Latest / The Diversity Career Podcast with Fexingo: Inclusion, Equity, and Underrepresented Professionals / How Returnships Rewire Career Comebacks
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- Lucas: Let’s talk about the invisible cliff many professionals hit around age thirty-five or forty, specifically when they take time off for caregiving. It’s not just a pause; it’s a structural reset that the traditional corporate ladder doesn’t know how to handle. Luna: Right, and for women especially, that gap is often framed as a lack of ambition rather than a life decision, which completely warps how recruiters assess their value later on. Lucas: Exactly. That’s why we’ve seen a massive surge in returnship programs over the last five years. These are structured pathways designed to bring people back into the workforce after a break of eighteen months or more, offering training, mentorship, and a clear path to full-time roles. Luna: On paper, it sounds like a win-win: companies get diverse talent with experience, and candidates get a foot back in the door without starting from zero. Lucas: But here’s the thing I keep noticing in the data: while participation numbers are up, long-term retention and promotion rates for returnship alumni are stagnating. They’re getting hired, but they’re not climbing at the same rate as peers who didn’t take a break. Luna: So you’re suggesting these programs might be creating a two-tier system where returnees are valued for diversity optics but capped in actual leadership potential? Lucas: Precisely. The issue isn’t the entry point; it’s the trajectory. Most returnships are short-term contracts, usually six to nine months, ending with a full-time offer. But once that contract ends, the sponsor disappears, and the employee is dropped back into the standard review cycle without the network support they had during the program. Luna: That makes sense because those first few months are critical for building informal influence, and being treated as a temporary project participant signals something specific to the rest of the team. Lucas: It does. And there’s also the skills gap problem. If someone was out for three years in tech or finance, their hard skills have depreciated significantly. The returnship tries to fix that with workshops, but real-world application requires ongoing coaching that most companies aren’t budgeting for. Luna: I wonder if this is also an issue of perception among managers. If a director sees someone coming back from a break, do they assume they’re rusty, or do they assume they’re highly motivated? Lucas: It’s rarely the latter unless the manager has been trained otherwise. Most middle management operates on heuristic shortcuts. A gap is read as risk. Without explicit sponsorship from senior leadership, that risk perception becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Luna: So the solution isn’t just better onboarding for the returnee, but aggressive education for the people managing them? Lucas: Yes, and it has to start before the person even joins. Companies need to normalize the concept of non-linear careers in their internal communications. When everyone knows that taking a break is a recognized part of the professional lifecycle, it removes the stigma. Luna: That’s a cultural shift, not just an HR policy. It requires leaders to model vulnerability by sharing their own gaps or supporting others openly. Lucas: Right. And speaking of modeling, let’s look at compensation. Some returnship programs still treat re-entry roles as junior positions, regardless of the candidate’s prior level. This resets their salary band and can set them back years in earning potential. Luna: That feels counterproductive. You’re asking someone to sacrifice financial stability for the chance to prove themselves, which disproportionately affects those who can least afford to wait. Lucas: Absolutely. The best programs I’ve seen guarantee salary continuity or provide a bridge stipend that matches their previous compensation level for the duration of the returnship. It signals that their market value hasn’t vanished just because they stepped away. Luna: That’s a huge differentiator. It changes the dynamic from charity to investment. The company is investing in a known quantity, not gambling on a novice. Lucas: It does. And it ties back to the sponsorship model we discussed earlier. Sponsorship requires political capital. Leaders won’t spend that capital on someone they perceive as a temporary experiment. Salary parity helps establish them as permanent assets immediately. Luna: So, if you’re a professional considering a returnship, what should you look for? Is it just the salary guarantee, or is there more? Lucas: Look for the exit strategy. Ask explicitly: what percentage of past returnship participants were promoted within twelve months of completion? If the company can’t give you that number, or if it’s low, run. Luna: That’s a powerful metric. It forces the employer to be accountable for the outcome, not just the intake. Lucas: Also, check the composition of the cohort. Are they returning to the same function they left, or are they being redirected into new roles? Redirected roles can be valuable for pivoting, but they carry higher risk if you don’t have the foundational skills. Luna: True. A pivot is a choice. Being sidelined into a peripheral role because your original department wasn’t ready to take you back is a failure of integration. Lucas: Exactly. We need to stop treating returnships as a niche diversity initiative and start treating them as a core talent strategy. The demographic reality is that more people will take breaks throughout their careers due to aging parents, health issues, or changing family structures. Luna: This isn’t just about gender anymore. It’s about longevity. If companies want to retain experienced talent for longer, they need infrastructure that supports life’s interruptions. Lucas: Well said. Before we dive deeper into the mechanics of sponsorship, I want to pause for a moment. If we've helped you think through a career move or decision, a couple of dollars a month is genuinely what keeps these going. You can find us at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. It’s small support, but it makes a big difference in keeping this ad-free. Luna: Yeah, it really does help us stay independent and focus on the quality of research without chasing clicks. Thanks for listening. Lucas: Back to the sponsorship question. Because once the returnee is in, they need an advocate. Mentorship gives advice. Sponsorship opens doors. For someone coming back from a gap, mentorship alone isn’t enough. Luna: Because mentors can’t pull strings in closed-door meetings. Only sponsors can do that, and they only do it for people they believe in. Lucas: Right. So the question becomes: how do you build trust fast enough to secure a sponsor in a compressed timeframe? Most returnships try to pair you with a mentor, but rarely with a C-level or vp level sponsor. Luna: That seems like a structural blind spot. Why wouldn’t executives be directly involved in the success of these high-potential re-entry hires? Lucas: Usually, it’s because of liability concerns. Leaders worry that if they sponsor someone who struggles, it reflects poorly on their judgment. But that fear creates inertia. The best programs remove that friction by framing the sponsorship as a shared responsibility. Luna: Shared responsibility means the leader is invested in the training process, not just the final output. It turns the relationship into a partnership rather than a gamble. Lucas: Precisely. And it requires the organization to measure the sponsor’s performance based on the protégé’s success, not just their own quarterly goals. Align incentives, align outcomes. Luna: It’s fascinating how much of this comes down to simple economics. If the cost of turnover is high, then the investment in re-entry structure pays for itself quickly. Lucas: It does. Retaining institutional knowledge is cheaper than recruiting new talent, especially in specialized fields. The barrier isn’t money; it’s mindset. Leaders need to see gaps as periods of growth, not loss. Luna: Or perhaps as periods of diversification. Life experience brings soft skills—resilience, negotiation, empathy—that are incredibly valuable in leadership roles. Lucas: Agreed. But those skills remain invisible until the framework exists to highlight them. Until then, the resume gap remains the dominant narrative. Luna: So the onus is on the industry to rewrite that narrative, one returnship program at a time. Lucas: One program at a time, yes. But ultimately, it’s about normalizing the idea that a career is a marathon with stops, not a linear sprint. Luna: And if we can’t figure that out, we’re going to lose some of our best talent to competitors who finally do. Lucas: That’s the risk. The question is whether organizations will adapt before the labor shortage makes it impossible to ignore.