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When the Expert Gets Pregnant: Danielle's Honest First Pregnancy · Bump + Thrive

• speaker-0: Welcome to the Bumit Thrive Podcast. I'm Lauren Sieb. I am a pre-postnatal exercise specialist based in Fairfield County, Connecticut, and I am joined by my co-host. speaker-1: Hi, I'm Danielle Sheppis. I am a pelvic floor physical therapist and I specialize in pre- and postpartum care. ⁓ and I think we have some pretty exciting news to speaker-0: We? How about just you? I'm not involved in this. I'm a team supporter. I have my pom-poms out. speaker-1: Well, drum roll please, Lauren. I am thirty weeks pregnant. Actually today. The countdown is on. The ten week countdown speaker-0: ⁓ my god. Yeah. Crazy. Let's give you nine weeks. Yeah. That would be great. Eight to nine weeks. Yeah, exactly. That would be great. So wait, when are we due? Fourth. Incredible. speaker-1: August. You've already been here twice in the exact position I'm in, so speaker-0: And I had a summer baby, so I can feel your pain right now. 'Cause last week was the first like hot week here in Connecticut. speaker-1: I know. When I told you I was pregnant you were like, ⁓ you're gonna have a summer baby too. Have fun this summer. speaker-0: with your cankles. I'm sorry ahead of time. Yeah. Hey, you still ca ⁓ I mean, there's no ankle kinkle going over your shoes right now. I'm really impressed. You will be wearing no high socks. Yeah, right. A few months from now or two. speaker-1: So far so good, but And I'm gonna be in flip flops only. I'm taking in as much like sneaker and tight pants speaker-0: So watching you and your husband Matt, especially with my son, who's now four, almost four. I keep like saying that he's four already, he's almost four. you are gonna be the best boy mom. Like speaker-1: Thank you. I'm excited to be a boy Mom. speaker-0: When you got him his truck last year, which was like I don't even know what kind of truck that is, he would tell you. I I it's over my head, but it's like a truck that has like something trailer and it makes all the sounds. Yeah. So it was like this girl knows where it's at that one. Not to say that like I could totally see you with a girl ultimately as well, but I just think that like boy energy right out the gate, like you have that energy for it, Matt has that energy for it. You guys are both active. Yeah. It's gonna be amazing. speaker-1: Yeah. I just knew he was gonna like We're so excited. I'm so excited and I'm excited to dive into all the things pregnancy today that I did and didn't expect 'cause there's it's been a journey. Three week journey that you've definitely been a part of. And my mom always says, ⁓ if Danielle suffers, everyone around her suffers too. Sorry if I brought you down with speaker-0: That's gonna do I feel like I've been a part of it. A thirty No, no, no, it's been fun. I mean, I'm I think I'm very much done after being a part of it, but I'm really excited. Like I said, pom pom's out I reminded you of like why you're you're I was at that point where I feel like a lot of moms get like having toddlers being like, ooh, should I do it one more time? Like they're potty trained and they get that itch and then I'll be I remind you. Let's dive in. Yeah. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: So to start off I wanna talk about like things you thought you'd never do in pregnancy that maybe you have been or vice versa. A little bit different of approach, but speaker-1: Yeah, I mean I just think in general you go into pregnancy as people who are in the health and wellness field, ⁓ and as holistic people where, you know, I don't even take Advil on a normal basis and then I get pregnant and I'm expecting, you know, I'm gonna stay so active, I'm gonna eat even healthier than like my normal healthy, which is probably healthier than ninety five percent of the population. ⁓ you know ⁓ you can't take anything in pregnancy, so no I won't be taking any medication, things like that. And then you get struck by the first trimester and literally everything I thought I knew about pregnancy was just out the door. I mean, I I don't think anyone could really plan for it. ⁓ and and how you're gonna feel and and what's gonna come of it, but I definitely underestimated it. I would say is probably the best way. speaker-0: ⁓ And pregnancy to pregnancy is so different too. Like, yeah. For me, I was being pregnant with my first, I was so sick that I almost when I found out I was pregnant with my second, I was like, ⁓ shit, here we go again. And it wasn't as bad. So let's like manifest that for you. First of all. Secondly Yeah. You're like, if I'm gonna do this, yeah. ⁓ so what were some of the like I think speaker-1: I kinda need that. speaker-0: for me what was surprising for my own pregnancy the for the first time around and then also I I witness it with you was like scaling workouts earlier, like how much your workouts changed. speaker-1: Yeah. I mean, I went from doing CrossFit seven six or seven days a week, to not leaving a couch for thirteen weeks. So I think that was, you know, really I would say mentally hard, but also like i it was just not what I wanted for pregnancy either. and as someone who, you know, every once in a while in my normal life, like I'll take off a week from the gym just to like let my body reset. You know, like we go on vacation, I do like walks and things like that. ⁓ but for thirteen weeks off from your body, I realize that getting even trying to get back into stuff is so difficult. ⁓ but I will say, like, throughout all of the really hard first trimester stuff. I didn't lose my breath work and my deep core work. which I'm really happy I knew how to do and could, you know, do throughout. Like even when I was throwing up twenty times a day and I was laying on the bathroom floor. The breath work actually would help to calm down my nausea at times. ⁓ my husband told me that he felt like our this is just like I feel like the most like boy thing ever to say. He was like, I feel like our apartment's just like a constant Lama's class. I'm like, number one, I don't even think they have Lamaz classes anymore. Number two, where'd you come up with that word? And three, I will puke all over you if you talk about my breathing techniques one more time because it's keeping me from puking all over you. So yeah, I was doing a lot of deep breathing to get me through the nausea and and all of speaker-0: And how about food? 'Cause I know your diet also changed a little ⁓ speaker-1: Yeah. ⁓ I mean massively. Yeah. I probably went from consuming like a hundred twenty to a hundred forty grams of protein a day to I mean negligible amounts. Like I don't even know if you could say like twenty grams. Like I can't even figure out where I would have gotten twenty grams of protein from. I also was so sick that like I wasn't really keeping any food down, so I really wasn't eating much in general. ⁓ which was crazy to me when I went to like my, you know, eight or nine week appointment and they like, the baby's measuring a week ahead. And I'm like, that's crazy. I haven't eaten in, you know, five weeks. my diet used to be very like I I kind of ate the same thing every day. Like I would have a little something before I would go to the gym, then I would have like eggs and toast and avocado, and then for lunch I would have some type of like chicken salad and speaker-0: We're speaker-1: Dinner would be, you know, a protein, a carb and a vegetable. And ⁓ I think I pretty much ate potato chips, sour gummy worms. I I don't even know if there was anything else. May speaker-0: We ate eggs for a while and which was shocking to me because I still can't eat eggs after pre speaker-1: I force fed myself in Yeah, that was really impressive. I couldn't keep the prenatal vitamins down. And I have been doing a bunch of research how important choline is for the baby's development. And I couldn't keep any food down. And I read somewhere that, you know, if you could even get in like two or three eggs a day, that that amount of choline is really important for like the early baby development. So I would force feed myself like two or three eggs a day. And then I would try to do it like At the time of day when I puked the least, which was like from like one to three. And then I would Yeah, I had a window from one to three that I could eat maybe like a portion of a meal. Like I wasn't really eating a meal, but like could I have a piece of toast with like two eggs most days? So I would try to get that in like during my little window before four PM 'cause as soon as four hit I was like comatose on the couch and probably ⁓ that was the other thing is every once in a while I I really never ate dinner 'cause I really couldn't eat after four PM. Mm-hmm. But ⁓ Wendy's Frosties speaker-0: I mean that was like my college guilty pleasures. speaker-1: So I totally cut like ⁓ but a Wendy's frosty is like ⁓ speaker-0: Have you made it here ninja creamy? You can make a healthier version of it. speaker-1: N there's something about when you're when you're in your first trimester, yeah, like making something was just way too taxing. But telling my husband to get in the car and go to Wendy's was much easier. speaker-0: Well, I always wanted chicken fingers, like like ch like tenders, not chicken nuggets during my first pregnancy and it was COVID when I don't know if you remember this, but there was like chicken wasn't readily available. There was like no chicken anywhere, so I had to order it from like this girl who did local like meal prep and she would make them with like chickpea flour. And I like speaker-1: This is the most warren thing I've ever heard. Forbid she goes and gets some like racey chicken tennis. Yeah. No, she's eating McDonald's chicken. No, it's COVID and speaker-0: Like things were rare. So I was having this girl drop them off at my front door. Crazy. I know, it was ridiculous. She was a little bit extra. speaker-1: That's crazy. Yeah, no, I definitely was not doing that. I did eat some chicken tenders. speaker-0: I don't know what it was I wanted chicken tender, so that was like the thing. And then watermelon later on. Like I don't know. Yeah, I've been eating a lot of speaker-1: Lots fruit now, yeah. Lots of fruit. ⁓ I really like that was probably one of the craziest things to me about pregnancy was I hated food. I still don't like food as much as I do when I'm not pregnant. Like, if I'm out and about running around all day speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: If if like if I didn't like have him moving inside me anymore, like before when I didn't feel him moving, I could like have gone all day and not had a stitch. speaker-0: He's like a reminder like fuel properly for him. Exactly. speaker-1: Exactly. Like and now I'm reminded of it so I'll eat. If I'm sitting at home, like I feel like I like will bored eat a little bit more. But if I'm like out and about, like I literally I don't get like hunger cubes and like nothing really tastes that good. Yeah. And that was something I always thought like you got pregnant and you just hear about like how much people eat. And I'm like, it's crazy, I eat less and like I don't enjoy it as speaker-0: ⁓ It'll be interesting if you end up breastfeeding, which I know I'm sure we'll get into, you know, your thoughts and then we'll follow your actual journey. ⁓ but like when I was breastfeeding, I could not get satiated. Like I was a bottomless pit. I was eating like making like, you know, like those lactation balls and having them in my fridge and having them in the middle of the night 'cause I was hungry and I like speaker-1: Heard that like you get really hungry. Well, you burn so much from speaker-0: I'm a big salad girl now for lunch. Don't even I I couldn't even think about it. I needed a sandwich. I needed like sustenance. No. speaker-1: Well did I tell you what my dad said? My dad is like the person that like he says stuff and I'm like, How did you raise two girls? ⁓ he told me last time he saw me, 'cause like I really just started showing. I'm thirty weeks now, but I really just Yeah. Like a couple weeks ago and I saw him and he was like 'cause he loves baby bumps. Like I don't know, it's just like a weird thing of my dad that he loves baby bumps and he's like So cute. ⁓ you don't really have a bump yet and I was like, I know and he like, Well speaker-0: Sorry, showing you just speaker-1: I know you're staying so skinny right now. He's like, maybe like you'll be one of those that like gets really fat postpartum. I was like ⁓ I hope not, Dad. But like Well and I I hear a lot of people do speaker-0: I put on weight. I lost the initial and then like especially when I had I think it's like three or four months is like a popular dip, right? When yeah. When that happened. And also that's when I was obviously like really picking up my fitness again and like trying to get back to work. Like I definitely was like overeating to try to compensate my milk supply. Like to help my milk supply. ⁓ and so I definitely like I look back and I'm like, ⁓ that's when I increase my calories. You can totally tell. speaker-1: Totally. speaker-0: I think And it's part of the p I process I feel like, but it it's a mind off. speaker-1: Yeah, the whole the whole thing is. I mean, even though like I haven't I've gained now like fourteen or fifteen pounds. ⁓ but for a while, like I was losing so much weight at the beginning that I was like it it just didn't even make sense in my head. Like I couldn't figure out like what was going on because I was losing weight. You don't feel a baby, you don't see a baby. I just felt so sick all the time and There's something mentally so difficult about that. Like you almost feel guilty 'cause you're like I mean, there was days when like I puked like over twenty times and I just like couldn't stop and I was like, I just want this to end so bad. And then I would like lay in bed and I would like go to say prayers or something and I'd be like, I don't want this to end. Like I'm so sorry for even like thinking that. But it you know, you don't you you're not wishing for like your pregnancy to end. You're just wishing for the sickness to stop. But still it's ⁓ you feel really guilty because there's so many people that would kill to be, you know, in the position I was in. speaker-0: Well it's interesting the priority shift that happens already like in motherhood. It happens it starts now of like them being the priority and like for you are like, ⁓ like I feel him. That's what I'm when I know I need to eat versus like an actual hunker cue. Yeah. Because you want to protect them and make them strong and support them and it's it's that's like motherhood, right? Yeah. So quickly in a in the game, right? And he's not even here yet. ⁓ Earthside, but yeah, it's crazy. I mean, I we were talking before that my daughter is going into kindergarten, which is a big step too, and you start to be like, ⁓ my God, I need to ⁓ email the principal because they asked us at orientation to send an email about their personality and all of a sudden you're like putting I don't know them first and trying to make sure speaker-1: Yeah, it's a lot. speaker-0: you know, they're set up for success best and I'm sure some parents don't do that email, but I'm like, I want that first email in his inbox after a holiday weekend. So that's he he you know, she's the first one he thinks about replacement and whatever, but it's it starts it starts early in Nero and they become our, you know, e every waking thought. speaker-1: I know. I know, definitely. And like at the beginning, you know, I'm sure you're the same way, but I'm a big planner. Mm-hmm. So in my head I was like, Okay, like we're gonna get married, then we have our honeymoon, then you know, I'll get pregnant in the next few months, and then we have like, you know, almost a year until the baby's here and our life changes. And then I got pregnant and I was like, my entire life speaker-0: No. Nesting. Where's my house? Yeah. What's the nursery color? speaker-1: Instant like my entire life changed. And not even from like a adulting standpoint of like that, but even more so of like the relationship with my husband change. I I was laying on a bathroom floor for, you know, three or four months. So everything changes so fast because you like you don't expect when you're five weeks pregnant that anything will be different and then your entire lifestyle is completely different. Which looking back on I'm like, that's fine. Like it it was all okay. But it it just hit me so fast that I at the time I don't think that I was necessarily ready for that amount of change. Like mentally it took me speaker-0: With the stab of a finger. Yeah. Basically. It's funny, I was Matt was here, Danielle's husband was here earlier and we were chatting a little bit and he was asking if my husband Mike went to all the, you know, appointments and all that stuff. And I was like, No. And he's like, Wait, what? I was like, No, Mike couldn't. He saw the heartbeat and then COVID happened. Yeah. So our take, and you know, I feel like I've talked about this quite a bit already on this podcast, but like our first experience with our for you know, my first pregnancy was so weird because it was very lonely. And but at the same time that's what started him working from home. And being were with each other every waking moment. Yeah. And he was very much a part of the pregnancy because of that. But it was very it was like, yes, he saw the physical changes and he was a part of, you know, my food adversions and like feeling sick and all that. But at the same time, then he didn't get like the payoff of like seeing her on the ultrasound. Like yeah. The first time he saw her on the ultrasound was when I was in labor. And I I'll never forget I looked over and I feel like it finally clicked for him that like, ⁓ this there's a baby in there and that. I'm gonna meet her in the next twenty four hours, whatever it is, when he saw the ultrasound. The first time they did it when I was in the labor like Yeah. So it's very different and I'm I'm so grateful he's been able to be a part of that process with you. But it's it was funny because I was like, Yeah, you don't really know what you're in for as a dad until like they're here. Like you're seeing him when you go in and get the ultra but like it's so different from them and then to your point it's kind of like for them, I think it like that speaker-1: So interesting. Yeah. speaker-0: switch happens the second you're in L and D and like they're they're out and you're like, ⁓ fuck. Yeah. It's a whole different ballgame. speaker-1: I know. I know. I've been making him go to like parenting classes. Mostly for him. Less so for me. speaker-0: I love No, but it's great that that's like available. We had our labor and delivery class. I had a luckily a L and D nurse I knew came and did a private with us again during COVID on our back deck. And she brought like the, you know, needle to for the abdural. She brought all that stuff and like showed him some stuff that now that I mean I didn't know you yet, but that you would have been able to show him like the counter pressure and all that because nothing was open. We didn't have that. So I felt like I was so gypped from like having that support. ⁓ but it's definitely it's great that you're doing that. And I think that's half the point of what we're doing. Right. speaker-1: Right. And that's why like I mean I could make him when we're in our apartment just us two, like I could like be like, Okay, here's all the things you're gonna do. Daddy do love Daddy dool. ⁓ but there's something about like when we're like in class and like I know. Thanks. I've been like making him do some some things but mostly like speaker-0: That's what I call it. Yeah, next course. speaker-1: I I just think, you know, whenever you're in a class setting, like you could focus a little more and so even though like every time we leave the class he's like, I feel like you could have taught that yourself. I'm like, Well I could have, but like you wouldn't have sat there and listened to me. Yeah. So like I'll make him go with me and and he like I think kind of enjoys it in a way, maybe. speaker-0: That's a good point. So it's a really good point. But it's a good community and that's what a lot of this is about too, I think. speaker-1: Yeah. And like one of our other friends is in it too, which is nice. So like he has a guy friend there and ⁓ but every time I look over I like the one time I was like, Are you crying? and he was like, No, my eyes were just closed speaker-0: I was like that. I feel like I mean, I feel like we're on the topic of like this identity shift, which people I think oftentimes I don't wanna say like overlook 'cause I think it's very organically just starts to happen. Yeah. but like they downplay it. Yeah. So much. I know that I downplayed it a ton with my daughter, especially as a first time mom. I was like, ⁓ speaker-1: Alright, wake up my friend. But yeah, it's been fun. Yeah. speaker-0: My life's gonna keep going normal and that's completely fine. I think my second is what was like, Whoa, now I need to slow down, now I need to ⁓ I want to say like soften a little bit. Like I feel like I was very rigid with her. Every single diaper was logged, every single bottle logged him. I was like, I've got another baby like running around 'cause they're twenty two months apart. I'm like, I don't I don't know when the last time he took a poop. Like yeah. You know what I mean? So I think if you feel open to it, like specifically we were talking the other day about like some body image changes. Like I really felt it, I feel like at this point when I 'cause I was like you, like it popped later. ⁓ and then also like you just witnessed our first hot week. And like how that also impacts things. Yeah. Mentally, physically obviously, but like mentally, like that's the exhaustion. speaker-1: Yeah. Hmm. Yeah, I've definitely like been feeling a lot more tired and even like I was doing really well with like going out for walks 'cause like I talked about, you know, working out has been really hard for me during ⁓ pregnancy just with how sick I've been. ⁓ and so I've been going out for like long walks and then with like the heat I I realized that like I really couldn't walk for as long this week. ⁓ the veins in my legs were killing me, like things like that. And yeah, with like, you know, your stomach growing, you know that it's like it needs to happen and it's a beautiful thing and like it's so great to feel the baby moving so much and stuff like that. But at the same time, when you are such an in shape person and then you look and you just see this belly on yourself for like you know, moving around the house is difficult. You know, like getting out of bed, rolling over, all of that starts to become difficult. It's mentally speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: Hiring almost like you're just so not used to it, and it's so defeating in a way. ⁓ we all speaker-0: Just had Murph, which for those who don't know, it's ⁓ a workout we do every Memorial Day weekend, the crossway community. Start with a mile, end with a mile, hundred pull-ups, two hundred push-ups, three hundred air squats in between those miles. And it was interesting. I was like kind of reflecting back because I posted a story or ⁓ on my story, a reel of me pregnant doing it a few years ago. ⁓ four years ago, to be exact. And then yesterday I did it for the first time. Four years later with a vest or whatever, two days ago. Yeah. With a vest, fully RX. And again, we'll we'll talk about this maybe later in the podcast. But I just had a surgery six months ago, which was elective. And that was kind of my goal, right? I was like, I want to be at Murph, I it vested, I want to be able to do pull-ups, push-ups, no problem. But it made me think a lot about you, us last year at this point, you and I split Murph. We had high ROCs five, six days later. speaker-1: Yeah. Mm. speaker-0: And you know, it's funny because I know that you were a little bit down on yourself about what was, you know, just some changes and all that. But like I saw you go out there anyway. And I'm gonna get emotional, like walk those few laughs, and you went in there and you moved your body anyway. And it's not, and I get that like chills because I remember it so, so much, like especially with my second, because it was a summer baby. Like the heat is when I was bringing it up. It's just, it's a different ball game being pregnant in the summer. speaker-1: High speaker-0: But I can tell you from not being on the other side of it, like it was cool for me to be doing Murph and being like, okay, this is the first time I feel like back in my body. Yeah. Fully as an athlete again. It took me four years. You know what I mean? And like last year, I think we I probably could have done it. Like you and I split it, but were in a different place in our own training and stuff. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: But I think that that's like a really like having a workout like that every year that you kind of remember, I was like, ⁓ that's kinda cool because I've done this with a belly twice. Now I'm doing it with just a vest. Yeah. Just a vest. But it was really also cool full circle to see you in a different season of your life. But knowing like I had a moment of like, shall we be back here with a fucking vest on next year or with a baby like strapped to her back? Yeah, yeah. Or like push we're gonna be like taking turns pushing him around the the block. Yes. Like we speaker-1: No way. Yeah. No, I I know. It's even like yesterday, like I said, you know, when you're in it, you're like I guess I thought that this has been this has been something that's been interesting to me is I guess I always thought that like when you see people who are like working out and they're pregnant that like they must feel so empowered. Yeah. I feel so defeated. Like every workout I do, I'm like I've never felt like weaker. I've never felt ⁓ such a lack of energy. ⁓ I've never felt pain in my body the way that I do. And I think that social media, you know, portrays working out during pregnancy as something that like is so empowering. And people are like, here's my workout for every day of my pregnancy. And They look great doing it. Like, you know, as an outsider looking in, I'm like, Wow, like they're doing such great things. Well, I can make a video of me doing Correct. You know, squats and lunges and snatches and anything I really wanted for a few reps. Yeah. But like I can't do a forty five minute workout where like my heart rate gets up and then I recover and then I push again. Like it doesn't happen. I just well speaker-0: Said before, like you can even push through a wad potentially, right? At the time you take we've taken classes together. Yeah. But then you're down for two more days after. And I think that's what Instagram doesn't show. is that yes, you can push and like put on a brave face and just be like, Yeah, I've got this. I'm rocking it. But then like the after effects, like I remember again during COVID being like, Did big man upstairs just find out that I was pregnant? This is awesome. ⁓ I can just lay on the couch and like not work all day. Like then the second one you know, going back and having another like a little running around, like I couldn't just take a nap whenever I wanted to and it beat me down fast. Like I definitely felt the fatigue and we were moving, a lot of life changes and I was just like that one wrecked me. Like I I don't want to say that lightly. Like it really took me down. Yeah. And I felt like, you know, they say like the flamingos lose their pink when they're pregnant. Like for me to get my pink back, like Took me that much longer, which was very defeating. And that's when I met you. Like I remember working out with you and being like, here comes this trick, kicking my ass. Like I should be able to fucking do this, no problem. Like I do this for a living. What's going on? I think there's an extra pressure that no one talks about in our industry. speaker-1: Well that's what it's hard when you do this for a living too. speaker-0: Of like I remember clear as day w training these three beautiful women that I had trained all through pregnancy prior, what have you. And I remember like looking at them and just being like, when am I gonna feel like like good in my body like that again? Like when am I gonna look like that again? Like the w I'm working my ass off. I'm eating so clean. And there's like definitely like a mind fuck too about, you know. I don't know, that whole aspect of it. But Yeah. I feel like you've done an amazing job, seriously, with like the what's been thrown at you 'cause there's been a lot of curveballs. Like that's really hard. And but you've been putting your best foot forward and that's all you can do. speaker-1: Yeah. I know, and and that's what like I've learned is that you have to give yourself grace and not worry so much. and I will say I was just talking to someone earlier today, ⁓ about like someone had asked me I mean a lot of people asked me like what workouts I've been doing during pregnancy and really I've been doing none besides like I said breath work. some core work and like some walking. And you know, occasional CrossFit workout that like I don't feel like I got a whole lot accomplished in. ⁓ but the one thing I will say is that I am so glad that I prepared my body for pregnancy. Agreed. Because I could not imagine if I hadn't prepared myself for this. And then I was sick for that long and I hadn't worked out in this many months. You have the foundation. Yeah. And so I think that the preparation for pregnancy happens so long before you get pregnant. and I I really I'm like I I can't imagine what this would have been like if I didn't do the things I did leading up to care. You know, for the last since we really started working out together so like what three years ago, four years ago. Mm-hmm. If I hadn't been working as hard on myself and and ⁓ you know, that in in my holistic lifestyle and all of that, I I don't think I would be okay right now. speaker-0: The pedestal, I don't think we put it on the pedestal and I don't know if it's just like a cultural thing or what have you, but the preparation for all this is so essential. And I think the little part that you just missed that I've noticed in you is also the mental, your faith, your the strength that it took mentally for you to go out on your own, like work wise, for us to collaborate, like all that too is like you're ⁓ so mentally strong. Like I speaker-1: Well thank you. I have my days. speaker-0: But like even when you have your days, like I don't know, yester whenever it was two days ago at Murph, when we were chatting a little bit before, I could see that you were having a hard ti hard day, hard time, but it's interesting, like the little small shifts, and that's what I was saying too too, is like for me when I was having like a hard day, I would just like, Well, this is my I'm going through this so that I can help more women, right? Like going through the same process. So it's those little mental shifts that like wherever you are in your pregnancy that Whether you're in fitness or you're not in fitness, right? Like putting the baby first. Like you were saying, okay, I need to fuel him. I don't want to eat right now, but like I need to make sure he's happy. Yeah. And those little small changes like kind of puts everything into perspective, which just kind of bring it full circle. Like I think that's your first lesson into motherhood. Is like you're no longer priority one. Like if they become your first and like utmost priority. So it's really hard. And that shift is challenging and then I think the men soon realize it once they're out into the room. Right. I mean they see you in in hell and they're like, ⁓ I feel so bad. But like there's nothing they can really do until like that little nugget is here. ⁓ the other thing I wanted to talk to you about today, which I think will resonate with a lot of people is like pregnancy symptoms that nobody talks about. ⁓ you were saying before that you're a little stuffy. speaker-1: Right. No, that's so true. Yeah. so stuffy like the last couple of weeks. Like it won't Yeah, like I don't even you know, it never really gets worse than like pressure and like congestion. Like I don't really ever feel like sick, like ⁓ I feel like I'm getting a fever or something. It's just like it won't go away. ⁓ we don't speaker-0: Yeah it's crazy. So like sinus pressure and you just feel sick. speaker-1: It's something about the increase in in mucus. speaker-0: I had the worst earwax testing. But one of my best friends from home was like, I always don't want pregnant. speaker-1: ⁓ really? ⁓ that's so interesting. You know what though? I'm like such you know like everyone has like those weird O C D things. Mine is that I have to take a Q tip into my ears every single morning. So do I. I know. It's like a weird like O C D thing. So maybe I don't notice if there's more earwhack just because I do it way too often. Which like I remember my doctors being like, You're not supposed to do that. I'm like, what are you just supposed to let that stuff build in there? Like it's no thanks. speaker-0: Always non negotiable. ⁓ terrible. speaker-1: God. I haven't slept at I that's I know. Well, it's so interesting. Everyone I talk to that like does have like a hard time sleeping in pregnancy is all like postpartum sleep is rough, but it's not as rough as pregnancy sleep. Because when you do get like even an hour, it's like a deep slumber. I'm like, I have not had any lovely. Yeah, like I haven't had any deep sleep. I'm usually I feel like I'm half awake. I don't know if I'm in a dream or like awake. speaker-0: Preparing you now. speaker-1: ⁓ speaker-0: Do you have a pregnancy pillow? Like the big U shaped one or like yeah. Which one do you have? speaker-1: I have the mom cozy one. speaker-0: Is that like a full like a ⁓ that's the one I had. I love that. I love that. I if I could still have that on my bed now I would. ⁓ speaker-1: It's like a wrong use. I always I I crack up in the middle of the night because like I'll lay I n you're supposed to lay more on your left side because it has better blood flow to the heart. Right. But my ribs on my right have been hurting, so actually sleeping on my right side to like open up my rib cage actually helps a little more. And I'll like go to roll on my left side and my husband's using the other side of the pregnancy pillow. And I have to like wake him up and he like he sleeps with like mouth tape on and a nose strip and like Just something about like waking up a man, a very large man with mouth tape on, like to get off your pregnancy pillow speaker-0: Literally seeing this whole scene. speaker-1: It's just so funny. But ⁓ yeah, the insomnia I'm like speaker-0: Definitely don't take that off your bed after pregnancy. Like keep it. Have you heard of this and you can then wrap it or double wrap it for the or whatever? Like lay. speaker-1: And I kinda do that Yeah, and I even do that now just like to like sit 'cause I can't really like sit on the couch that much anymore. It's just like not that comfortable. But I'll do that to like watch T V and just kind of like prop if and if I'm like doing some work with my laptop, I'll like put it on my lap and like and do that. I also will stick it, ⁓ like I'll take the corner of it and put it under my legs so that like if I do want to be a little bit on my back but not like all the way flat that like just to help like the position of my back that it like lifts my legs a little. So that's been nice. No. speaker-0: Had you had lightning crotch yet? God bless. That was bad. Do I feel like I need to like include my husband in on this, you remember? I might just be like, ⁓ It was so bad. speaker-1: So far so good. I have not had it yet, knocked on one. speaker-0: It happened like thirty like five, thirty-six weeks I wanna say. Like right before Remy came. Remy came at thirty-seven weeks. speaker-1: Well, 'cause I feel like once like like he's sitting so high right. speaker-0: Yeah. For those who don't know what lightning crutch is, I had to search it because I feel like I'm gonna butcher it and also I just have like PTSD right now. Like I'm literally squeezing my inner thighs right now together. So fucking tight. ⁓ so it's the sharp sudden electric pain or zingang that you feel in the vagina, pelvis, cervix, or groin area. ⁓ it was like straight to the vagina. Like I don't wanna be gross. So clit. speaker-1: Yeah. So much stress. Yeah. Well also I I'm curious, you know, women t to a degree get some pubic symphysis like separation. Yes. So usually lightning crotch would come with something less you accidentally like split your legs a little too fast and it like speaker-0: Like I had that too. Hundred percent. but it says yes, common causes baby dropping lower into the pelvis, pressure on nerves around the cervix. I think that was mine. Mine was just straight pressures. The second she dropped, it was bad. Baby movement, head engagement, yeah, ⁓ increased pelvis pelvic instability and ligament stretching, which it was a sharp it it's a sharp salve. Like it's speaker-1: Well usually like I tell people when they're when they are getting lightning crotch a lot, I'll tell them like when they go to roll over in bed, like you can't roll over with like your legs apart. Like you almost need to pretend that like you're you're squeezing something in between your knees as you roll so that it stabilizes your pelvis. Yeah and then which obviously I mean, now that I see I used to tell people that all the time, like, ⁓ yeah, just like roll over with your legs together. Yeah. speaker-0: Okay. So that's speaker-1: The amount that I like move during the night and I'm in half asleep and half not in asleep, like now I'm like I can't believe I told people that and like thought that they would actually be able to do it. Like I I would never be able to remember that. speaker-0: Are you doing anything for your rib cage? Are you like full rolling like what's any tips? speaker-1: I've doing a lot of like thoracic mobility. Yeah. ⁓ and honestly like the deep core stuff like opening up ⁓ opening up my thoracic spine and then following that up with like a lot of good like deep breathing and deep core activation is helpful. I started seeing this chiropractor too ⁓ because I just feel like there's only so much that I can do do on my own. Yeah, you need some help manipulating. Yeah, she's like a prenatal chiropractor and I I really like her. ⁓ and honestly I would pay just to go there and lay on the chiropractor table on my stomach because the my belly hangs down. I'm like, I'll pay I'll I'll you don't have to do anything. I'll pay for another speaker-0: Do you ever want to go get acupuncture dan ⁓ Michelle in town? Yes. ⁓ speaker-1: Literally was like I would I would just come here and lay on my stomach like this. I wanna lay on my stomach so bad. speaker-0: What are other things that you now being pregnant that you're like like I guess it's kind of how we started the whole conversation, but like what's different now than you would have treated? Like I feel like workout wise, I And someone's like I'm low energy, I'd be like, You're fine, let's just keep pushing through. You got this. You're like You can do it. When you're that fatigued. No. speaker-1: Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ You can't. ⁓ that was that's been a big thing, like with people that come in and they're like, I haven't really done much during their pre during my pregnancy and I'm like, Okay, well let's change that and now I'm like, ⁓ that's okay, me either speaker-0: So like right there with your girlfriend. Yeah. But you have that one client that you train together with who's also pregnant, which is so cute. Yeah. And partner workouts are great and that's how I used to do it a lot too. speaker-1: I'm like let's I I'll tell you like the five things. Yeah. That's better too, like when I work out with her, ⁓ or some type of like a partner workout. I could definitely do that a lot better, but same thing, like I feel like my body doesn't recover. So then the next, you know, two, three days after that I literally feel like I have like a fever almost. Like my body just doesn't recover even from like you know, partner workouts and stuff. It's almost like my body it gets like sore and it doesn't get rid of the soreness and I just feel so much worse. Like it's so much harder to move and like my core I feel like I'm conning a lot actually like after workouts. Almost because like my core gets too sore and fatigued that like it won't work throughout the day. so that's why like core work I found like versus more like functional, like bigger movements, like small breath controlled activation stuff has been a lot better for me. speaker-0: I remember also liking a lot of like and I still train a lot of my pregnant clients this way too, like a five or six round longer circuit. Yeah. That is never fatiguing like one muscle group. So you kind of feel like you can kind of push through. So I would always do like two upper moves, two lower moves, and then finish like a almost like birth birth prep like mobility. So you kind of had like a little recovery worked in and just doing it set like set the timer or whatever. ⁓ for those two things. ⁓ and then repeat it like five or six times. And that's how I train. I remember like training at the YMCA in town before having my second and I'd walk and I'd do that and then like check check and sometimes go and sit on like the big Pilates ball and like some Yeah hip circles, whatever. But that's how like I now train a lot of my clients, like s especially going to the third trimester one. It's just There's also like not a lot of fun things to do towards the end. Like you're just like your belly's in the way. Boobs are in the way. Yeah. It's like it's why I have a wonderful yoga practice typically and I used to teach yoga. Second I got pregnant, psh out the window. I'm like, I'm not just like sitting here. It just it was annoying. I can't do my deep fun twists and like flows and I know go upside down. It's a mental thing, but speaker-1: Yeah. I know. It's all so different. It totally is. Yeah. And and symptoms in pregnancy change day to day. Like I remember at like sixteen or eighteen weeks I was telling you I've horrible round ligament pain. It went away by eighteen weeks and I've never had it again. Yeah. It was like right when it was starting to stretch, like in my uter like my uterus was expanding so much that I had a ton of pain and then sure enough like speaker-0: Yes. speaker-1: it went away. And that's the one thing that I do want people to know and understand in pregnancy is that just because you have some pain twelve weeks you have sciatic pain or you start to get back pain at fifteen weeks doesn't mean that you're gonna have back pain for the rest of pregnancy. Now if you do nothing about it, yeah, you probably will. But I remember when I started to get the round ligament pain, I did some like round ligament releases, which you would have to obviously see a professional. Like people wouldn't be able to do that on their own. Or maybe they could, ⁓ if they have some type of like anatomical background. I did like more deep core work. I was really focused on like my rib expansion and like that's how I feel like I've managed my rib pain. So I I think that people get like a little Well, I understand why they get defeated now. But they get defeated being like, ⁓ I have sciatic pain and I'm only twenty something weeks along and I And I'm like I've I've cured people of sciatic pain th for the rest of their pregnancy when they come to me at like twenty something weeks because there's so many things that they can do and a lot of it comes from so much relax and so much mobility you know, their body expanding and them not having enough stability and so speaker-0: Circle back, not just a little bit. speaker-1: the work that they can do to stabilize, which is really easy activation exercises, breathing techniques, things that like I was doing on the bathroom floor in between throwing up. Yeah. They could be doing right light things like that that can actually honestly make those symptoms lessen, if not completely disappear for the rest of their pregnancy. So, you know, I do want people listening to know that like Just because something pops up during pregnancy doesn't mean that it's the end all. Yeah. Like there's so many things that you could do and a lot of things in professionals that are out there to help can actually make it so much better for the rest of pregnancy. So, you know, aches and pains pop up, but there's there's ways to help them. Yeah. speaker-0: Awesome. I feel like we can talk forever and I wanted to definitely do a ton more. I mean, I've got a few more weeks with you. Yeah. And I got all summer with you before. I mean, love this for you. ⁓ speaker-1: I know. Just a couple of weeks. He's gonna be he's gonna be big enough, I could tell. speaker-0: But I definitely wanna end up tackling on the podcast like some registry shot stuff. I know that we just had one of your little showers here, you're gonna have a big one at home. So we can talk about registry. what other things did we not cover today? I'm like kinda tell people coming down the pipeline. ⁓ labor prep. We didn't talk about it all speaker-1: ⁓ we'll get into more like labor preparation stuff, you know, the things I'm gonna be doing. I usually start labor prep at like thirty four weeks, so I'm a f we're We'll go into that and then we'll we'll also talk about like immediate postpartum and labor and delivery and all of that. ⁓ 'cause I'm sure we could sit here and do a podcast about it now and I guarantee in ten weeks I'm gonna have a very different opinion on it all. So maybe we'll just hold that off until I mean We could we could see how much my opinion changes on on all of it. speaker-0: Maybe we did it before and after. I will literally just FaceTime you in with from the hospital so it's just fresh. speaker-1: And we'll be able to do a comparison of, you know, what I thought before and what I thought after. 'Cause I'm sure if we did one of these pre pregnancy, I would be like, I am never taking medication. I'm gonna be working out my whole pregnancy. I've taken anti nausea meds every day. Since speaker-0: And completely fine. Yeah. speaker-1: So it all changes speaker-0: We'll check back in. More episodes coming.