
  Mary Lee: So energetic.
• 45:51
  Mary Lee: This is one that I would like to continue on and a future opportunity as well.
• 45:56
  Mary Lee: As we share more and more about our coaching programs, but just the experience of lifting other people up, because this is where we probably wanted to dive into some of those success stories and, share those.
• 46:08
  Mary Lee: And I mentioned it in my, one of my previous episodes that have aired with Alicia Jones and a future thing that I want to start exploring is inviting listeners to.
• 46:17
  Mary Lee: To come on to a show with a guest that I've had before and say, look, it did Tanya and I spoke on this day and I'm bringing her back.
• 46:25
  Mary Lee: Any of my followers, listeners out there who want to link DME Lincoln, and you can ask a question on the podcast, make it a little bit more intimate for the listeners.
• 46:36
  Tanya Willis: You know what?
• 46:37
  Tanya Willis: I, that just reminds me, I'm doing free lunch and learns.
• 46:39
  Tanya Willis: So I used to do lunch and learn, And now I'm like, you know what, I'm going to start doing them again over zoom again to have that intimate connection to really, because you might be listening to this podcast.
• 46:50
  Tanya Willis: You're like, Oh, I have a question.
• 46:52
  Tanya Willis: I just need this.
• 46:53
  Tanya Willis: I just want to see her perspective or what should my next step be?
• 46:57
  Tanya Willis: So that is again, my gift of giving.
• 47:00
  Tanya Willis: You and I, and a lot of women in this space, we give.
• 47:03
  Tanya Willis: We have the podcast, we have the freebies, and now I'm going to do these Lunch and Learns, and we're going to dive in, and I'll pick different topics to discuss about.
• 47:12
  Tanya Willis: I have one coming up on ending your cravings, boosting your energy, And stopping nutrition confusion.
• 47:19
  Tanya Willis: And then I have another one coming up on how to reset your nervous system to stop self sabotage.
• 47:26
  Tanya Willis: Yes.
• 47:27
  Tanya Willis: So it's the perfect time for you.
• 47:29
  Tanya Willis: And this is to just step out.
• 47:32
  Tanya Willis: Like people don't have to put their screens on.
• 47:34
  Tanya Willis: They can do little chats.
• 47:35
  Tanya Willis: But that's just the next little step that somebody may be able to take.
• 47:39
  Tanya Willis: That they're comfortable with, a little fear.
• 47:42
  Tanya Willis: It's okay to be afraid.
• 47:43
  Tanya Willis: It's okay.
• 47:45
  Mary Lee: It's so true.
• 47:46
  Mary Lee: And another thing, and it's obvious to anybody's feeling the same way, feeling this way, it's been validated.
• 47:52
  Mary Lee: And the research is showing us that coming out of COVID, we've become a little bit more guarded and pessimistic, but more, more so we become much more lonely and we crave intimacy more than anything else.
• 48:09
  Mary Lee: And so step outside that comfort zone, and get into that community, even if it's virtual and find your people and feel empowered.
• 48:22
  Mary Lee: And that's that is the menopause journey right there, get those answers and engage.
• 48:28
  Mary Lee: So thank you for, the sharing that obviously they can link into your zoom lunch and learns through your website and we'll get that in the show notes.
• 48:38
  Mary Lee: Good.
• 48:40
  Mary Lee: It's been wonderful to have you here, Tanya.
• 48:43
  Mary Lee: Once again, I'm feeling so a boost of energy and I can't wait to share this with our listeners.
• 48:50
  Mary Lee: And we'll any clothing, closing thoughts you'd like to share before we, we say adieu.
• 48:57
  Mary Lee: Adieu.
• 48:58
  Tanya Willis: You know what, we're both smiling.
• 49:00
  Tanya Willis: Our, we are smiling so brightly.
• 49:02
  Tanya Willis: Our eyes are so wide.
• 49:03
  Tanya Willis: Our energy is so big.
• 49:05
  Tanya Willis: And I just, know that we have planted another seed for somebody today.
• 49:10
  Mary Lee: I believe so.
• 49:11
  Mary Lee: Absolutely.
• 49:11
  Mary Lee: We planted a
• 49:12
  Tanya Willis: seed.
• 49:12
  Tanya Willis: We might've even watered some too.
• 49:14
  Tanya Willis: So that's all I'm here to do is lift you up and bring more lightness.
• 49:20
  Tanya Willis: Into your life, more energy and just, you're not alone.
• 49:23
  Tanya Willis: When I was in my addiction, it's so dark.
• 49:27
  Tanya Willis: It's so dark, and it's scary.
• 49:30
  Tanya Willis: It's scary.
• 49:30
  Tanya Willis: I get it.
• 49:31
  Tanya Willis: It's scary.
• 49:33
  Tanya Willis: But just take a little tippy toe, step forward.
• 49:36
  Tanya Willis: Just keep going and we're your big cheerleaders here so, just know you can do it.
• 49:41
  Tanya Willis: If I can do it.
• 49:42
  Tanya Willis: I know you can do it.
• 49:45
  Mary Lee: Thank you for tuning in to another insightful episode of All Things Menopausal.
• 49:50
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• 49:58
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• 50:10
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• 50:17
  Mary Lee: Your feedback helps reach more women who can benefit from these conversations.
• 50:21
  Mary Lee: until next time, stay empowered, stay informed and embrace the beauty of your menopausal journey.
• 50:27
  Mary Lee: Remember midlife should be the best life and it will be.
• 50:32
  Mary Lee: Namaste.