Latest / Float: The Anxiety Podcast with Dr John Eaton PhD / Catastrophizing: Seeing Through It
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- 0:00If you're listening to this podcast, you might be familiar with the way your
- 0:03brain turns a problem into a catastrophe.
- 0:07Say you get a bill you didn't expect. A large one. Naturally,
- 0:12there's a problem there. Finding the money to pay it.
- 0:16But that's not the way the alarm mechanism in your brain sees it.
- 0:20Rather than helpful advice, you'll be given a stream of anxious feelings and
- 0:24some doom-laden predictions.
- 0:27You're going under. You'll be bankrupt soon. You can't cope with all this stress.
- 0:33In less than 30 seconds, you might even have a panic attack.
- 0:36Along the way, you might also get a disaster movie to look at.
- 0:40That catastrophizes it. But here's the interesting thing.
- 0:45It doesn't altogether seem like your brain has gone off the rails.
- 0:49Rather, it looks like it's showing you what's going to happen.
- 0:53In this podcast we will explore ways to see through that deception and then to float by it.
- 1:11Welcome back to Float, I am Dr. John Egan, and at the core of catastrophizing
- 1:16lies the fact that your brain is a prediction engine, constantly trying to work
- 1:22out what might happen next.
- 1:25But when it produces anxiety, that's a sign that your brain is on the wrong track.
- 1:31Sometimes its everyday life predictions can be helpful.
- 1:36You wouldn't want to walk across a busy street without your brain making predictions,
- 1:41about where the traffic is going.
- 1:43You wouldn't want to start a journey without some idea of how to get there.
- 1:47But managing finance is an open-ended problem with no final outcome.
- 1:52Plus, it's linked to your security, precisely the combination,
- 1:58which lends itself to catastrophizing.
- 2:01Because when uncertainty is high and security is lower, The brain has a rather predictable habit.
- 2:09It starts filling in the blanks, usually with the worst outcome it can imagine.
- 2:15You don't know right now where you're going to find the money,
- 2:19so your brain supplies you with the catastrophic thought that you're never going to find it.
- 2:24You don't know right now exactly when the bill will be paid,
- 2:29so the storyteller in your brain tells you when the bailiffs are going to arrive.
- 2:33By this point, you might be feeling more than a little answer.
- 2:38And the moment your brain notices that, it sends you another prediction.
- 2:43You're heading for a breakdown.
- 2:45And then the brain shows you that very thing happening in a movie.
- 2:51And suddenly the future stops being something that might happen.
- 2:55It becomes something you can almost see and taste.
- 2:58And this is what I want to explore with you today.
- 3:02I want you to learn to recognize the difference between the future and your
- 3:07brain's projections about it.
- 3:10They are not the same thing.
- 3:12Let's suppose you're worried about an important meeting at work, this week or next week.
- 3:18You might start thinking, well, if they ask me a question, I can't answer.
- 3:23And then something weird happens. You don't necessarily just think the words.
- 3:29You might actually see yourself sitting around the table.
- 3:32Your boss is looking at you. You hear the question.
- 3:36You imagine yourself stumbling over the answer. You see the other people staring
- 3:41at the disappointment or frustration.
- 3:44Then your movie jumps forward to what follows. People are talking about you behind your back.
- 3:50She wasn't very good, was she, says one. It was rubbish, says the other.
- 3:56And then perhaps a final scene appears. You're back at your desk.
- 4:01You're called into your manager's office. You're told your performance isn't good enough.
- 4:07And then you may even flip to one more center where you're scrolling online
- 4:10at midnight looking for another job. Now stop for a moment.
- 4:15None of this happens. You're sitting somewhere, maybe in your kitchen,
- 4:19your office, or walking down the road.
- 4:23But your brain has produced a film that wouldn't even raise a B-movie.
- 4:27That's catastrophizing too.
- 4:30Because the brain has taken uncertainty and weaved a disaster story around it.
- 4:36In 3D imagery accompanied by a soundtrack and a crap script,
- 4:41leaving you worried, frightened and filled with dread about what might happen.
- 4:46Here the brain has another trick, which is to build new predictions from old memories.
- 4:52Suppose that ten years ago you had an argument with someone close to you,
- 4:56the relationship ended and you were hurt.
- 5:00Now you are having another argument, or you've just had another argument.
- 5:05With a partner or a friend or someone in your family.
- 5:09And your brain takes the old memory, copies it, and then turns it into a film
- 5:14about what happens next to the new argument.
- 5:17An angry face, a voice telling you that you will never meet again,
- 5:21and then cut to the scene in which you are on your own. Notice what happens.
- 5:26A memory gets dressed up as a prophecy. Because the memory arrives with the
- 5:31old anxious feeling attached, the forecast feels convincing.
- 5:35In the same way, a documentary seems accurate because it uses real-life locations.
- 5:42So, what can we do about all these tricks?
- 5:46Well, this is where the title of today's podcast comes in. Seeing through it.
- 5:52One thing I will ask you not to do is to argue with those catastrophic thoughts and movies.
- 5:57Doing that will only cue your brain to show them to you again,
- 6:01just in case you don't get the message.
- 6:03Instead, I want you to look at the whole thing as if it had nothing to do with you.
- 6:08Rather like the slightly boring video someone shared with you on WhatsApp.
- 6:13Just notice the substandard movie your brain is producing, as if it grew on
- 6:18a very small screen, the sun is a postage stamp.
- 6:22Notice the projections into the future, the imagery, the script,
- 6:27the memory traces, the feeling.
- 6:31I noticed that they are on the poster stamp. You don't have to follow it or finish the story.
- 6:37There may be a real-life problem that you need dealing with today,
- 6:41and if there is, you can deal with that. The movie isn't going to stop you.
- 6:46There's something else to notice as well. When a catastrophic image appears,
- 6:50or an alarming thought, or an anxious sensation,
- 6:54I know as your eyes used to do something about it, to check something,
- 6:58search online, ask somebody, Work out what it all means. Make the fall go away.
- 7:04But each of those responses tells the brain, yes, this is important.
- 7:10Keep looking, keep tracking, keep worrying.
- 7:13And the brain loop continues. And why not try something simpler?
- 7:18Notice what's being presented to you.
- 7:21Watch how your brain produces it. Then float by it.
- 7:25You don't have to engage with it or finish the story. The ending can stay unfinished.
- 7:30Because no one knows the ending, and that's just fine.
- 7:34And this is where catastrophizing meets float. Floating doesn't mean you stop
- 7:39caring about genuine problems.
- 7:42It just means you cease treating every stray projection as a guide to the future.
- 7:48Your brain will go on producing wayward predictions. That is what brains do.
- 7:53You don't have to like it. You only need to notice it and say to yourself,
- 7:58There's the phone, there's the forecast, there's the old memory being used again.
- 8:03That's the catastrophe.
- 8:06Then look back to what's happening now, the room you are sitting in,
- 8:10the person you are talking to, the task in front of you, the day you are living.
- 8:16The future has not happened yet. When it does arrive, you will have the reality
- 8:21at that moment to deal with, rather than the version of your brain advantage
- 8:25six hours, six days or six months earlier.
- 8:29So, the next time you catch yourself listening or watching one of these scenarios,
- 8:34don't ask, how do I stop thinking about this?
- 8:38Instead, ask yourself this, what's really going on here? And just look at it.
- 8:45When you see the machinery of the projection, you are no longer inside the catastrophe.
- 8:51You are simply watching your brain create one, and that's the beginning of steering
- 8:56through it before you pass on by and that is the heart of float.
- 9:03Let the mind fantasize about the future while you go on living in the present.
- 9:09I'm Dr. John Eaton. Thank you for listening.