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- 0:01Hello and welcome to the podcast.
- 0:03Today I would like us to talk about why it's not a good idea
- 0:08to use fancy terms that your potential customers don't
- 0:12understand. Now this is a very old principle
- 0:16and be a very old practice in sales.
- 0:20OK, Well, First off, when we are trying to close the deal,
- 0:25usually we're trying to entice someone or convince someone.
- 0:29I don't like using those words, but basically we're trying to
- 0:32invite them into a buying relationship.
- 0:34And sales professionals have long since recognized that it
- 0:37doesn't help if you're throwing around terms that they do not
- 0:40understand. Now in Nigeria, there is a move
- 0:44to appear credible and there is the move to appear professional.
- 0:50And so because of that, sometimes we throw around terms
- 0:54that are impressive and are meant to make us look bigger,
- 0:57which is the reason why in the past I have always picked on our
- 1:01brothers and sisters in the web development space.
- 1:03You know, who go around saying I'm a UIUX, you know, i.e., Lt.
- 1:08certified JavaScript, C++, triple BS that, that, that, you
- 1:13know, and all the fancy things that they throw around.
- 1:16So yes, when people throw around technical terms, they mean well,
- 1:23you're trying to impress whoever it is that you're talking to.
- 1:26You want them to know that you are the guy or that you are the
- 1:29very babe as per you don't gather qualification and you
- 1:32know everything like you know what you're talking about.
- 1:36So yes, there are times when all the credentials, all the
- 1:39technical terms are impressive. Maybe when you're speaking from
- 1:43stage, for instance. Well, then in personal selling
- 1:48one-on-one, when we're trying to invite one person in particular
- 1:53into a buying relationship, it doesn't help.
- 1:56And then maybe on contents that we create on social media
- 2:00because we're trying to establish for leadership and
- 2:03things like that, all the big complicated technical terms that
- 2:08probably don't help except if you're writing for your peers.
- 2:13So like somebody reached out to me to tell me that yes, all
- 2:16these web development people who say front end, back end
- 2:20developer, UIUXC script, Java plus something, something Tel
- 2:25whatever, whatever certified Google triple plus something,
- 2:28something rating certified. You know that the reason why
- 2:31they put all of that out there is because they are hoping to
- 2:36get jobs or hoping to get gigs from other people in the field.
- 2:40So that's why they use the inside speak.
- 2:42So yes, if you're talking to your industry peers, then yes,
- 2:46use all the terms you want. However, if you're talking to
- 2:50ordinary people and you're trying to close the deal, then
- 2:53use words that they can understand.
- 2:55Now, the reason why we're talking about this today is
- 2:56because I was chilling on LinkedIn earlier in the morning
- 2:59and then I saw some stuff about sustainable fashion and cyclical
- 3:05fashion. That's right, I forgot where my
- 3:07man is. My name is Tavi Shima Ayede.
- 3:09I'm the host of the podcast. And what we do over here is
- 3:12every single day we solve business problems.
- 3:14I bring you business goodness, especially from the perspective
- 3:18of sales and business development.
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- 3:25are customer related, client related.
- 3:27Those are the sorts of problems that I like talking about over
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- 4:09If you have questions, comments or queries, reach out.
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- 4:16I love interacting with people who listen to my podcast then.
- 4:22Aha, yes, there is one class of people that I'm hoping to hear
- 4:27from in particular, and those are people who have 34567
- 4:31different business ideas and are not making a single cobble from
- 4:35any of these ideas. Because I've had lots of those
- 4:38questions early this year, you know, already in February of
- 4:422026 as at the date of this recording.
- 4:45But from generator now people have been reaching out.
- 4:49You know, I'm passionate about this, I'm talented about that.
- 4:53I believe my true calling is this.
- 4:54Which business should I be involved in?
- 4:57I'm a multi potentialite. I'm a serial entrepreneur, I'm a
- 5:01renaissance man, I'm a multi creative, I'm a multi
- 5:03passionate, I'm a multi, blah, blah, blah, Boo Boo Boo.
- 5:06So for those of you people who can't decide, reach out.
- 5:11I'll put together a package and we can help you figure out which
- 5:14of these ideas should you be working with.
- 5:18Then we're also going to help you figure out, We're going to
- 5:23help you validate the idea because you need to figure out
- 5:26which ones are people, Which of your business ideas are people
- 5:29actually going to pay for and find enough people to pay for
- 5:32it. Are they comfortable enough for
- 5:34it? That will make this whole thing
- 5:35profitable so that you can reinvest back into the business
- 5:38and also have some money to flex as well.
- 5:41Because if you're in business and you don't have the hope of
- 5:43flexing eventually, then what are you doing?
- 5:46Then after that, we'll come up with a selling system so that we
- 5:50can get people coming back to buy again and again and again
- 5:53and eventually refer their friends, family members and
- 5:56associates. So now back to what I was saying
- 5:59about not using, you know, gain gain terms, you know, technical
- 6:05terms, you know, big, big, big grammar.
- 6:07Because I was chilling on LinkedIn earlier on in the day
- 6:10and I saw some stuff about sustainable fashion and the
- 6:13cyclical fashion and, and you know, all that kind of jazz.
- 6:17Now the reason why this has come across my radar was because I
- 6:22also do some mentoring for the Faith Foundation in partnership
- 6:26with the OCIF that is Orange Corners Innovation Fund or
- 6:29something like that. Now together, both of them have
- 6:32this program where they take Nigerian entrepreneurs and they
- 6:35run them through an incubation program.
- 6:38I can't remember how many weeks it's supposed to be.
- 6:40Then eventually the people are paired up with mentors like us.
- 6:45I'm sorry, like me rather, but it's on a what's that word?
- 6:51It's on a it's not assigned generally.
- 6:54So you have to ask in particular.
- 6:56So just in case you are listening to this episode right
- 6:59now and you happen to be going through that incubation program
- 7:03with Faith Foundation or that the particular one where they're
- 7:08administering it with the OCIF ask for me in particular and
- 7:13they'll hook you up with me and let's see how I can help you get
- 7:19the best out of your business ideas.
- 7:21Now they recently there's been a competition.
- 7:28The money seems to change every year.
- 7:30But anyway, Shah, it's always thousands and thousands,
- 7:32thousands of EUR. So one year I think was like
- 7:34€2000, another year ahead maybe like €10,000.
- 7:38Don't start salivating because they don't give that money to
- 7:42me, They give, they give that money to the winner.
- 7:44And so far I've represented 3 winners.
- 7:48So I was just playing with my wife the other day and I told
- 7:52her that it looks like I have the magic touch, like anybody at
- 7:55touch wins this prize anyway. So for the next set, the next
- 7:59cohort, let me see if that's going to be the same case that
- 8:02whoever it is they sent to me, I end up winning the prize for the
- 8:05person anyway. So the last person that I worked
- 8:08with was a prize winner. And she happened to be in that
- 8:10space, sustainable fashion, cyclical fashion, although the
- 8:14term that she used was cyclical fashion.
- 8:16So while we're talking the first name, the first name, she said
- 8:18silica fashion. I said, OK, look, you know what?
- 8:20I'm not in the industry. You have to break it down for me
- 8:22because when you say cyclical fashion for me, what I hear in
- 8:25my own head just means the style is coming around again, again,
- 8:28again, you know, like bell bottoms.
- 8:31So there's a time when bell bottoms are cool for like
- 8:33Popsy's generation. Then I noticed that after a
- 8:36while guys started wearing flare jeans again.
- 8:39I'm like, which one be flare jeans now?
- 8:41Flare jeans and bell bottoms, nobody the same thing.
- 8:43So when I heard cyclical fashion, that's the thing that
- 8:46came to my mind. Honestly speaking, because I'm a
- 8:50novice, I know day for that space.
- 8:52So I don't I don't know what's up.
- 8:54So I asked her and then she explained, OK, sustainable
- 8:57fashion, cyclical fashion, that it's about reusing and it's
- 9:00about recycling because the waste industry as a waste
- 9:03industry, the fashion industry, whether in Nigeria or whether
- 9:06globally, they produce a lot, a lot of waste.
- 9:10You know, you use plenty of fabric.
- 9:12Fabric will fall on the floor, you just repeat and then throw
- 9:15it outside your building waste or, you know, chemicals tie and
- 9:18dye this and this and that, you know, all kinds of processes.
- 9:21And so they're just producing waste, producing waste.
- 9:24So there's a new crop of entrepreneurs not just in
- 9:28Nigeria but the world over. And what they're trying to do is
- 9:32they're trying to solve 2 very big problems #1 they're trying
- 9:36to build fashion businesses because people who have fashion,
- 9:38we know that people in fashion, they like money.
- 9:40In fact, they like money more than the rest of us.
- 9:44Like this winner of the competition, Organic Organic
- 9:48Euro urges to tease her that she likes soap, you know, and she
- 9:52said how would she like soap? That she has to be correct as
- 9:55when you see her, her skin, everything looking smooth,
- 9:58everything just they shine. So this fashion people, they
- 10:00like money. So they're trying to solve 2
- 10:04problems #1 they're trying to make some good money, some good,
- 10:08good, good cheddar. Because fashion entrepreneurs,
- 10:11they like soap, they like cream, they like to flex, they like to
- 10:14baby themselves of life. Then the second problem that
- 10:18they're trying to solve, those of them in the sustainable
- 10:20fashion space or the cyclical fashion spaces, they're trying
- 10:23to reduce the amount of waste that they're putting out into
- 10:26the environment. If you don't understand what I'm
- 10:28saying, next time you go into the market, OK, Well, like in
- 10:31Abuja now, for instance, markets are divided into different
- 10:34sections. So the meat section is one side,
- 10:36the vegetable section is one side, you know, frozen food is
- 10:39one side, you know, like that, like that.
- 10:41Then the tailors, they just slam all over them into one building.
- 10:44If you go to the tailor section, you see what I mean?
- 10:47Every time you enter the tailoring section, just go to
- 10:49the back of the building. See there does being you just be
- 10:51seen, you know, waste clot, clot, clot as in plenty of
- 10:55waste, plenty of waste. Now, organic Jedro, that's the
- 11:00lady that I mentored and her own business is scrap to style.
- 11:05So you can check them on Instagram scrap to style.
- 11:07But I think the two is like a number.
- 11:09So scrap, SCRAP, and then #2 and then style FTYLE.
- 11:17So what they do is they look for ways to take all these small,
- 11:22small scraps that people don't use.
- 11:26You know, like, OK, let's say people who make raffia now, for
- 11:29instance, raffia baskets don't use everything.
- 11:32They can take the small, small wood chippings, everything, you
- 11:34know, come and make earring, come and make, you know, bags,
- 11:39you know, different kinds of stuff.
- 11:40And then from the clippings that people don't use, there's a way
- 11:44that they just take it before you know it.
- 11:45Now they just blend in with a Cara and then before you know
- 11:48it, bam, very solid, very beautiful.
- 11:53Angara top has been made. So very good stuff.
- 11:56So they're trying to solve these two problems.
- 12:00And for that I clap for them. But the reason why I'm making
- 12:04today's recording is this and ignoring the cyclical fashion
- 12:07space or the sustainable fashion space, My message is to you
- 12:13guys, you are trying to solve very big problems.
- 12:17And I commend you and you guys are adding value to the
- 12:20ecosystem and I commend you. But honestly speaking, the
- 12:24people who are supposed supposed to buy your clothes, ordinary
- 12:26people like me and my wife and my mom and your relatives, we
- 12:32honestly don't know what sustainable fashion means.
- 12:35We don't know what cyclical fashion means.
- 12:37We don't know what those other terms means mean.
- 12:40So perhaps you guys, you know, you will have your meeting
- 12:46fashion association, you guys should have a chat.
- 12:49Perhaps you are using terms that are not helping you sell your
- 12:52market. It's one of the things I should
- 12:54talk about. Not just people in in, you know,
- 12:56web developers, UI, UX, but also people in the crypto space.
- 13:01You're running around shouting crypto web 3, crypto web three,
- 13:04web three, web three, Web 3, this protocol, that protocol,
- 13:07but you want Nigerians to buy into this thing.
- 13:11But you're using words that the average Nigerian does not
- 13:13understand. And you're not talking in terms
- 13:15of benefits that the average Nigerian is going to enjoy.
- 13:18And then you wonder why Nigerians catching, Why aren't
- 13:21they picking? How would they pick?
- 13:23Even me as an educated fellow, I don't know the difference
- 13:26between Web 2 and Web 3. When I tell you people
- 13:31one-on-one, you don't get the point.
- 13:34You're now trying to educate me that this difference between Web
- 13:362, Web three, no, trying to get me individually is not the
- 13:38point. If you're trying to gain buy in
- 13:41on certain kinds of technologies on the African continent, Let's
- 13:44be real, we know who we are, we know what's going on.
- 13:47We're not a level of education, we're not a level of
- 13:49sophistication, We're not a level of exposure.
- 13:52Talk in terms that people can understand.
- 13:55So those of you in the sustainable fashion space, those
- 13:58of you in the cyclical fashion space, perhaps you guys need to
- 14:02have association meeting and you guys need to, how I put it, talk
- 14:08in terms that people will understand.
- 14:11Talk in terms of the benefits that people are going to, the
- 14:16benefits that people are going to enjoy.
- 14:19Because talking sustainable fashion and talking physical
- 14:21fashion might not be enough to get everybody on board to get
- 14:27the mass markets on board. No, I think it's a cool idea.
- 14:32What is the average Nigerian person going to buy?
- 14:34Just because like, oh, you're trying to save the environment?
- 14:38Really. They've already tried that in
- 14:41the West and it doesn't seem to be working.
- 14:43You talk environment, environment, environment.
- 14:45But so far, looks like people in America and in Western Europe
- 14:50prefer this whole thing of, you know, staying on trend to being
- 14:53fashionable. So you know, the rush for Winter
- 14:56Line, rush for what? Again, winter line, summer line,
- 15:01autumn line, you know, this and this and that and that.
- 15:04So we can't, they can't be talking environment all they
- 15:06want, but the market seems to be let's be trendy and let's be
- 15:11cheap. So for those of you brothers and
- 15:15sisters in the sustainable fashion space, in the cyclical
- 15:19fashion space, Nigeria perhaps achievable's next meeting if you
- 15:24guys have association, you guys need to start talking in terms
- 15:26of all people understand. So I'm going to go and do some
- 15:29research. And it looks as if sustainable
- 15:30fashion or Secret Fashion actually has some benefits that
- 15:34ordinary people like me can enjoy #1 superior quality and
- 15:42long lastingness. I was going to say longevity,
- 15:46but I don't bite my tongue. So superior quality and
- 15:49longevity. So somehow, somehow, somehow it
- 15:52looks as if sustainable brands in Nigeria and also sustainable
- 15:56brands abroad. Somehow, somehow they always
- 15:58focus on durability. It's not just a matter of let's
- 16:02package this thing and then put it out and make some money.
- 16:04They're also concerned that if you put this thing, outlet, this
- 16:07be the kind of thing that will last.
- 16:10OK, now, I didn't know that spiritually that is part of your
- 16:13motto. Those of you who are involved in
- 16:15these kind of things, they wanted quality something that
- 16:18the person will buy once and they wear over and over and over
- 16:21again that the thing will last, it will look nice, the Shank
- 16:23will still day. You understand.
- 16:27So you people need to start talking in those terms that this
- 16:31is superior quality fashion, that this is not just anyhow,
- 16:35anyhow, Ankara top, that is Ankara top, this line of bags,
- 16:40this line of this, this line of that, this one has been
- 16:43engineered to stand the test of time that you buy this Ankara,
- 16:48you see the Sheen, you see the shine now, so you go, they shine
- 16:51for the next 5 years straight, no shaking.
- 16:56So you should be talking in those kind of terms, this is
- 16:58superior quality, this is long lasting.
- 17:02I really think those are the things you should be talking
- 17:04about. Those are things you should be
- 17:05tweeting about, posting about, writing about instead of every
- 17:09single time you guys are talking sustainable fashion, sustainable
- 17:12fashion, cyclical fashion. What does that mean?
- 17:15It's not just me. I haven't asked my wife.
- 17:18I said, oh, that your sister that I'm working with my said
- 17:22who is my sister? I said no, that Beanie Babe that
- 17:25I was telling you about now organeted you.
- 17:27She said oh, OK, OK, so sickle fashion said sorry.
- 17:30Remind me again, what does secret car fashion mean?
- 17:33So it's not just me. And for those of you who are in
- 17:37the business of single car fashion and sustainable fashion,
- 17:40if you think I'm just being mischievous, no problem.
- 17:42After I listen to this podcast, go and ask your mom, see you
- 17:45say, mommy, what is secret care fashion?
- 17:47It will shock you that your mom, see, living in the same house as
- 17:51you, has absolutely no idea what secret care fashion means, what
- 17:55sustainable fashion means. Then go and ask your siblings.
- 17:57Then go and ask your husband. Then go and ask one or two
- 18:00people inquire in church. Maybe you now understand what it
- 18:04is I'm talking about. So talk in terms that people can
- 18:06understand. So instead of tweeting, talking
- 18:08everything about sustainable fashion, sustainable fashion,
- 18:11how about, you know, bias? Because what we're doing is
- 18:14these are superior clothes, superior quality, long lasting.
- 18:20How about that? Anyway, that's one thing I
- 18:26found. I also saw some things online
- 18:28about health and safety because apparently I didn't notice it
- 18:33looks like fast fashion, you know, looking good.
- 18:35Quick, quick, quick fashion. They use some chemicals like for
- 18:38formaldehyde for you know what I saw formaldehyde.
- 18:43My wife has this thing. She says there's a certain
- 18:45presidential figure. I won't see whether he's dead or
- 18:48alive, but the fellow, when the fellow entered office, the
- 18:53fellow started having significant health challenges
- 18:56and the fellow in question would travel abroad from time to time.
- 19:02And my wife, she says that they have carried him outside to go
- 19:05and pump him with formaldehyde. We had to pronounce this in
- 19:09formaldehyde. Abby, sorry, I didn't study
- 19:14chemical stuff in in uni, but any people who know you know, so
- 19:19instead of going to go and pumping with formaldehyde so
- 19:21that he can stand well. So fast fashion uses
- 19:25formaldehyde. Some of the dyes that achieve
- 19:28the colors, the bright colors are that cheap, but apparently
- 19:33they're not good for the skin. So those of you in the
- 19:40sustainable fashion space, in the cyclical fashion space, I
- 19:47didn't realize that is part of your spiritual mission, all of
- 19:50you. But it looks like you guys like
- 19:51to focus on non-toxic chemicals, natural dyes, no harsh chemical
- 19:58finishes, you know, stuff like that.
- 20:00So it's part of the things you can be talking about.
- 20:03Like you buy these products because all that cheap stuff
- 20:05people like getting from the UK and from Western Europe, you
- 20:09know to tap the team will damage your skin.
- 20:11That look at me, see my skin, see my glow.
- 20:13You want to glow like me, you want to be fly like me, you want
- 20:16to be fresh like me. Then use these things.
- 20:19Buy this Ankara, buy this our this, buy this our that because
- 20:23it is good for your skin. These are some of the things
- 20:26that you should be talking about.
- 20:29Then this one I also noticed about personal style.
- 20:33Like I've noticed that sustainable fashion, whether in
- 20:36Niger or abroad, I've noticed that you guys have your own,
- 20:40like you have your own look, you have your own style.
- 20:42There's a way that people dress, you know, in popular culture,
- 20:46there's a way that they just dress like they're trying to be
- 20:48in trend. But you sustainable fashion
- 20:50people like, you know, you match their own drum.
- 20:52You know, you have your own, you have your own swag.
- 20:56It's part of the thing that you can be talking about.
- 20:59There's no need to be going with the trend.
- 21:02Buy this, whatever, whatever, have your own unique style, be
- 21:06classy, be timeless, be sophisticated is part of the
- 21:11stuff you guys can be talking about in your in your marketing.
- 21:15Instead of saying good for the environment, you can be saying
- 21:19good for the environment. I'm just saying that I suspect
- 21:22getting Nigerians to buy start buying sustainable, you will
- 21:27have to start talking and posting in those terms, you
- 21:31know, so that people like me now I like to have my own sense of
- 21:34style, even though my wife says I have the fashion sense of a
- 21:36Canadian school teacher. So yeah, maybe if you push that
- 21:42kind of message in towards me, Mita can now say, you know what,
- 21:45myself, I suppose the you know, like classic man.
- 21:51So I'll go and buy one or two things.
- 21:52So I want to step outside people like Mr. Yiddy on point and I
- 21:57say, of course, I say most def that before encore.
- 22:01How was am I supposed to be? So that's I'm thinking this is
- 22:05me just riff, you know, it's my idea.
- 22:07I'm thinking when you guys have meeting sustainable fashion
- 22:10people, I think you should be talking about things, excuse me,
- 22:16you should be talking about your industry in these terms.
- 22:19So there's a whole bunch of stuff that I can say, but I
- 22:24think I've kind of made the point.
- 22:28But for those of you who are in the sustainable fashion space,
- 22:30in the civic of fashion space in Niger or in Ghana or South
- 22:36Africa, however you are listening to this podcast,
- 22:40please, I'm not trying to attack you guys like I like to attack
- 22:44my my brothers in the crypto Web 3 space or my brothers and
- 22:51sisters in the Web 3. Abby, OK, now ready Sir, crypto
- 22:57or the web developer space? I have front end, back end
- 23:00developer, UIUX. Those ones, I admit, yes, I
- 23:04enjoy blasting them. I enjoy abusing them.
- 23:06So I admit, for those who are in the fashion space, this one is
- 23:10not abuse. Just take me as one of your
- 23:14younger brothers. I like the movement.
- 23:17I like what people are doing and from outside, I think people are
- 23:20doing a very, very good job. And I think it's nice if this
- 23:24team picks, if your gospel, what people are preaching will be
- 23:27nice if the theme picks. But I really think you're not
- 23:30going to sell this market in Nigeria of 2026 if all you guys
- 23:35do whenever you're on Instagram, whenever you are on TikTok,
- 23:40whenever you're on LinkedIn, whenever you are on podcast, if
- 23:43you guys continue this whole thing of sustainable fashion,
- 23:45single car fashion, I don't think people will clock it.
- 23:49I don't think the thing will catch on.
- 23:52So the suggestions I've given is just my suggestions as an
- 23:57outsider, but you will next time you are doing association
- 24:00meeting, association of cyclical fashion entrepreneurs,
- 24:04sustainable fashion entrepreneurs, you know,
- 24:06whatever association people might have, think about it.
- 24:09How can we start talking about these things in terms of what
- 24:12our customers, our potential customers will enjoy?
- 24:17Those of us who are in the sales field, we have discovered that
- 24:20when we start talking in terms of what people will enjoy, our
- 24:23job becomes easier and we make and we are now able to now say
- 24:28so. How far now how far sure you buy
- 24:31like 2. The only reason why we can get
- 24:33to that point is say how far how many are you buying?
- 24:36Sure you pick two you carry on for Madam is because we're
- 24:39speaking in terms that the person understands.
- 24:42But if we show up our talking a whole bunch of stuff, how are we
- 24:48going to move market? So that's just my own two cents.
- 24:52So that's it and that's all. Thank you very much for
- 24:54listening. Remember, if you'd love to
- 24:57connect, the phone number is 08064662140.
- 25:03If you have questions, you have comments, you have queries, then
- 25:07if you're a fashion entrepreneur, you're trying to
- 25:09walk through a couple of difficulties.
- 25:11You're having issues with customers.
- 25:13Sustaining relationships is a problem.
- 25:16Closing deals is a problem. Getting referrals is a problem.
- 25:20You'd like to get my own two cents on the matter, Reach out.
- 25:22The phone number is 08064662140. Then for the special class of
- 25:30people that I referred to in the beginning, yes, I have you guys
- 25:33in in in my mind this year, in 2026, those of you who have 345
- 25:38ideas, you can't decide on which one is the best, reach out.
- 25:42I'll put together a training course.
- 25:46Reach out. We will select the one that is
- 25:48best for you. We will validate it.
- 25:50We'll show that it is profitable.
- 25:53By the way, that also means if we show that it is not
- 25:56profitable, be ready to pivot, please.
- 26:00And then we'll also create a selling system around it.
- 26:02Again, the phone number to reach out to call, send me a text
- 26:05message or a WhatsApp message is 08064 662140.
- 26:11So thank you very much for the time and attention.
- 26:13I will catch you all some other time.
- 26:16And don't forget to let people know that we have these kinds of
- 26:19wonderful podcasts in Nigeria as well.