Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / How to Spot Serious Customers (and Stop Wasting Your Time)
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- 0:00Hello and welcome to the podcast.
- 0:03Today I'm going to keep talking about how to figure out if
- 0:07you're dealing with a serious prospect, if you're dealing with
- 0:10a serious potential customer, excuse me.
- 0:14Now, this is a really important topic in sales because when
- 0:19you're trying to grow a business, when you are a
- 0:22founder, when you are a salesperson and in the early
- 0:26days, you have limited time. It's not as if you have a
- 0:28massive team behind you. It's really, really important
- 0:32and it's really, really critical who you're going to be investing
- 0:34time with, who you're going to be spending time with.
- 0:36You don't want to spend time chasing after 20 people in a
- 0:40week. And it turns out that out of
- 0:42that, 2015 of them were just curious.
- 0:46Therefore, out of the remaining 5, three of them are broke out.
- 0:50Of the remaining two who had money, one of them was just
- 0:55doing research. So if you find that that's how
- 0:59you've been spending your time, then excuse me, it's going to be
- 1:04demoralizing for you, obviously. And at the end of the day,
- 1:08you're not going to get much revenue because you wasted two
- 1:13weeks talking to 20 people and out of the 2019 of them were
- 1:18never, ever going to buy at all. As in like there was no hope.
- 1:25There was no hope that they were never going to buy.
- 1:29The thing is just that you did not know that they were going to
- 1:33buy. So if we can come up with a way
- 1:37for figuring out quickly who is likely to buy, who is not likely
- 1:42to buy, we can't quickly shift the 19 people that we know for
- 1:48sure are not likely to buy and then look for 19 other people to
- 1:53talk to. So when we start doing these
- 1:57things, who is likely to buy my product, who is likely to buy my
- 2:00service? Then over time, the outlook, the
- 2:04trajectory for our businesses improve.
- 2:07So this is the reason why I say if you listen to the podcast and
- 2:10you implement some of the things that we talk about over here,
- 2:13it's not as if you become a millionaire overnight, but you
- 2:16start implementing a bunch of stuff today and then next month
- 2:21or in two months, you notice that my bank account is kind of
- 2:25heavy. My bank account is getting
- 2:27heavier. Before, my bank account was
- 2:30anorexic. Now my bank account is putting
- 2:33on some muscle. So how OK.
- 2:38Now if you've been listening to the podcast for the last 2-3
- 2:40weeks, you've already heard me talk a lot about conversation
- 2:43frameworks. In particular, you've heard me
- 2:46talk about bank. Bank is budget, authority, need
- 2:50and timeline. That is the framework that
- 2:53guides you through conversations with people to make sure that
- 2:56you're talking about money. That is budget.
- 2:59Do these people have money? Do they have a realistic price
- 3:02expectation? Then a authority.
- 3:06Are we talking to someone who is capable of making a decision?
- 3:11Because there's no point in talking to the houseboy if
- 3:14houseboy cannot authorize the contract.
- 3:16You're better off trying to see how you can talk to Auger
- 3:19direct, talk to the person who is in charge, who can make sure
- 3:25that this thing will happen. Then need do these people even
- 3:29have a serious problem? Because if they're talking to
- 3:33you and they're asking all the right questions, but at the end
- 3:36of the day, they don't really have a need.
- 3:38You know, they're just doing research.
- 3:40They're just curious. They're just whatever it is, but
- 3:43they're not going to buy then timeline.
- 3:47Timeline is when are they getting ready to take action, Is
- 3:51there going to be, when are they going to take action and is
- 3:55there any genuine urgency? Can we figure out if there's
- 3:58something that is going to happen today, tomorrow, next,
- 4:02tomorrow, next year, whenever that will cause this, that will
- 4:05increase the odds that these people are going to take action.
- 4:10So if you're talking to people who have the right money
- 4:11expectations, the person has the authority to say yes, let's go
- 4:15ahead and do this thing. Let me make the deposit.
- 4:19The person has a genuine need. They're not just doing research.
- 4:22And then there's a sense of urgency.
- 4:24They're getting ready to take action, you know, next week,
- 4:26next year, whatever. OK, then good.
- 4:29The chances of close of us closing the deal go up.
- 4:34So if you've been listening to this podcast for the last month,
- 4:36I'm sure you're tired of me talking about bands.
- 4:38So don't worry, I'm not going to talk about bands today.
- 4:43I will only talk about just one small aspect of bands and that
- 4:47is T that is timeline. The reason why is I'm
- 4:54interacting with a bunch of you and it looks like, OK, you guys
- 4:58are understanding where I'm coming from.
- 5:01You understand why these things are important.
- 5:04You started asking a couple of questions, but you guys are
- 5:08failing to take it one step further.
- 5:12You're forgetting to ask why. You ask about people's money,
- 5:19expectations and their budget, but you don't ask them why.
- 5:24You ask about people's needs. They tell you that, oh, OK, I
- 5:28need this thing. I need this thing.
- 5:30You don't ask why. You ask about timelines, but
- 5:37you're not asking why. And the problem is this, if he
- 5:43has timeline, the person gives you timeline.
- 5:45You didn't ask why when it comes to follow up, you will not have
- 5:51the full confidence that you need to follow this person.
- 5:57Like if it's close marking that is required, you won't have the
- 6:00full confidence to give this person close marking and be
- 6:02calling them every two, two days.
- 6:06Or if you're going to follow them, like play and relax, you'd
- 6:10be calling them one one month. You won't have the full
- 6:14confidence, the full backing, the full you understand to be
- 6:19able to pursue. Let me give you one concrete
- 6:23example. I'm talking to someone who OK,
- 6:29well if you've been listening for last month, you already know
- 6:31I was talking to Cinderella, not her real name, who sells solar
- 6:35in Lagos. I saw Cinderella.
- 6:37I was talking with someone and she said the person's timeline
- 6:40is 3 weeks. I said OK, cool, no problem.
- 6:43And I asked her why. She said I don't know.
- 6:51I repeat, I asked her what is the person's timeline, when is
- 6:54he getting ready to take action? She said three weeks.
- 6:57I say why? She said she doesn't know.
- 7:01In this situation, if somebody said they're getting ready to
- 7:03take action in three weeks, but you don't know why, can you see
- 7:07how even though three weeks is close, you will be hesitant to
- 7:11call? You won't know, like, am I being
- 7:14an irritant or not? Am I being reasonable in chasing
- 7:19this guy or not or chasing this baby?
- 7:25So it's not just enough to ask the questions, but we need to
- 7:27take things a step further and ask why.
- 7:30So if you're like Cinderella and you're in the solar space and
- 7:35you ask the person, oh, when are you think I'll have?
- 7:37When are you thinking of having this solar and investor system
- 7:41installed? And the person says, oh, in
- 7:42three weeks. You say, oh, OK, you note it
- 7:44down in three weeks, but you don't ask why.
- 7:50You have the full lever to follow up on this person.
- 7:53You won't because they didn't ask why.
- 7:56Now there is another person who used to sell solar.
- 8:00She's no longer in the solar space.
- 8:02And she took this my advice. And she asked the person, oh,
- 8:05how soon are you thinking of having this installed?
- 8:08And the person said September. And she said, oh, you don't mind
- 8:14my asking why? Excuse me?
- 8:18And the person said, oh, my family is relocating.
- 8:24Now. She had done a good job of
- 8:26building rapport with the person because I always advised that we
- 8:28should build rapport and we should be conversational.
- 8:31So when she said, when he said my family is relocating back, of
- 8:33course she said, ah, you people are coming back when some of us
- 8:38are trying to run away and they leftover.
- 8:41I said, my sister, that it's not that everything is not pure like
- 8:46you're seeing it that sure, I'm bringing my family back and you
- 8:52know, the children they were born outside, so they're not
- 8:56used to some kind things. So if wifey and the kids come
- 9:01back and they meet this kind NEPA Valhalla that was seeing
- 9:05now, it won't be easy, it won't be sweet.
- 9:12So this other person, let's call her, what name should we call
- 9:16her? Cynthia.
- 9:18So this other person, Cynthia, she asked how soon are you
- 9:24looking at having your solar anniversary system installed?
- 9:27The person said September. She said, hope you don't mind me
- 9:30asking why? And the person said, my wife and
- 9:33my kids, they are coming back. I came first to smoothen the
- 9:39weight, make everything comfortable, make everything
- 9:42smooth. And I want my children who are
- 9:46born outside and who have never heard of NEPA to come and start
- 9:49facing some kind of things. So for Cynthia, when we were
- 9:55chasing that guy, can you see that we could chase him with our
- 9:59full chest? Because Olga, you said you want
- 10:04this thing to be done by September.
- 10:09Auger, if we are to meet this September date, we need this and
- 10:14this and this to be on ground before then.
- 10:17So therefore, you should have transferred the money by this
- 10:20particular date. In that case, we knew very well.
- 10:26We know the timeline and we know that there's a sense of urgency.
- 10:29We know what it is tied to. It gives us the full confidence,
- 10:33the full authority to be chasing after this guy.
- 10:36And when we are the scope will be bronze September donor Como
- 10:44routine says September day 5 August see September is just in
- 10:49two months. So that kind of person we can
- 10:53stay on the ball because we know why.
- 10:57If somebody just says, excuse me, If somebody just says
- 11:00September, well, the person just says 2 weeks.
- 11:03We say, OK, no problem. Just note it down.
- 11:06When the time comes to call, you'll be lacking in confidence.
- 11:12Am I doing this right? I don't know.
- 11:14Am I justified in following up with this person like this?
- 11:17I don't know. What kind of emotional strings
- 11:24should I pull out? You know, I don't know.
- 11:26I have nothing because I didn't ask why.
- 11:29So yes, I'm glad that you are listening to the podcast and I'm
- 11:32glad that you are learning and you're improving and you're
- 11:35asking some things. But if you ask somebody, how
- 11:38soon are you looking at having XYZ installed?
- 11:42What possible start date did you have in mind?
- 11:45When did you plan to have this sorted?
- 11:47By when would you like for us to start?
- 11:52Do you have any start dates in mind?
- 11:56Is this something that you want to begin in the next quarter of
- 12:00the year? Is this something you want to
- 12:03wrap up by the end of the year? You know any different way that
- 12:06we can be asking questions that will help us to tease out a
- 12:10timeline from this person so that we know their own calendar?
- 12:15Because you are chasing somebody who are doing follow up.
- 12:17Follow up is not according to our calendar.
- 12:19Follow up is according to the other person's calendar.
- 12:24That's all. Tell us for sure or relax is the
- 12:28other person's calendar. It is not our own.
- 12:32That is the difference between being a professional and being a
- 12:34pest. If you're looking at your own
- 12:38calendar or more month end in Hong Kong and need money.
- 12:42I need money, I need money. You'll be calling everybody,
- 12:45you'll be buzzing everybody's. You will be a pest.
- 12:50But if you're following their own calendar, you're following
- 12:54their own priorities, following their own agenda, following
- 12:56their own timeline, you're a professional and you're keeping
- 12:59everybody in step, keeping everybody in queue, keeping
- 13:03everybody in lock. So it's not just enough to say,
- 13:10when would you like us to start? How soon would you like this to
- 13:14be installed? It's not just enough to say that
- 13:16you can say, OK, sorry. I hope you don't mind me asking.
- 13:19I'm curious why and they hear what they have to say.
- 13:27Sometimes there's some things that you can use and guess so
- 13:31for like for Cinderella, again, not her real name.
- 13:36When the person said three weeks, my own guess is maybe the
- 13:40person is tiny to the rainy season.
- 13:41That's my own guess. So in that situation, instead of
- 13:44saying also, I hope you don't mind me asking why, you know, I
- 13:48would just say that, Oh, so is it because of the rainy season
- 13:52and, you know, hear what the person has to say.
- 13:59But if somebody just says September, 3 weeks, how soon
- 14:05would you like us to start Seven weeks time?
- 14:07You didn't ask why. Honestly speaking, when it comes
- 14:11to the follow up, how often should you pursue this person?
- 14:17You won't know. I'm not pursuing with too much
- 14:21force. You won't know.
- 14:24OK, I'm stuck. I've run out of ideas.
- 14:26What kind of possible ideas can I use to revive this
- 14:29conversation? You won't know.
- 14:32So it's not just enough to take all these frameworks that we
- 14:34talk about and then ask on a surface level.
- 14:39Learn to start asking why to get the real reason behind it.
- 14:44It will help us. Selling is a creative endeavor,
- 14:47so we need to use our creative juices.
- 14:50The only way you can exercise your creative juices is if you
- 14:53have something that you can use to create a pond in the first
- 14:55place. So if you ask the average
- 15:00Nigerian what's your budget, let's say you're using bands,
- 15:04you say what's your budget? Every Nigerian is not going to
- 15:05tell you anything. They'll say tell me how much you
- 15:08can do it for. So we look for more creative
- 15:10ways of doing this. One way that I've been talking
- 15:14about the last month is to use a range, which is to say, OK Sir,
- 15:17based on all the things we've spoken about so far, it looks
- 15:21like we can sort this at the top range of about let's say 450,000
- 15:29naira and on the lower end maybe about 380,000 naira.
- 15:35Does that match with the other quotes that you're looking at at
- 15:38the moment? So me asking now does that match
- 15:41with the other quotes you're looking at at the moment?
- 15:43You know, it's a much, it's a much more stylistic way of
- 15:47asking the person that was your budget or how much is in your
- 15:49hand or what are you looking at? If I'm able to ask questions
- 15:57like that, I'm able to pull out a range of figures and it looks
- 16:00like we are comfortable talking. It still would be nice to know
- 16:04the why. Oh, OK.
- 16:07Oh, cool. OK.
- 16:08I'm glad we're in the same ballpark.
- 16:12But Sir, those figures that you got, you know, I'm just curious,
- 16:17you know, how did you come across the other firm or which
- 16:21other company are you talking to or you know, asking the why
- 16:26behind it? You never know what kind of
- 16:30information you're going to on Earth.
- 16:35So trying to figure out the why, trying to figure out the deeper
- 16:39reason, trying to figure out the deeper motivation behind all
- 16:43these issues, that's the way to go.
- 16:46Usha, if you're like Cinderella and you've been practicing
- 16:51timeline, timeline, timeline and you have started asking people
- 16:55when, when would you like us to start?
- 16:58When are you looking at installing XYZ?
- 17:00When did you plan to have this installed?
- 17:04If you started asking those sorts of questions, Very good.
- 17:07I'm glad that you have. Please don't forget to try and
- 17:12ask the why and figure out the reason behind it.
- 17:17Because when we find out a time frame, when we find out a
- 17:21timeline, the real urgency is going to come from the why.
- 17:27And that is what will give us the confidence that we are
- 17:30following up, that we are following through, that we are
- 17:33chasing, that we are pursuing, that we are close marking that
- 17:36we are, you know, whatever it is you want to call it, that we're
- 17:40doing it the right way. So always find out why.
- 17:44So that's all for today. Thank you very much for
- 17:46listening. Thanks for your time and
- 17:48attention. If you'd love to connect with
- 17:49me, you can call me, send me a text message or a WhatsApp
- 17:52message on 08064662140. If you want me to audit any of
- 17:58your business processes or your frameworks, then call me, send
- 18:02me a text message or a WhatsApp message on 08064662140.
- 18:09Then yeah, if you want to be, if you want to join my WhatsApp
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- 18:16you up. So that's it, I'll catch you all
- 18:19some other time.