Latest / The Spin Podcast / James Sprague's MODE Classic, TYR Cup Review, CrossFit Games season changes bad?
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- 0:32Welcome to the spin. Jeez, you always.
- 0:35If I didn't know any better, I'd say you guys are sponsored by
- 0:37Frog Grips. We are code spin saves you 15%
- 0:42on some frog grips. The stickiest out there I think.
- 0:45You probably don't agree with that though, but you know.
- 0:48I heard they're I heard they're great.
- 0:50I got my I got my own grips I used.
- 0:51But hey I'm not a hater. I'm trying to figure out which
- 0:54grips work best for the the log muscle UPS.
- 0:56Right now I can't seem to figure it out.
- 0:59Big hands. Big hands, but dude, my buddy
- 1:03who's like 150 lbs and you know, not wearing grips at all, Small
- 1:08hands, he's like doing like set to five, like a joke.
- 1:12And I'm like what am I doing wrong?
- 1:14So I think it's because you you have such a good swing like log
- 1:20muscle UPS. You notice the people who do
- 1:22muscle UPS stricter are the better ones at them.
- 1:25Ricky, Ricky is probably the best one at log muscle UPS, but
- 1:28it's because he like does like a muscle Kip.
- 1:31It's not a big swing Kip. You've always been very flowy
- 1:36with all of your pulling movements, you know what I mean?
- 1:38You get as much swing as you can.
- 1:40That's why you have very good pulling endurance.
- 1:43That doesn't equal a good log muscle up, you know what I mean?
- 1:47Be less efficient you. Gotta just eat that truly.
- 1:50I mean, watch Ricky, watch Ricky do them.
- 1:52He looks he looks bad, but they're they're but he does 2 at
- 1:56a time and you keep that forever.
- 1:58Where you guys that are good at gymnastics, it hurts.
- 2:02It's that season where I feel like I'm just like going to the
- 2:05gym and I'm like, I have to mess around with some weird implement
- 2:08because that's always rogue like you, you just do, you know, we
- 2:10can expect the the log, maybe the pegboard this year, you
- 2:14know, some weird sandbag movement, who knows?
- 2:17So I'm just like, I'm in that mess around phase where I'm just
- 2:20trying to trying to be versatile.
- 2:21You know, messing with your phone just.
- 2:23Yeah, I need to get a better stand.
- 2:26I need to get better set up for my studio because I just leaned
- 2:29my phone on it. Especially if you're going to be
- 2:31doing boys interrupted more often, you need to get some
- 2:34professional. I mean, the boys have done the
- 2:37last four out of the six podcasts without me.
- 2:40So I don't, I don't know, man. Well, hey, I think they've just
- 2:45been busy with their Waza stuff. And if I would have been on
- 2:47those, it would have been weird because I'm like, I'm not on the
- 2:49team. So I you just there.
- 2:51Yeah, I'm like, oh, hey guys. I mean, Tier probably has their
- 2:55contract that you're not allowed on at that time, yeah.
- 2:58That's what I shot on sight. Shout out, shout out, shout out
- 3:01to your. Hey, you look good in the
- 3:03stripes. Though.
- 3:04You should start your Adidas podcast dude.
- 3:08If that happens again, I'm, I'm freaking quitting, dude.
- 3:12I should, I honestly, you know, I, I think that, you know,
- 3:16there's so many things that I could do with that partnership.
- 3:21Yeah, get get you and I. Announced it, so I don't even
- 3:24know if I'm an athlete yet. Well, you guys know.
- 3:26You gotta put it out into the ether that way.
- 3:28Just I was. Just saying, you look.
- 3:30You just like Adidas. I'm just saying I do.
- 3:33Yeah. You, you and I should start a
- 3:34podcast. And you know, if you know, you
- 3:36want to figure out how to, you know, get me an Adidas shirt
- 3:39like, I'll hop on too. It'll only cost you $50,000,
- 3:42Sir. John, whatever it is. $50,000
- 3:45and John is yours. Oh my gosh, yes.
- 3:48What have you guys been doing today?
- 3:50What's the days look like for y'all?
- 3:53It's busy, but not much news out there.
- 3:57I had a, a big machine battle today with some of the boys at,
- 4:01at my gym. I got a lot of big guys that go
- 4:03to my gym, very just average guys that go to the gym that are
- 4:07big guys. They're not elite athletes or
- 4:09anything, but you know, a lot of 62240 dad bods out there that
- 4:13can rock machines pretty good. And it was a, a vicious battle
- 4:17today. It was and I I felt very proud
- 4:19of my effort. Come on.
- 4:21It was a 10 minute, 10 minute AMRAP ski.
- 4:24Rest 2 minutes 10 minute AMRAP row, rest 2 minutes 10 minute
- 4:28AMRAP bike. Go home.
- 4:30Your your score is total cows. That doesn't sound like your
- 4:33kind of workout at all. That's what I I, I was very I
- 4:37yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, again, these are not elite
- 4:39athletes. I mean spend my, Yeah, well,
- 4:44I'm, I'm the best one at my gym by quite a bit.
- 4:46So I like, it's like these are just people trying to get
- 4:48fitter, right? And they have, you know, they
- 4:49work 9 to 5 jobs, got families, but one of the, they all just
- 4:57came out real hot man. Everybody did really good in the
- 4:59ski. And then by the time you got to
- 5:01the bike, nobody had anything left.
- 5:04And I, I went very conservative and then I went really hard on
- 5:07the bike. I was 160 on the ski, 161 on the
- 5:11rower and then 184 on the bike. Do.
- 5:14You think you think a really good athlete of machines could
- 5:18get like 7:50 on that or no way? I think so.
- 5:22What's that? 250 apiece?
- 5:24Yeah. No, no, because I know 10 minute
- 5:28AMRAP on a bike, on an EE bike, Echo bike.
- 5:31Yeah, I know. Dallon's pushing 2:45, so that
- 5:34means that's around what all of you are, and that's 110 minutes.
- 5:38No way you're doing that. I did AI did a 238 back in high
- 5:43school, but I haven't done it since.
- 5:45So that's five years ago I think.
- 5:47I think I could reach that 270 mark now, but it would suck.
- 5:51At the end. Not the end, no, no, probably.
- 5:54That's what I'm saying. You're skiing and rowing before
- 5:56man. Yeah, yeah, maybe like a 230 on
- 5:58the bike at the end of that. And then like for sure, for sure
- 6:022526 cows a minute on the row. You know, I'm thinking like a
- 6:071600 pace on the row. And then maybe the ski is like a
- 6:091500 if you're killing it. Well, give it a crack. 16.
- 6:13We get 10 minutes. Listen, we can call it.
- 6:16We can call it the 7:50 challenge, 'cause even if even
- 6:20if you guys can't, I'm gonna go ahead and say you can't do it.
- 6:23I think 500 is very doable. I'm gonna say 750 is like,
- 6:26really reaching for the stars. And then.
- 6:28But even if y'all can't, there's some freak out there that can,
- 6:32yeah. That's a good workout. 2 minutes
- 6:34also isn't like a ton of recoverability.
- 6:36Like you're getting a sip of water, you're sitting for a
- 6:38second, you're going. That's why I was very
- 6:41conservative on the ski row. My whole thing was I wanted to
- 6:43just do really good on the bike. And then we're just, you know,
- 6:46cruise at 1000. What's?
- 6:48Crazy is that workouts the first event of the mode Classic.
- 6:52Yeah, dude, you just programmed our workout.
- 6:55I'm actually, I'm actually collabing with Hitler and Jr. on
- 6:59these workouts because I, you know, I'm, I'm an athlete, I'm
- 7:02biased. I have things I want to see and
- 7:03things I don't want to see. And I need you to take myself
- 7:07out of the equation to like, make this thing good.
- 7:09And, you know, I had my ideas. I sent them over the ideas.
- 7:12I told them to tell me how much they sucked and what we should
- 7:14change. And I still haven't talked with
- 7:16Jr., but Hitler sent me paragraphs of edits and I was
- 7:19like, dude, this is this is what we need.
- 7:22So so for those who aren't aware, because you only have 480
- 7:26followers out there on on Instagram.
- 7:28On his main profile. Follow it.
- 7:32Yes, we need to pump that up. So mode at mode classic 2026, if
- 7:37you were watching go follow that it is an inaugural CrossFit
- 7:42competition, you need to capitalize that FI.
- 7:45Do CrossFit. Yes I agree with that.
- 7:48I I missed that mark. Please do that.
- 7:51Let me tell the people what we're doing.
- 7:52Here. Yeah.
- 7:53What are you doing here? So basically I've been kind of
- 7:57involved as a volunteer, an athlete, A programmer, a judge.
- 8:02I've been behind the scenes in every way of a competition.
- 8:05I've been competing at them and I've kind of seen everything
- 8:08that I've liked and disliked. And I also realized over the
- 8:12last few years, like how hard it really is to make it like make
- 8:17it meaning make a check from CrossFit, be able to monetize
- 8:20your platforms. I believe it's, it's so
- 8:23difficult even as a games athlete nowadays.
- 8:25Like you could see guys, the games, the bottom tennis year
- 8:28who didn't even make a check. And maybe those guys don't have
- 8:30sponsors. So my goal is to 1 be able to
- 8:34pay out the athletes well, to give them a phenomenal
- 8:37experience to kick off the year of 2026.
- 8:40Three, give those people between that like 100 to 3003 thousand
- 8:45spot on the board. Yeah, I couldn't didn't
- 8:48pronounce that one. Give him a spot.
- 8:51Yeah, I like that. Keep it going, but can just make
- 8:56fun of my my slurs. So my goal was to give these
- 9:00guys an opportunity to make some cash.
- 9:03And honestly, these guys aren't ever able to make the cash at a
- 9:07wadapalooza or, you know, these other big competitions because
- 9:11the guys in the top 100 are already taking all that top end
- 9:14money. So yeah, that was the main
- 9:17motivation. I've been a part of a lot of
- 9:19things that I did not like. And the last competition that I
- 9:23helped program, I saw a lot of messy things that I would have
- 9:26cleaned up. And now I'm like, I can do this
- 9:29better. I want to give these guys a show
- 9:31and give back to the community that's giving me so much.
- 9:34So this is a CrossFit competition meant to give people
- 9:38an opportunity that, you know, want to come throw down, make
- 9:41some good money. It's kind of that crash Crucible
- 9:43feeling where it's inside of a box.
- 9:45Same similar style of programming.
- 9:48I'm not going to say I'm I'm the mastermind of Jr., but like we
- 9:51want it to feel the same way. And yeah, it's it's there's no
- 9:55Wapalooza now in January. So this is kind of the thing I'm
- 9:58hoping, like, oh, you know, I was going to do Wasa and Jan,
- 10:01but now there's the mode Classic.
- 10:02Like I'm going to go try and qualify for that.
- 10:05And I'll tell you about this mode campus that we're doing it
- 10:06in. It's been the gym I've been
- 10:08training in for the last two years.
- 10:10It's absolutely just like a gorgeous gym.
- 10:13If you've seen any of my videos, it's like top notch equipment, a
- 10:16really good space. They have so much going on in
- 10:19there. Like the gym's just a small
- 10:21piece of the puzzle and I just realized I'm like, why haven't
- 10:24we done anything in here yet? Like there's, there's so much
- 10:27space. It's like 300,000 square feet
- 10:29between the business center, the school, the gym, the gym itself
- 10:33has two sides. So the side you see me working
- 10:35out in is, you know, that's the CrossFit launch mode CrossFit
- 10:40side. And then there's a kids gym
- 10:41where we're going to have a second floor, the kids PE room
- 10:44where the kids do their school and we're going to turn that
- 10:47into a second floor. So we'll have two floors going
- 10:49at once and that's about, you know, there's like 12,000 square
- 10:52feet of room between those two rooms.
- 10:55Toast a big competition and knock it out of the park.
- 10:58Time out. School.
- 11:00School. Yeah, it's upstairs.
- 11:02Is it like a? An independent thing or is it
- 11:05like I'm confused? So it's like K through 12.
- 11:08It's a, it's an Academy. It's called the Liberty Launch
- 11:11Academy. And you know, it's, it's not
- 11:14actually as expensive as you think to get a kid in there for
- 11:18how high level of an education they give.
- 11:21You know, these kids, they, they get top notch PE, they get top
- 11:24notch teaching of real world stuff that they need to grow,
- 11:28not just stuff they're not going to remember.
- 11:30Like there's so many things I feel like I learned in
- 11:33elementary entry, middle and high school that I was like,
- 11:35man, like, why am I learning this?
- 11:37I don't need this to be a successful human being.
- 11:40So I think they're trying to bridge that gap and, you know,
- 11:43teach kids about insurance, finance, why health matters, you
- 11:47know, how to be healthy. You know, more than just math,
- 11:50history, science, social studies.
- 11:52Like it goes beyond that so. It's like an Acton Academy
- 11:55thing. It's the guy, Tim.
- 11:57Tim, what's his name? The operator, he does one of
- 12:00those so yeah, this that's cool that is cool facilities dope
- 12:04dude. It is dope dude.
- 12:05They will ask you who's who's who's doing the.
- 12:09Broadcast, The broadcast is not yet decided.
- 12:12I honestly, I'm trying to decide because I want the budget to go
- 12:15toward the athletes because we obviously have the overheads
- 12:18taken care of. We have the facility.
- 12:20So me and the owner are really tight.
- 12:22Like he obviously wants to see the gym succeed and see people
- 12:25in the gym. So, you know, that's, I feel
- 12:27like that's the hardest part about running a competition is
- 12:30figuring out like the overhead of the facility.
- 12:32How much it's gonna cost? Yeah.
- 12:33Yeah. And like the equipment, how much
- 12:35that's gonna cost. And so I got Lycan doing all the
- 12:38equipment. They're they're my equipment
- 12:40sponsors. They're like, oh, it's
- 12:41supporting James. Like, let's do it.
- 12:43So you know, the two biggest things like the paying for the
- 12:45equipment and paying for the facility, those things are done
- 12:48so more money can go toward the athletes.
- 12:51And right now we have 3 to 1000 promise for the podium for
- 12:55elites. And I'm like, I think we can
- 12:56raise that if we get good ticket sales and get enough people
- 12:59signed up for this. So my whole goal, I don't want
- 13:02to pocket a dime. I just want to give it back to
- 13:04the athletes. I'd go with Hamilton Rd.
- 13:07That would be the best 2. 150K for.
- 13:10Are. They the ones that did tier.
- 13:13Yeah, yeah. And did the Mayhem classic and.
- 13:16They're the, they're the O GS. They're the, they're the like
- 13:19the stand of the art, if that's what you're going to.
- 13:21Do with I deal with that just? 250 grand.
- 13:24Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude. It's what Mayhem spent on the
- 13:27Mayhem Classic was was like. Mostly that.
- 13:30In insane, but I'll I'll go ahead and give you my price.
- 13:34So if I, I, I need my flight and like a place to stay and then
- 13:42$100 and then and then $100. That's what I that's what that's
- 13:46what I need and I will announce the fire out of your
- 13:48competition. So, so this is this poses a good
- 13:51question. Do you think for a first year
- 13:54for this kind of level of field, you know, is that something you
- 13:57think you need a live stream for?
- 13:59It depends how much you want it to grow.
- 14:01Yeah, because my my goal, like obviously I want the 80
- 14:04athletes. We have 20 elites, 20 elite
- 14:06males, 20 elite females and then we have the 20 RX male female
- 14:10too. So it's 80 athletes, right.
- 14:12I don't think it's feasible for, you know, if if we're doing a
- 14:18live stream to have like because the RX and elite might be going
- 14:21at the same time. So I think it's like maybe live
- 14:24stream. Yep, Yep.
- 14:26So I think it's like more feasible just to have the elite
- 14:28broadcasted. If you're going to do it, no you
- 14:31can't like and and people won't. No offense to the RX athletes.
- 14:35People won't watch it. Nobody cares except their
- 14:37family. No offense to them.
- 14:38Y'all are awesome. I'm I'm one of you guys.
- 14:40Nobody's watching you. Can do to highlight.
- 14:42Stuff of them after, you can do highlight stuff with them after,
- 14:46but it's yeah, it's just not going to pan out as far as views
- 14:49go. So you are going for like the
- 14:51bubble, maybe a little bit of bubble action?
- 14:54West Coast crash. Yeah, West Coast crash, yeah,
- 14:56honestly, my my goal with it is anyone that's been to the cross
- 15:00the games as an individual over the last five years can't come
- 15:02could be this like that's that's I'm going to veto that.
- 15:05So right now our best athlete signed up for females is Trista
- 15:09Smith and then Mason Griffith is the best.
- 15:12Oh, weird. Wow, that's shocking.
- 15:16I know. Have you reached?
- 15:18Have you reached out to people? Yes, I've been DM ING people
- 15:22actively and I realized that when you're a new account that
- 15:26you can't really you can't really get to they don't see it
- 15:29message requests. So I'm just like, I just got to
- 15:30use my main account outreach and tag the mode classic Instagram.
- 15:34But yeah, honestly, I'm really pleased with the sign up so far.
- 15:38In my opinion, I'm actually surprised that the RX filled up
- 15:42and the Elite hasn't because the RX doesn't have a prize purse
- 15:47that's good. We're still paying like 5, four,
- 15:49$300.00 for the RX podium. But I'm like people are scared
- 15:54of the Elite name and and the the kind of premise of being an
- 15:58elite athlete. So that one actually hasn't had
- 16:00the sign ups, which is the Division I really want to fill
- 16:03up. So I'm pushing this thing hard.
- 16:05Elites, we're going to take care of you guys.
- 16:06It's going to be a sick competition.
- 16:09I wish I could tell you about Mike.
- 16:12You're next. You're Mike, you're next, bro.
- 16:14Hey. Back-to-back to Mike, back to
- 16:16Yeah. I have a list of people.
- 16:18I still have like only gotten halfway down the list because it
- 16:21lets me send 10 messages a day through the mode Instagram and
- 16:24then it says you're cut off and I'm like, this is ridiculous.
- 16:28So I I have sent probably 50 out of 120 messages.
- 16:33I have a list of athletes. You're on it, Mike.
- 16:35You're down there somewhere too, Tristan.
- 16:36Well, just go sign up. Just go sign up for the
- 16:38qualifier. You don't even have to get a
- 16:40message from me. Hey.
- 16:42That's the thing, man, I need you.
- 16:45I need you to quiet it down a little, bro.
- 16:47Competition. Corner Mode Classic.
- 16:49Qualifier you steer over there. Look at it.
- 16:53Is she on the ground? Yeah.
- 16:55So yeah, the qualifiers are going to be.
- 16:57Oh, I see. Like she's just made her way
- 17:01over that box. Is that your TV box from No,
- 17:04it's not my. TV box?
- 17:06No, no, that's up and running. Yes, yeah.
- 17:11I think that the qualifier wanted to make it super low key.
- 17:14So it's one of those things where you could put it around
- 17:16your training, like it's not going to be super taxing like a
- 17:20Wazza or a Rogue qualifier. Think of it as like you have,
- 17:25it's going to be 3 workouts. There will be, it will be very
- 17:28well-rounded and you can put it at the end of your training day
- 17:31if you want. So it's not like going to
- 17:32disrupt the elite athletes in their training regiment.
- 17:35Because I think the biggest, the most annoying thing is an elite
- 17:37athlete is like, oh, Dang it, I have to like take a deload leak
- 17:40going to this qualifier and make sure I feel really good.
- 17:42Like like so I just wanted them to be able to work through it,
- 17:44get to the main event, but also get the right people there at
- 17:47the same time. Yeah, it's on Competition Corner
- 17:50about classic qualifiers. Search that $5 November 13th,
- 17:55the 17th. So you'll be you'll be getting
- 17:58back from Scotland at that point.
- 17:59Yeah, yeah, I'll be back from Scotland.
- 18:01I'll, I'm going on a little Disney trip with my wife and her
- 18:04family. She's a, she's a big Disney
- 18:06fanatic, her and her family. So I'm trying to survive the
- 18:09three days from open to close with them.
- 18:11So wish me luck. Is that a Disneyland or a Disney
- 18:14World? I think we're doing Disneyland.
- 18:17So lame. I think World's cooler too.
- 18:20They all think land is cooler. That's where they grew up.
- 18:22But I'm like World has so much more to offer.
- 18:25Yeah, it's original. I think Islands of Adventure is
- 18:28the way to go. Harry Potter world and you got
- 18:31all the different. My dad actually Allstate, he
- 18:34works for Allstate, Pat Sprague, Allstate, his Instagram and he
- 18:39his business rented out islands of adventure for like 6 hours
- 18:42one night so we could just get on any ride with no wait and it
- 18:45was like the highlight of my childhood.
- 18:47It was pretty epic. So I there is no, correct me if
- 18:52I'm wrong, but there's no like crash level competition on the
- 18:56West Coast. There's nothing like that.
- 18:58Yeah. The West Coast is desolate with
- 19:00competitions like what do we, what do we have here?
- 19:02Like, think about it. We have the Mountain West.
- 19:04Which is. So Cal and then yeah, Waza
- 19:10SoCal, but that's like, you know, that's that's also in
- 19:13California. I'm talking Pacific Northwest.
- 19:15You have that Mountain West and now you have this.
- 19:17And I I'm not sure what the Mountain West prize purse is.
- 19:21It should be something good. And Adam and Justin and Jesse
- 19:23are programming that. So I know it's going to be a
- 19:25great show. Dakota Iron Games, it's around
- 19:28there, isn't it in Utah. Iron Games Utah, I did that one
- 19:31with Dallon and another buddy of ours named Ethan.
- 19:35Gosh Dang it, it's horrible. I did that one in 2020 and we
- 19:41actually won. Yeah.
- 19:44It's, it's, it's really cool. I think like you picked, I was
- 19:49making a calendar for the upcoming year of competitions
- 19:52and like what we're going to do. And I was like, I was texting
- 19:54them. I was like, shit, guys, like we
- 19:56have 13 weeks of desolation, just nothing.
- 20:00And then this popped up and I was like, oh, there's something
- 20:02we can go do a. 100% he's so sweet.
- 20:06Yeah, I would, I would love to get you guys involved, even if
- 20:08even if it's not a live stream. But that does sound very
- 20:11enticing to me to have you guys. Be heard of P score.
- 20:17I have heard of peace score. Not a fan.
- 20:20Now, Tyler, Tyler, if you want to come do peace scoring at the
- 20:23event, let's talk because I honestly like I'm going to be
- 20:27there helping out the judges, being head judge on the floor,
- 20:31you know, just helping wherever I can.
- 20:33So I'm going to assign people to each little thing.
- 20:36So if you want to be, if you want to be the scoring man.
- 20:39I'd love to do scoring P Score or no score, I would.
- 20:41Whatever you want to do, I'll I'll do it.
- 20:44I think Kate likes the P score. Let's do a combo of P&Z and see
- 20:47what we get. Combo score nice.
- 20:50Yeah, posi, posi. Score.
- 20:54Yeah, be careful how we say that.
- 20:57Yeah, I don't know. I.
- 20:58Haven't, I haven't asked you about that since you what was
- 21:01you lost to Austin, right? Colton lost to Austin.
- 21:07Colton lost to Austin. I was fourth there at Crash.
- 21:09Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I would have been third if
- 21:10it wasn't Peace Corps. Yeah, I think.
- 21:12He wasn't. He wasn't nobody back then.
- 21:14He got a lot better. You got a lot better.
- 21:19I'm saying you got a lot better. Honestly, yeah, it was Crash was
- 21:23such a great like entry level like to get to the games, like
- 21:27knowing what it took. Cuz there's a lot of guys that
- 21:30are like on the bubble to get to the Games or, you know, kind of
- 21:33guys that haven't yet made it at the games at that point.
- 21:36So I was like, Dang, this is like as high as it gets without
- 21:39being at the games. So yeah, if you're like an elite
- 21:43athlete trying to make it like go do the crash.
- 21:46Are all the members and stuff bought in like they're like
- 21:49we're doing we're helping mode yeah, because that's the thing
- 21:54that like sets it. It creates this culture at Crash
- 21:57that it's just like everybody's there for the right reasons.
- 22:00Yep. And it it creates like this, I
- 22:04don't know, AA baseball field where it's just like everybody's
- 22:07stoked and they're like, this is it so?
- 22:10Or CrossFit. Buy CrossFit.
- 22:12Yeah, yeah, honestly. So our memberships aren't crazy
- 22:16big yet because people don't know about the facility.
- 22:18Like like it's like kind of like unknown still.
- 22:21So we're pushing this thing hard and it's like literally one of
- 22:24the nicest gyms I've ever been inside of.
- 22:27So I will like, I'd be shocked if this thing doesn't have more
- 22:30members by end of the year beginning next year.
- 22:33Like we're kind of doing a new push with what we want to do
- 22:35with it. You know, they're they're
- 22:37turning into more of like a all well-rounded gym.
- 22:40Like there's CrossFit, you can do your bodybuilding, you can,
- 22:43you know, go in the other gym and do your high rocks.
- 22:45They have the turf. Well, that's why.
- 22:49You're not getting members. I know, dude.
- 22:51Well, dude, it's, it's funny, they have a lot of these gyms
- 22:55now are High Rocks affiliated, like my dad's gym called
- 22:59Lakeside CrossFit. And they're getting a ton of
- 23:01people that find it just because they look it up on a High Rock
- 23:04site. Yeah.
- 23:06It's nutty. It's smart, dude.
- 23:09We, we've been thinking a lot about schooling.
- 23:11My son's like four months old, so we got a while to go, but
- 23:14it's something you start thinking about.
- 23:16And if I was like, Oh yeah, there's a school inside a, a gym
- 23:20essentially, I'd be like, he's going there.
- 23:22I mean, the other options I have here in Pennsylvania is send him
- 23:24to Amish school, so. I'm I'm homeschooling so we got
- 23:29a gym inside of here, no. Matter what, You're set.
- 23:32You're set. Yeah, more and more people are
- 23:34homeschooling nowadays. Like I like the concept of it
- 23:37but Dang does it take a lot of time on the parents.
- 23:40Leslie works part time now. We got it.
- 23:43You got it covered. You'll just take her on the
- 23:45podcast, teach her Abcs on Yeah. Listen, I'll do PE in history,
- 23:49and Leslie can do all the rest of all the rest of it.
- 23:53Is history gonna be cross the game's history?
- 23:55Is that what's really. Oh, dude, I'm I'm a savant with
- 23:58any type of history like we can, we can go sports.
- 24:01American, European, doesn't matter.
- 24:03OK, I I it's freaking catalog African capitals.
- 24:07I got it doesn't matter geography.
- 24:09I have so much. I have so much useless
- 24:12information in my head, James that will never pay off ever.
- 24:15But I I can tell other people it.
- 24:17How did you get that? Are you just like?
- 24:18Do you remember facts? When Tylenol.
- 24:20My. Mom took my, mom took Tylenol
- 24:22and I went on. Oh my God.
- 24:26That's because that's. I won't make it.
- 24:29I won't make it to. Oh, my gosh.
- 24:31Wait, John, are you are you on the spectrum?
- 24:34Yes. I got it.
- 24:35There's a hint of it. That's fair.
- 24:37Dude. I, I, I have memory like nobody
- 24:41else. Nobody else that I that I know
- 24:43of. It just catalogs in my brain.
- 24:45If I see it, I will never forget it.
- 24:46Ever. Except for when he makes the
- 24:48wrong call, he somehow forgets. No, that's just, that's just me
- 24:52being wrong. But like for instance, like if
- 24:56we do movies or something like that, I, I can remember every
- 25:00single line and every single movie I've ever seen.
- 25:02That's crazy. So just like I'm opposite.
- 25:05Dude I'm opposite I don't remember anything I read.
- 25:08I watch like I'm like, like the only thing I remember are my
- 25:11workout scores and like workouts I did.
- 25:13Like I can tell you every single workout I did at every
- 25:15competition of any year. Like that's my, that's my autism
- 25:19there. You go real quick keeping it
- 25:21real. 5 bucks. John.
- 25:23What is the capital of Ethiopia? It's like Adiz Ababa.
- 25:27It's got two different names to it.
- 25:30I don't know if it's Adiz or Ababa or if it's Adiz Ababa, but
- 25:34it's it's a. That's a depressing of Ethiopia.
- 25:43Dang, wow. Look at that.
- 25:47John, that's, that's impressive, dude.
- 25:49My dude, so there was this game. They don't make games like this
- 25:53anymore, unfortunately. But like you had to put the
- 25:56states where they were in the map and if you didn't do it in a
- 25:59certain amount of time, it said you ride the short bus.
- 26:02You can't do this in this amount of time.
- 26:04And my dad beat me at this game and it drove me insane.
- 26:09And I played this game for like 13 straight hours until it was
- 26:14just, I didn't even have to see the map.
- 26:16And I just you know what I mean. And then and then it just then
- 26:19it never left me and I and then I ended up doing it for every
- 26:22country in the world. And then then it just, you know,
- 26:24all like in 4th grade, 5th grade, you know when you get
- 26:27obsessed about that stuff and then it just never.
- 26:29It's going to happen one day where it comes in like real
- 26:32handy and you're going to be like, I'm glad I did that.
- 26:35I don't think so, but thank you. I I.
- 26:37Hope it does for your for your own sake.
- 26:40She's upset about. This Tylenol and Advil are not
- 26:45the same thing, right? No.
- 26:49I don't know something acetaminophen.
- 26:51Yeah, yeah, I should know this. My wife's a pharmacist.
- 26:53She's told me this a million times.
- 26:55Wow. She knows that you don't need
- 26:56to. My mom or my wife's a
- 26:58pharmacist. Dude, that's crazy.
- 26:59You want to know what's even crazier?
- 27:01Cole Stager and his wife Cole, professional crossword athlete.
- 27:04And then Genesee was pharmacist so they he married us Cole.
- 27:08And like they literally do the same thing as us and then their
- 27:11anniversary was on the same day as our anniversary.
- 27:14So. That's wow.
- 27:15Jr's wife is a pharmacist. Yeah, Jr's wife's a pharmacist.
- 27:19A lot of pharmacist's wives to CrossFit people.
- 27:21It funds the dream, dude. Yeah, come.
- 27:26On You're so right, Yeah. When you don't win the games,
- 27:30you know, you have to start thinking like, Oh, my wife's
- 27:32job's really nice. Well, that pharmacist like don't
- 27:36they work like crazy like four days a week or something or?
- 27:40Crazy. I mean, you can't it depends.
- 27:43It's not like I don't think it's like nursing where it's like 12
- 27:46hour shifts because she she'll go, you know, longest 8 hours, 8
- 27:491/2 hours. She actually went to part time
- 27:52recently. So we could, you know, have more
- 27:54time together. She could come to the
- 27:55competitions with me because like, you know, I don't know how
- 27:58long I'm going to get to do this like hopefully 10 years,
- 28:01hopefully 11:50 more years. But you know, her career like we
- 28:05can, we can jump back into that whenever as long as she keeps up
- 28:08with her licensing and stuff. So just it's nice to have her be
- 28:12able to do both rather than just like full time pharmacy.
- 28:14Sorry, I can't come to your competitions.
- 28:16Like I want her there. She's like, she makes me happy
- 28:19and helps me do better and supports me so well.
- 28:22So it's like a secret weapon? Just going to get that Adidas
- 28:25full on sponsorship you. Win you, win the games again,
- 28:29she'll go PRN and we'll just take a take a step down every
- 28:32time. Right, right.
- 28:34Come on. Probably.
- 28:34Should never let go of PRN just in case.
- 28:36What do you guys, what do you guys think?
- 28:37Where do you think the game's going in Cali?
- 28:40Like where do you? Carson.
- 28:42I I already I already shared it. And thinks it's going to be a
- 28:46WNBA stadium. That's right.
- 28:49And I think it's in Carson. Got you.
- 28:52When do you think we'll find out?
- 28:55Soon I was really. September 7th.
- 28:58Yeah, October 7th. Is that a random date kind of
- 29:01like you were saying the Raptor yesterday?
- 29:02James, you have no idea. You it's not.
- 29:06Random. It's not random.
- 29:09You guys know something, huh? No, we know nothing, John.
- 29:12I, I, I know nothing that's fair.
- 29:15Just October 7th. Be prepared.
- 29:17Speaking of the games, how you feeling after this year?
- 29:20How did you feel about the whole games and as a whole?
- 29:23Yeah, this, this year was incredible.
- 29:25I mean, like, honestly, I I didn't win.
- 29:28So that kind of left the sour taste in my mouth.
- 29:30But like the experience as a whole, you know, even with being
- 29:34in Albany, I was like, uh oh, it's, it's in Albany.
- 29:38But did you know? Albany was bad before you.
- 29:41Went I, I did because I went there for the open announcement
- 29:43and I was like, oh gosh, this place has not a lot to offer.
- 29:47But they, they somehow like, like that didn't matter.
- 29:50Like the show was incredible and there was, there's so much to to
- 29:53see and do at the venue. And, you know, I just, I really
- 29:58appreciated how the show ran, how they treated us.
- 30:02Felt like a really good redeeming year and a year that
- 30:05can be, you know, remembered as like a growth year, like a
- 30:09comeback year. So, but yeah, beside, besides
- 30:13that, like the, I thought the events were sick.
- 30:15They were, they were freaking hard.
- 30:18You know, I'm curious when they'll go back to like more
- 30:21than 10 events for the games, because that's what we had in in
- 30:242024 too, and 2025. And I always remember like, oh,
- 30:28the games like 12 to 14 events. So I'm curious like will we go
- 30:31back to that or will we keep it at the 10?
- 30:34I'm also curious like if we do so many events that all have 10
- 30:38plus, like if we go do the games and then the Rogue and then the
- 30:41WFP finale, like is that too much?
- 30:44Like there's so many questions. I don't feel bad for y'all.
- 30:46Y'all ask for it. Dude, I mean I I'm I'm fine I
- 30:50think. He's adjusted well.
- 30:54He's adjusted his training. Yeah, I'm good.
- 30:56I think honestly, the competitions are less hard on me
- 30:59than the training. The competitions are fun.
- 31:01What's hard on me is like third week on of a hard block when I'm
- 31:04in the gym for six hours and I'm training with no one and you
- 31:08know, I'm just like, I have nothing left like that.
- 31:11That's the hard part of this sport.
- 31:13It's not getting to go shine on the floor.
- 31:16Sure, there's like sucky moments and you misperform, but like, I
- 31:19think the hard part is when you're in the middle of a hard
- 31:21training block and it's just you versus you, like you're going to
- 31:25get it done, are you going to push that extra mile or are you
- 31:26going to get lazy? So for for athletes who are
- 31:29coming up like we're talking semifinals, trying to push to
- 31:32the games, but maybe like 14th, 15th on the leaderboard like and
- 31:36they're doing the WFP. Do you think that that is
- 31:39untenable to be able to train, do the WFP, do the game season
- 31:44and also get better at the sport?
- 31:47Do you think that they can do that?
- 31:49Or not. And I think, I think that I
- 31:51think that it's tough if you're trying to make it because
- 31:53training matters more for those that are at a lower level
- 31:56because they have gaps they need to bridge more.
- 31:58So like for me, Jason and Alan, we just have small things here
- 32:02and there that like we need to fill in and we just need to
- 32:03maintain a base. Now, like we were talking about
- 32:05this on The Boys interrupted last week that like, you know,
- 32:08what's the minimum amount I could train to make the games?
- 32:12What's the minimum amount of like I could train to like top
- 32:15ten at the games? And I think now for like, you
- 32:18know, let's just say the top 10, I think we all have this base
- 32:22built up where it's like it's not going to go away as long as
- 32:24we train. I'll take two hours a day and
- 32:27sleep good and eat good. So like pushing forward now is a
- 32:31lot harder to make those gains. For me, it's like I need my
- 32:35squat to get better and my pressing to get better.
- 32:37For down. It's like still the same story.
- 32:39He needs his running and long aerobic sustained fitness.
- 32:42For Jason, it's like, I don't know, what is Jason bad at?
- 32:46Rollovers. Roll.
- 32:48Roll over, pull over. That's it.
- 32:50Yeah. Like I think it's.
- 32:51I think it's his pulling, his pulling capacity.
- 32:54I I think. But like, there's little things
- 32:56like little gaps that like, you know, if they get exposed, our
- 32:59fitness is going to cover for it.
- 33:00We're going to make it there anyway.
- 33:02So yeah, I think for someone that is on the bubble of making
- 33:06the games, they're better off putting all their energy toward
- 33:09going into the games because I think honestly, that's still
- 33:13where the sponsorship ecosystem is too.
- 33:15Like if you want to make, if you want to make money with
- 33:17sponsors, which is one of our main forms of income and ways to
- 33:21make it. Like that's still where seems
- 33:24most of the sponsors care. You put your time and allocate
- 33:26your time. Now that could that could change
- 33:28with the next year, I don't know.
- 33:30It's just about eyeballs, so the most eyes are on the games.
- 33:33Yep, yeah, they are on the games and the WFP, like the going as a
- 33:38challenger and trying to make it like if you if you haven't made
- 33:42a single dollar with the sport, like that is attractive.
- 33:45Being able to like get paid to, you know, over a season and get
- 33:49these promises of competing and, you know, getting your your
- 33:52trips paid for and your hotels paid for.
- 33:54Like that's, that's really cool. Like I think only the Rogue does
- 33:57that and you know, so that that's that's something cool if
- 34:01you want to compete more. But if you're like, I want to be
- 34:04the best Games athlete, like, you know, it's probably your
- 34:07best bet to train hard and skip the other ones and just go for
- 34:11the games. Now I've I've let me pick your
- 34:14brain, OK? Yeah, let's do it.
- 34:16You know Tor stop 1/20/26 was suggested to be during the same
- 34:21time as quarterfinals, right? Yes, it suggested.
- 34:25But like we don't know they're changing that.
- 34:27They're, they're changing it because they know that like,
- 34:31like they don't want to interfere with CrossFit, it
- 34:33seems. I really don't think Will wants
- 34:35to. I don't, I don't think I don't,
- 34:36I, well, I disagree with that. But you know, you know him
- 34:39better than you know him better than I do.
- 34:40So I'll take your word for it. But I do disagree.
- 34:42I don't know him at all though. Never spoken a word to him.
- 34:44So but I think it's smart for them to move it.
- 34:48I think at some point though, whether that's it's, you know, 2
- 34:54years from now or whatever, they're not going to move it.
- 34:56And then this is where like they draw their line in the sand.
- 35:00And do you think, do you think the WFP almost hurts those guys
- 35:07trying to break in? Like you just said, you can't do
- 35:10it all and train and still improve, right?
- 35:12And I think we all. Agree.
- 35:12Yeah, you can't prove it as quick of a rate like I think you
- 35:14can still improve and do every competition.
- 35:16You're not going to all of a sudden beat you though.
- 35:19Yeah, I don't I I mean the answer.
- 35:21Is no, James, No, they're not. No, the times I got my best and
- 35:25saw the best results were when I stayed at home.
- 35:28I slept and ate this same way for months on end.
- 35:31And I had a religious training routine.
- 35:33Like, yeah, traveling and going and competing knocks you out of
- 35:36that routine. So like, yeah, the answer is
- 35:38don't do that if you want to be the best.
- 35:40But once you've made it, I believe it's like, oh man, like
- 35:44I just have to maintain this training base and, you know,
- 35:46keep filling in these holes a little slower maybe.
- 35:48But like, I'm really not worried about like my, my ability to do
- 35:54well at machines and my ability to do muscle ups and snatch.
- 35:58Like, I'm not worried about that going away anymore because it's
- 36:00already in a pretty good spot so.
- 36:02I know you're not. I think it incentivizes the
- 36:05people that are a step below you to not improve.
- 36:09It incentivizes them with money. Yeah, I mean the money like.
- 36:13It basically just keeps you on top.
- 36:15Go look at it. I'm a top earner for the season
- 36:18and I've had two events that I've like had to give my
- 36:21everything to right. Like I'm working my butt off at
- 36:23both those tours and I've made 50 grand from the year at WFP.
- 36:27Like that's the same as getting 3rd at the games.
- 36:30Like it's and I'm the top earner right now.
- 36:32So, you know, it's not like I don't think people are looking
- 36:36at the money is like, oh, that's life changing.
- 36:38They're looking at it's like, oh, it's, it's there's some
- 36:40guarantees in there. And that's, that's like taking
- 36:44people's headspace like, oh, it's guaranteed to me.
- 36:47I'm like, I never looked at that guarantee in the contract.
- 36:49And I was like, you know that that doesn't mean anything.
- 36:52Cuz I know I'm gonna exceed that.
- 36:53I know I'm gonna, I know I'm gonna go do better at these
- 36:54competitions. But the people that maybe don't
- 36:56believe in themselves as much, you're right.
- 36:58Like they're gonna, maybe that incentivizes them to just step
- 37:00out there and get on the floor cuz they're gonna get something.
- 37:03But to me I'm like, I don't, I don't care what that number says
- 37:06cuz I'm gonna go beat that anyway.
- 37:09Yeah. So the title of fittest on Earth
- 37:11is more important to you. Yes, yes, it's still very and
- 37:15I'm the leader this coming from like I'm winning the league
- 37:17right now and and like I think that's awesome.
- 37:20I want to go win. I want to win every time I step
- 37:22out on the floor, no matter who's there or what, what's at
- 37:25stake. Like I want to win, but winning
- 37:27the crossing games is still like, you know, that's why I
- 37:31trained my butt off. To, to follow up that if they
- 37:35went exclusive and they're not going to, but if they went
- 37:38exclusive, how many of the top ten men and women would go to
- 37:44the CrossFit Games and how many would go to WFP?
- 37:47And let's say, let's say they offer 100,000, let's say they
- 37:50kick it up and it's 100,000 guaranteed.
- 37:52To go to four events over the year.
- 37:54Sure. Yeah, we have to do it.
- 37:57Well, I'm just In your opinion, 20 people, top ten guys, top ten
- 38:00girls, How many go to the CrossFit Games to fight for the
- 38:04title? The fittest man and woman on
- 38:05earth or guaranteed money. Yeah, if you're talking, if
- 38:08you're talking 100 grand, guaranteed.
- 38:10Which I don't, I don't have. I don't lose sleep at all.
- 38:13Well, I mean, you all do what you want.
- 38:14Don't lose sleep, whatever y'all.
- 38:15But I believe you, Gallon Jason, like I don't y'all.
- 38:20Y'all are fine. I don't worry about y'all.
- 38:22Yeah, but just how many of the top ten, I would say, I would
- 38:25say 70% would stay at the games and then 30%.
- 38:29So like 7-7 guys, 7 girls would stay with the games because
- 38:32they, I think there's actually 7 people who believe they're going
- 38:35to win the crossword games. Like I, I like that's where I'm
- 38:38getting that number from. That's what it looked.
- 38:40Like this year I gotcha and then, OK, so who are those 3?
- 38:44In the top ten, I mean. Go ahead.
- 38:48No, if you want, let him go, Tyler.
- 38:51I, you know, I honestly. I'll help you out.
- 38:53I'll help you out. First one's Jeff next.
- 38:57Go ahead, James. Wait, you think you think Jeff
- 38:59would go to WP? 100% Really.
- 39:03I don't think so, John. I don't know.
- 39:04I don't know Jeff well enough to say that.
- 39:06Like I think that he's. Still, I don't know Jeff at all.
- 39:08Never spoken word, but do not think Jeff.
- 39:11Thinks he can win. I think Jeff thinks he can win.
- 39:13I got some bad vibes from this one man.
- 39:16From the games, yeah, yeah, I mean that's one year too, like
- 39:20I, I mean. And then the year he won, it was
- 39:22because Roman broke his foot. I mean, how many excuses?
- 39:25You know what I mean? Like I just.
- 39:26Well, I only won the games because Jeff wasn't there,
- 39:28remember? And I don't believe in that.
- 39:32I don't believe in Jeff. I'll put it on that.
- 39:34Yes, that's. I'm I'm not gonna name names
- 39:38with the three, I think. Good idea like.
- 39:41I'm I'm gonna, I'm gonna say that there is definitely a
- 39:44likelihood that a few would take that bait because it's 100
- 39:48grand. Like, yeah, it's 100,000.
- 39:51Yeah. Like not not when you buy a home
- 39:53and you can pay all your bills and you can feed your pup and
- 39:56you know, I just got to show up like.
- 39:58Oh, I get it. Yeah, but I also think if they
- 40:01make the minimum that high, like the guaranteed minimum, then
- 40:04you're just incentivizing people to show up and not compete hard.
- 40:06Like the minimums aren't high enough, from my understanding.
- 40:10Like where you're like, aw Dang, like I just got to show up.
- 40:13Like I think everyone still wants to fight for the best.
- 40:16Check that. It's not really 100 grand
- 40:19though. It's 6666666.
- 40:22Are you after taxes? It depends on where you live 30.
- 40:263% plus, yeah, whatever your state is.
- 40:29Europe doesn't do taxes. Or you could just evade all
- 40:31taxes and like not pay. Them that that's true, I would
- 40:34prefer to be paid in doge. I so I Yeah.
- 40:37And I I'm fine with you dodging the question with the men.
- 40:40Those are your enemies. Slash friends.
- 40:42You know what I mean? I'm fine with that.
- 40:43Let's focus on the women. Who do you think out of the
- 40:45women? Would you go?
- 40:48People that don't believe in themselves.
- 40:51OK, that's fair. Who?
- 40:52Who? I think there's less women that
- 40:53believe they can win the games than.
- 40:55Because there's less women that can.
- 40:57Yeah, yeah. I think there's a list of like,
- 41:00if Tia's not there, there's like a list of three people who I
- 41:02think you can win, and then the guys, I think there's seven.
- 41:04So I think that I think that more girls are taking that bait.
- 41:09That's a great question. Tyler's convinced Velner's
- 41:13coming back and it's hard. It's hard not to root for right?
- 41:17And when you said no, I'm not going to lose my fitness, he's a
- 41:19great example of that. I got it in gear for like 3
- 41:21months now. He's right there in the thick of
- 41:23it with you guys. You think he's coming back to
- 41:25the games? Coming back to the games.
- 41:28Yeah, that's what Tyler's saying he thinks spelling is.
- 41:32He's coming back dude. You're you're wrong.
- 41:35I mean, I, I would be very happy if he did, but I think the
- 41:39reason he's stepping away from the games because he wanted, you
- 41:42know, to make a change. It's.
- 41:44Funny how things change. I don't know.
- 41:46He seemed pretty. He seemed not like he's fine
- 41:49with being around Castro. So did.
- 41:51I actually I near near Castro. He was near Castro multiple
- 41:55times. Lately at the during.
- 41:58At the meetings. Yeah, yeah.
- 42:00Oh, OK. So that's, that's cool.
- 42:02He came there. That that says a lot.
- 42:03If you wanted to hear that out and hear what they're doing.
- 42:05I mean, you know, that says he wants some kind of involvement.
- 42:08So I I respect that. Yeah, well, Jay, what makes you
- 42:11think no so hard? I still got 5 more minutes if
- 42:14we. Got 5 minutes?
- 42:15Let's party. John, keep pushing him.
- 42:17I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
- 42:19I'm sorry. I.
- 42:19Don't get to do this often. This is like this is fun for me.
- 42:22So thank you get out of my did you did.
- 42:24You hear anything? Did you hear anything from the
- 42:27meeting at Tier? No, no, but no.
- 42:30I yeah, I I don't, I don't know anything from it.
- 42:33They. Shunned you just like.
- 42:35I don't believe you weren't cool.
- 42:36Enough to be part of it. I got an invite and I was like
- 42:38can I can I zoom in? And he said.
- 42:40But you got an invite. Yeah, I got an invite to come to
- 42:43the meeting, but I obviously wasn't there.
- 42:44He he thought I was part of Tiruwaza, so he sent me an
- 42:47e-mail. Dave, you.
- 42:50Know it was a bummer. He should just put Adidas all up
- 42:55in your background. That's what you did.
- 42:58I know bro, missed opportunity, missed opportunity.
- 43:00But my dad got to represent at at waza, so he had a good time.
- 43:04So there was a spray representation there.
- 43:06Nice. That's great he went there, huh?
- 43:09I know yeah. It was glad he he failed his
- 43:11team on the erg shoot. His team was really mad at him
- 43:13because he couldn't shoot the he didn't even hit one I heard.
- 43:16What did he say about it? I don't know, but I just bought
- 43:191 because I was interested. I was like, I'm going to buy
- 43:21one. It's a write off.
- 43:22You know, I'm going to see what all the hypes.
- 43:23It's a write off, yeah, but dude, these things are
- 43:27expensive. Right they are.
- 43:28It's 1000 bucks for a a gun and a.
- 43:31Serious. More.
- 43:32More than that, dude. It's like that's more expensive
- 43:34than a real gun. Yeah.
- 43:37Well, you're considering rounds like how many?
- 43:39Like you can shoot that thing a bunch of times and not spend
- 43:42anything on ammunition is the is the difference.
- 43:45So you'll say even that, But yeah, I'd just rather buy an
- 43:49actual gun. Yeah, for sure.
- 43:51I mean, you can't shoot an actual gun in a gym.
- 43:53That's the only bummer you have to go.
- 43:54To the range you can. You.
- 43:57You can, James, I'll. Bring Frank.
- 44:00Did you discharge A firearm next to a school in a gym?
- 44:04No. No, I have no.
- 44:05Idea what you're talking about. You have the freedom do anything
- 44:08you want. Now there's consequences to your
- 44:10freedoms. There you.
- 44:12Go I I actually was like, can I bring this erg shoot thing in
- 44:15here because the kids are watching me through the window
- 44:17shoot a pistol and I'm like, are they going to get a bad like,
- 44:20oh, you know, James is shooting So so we should you know,
- 44:24firearm too. Like I'm like, I don't want that
- 44:27to look bad. So maybe I'll just do it out of
- 44:29my. Just laser tag.
- 44:30Just say it's laser tag. Yeah, it's just lasers.
- 44:33Yeah, Laser. Bags what it is.
- 44:35Nerf guns. Nerf guns were a thing growing
- 44:37up. I played with those a lot.
- 44:39There you go. That's great, dude.
- 44:43One more time mode classic mode classic 2026.
- 44:47You guys, there's like 300 people watching this.
- 44:51And come on. We're up to 500.
- 44:53Wait, is that is that pretty good?
- 44:55We need to. We need to add some.
- 44:56It's it's more than it was. Wait, hey, I'll come back.
- 44:59Let's do it again next week. Hey, who's?
- 45:01Going to keep going until it's like 1000.
- 45:04You were invited last week, you had an opportunity then too, and
- 45:07you didn't take it. I know, I'm sorry.
- 45:09This week I didn't even want to pitch into the Wazza SoCal
- 45:12because I was salty, so that was part of the reason.
- 45:15I appreciate that. I understand.
- 45:16I understand. But but I hope, I hope that you
- 45:18guys brought some perspective on those events that that it.
- 45:22Was fun. And it's always good to watch
- 45:25you guys compete. We got the 500 followers now
- 45:27over this podcast. Come on.
- 45:28Yeah, Look at the work we're doing.
- 45:30Let's get to 510 before we're doing come.
- 45:32On 503. Come on, come on.
- 45:34Let's. Follow sign up.
- 45:36We will be there. So if you want to hang out, I'm
- 45:39going to just going to make that call.
- 45:40We're going to be there. We're going to find a way.
- 45:42We're. Going to figure it out, I love
- 45:44it. We can't miss the crash of the
- 45:45West. I mean, I, I'm trying to get a
- 45:47Deus behind it. Jocko Fuel is going to be
- 45:49involved. Lycan's doing all the equipment.
- 45:51Athletes are going to get belts and knee sleeves from Element.
- 45:54Airwaves going to be giving athletes mouthpieces.
- 45:56Who else, holy balls going to be there Giving snacks like Ice Age
- 45:59meals is cooking a meal for all the athletes at the briefing.
- 46:02It's going to be thick and I want you guys there.
- 46:05So please come on out, get involved, sign up for this
- 46:08qualifier. It's going to be hard, but it's
- 46:09going to be worth it. You had me at holy balls.
- 46:12Come on, you tried it. Appreciate it man.
- 46:16Of course, Brian's trying to kick me off.
- 46:17I'll leave you boys. Look at that, we have four more
- 46:20things to cover. We got to read some viewer.
- 46:21Comments you haven't earned you haven't earned the 4th spot on
- 46:24this show yet you've done it for the boys, but you know I'll.
- 46:27Get there, I'll get there. I get it takes time.
- 46:29This is a more prestigious show. It's, you know.
- 46:31I got to beat John and his dad in a fitness off with my dad.
- 46:34I think that's how I get on. I, I, let's do it.
- 46:37We got to find out things that we all can do.
- 46:39John's dad is only going to do heavyweight so.
- 46:42No, but that's so is his dad dude.
- 46:44Like we're going to get smoke and something.
- 46:46We're good, and then we'll do some.
- 46:49Work. That'll be good.
- 46:50We might win if we don't do the urge shoot.
- 46:52Thanks dude. OK boys, I will.
- 46:55Talk to you soon, thanks for having me.
- 46:57Thank you. Bye.
- 47:02All right. Mode Classic. 20s shoot.
- 47:04Shoot, don't follow that follow mode.
- 47:06Classic. 20s hey 511 there we go we're.
- 47:10Starting to get there. We're starting to get there.
- 47:11That's much better. Dude my dad has like a gun
- 47:16closet. Gun closet.
- 47:19Like it like a John Wick type like setup.
- 47:22So like like like so many guns you like you would it's like
- 47:27walk in hallway. Because it doesn't actually
- 47:31translate to real firearms. So that's good.
- 47:37Yeah, Motor Classic sounds pretty cool.
- 47:39November 13th, the 17th online qualifier.
- 47:45I guess we should get to the rest of the show.
- 47:47Viewer comments. We got some good ones I think at
- 47:52NJSB Construction. I could be dead wrong, but since
- 47:57Guy made that ridiculous post about someone needs to buy him a
- 48:01bicycle earlier this year, every time he opens his mouth I think
- 48:05he sounds like an arrogant, whiny baby.
- 48:10Me too. Weird.
- 48:11Yeah, I thought you. Were going to be wrong, but you
- 48:12weren't. At Vidal Para I didn't see
- 48:18anyone bash the tier Wazza for their bad lighting.
- 48:23Because it wasn't bad. John was right, you all have
- 48:26something against WFP. OK, but we it wasn't bad
- 48:31lighting. I think it was better than WFP
- 48:36last year. Was trash last year.
- 48:39Was. Garbage and we called it out
- 48:40during during the spin cast. I don't think I had any issues
- 48:46with the lighting of it right. No, I think that I I think I
- 48:52fall in line with the PFA that it's dangerous and all the
- 48:56slippery surfaces that they need to be careful for.
- 48:58But that's luckily we've not had to worry about it at Chelsea
- 49:03Miller. I love the show, you got fun to
- 49:08listen to and are knowledgeable. But I do agree please mute the
- 49:15mic while eating. Thank you for doing the spin
- 49:18cast. Sorry, not sorry.
- 49:21Get over it. It's part of the, it's part of
- 49:24the experience here at the spin cast.
- 49:26This one's for you, Tyler. We're going back to NJSB
- 49:30construction. I think Alexis Wrap this needs a
- 49:35change of scenery. Maybe time to get with Brute.
- 49:38Sometimes you have to be a little selfish.
- 49:44I don't know how to comment on that.
- 49:45Maybe, maybe not. I think I think she's got a good
- 49:50setup in Indianapolis. I think the vault like the
- 49:54volume of the seasons getting to her, when you get one injury and
- 49:59you don't take quite a bit of time off and it's like it's a
- 50:02big deal injury, it'll get you. But was it?
- 50:05Her back though, or was it like sounded like she had like a 24
- 50:09hour stomach bug or stomach could.
- 50:11Have been that whatever it is, I don't, I'm not going to like say
- 50:17she needs to go to Brute. I think she's been working to
- 50:20set her life up pretty decent. So yeah.
- 50:25You just, you can't criticize TTT, right Tyler?
- 50:28It's got nothing to do with TTT. It's fully Alexis, I think.
- 50:33I don't know, I just, I think something always happens to her,
- 50:37like always. I don't, I don't think a change
- 50:39of scenery would be be too bad of an idea.
- 50:43But, you know, if she likes where she's at, there's no, you
- 50:47know, there's no point in changing either, you know?
- 50:50I don't think you can make a determination on where she is
- 50:55based on this season. I think she should change how
- 50:58she trains. Why?
- 51:03Because something always freaking happens to her.
- 51:07So like if she's over trained going into a competition she
- 51:10gets hurt or if she's not meal prepping the right way.
- 51:14And honestly she probably does all this stuff great but somehow
- 51:19something you need to try something different for
- 51:21something not to happen. Like just to have a smooth run.
- 51:27Bill told me to go back up loud. Live sports is watching.
- 51:31The truth is you decline the invite, James.
- 51:33Why is nobody telling that story?
- 51:35Oh, he didn't say that. He said something, James.
- 51:40Or us. Well, if it's us, I didn't have
- 51:44a hand in it 'cause I don't know, I don't know anything, I
- 51:46don't know anything. Shuffled that off real.
- 51:50Quick, I mean. I don't know same as them I am.
- 51:56So I have no idea. That's always a bad wolf.
- 52:01You guys are so silly. Work out too.
- 52:03The erg shoot was not hard to understand.
- 52:06Y'all just never stop talking. They just shoot waterfall style
- 52:11until the team reached 20 shots. Since Dylan is listening, it was
- 52:17utterly confusing. I I could not disagree with him.
- 52:21We we did talk a lot, but we only talked.
- 52:24Upgraded from trash to mediocre, improved and they met the PFA
- 52:28lighting standard. So they have a standard.
- 52:31For lighting, Dylan, with all due respect, I know I've not
- 52:35talked to you either. I I just keep talking about
- 52:37people that I haven't talked to. I thought Wadapalooza soak out
- 52:41was a great event. We had fun watching it.
- 52:43We had fun talking about it. We had fun last year.
- 52:45I think it is a hit. It is.
- 52:48I can't like every year I'm I look forward to it and I think
- 52:52it's only going to grow and get bigger and it's awesome.
- 52:54That being said, the erg shoot event was one of the worst
- 52:59things I've ever seen. OK, I would have can it.
- 53:02I would have can it to strong woman.
- 53:04So you go watch the strong women, the whole Invitational,
- 53:09and then that's a different kind of bad.
- 53:11That's the fun that we had watching that.
- 53:14It was it was at the five yard line like.
- 53:17I would say we had more fun watching strong women than the
- 53:20Urge shoot competition. Probably because there are noses
- 53:22that are bleeding. I mean, I have them play
- 53:24literally let laser tag. I actually thought Dylan.
- 53:27I think you should just make him play tag.
- 53:29Take no through. A playground.
- 53:31Throw a playground like the tag World Championships.
- 53:34Everybody would be entertained by that.
- 53:36This is. A great idea.
- 53:37No, No downsides. At all or not.
- 53:40Have fun watching that. Well, for sure.
- 53:43Would have fun watching it. They wouldn't do it.
- 53:45Why then they would lose? One team's losing because one
- 53:49team would do it. That's right, everybody loves
- 53:51some good cornhole. That's true.
- 53:53No, I think, I think Tyler's right.
- 53:55They're on the 5 yard line they had making it so you actually
- 53:59could see it. They have to like tie it into
- 54:01better lighting you couldn't see.
- 54:02It they made it a huge. Like green light I.
- 54:05Agree. Maybe the five yard line on the
- 54:06other side. It was dark for the athletes to
- 54:08be able to see what they were actually shooting at.
- 54:11And then they needed to do something that was a little bit
- 54:13more consequent, consequential for that, right?
- 54:18Like it was just, oh, you missed, OK, cool.
- 54:20Next one up, try it. Like, you know, dump some type
- 54:23of penalty or something at Elizabeth Daws Kim, I don't
- 54:30know, Love it when you stick to CrossFit content and avoid
- 54:34political content. You're welcome, I guess.
- 54:38Cool. At Abstract Genius comments,
- 54:42he's genius. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
- 54:45Abstract genius is one of those negative every time people.
- 54:48So I'm going to guess that this is a negative comment because
- 54:52he's just like the correct guy. He does.
- 54:54All he does is just say negative things every show, no matter
- 54:59what. Please tell me it's good.
- 55:01This will be great. It's for Tyler Stick.
- 55:05With me. With that being said.
- 55:08If you want to limit women's rights over their own violence.
- 55:12What are you? Talking about oh man without on
- 55:17a ledge. Put taxpaying people on camps.
- 55:22OK. Support religion over science.
- 55:25OK. Choose guns over children's
- 55:28safety. OK.
- 55:29Think comedians are a threat to freedom of speech and that we
- 55:35should mourn Magda Goebbels since she made a good strudel
- 55:41and had five kids. You're not a good person, Tyler.
- 55:47That was pulled out of thin air. What is she talking about?
- 55:51And listen, I want, I want you to take that to heart.
- 55:54Abstract genius usually like he's he's just dead on always
- 55:58like whatever he says. I couldn't agree more.
- 56:01Yeah. You take that to heart for sure.
- 56:03I cannot think of whatever they're referencing that I
- 56:06talked about women's rights or what what is happening.
- 56:13I didn't talk about garbles either.
- 56:15I. First of all, sorry, Elizabeth
- 56:18Dawkins. We're talking about politics,
- 56:19but actually abstract genius brought us there.
- 56:22I don't know what's going on. Dude, I, you know the Billy
- 56:25Madison thing where it's like under no circumstance did you
- 56:29say anything that was incredible or in any we're.
- 56:33All, in fact, dumb. Correct, and we're all more
- 56:35stupid for having listened to it.
- 56:37That's how I feel. About it, I don't even know what
- 56:39politics we talked about last. Year.
- 56:40Yeah, Here we go. Here we go, Magnus.
- 56:47Let's see. And Megan BF, maybe you should
- 56:51start talking about the genocide in Gaza.
- 56:54I don't even know what's going on in the comments anymore.
- 56:55But anyway, just keep dropping them in the comments.
- 56:58We'll read them off, it doesn't matter.
- 56:59If they're we're just going to start a new show like.
- 57:03Might as well. When have we ever talked?
- 57:06This is a sports show, people. Yeah, well, I.
- 57:08Started with John talking about Charlie Kirk the day.
- 57:11Are they still upset about me talking?
- 57:13About it's a different, it's a different show, so I don't even
- 57:15know what's going on, but that's where everybody started getting
- 57:18upset. If it upsets you this much
- 57:20people, then you need to watch a different show. 100%.
- 57:28Mason Griffin, I thought you should be busy texting Trista.
- 57:33I don't know why you're in our chat but appreciate it.
- 57:38Dude, if I hear one more political deal, I'm going to put
- 57:43a, I'm going to put a Israeli flag in my background and just
- 57:47see what happens and just see what happens.
- 57:51Well done Dylan. That's good shit.
- 57:54Joe B499 showed up late. Rewinding now LMAO.
- 57:59You guys rule DB sucks just so everybody.
- 58:02Knows what did What did Danielle do?
- 58:05I know Danielle was great this week.
- 58:08I guess Jules didn't gift you a membership, maybe that'll
- 58:10change. Here might be it Crossfat Grant
- 58:14made loud live sports. I could see it.
- 58:18I could see it. Let's review the TFX workouts,
- 58:21no? We're all we're all doing it.
- 58:25So that's. Why?
- 58:28That's why I know we, we were, you know, if you guys didn't
- 58:30watch us. That's funny, no?
- 58:32If you guys didn't watch us do the spin cast, first of all,
- 58:35shame on you. Second of all, Watapulsa.
- 58:39Watapulsa. Watapulsa is now the official
- 58:41name going forward. It is not Tierrawatapalooza,
- 58:45sorry. After sitting back on it.
- 58:51And John, I know you like it. Tyler, do you enjoy?
- 58:54Watching Yeah I. The water poles.
- 58:57I would agree with John, like I had a lot of fun doing the show.
- 59:01Like we stayed up late and I felt like shit on Sunday for
- 59:05sure. It was later for you because
- 59:07you're on Eastern. Time.
- 59:08Yeah, dude, ending and getting in bed at like 1:00, That was
- 59:11tough, but I still had a shit ton of fun doing it.
- 59:16Would do it every single time. It's a cool competition.
- 59:20It's different. I do.
- 59:25Would you like to see anything different?
- 59:26Like would you rather see, do you like the North America
- 59:30versus world? Would you rather see it an extra
- 59:33team? If you did, how would you do
- 59:35that? I so things that would change
- 59:38logistically, I would add at least one more, if not two more
- 59:41teams. I know bodies might get a little
- 59:45tough and then like they pay out a certain way and they might
- 59:49want to keep it lower just for that to reduce cost.
- 59:52But I would add at minimum another team.
- 59:55And then the scoring's a little weird.
- 59:57Like, of course, I'm going to talk about this, but getting
- 1:00:01points for an event just for finishing versus like being
- 1:00:04within a certain distance and like Bill and I were talking
- 1:00:06about how would you score that or whatever?
- 1:00:09I, I, I'm not sure, but like that, those are little tweaks
- 1:00:12that I would make. I think adding a third team
- 1:00:14would just make it way more interesting.
- 1:00:17Yeah, I would say. A spin team.
- 1:00:19It's a. Huge.
- 1:00:20It's a yeah. Well, definitely for that for
- 1:00:22sure. Just let us pick those who get
- 1:00:25shunned. Yeah.
- 1:00:30They put a huge risk I think on having two teams now.
- 1:00:35Yeah, that was evident in the last event.
- 1:00:38You know, it's just there, there there could be a chance at some
- 1:00:42point in the year where it's like, you know, down the road,
- 1:00:45one team just dominates the other.
- 1:00:47Next thing you know, Sunday sucks.
- 1:00:49Yeah. Like there's no point in even
- 1:00:51doing it. I think three teams probably
- 1:00:54eliminates that some. I don't.
- 1:00:57I think I'd like to do 3 at most.
- 1:01:02I don't know how. Yeah.
- 1:01:02I don't think you can keep it region based.
- 1:01:03So if you do that. If you do three teams, you could
- 1:01:08do the spin team. If you did three teams.
- 1:01:11I think there should be some sort of lineage to the team,
- 1:01:16like this whole North America thing.
- 1:01:17I mean, Brent was on World last. Year.
- 1:01:20Last year was weird though. Too.
- 1:01:21Yeah, last year was weird. Would you?
- 1:01:24Try to make it like the Invitational.
- 1:01:29Meaning. The old.
- 1:01:30Invitational 4. Oh, the old.
- 1:01:32Only have 4 athletes though too right?
- 1:01:34Right. But it's three teams of 8
- 1:01:36instead of four teams of four. But I mean like you can just.
- 1:01:40Divide them. I do like the three teams of
- 1:01:42eight. I just don't know how you would
- 1:01:44break it up into geographies if you do that.
- 1:01:47Right, I don't like I know that they they won't ever do this,
- 1:01:52but like a camp style thing or I don't know if you do East West.
- 1:01:56Camps that do that? How many camps have 8 athletes?
- 1:01:59That are That's true. There's proven Mayhem and Brute.
- 1:02:03I don't think Mayhem didn't. Mayhem wouldn't have a good
- 1:02:06team. Yeah.
- 1:02:08No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't do camps.
- 1:02:11I think I would go. I would go Europe, North America
- 1:02:19and then Oceania. Yeah, Europe, North America and
- 1:02:25world essentially, but it's just Oceana.
- 1:02:28Now you could say world, but. But what do you do with Guy He.
- 1:02:31He doesn't come. South America just gets just
- 1:02:35gets axed. But I don't think you should do
- 1:02:38North America, Europe and then World, right?
- 1:02:42Or you could do well, you, you know what, here's here's what I
- 1:02:44think you could do. You could do North America,
- 1:02:47Europe and then miscellaneous, meaning the people and and like
- 1:02:54or or team. Miscellaneous.
- 1:02:56The Leftovers or, or like you could whatever, like we can come
- 1:03:00up with a better name for it. But like, for instance, like
- 1:03:03like James, James would be on that team.
- 1:03:05Austin would be on that team. Like, Gee, could be on that
- 1:03:08team. Obviously the Oceania people,
- 1:03:11right? Just just people, people who
- 1:03:15aren't on. I mean, I don't think they'll
- 1:03:16beat North America, man. They had everybody to pick from.
- 1:03:20Now, they didn't beat North America and you're taking all
- 1:03:26the Europeans away, You know what I mean?
- 1:03:28So Emma Tall, Amy Kringle, Manuel Likai probably, you know,
- 1:03:38but you're taking their machine girls that are great, you're
- 1:03:41taking them away. North America, Europe, Southern.
- 1:03:46And Tia. And Tia is about to be and Tia
- 1:03:49is about to be done. You know what I mean true, but
- 1:03:53and when I and I like we we need it have a better name for it,
- 1:03:57but I want like the other team to have like like Austin
- 1:04:00Hatfield like these people weren't good enough to be on
- 1:04:03North America the. Replacements.
- 1:04:04Rather replacements maybe, but then you have Oceania with it,
- 1:04:08right? Right.
- 1:04:11And then when the replacements win, if they win, then they
- 1:04:17should be like. I don't know, they should be
- 1:04:20able to change the format. It's a.
- 1:04:21Good way to do it you could like because it's brought to you by
- 1:04:25it has been brought to you by tier and so you could have a
- 1:04:31third team buy in essentially like hey, you bring your own
- 1:04:35sponsor like that we will allow a.
- 1:04:37Sponsor wild card. It's a wild team.
- 1:04:39Foxcatcher sort of situation. Oh, I like that.
- 1:04:42Yeah, what if it was brand based, if Tier was able to bring
- 1:04:46a team? I don't like you.
- 1:04:48Just could bring a Team I. Don't like that?
- 1:04:50I wonder if the brands would do that.
- 1:04:52I think it's too hard to follow. The best thing to do spin is the
- 1:04:57draft. But the but the brands could
- 1:04:59bring like they could buy in yeah, buy into it.
- 1:05:03Hey, it's another revenue stream, right.
- 1:05:05So like. But like is rad.
- 1:05:06Going to want to share with fucking Tear, you know what I'm
- 1:05:10saying? Has has Dylan heard our draft
- 1:05:12idea? Yes.
- 1:05:16He had OK and he didn't he didn't care for it.
- 1:05:18I. Mean I, I think, I think tier
- 1:05:20had some something to say about that.
- 1:05:23Format because I think you could do brands like you're saying but
- 1:05:27they just pick 3 captains and then it doesn't matter who the
- 1:05:30rest of the people are. If it's team tier and you have
- 1:05:33freaking I I I hate the brand idea then dude like I I.
- 1:05:38This team Adidas is. Like.
- 1:05:40We're not going to draft a tier athlete.
- 1:05:42Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but like, I mean, Rogue
- 1:05:44could buy in like basically almost like a sponsorship type
- 1:05:47thing where you limit it to like 4 people, four teams or
- 1:05:50something like that. And it's like.
- 1:05:52The draft would be so cool though man.
- 1:05:54Yeah. Oh 100% agree.
- 1:05:56That'd be great, but. I don't know what you got to do
- 1:05:58to get another team, but you need another team.
- 1:06:01Yeah, I would do that. But yeah, Patrick, draft like
- 1:06:06Fit Fest did that one year, except we actually have to make
- 1:06:09it public and not just like, oh, we drafted some people.
- 1:06:13And to have a live stream that. Happened in the past.
- 1:06:18Yeah. I I hope it continues.
- 1:06:19I think it's an All Star game. It's an exhibition.
- 1:06:22It's fun, it's different. It's not the same old thing of
- 1:06:27the same athletes fighting, competing.
- 1:06:30I don't think they were that beat up over from the weekend.
- 1:06:34No. Maybe to you.
- 1:06:37Yeah, hey, see, like Dylan, what if Spin, Tyler and JY are each
- 1:06:40coaches and draft the team? Great.
- 1:06:42An idea. Great.
- 1:06:43Idea Dylan, don't tease me, man. Don't like 'cause then I'm I'm
- 1:06:47going to be let down if you don't do that.
- 1:06:49Media team. And we could be the coaches and
- 1:06:53dude, oh man. And everyone knows I'm the best
- 1:06:56coach. Listen, do you know how much,
- 1:06:58like how much it would be replayed on Instagram?
- 1:07:01When I say Tia, you sucked, I don't want to hear you talk.
- 1:07:05And then she pops you in the mouth.
- 1:07:08That but yeah, but that would make great coverage, right?
- 1:07:12Right. I'm like, hey, I'm like, hey, we
- 1:07:13don't need the pep talk from last place on Necco on Fran.
- 1:07:16We're going to get it together. We're not going to get a you
- 1:07:18know what? You take a seat, Tia, I know
- 1:07:20you're the GOAT, but you've been bad today.
- 1:07:24OK, so take a seat. Coach test All three go head to
- 1:07:28head worth double points. I'm I'm already getting fit for
- 1:07:32quarterfinals. Let's let's rock it.
- 1:07:35You're trying to get that top 25%, aren't you?
- 1:07:37Tyler's team, I'm not responsible for the picks for
- 1:07:43people to go in. That's true.
- 1:07:46So I'm. More of a a motivational coach,
- 1:07:48you know, like offensive line sort of situation.
- 1:07:51Yeah. And of course, who knows what
- 1:07:54happens next year with here Watapalooza Miami or my
- 1:07:58Watapalooza Miami or Miami Beach or what.
- 1:08:01Pools. Pools.
- 1:08:04We'll see how that all plays out, but I think it's time for
- 1:08:09some blind rankings. Before we do this, by the way,
- 1:08:12Tia, I don't want you to be mad at me for saying that I think
- 1:08:15you're great. I like team proving you just
- 1:08:18weren't. You weren't great at there,
- 1:08:21there. You weren't great.
- 1:08:22But I I don't, don't be mad at me for a second.
- 1:08:25I think you can't. I guess going back, sticking
- 1:08:30with that, I really think she didn't compete, like she didn't
- 1:08:34train for six weeks. Either, well, it's one or the
- 1:08:36other, and they're both bad. Well, I guess I'm being
- 1:08:38pregnant. It's not bad, but it's one or
- 1:08:41the other. Very bad.
- 1:08:43I would say the only thing that's weird is that she's not
- 1:08:45competing at Rd. Yeah, if she's not pregnant,
- 1:08:55like if she's not, if she's not pregnant, I'm like, why would
- 1:08:57you not go to Rove? I do stand by, I think as long
- 1:09:01as you do the, as long as she does the games, I think she'll
- 1:09:03win the games. I think she'll be 44 years old
- 1:09:06and still win the games. But you just.
- 1:09:10Change. She's not above not training for
- 1:09:12it. I wonder if she just kind of
- 1:09:15burnt. Maybe.
- 1:09:19Like she's like, but think about, she's doing what every
- 1:09:23other athlete has always done in the past.
- 1:09:26Up until this past year with the Tear Cup, nobody trained for an
- 1:09:31entire month. Like they disappeared for an
- 1:09:33entire month. Right, she's also a mom.
- 1:09:36They'd come back in September and they just do a little stuff.
- 1:09:39They they, they didn't do a whole lot.
- 1:09:42They just really, until it was training for Rogue, they took us
- 1:09:46four to six weeks off of nothing serious.
- 1:09:49Do you think they have good pizza in Australia?
- 1:09:52I bet they don't, it sounds trash.
- 1:09:53No, I Australia doesn't sound like a good pizza place, But
- 1:09:56she's also she's also a mom too, like that that if you're taking
- 1:10:01like, you know, that takes your time.
- 1:10:02You know, Tyler is finding out real quick.
- 1:10:06Like all of a sudden Jeanette's real busy, you know, Leslie's
- 1:10:10all sad randomly, and I think I've done something.
- 1:10:13And no, she's just sad. Like it's just she's just
- 1:10:16overwhelmed on that day. Dude kids are crazy man.
- 1:10:19Dealing with kids is is a full time and a half job.
- 1:10:22Wait till I start. Driving.
- 1:10:24We're talking back to you. That's good.
- 1:10:26I'll be like, see. Ya, yeah, When they're driving,
- 1:10:28I'm like, why don't you go take a ride?
- 1:10:29Yeah, don't call me. Don't call me later, yeah.
- 1:10:35That happens. I did that.
- 1:10:37That happens a lot. All right, blind rankings.
- 1:10:44There we go. This week, I think everybody
- 1:10:47liked the states last week. We're not going to do states or
- 1:10:50cities, but we are going to stay off of the CrossFit topics this
- 1:10:55week. Good.
- 1:10:56I hate CrossFit. Good.
- 1:10:59Crossfat or CrossFit? I think these are much better
- 1:11:01with not doing CrossFit because everybody has different opinions
- 1:11:04it. Is true.
- 1:11:05This time we're going to the food route.
- 1:11:08Oh boy, we've already done. Yeah, we've already done fast
- 1:11:12food. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:11:16So what could it be? Oh, you're.
- 1:11:18Doing appetizers, I'm not a big. Appetizer guy.
- 1:11:23I will say I'm not a big. But I have big opinions about
- 1:11:29when we do appetizers. So like if we're going to go I,
- 1:11:33I have very specific ones I hit. We need to appetize correctly.
- 1:11:37What? What's like your goat appetizer?
- 1:11:43I don't even know what qualifies as an appetizer.
- 1:11:46It's the thing you eat before your meal.
- 1:11:47Yeah. But usually share with others
- 1:11:50Nacho. Chips, Nacho chips.
- 1:11:52That's your. You don't get an opinion if
- 1:11:55nachos are your. I, I, I, no, I don't, I don't
- 1:11:59know, like, like just let me see it and then I'll, I'll tell you.
- 1:12:03Oh dude, I've had some fried Pickles before and they were
- 1:12:05good. God Dang it, John, fried
- 1:12:09Pickles. I'm talking like mozzarella
- 1:12:13sticks, the bread they give you at Texas Roadhouse.
- 1:12:18OK, I'm good with the. Oh, with the Olive Garden
- 1:12:21breadsticks. Yeah.
- 1:12:22Blooming onions. Olive, I'm OK.
- 1:12:24I'm with you. I'm with you.
- 1:12:26Fazoli's had good breadsticks. Those Southwest egg rolls, they
- 1:12:29got a. Chili's 25 years some.
- 1:12:31Cracker Barrel rolls, Cracker Barrel roll.
- 1:12:34No, not the rolls. You gotta get the biscuits, but.
- 1:12:37I'm I'm there with you. I'm, I'm with yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 1:12:39yeah, yeah. Has anybody?
- 1:12:39Been to Fazoli's in the last like 15 years.
- 1:12:42No kills. I'm some.
- 1:12:43I'm an old. I'm an old.
- 1:12:46You don't say. When did you go to Fazoli's?
- 1:12:52It's been a while but I I remember the bread sticks being
- 1:12:56really good. We're good.
- 1:12:59All right, here we go. This is going to be interesting
- 1:13:03since neither of you guys like appetizers.
- 1:13:05First one. Chicken wings that a main course
- 1:13:10I. Didn't know that was an
- 1:13:11appetizer. Yeah, I'm with Tyler.
- 1:13:12That's that's a main thing. If they have wings that I
- 1:13:16suspect are good, I will order double appetizer wings order.
- 1:13:20Just like 20 wings. Yeah.
- 1:13:23This is 1 for me if this is if that's what we're talking about.
- 1:13:26As an appetizer. It's not an appetizer.
- 1:13:28It is an appetizer. Like.
- 1:13:30We're going to say ribs is the next appetizer and then steak is
- 1:13:34the next appetizer. It's like.
- 1:13:36To me it's a three because it's not an ad dude.
- 1:13:38It's the best thing that's going to be on this list as far as
- 1:13:41like what you want to eat. It's the best thing on this list
- 1:13:44if it's going to call it an appetizer, even though we
- 1:13:46disagree. If we order 6 to 8 wings, I'm
- 1:13:50not sharing them with anyone and so it's not an appetizer for
- 1:13:53anybody else but me. It's number one in my opinion.
- 1:13:59Fine, we'll give John number one.
- 1:14:01We we get screwed on #1 anyway. Because it's the I, I don't
- 1:14:05think I'm going to want to eat any of these other things.
- 1:14:08And everybody loves chicken wings.
- 1:14:10Everybody. Little chicken curds and ranch
- 1:14:14cheese curds all. Right.
- 1:14:17Well, number one's gone. Last week you went the the
- 1:14:20bottom three were first. Yeah.
- 1:14:23And we paid dearly. For it, yeah, Georgia should
- 1:14:25have been on top of this. I I, I'm, I agree, Tyler.
- 1:14:30Here we go, fried calamari. This is a good appetizer. 2.
- 1:14:36It's a Yeah 2. It's a meat.
- 1:14:38I've had this. I've had this before and I liked
- 1:14:40it. Yeah, you don't have it very
- 1:14:42often. It's good.
- 1:14:45This is the we are, we are, we are connected, Tyler.
- 1:14:49It's because we don't like appetizers, all right?
- 1:14:53Here we go, mozzarella sticks. 33 if they're good connected
- 1:15:01Tyler. I went on.
- 1:15:03I don't I don't like mozzarella sticks, but I know a lot of
- 1:15:05people do like mozzarella sticks so I'll put it at 3:00.
- 1:15:07You can screw them up so easy. So I went to Quaker State two
- 1:15:12weeks ago because I've never been.
- 1:15:14It's a it's a wing place and they had rotten mozzarella
- 1:15:17sticks and I got them and it did not have a good cheese pool.
- 1:15:21Like if you're doing mozzarella sticks, you better get that
- 1:15:23sucker 4 feet apart before that cheese breaks.
- 1:15:25Is the flaker state also like motor oil?
- 1:15:28Yeah, OK, Great wings, great wings.
- 1:15:33OK. Is that only in college or was
- 1:15:36it? State College, State College
- 1:15:39I've and they have one in Knoxville, but I, I, I've not
- 1:15:43seen very many of them. It must be a Northeast thing.
- 1:15:47OK, all right, four and five are left.
- 1:15:50What could be better than worse than mozzarella sticks?
- 1:15:55Jalapeno poppers. I I think a lot 5 I've.
- 1:16:01Never had them. I don't think John likes spicy.
- 1:16:05I'm not, I'm not. I'm fine with spicy.
- 1:16:08I think a lot of people would rank jalapeno poppers above
- 1:16:12mozzarella sticks. Really.
- 1:16:14Yeah. OK, I'll leave this to you.
- 1:16:17If they have them, Jeanette's getting them every single time.
- 1:16:21I've never, I've never had them. They're good, dude.
- 1:16:23It's, it's a. It's a, it's a.
- 1:16:25Pillars in. They're good as fuck.
- 1:16:27See, there you go. Yeah.
- 1:16:30So 4, this is under ranked. I think it's essentially A
- 1:16:34mozzarella stick with jalapenos. OK.
- 1:16:38So you would put it at 3:00? Yeah, I would put it at 3:00.
- 1:16:41OK, so we're not messed up that bad.
- 1:16:43For the people, I think I would want mozzarella sticks more than
- 1:16:46jalapeno poppers, but I think people are probably right on
- 1:16:48this one. They're better as an appetizer.
- 1:16:52OK Captain Rogers, can we rename this blind rankings as shitty
- 1:16:55appetizers? We're going, you know, I mean
- 1:16:58straight chili style appetizers. Here that is true.
- 1:17:02And the last one, John? Would love this one.
- 1:17:04Baby buck. Baby Buck Bridge.
- 1:17:07Nachos. Great list here, we really did
- 1:17:12well. I'm fine with it man.
- 1:17:13This is. Crazy you went one through 5 in
- 1:17:15order. Nachos.
- 1:17:20So it's salsa. You should get chips and salsa,
- 1:17:23not nachos. Oh, I just eat the chips.
- 1:17:25I don't. I don't put it in sauce.
- 1:17:27Nachos to me to notes. Just eat them dry.
- 1:17:30Yeah, I I eat everything dry. I don't put food or anything I
- 1:17:35eat every. I don't put sauce on anything.
- 1:17:38I eat everything dry. I think nachos denotes cheese to
- 1:17:43me. I, I understand what you're
- 1:17:46saying and I, I would agree with you.
- 1:17:48I think most people do, right? But I, I think that's, I think
- 1:17:55that's, I think when you see nachos, you think nachos and
- 1:17:59cheese, right? So I'm taking this as nachos and
- 1:18:02cheese. See, when I see nachos though,
- 1:18:05like Trish is saying, brisket nachos specifically, those are
- 1:18:08fancy nachos, like fully loaded nachos.
- 1:18:11That's a really good appetizer. All right, cool.
- 1:18:18We're done. I'm sorry, it's just, I just
- 1:18:23don't have a lot of things to say about appetizers, John.
- 1:18:27I understand Bill, that they are an appetizer on a lot of things,
- 1:18:31but they're not an appetizer to me.
- 1:18:32Wings are a meal. I can eat 20 wings and be happy
- 1:18:37with life and nothing else. Not even the celery.
- 1:18:39But you order about the appetizer menu.
- 1:18:41Just yeah, it's it's it's it's mischaracterized.
- 1:18:47All right, Tom Gibson, so JY is officially a psycho.
- 1:18:54This is what this is. This is the comment.
- 1:18:57Not eating sauce is what drew him to that line.
- 1:19:01Oh, I'm sorry, I I don't know how to change my sweet.
- 1:19:05Like you don't have a go to sauce that you I thought you
- 1:19:08like at McDonald's you. Were like, Oh yeah, yeah.
- 1:19:10So I'll put sweet and sour sauce for McDonald's chicken Nuggets,
- 1:19:15but every other I I don't put sauce on anything else.
- 1:19:21Salad. I don't eat salad.
- 1:19:24No. Fair enough.
- 1:19:28Ken Walters is smart high ground beef chips.
- 1:19:30It's become an app at home. There you go.
- 1:19:33Get the protein in all right. Sorry, appetizers was not the
- 1:19:42nobody liked the appetizers. I liked it.
- 1:19:45It's. Yeah, you know it was.
- 1:19:47Exciting. But not all he hits man.
- 1:19:49That's fair. Let me try.
- 1:19:53What is that? I didn't want that last one, so
- 1:19:59I posed a question. There we go.
- 1:20:03Why are CrossFit changes to the CrossFit season viewed
- 1:20:09negatively? Do do do we view them or why?
- 1:20:19I think the public does. I mean, are you asking us
- 1:20:23though, do we, what are our views on them or why do people
- 1:20:26look? At Well, first of all, why do
- 1:20:27people like Should the changes season to season, year to year
- 1:20:33be viewed negatively or should we embrace differences?
- 1:20:40It, it makes it feel like less of a, I think everybody wants
- 1:20:45the sport to be professional and so it makes it feel less
- 1:20:48professional if you do that every year.
- 1:20:51But that's not like, I just think that's a fallacy, like
- 1:20:53that's we don't have a professional sport.
- 1:20:59Do you do you have strong feelings on this or not?
- 1:21:03I. Well, it just got me thinking
- 1:21:06like, why are we when when they change the season, why are
- 1:21:10people upset about it? I don't know if they're upset, I
- 1:21:14think they're annoyed. So like I I could care less
- 1:21:20about like what how it is that how the season where obviously I
- 1:21:23have a preference, right And I actually think what we got going
- 1:21:26on right now is like really good and you're like we'll see we'll
- 1:21:30see what happens. But just from the my viewpoint
- 1:21:34of it, I think this is going to be a hit.
- 1:21:38But as far as like it changing from year to year, I I'm really
- 1:21:42just I'm so indifferent about it.
- 1:21:45I get why people are. I do see it is annoying because
- 1:21:48you want to know how do you get to the games, right?
- 1:21:50And if it changes every single year, like from an outside
- 1:21:55perspective, it's hard to make the sport grow a little bit if
- 1:21:57they're interested in, oh, the process of it all, like it
- 1:22:01changes every year, right. And then like it's a little
- 1:22:04confusing, right? So if they didn't change every
- 1:22:08year, people like like it gives to the facade of stability of it
- 1:22:14just staying the same every year, right?
- 1:22:18I know that Jeanette for like 3 years in a row was like a couple
- 1:22:24spots out of semifinals because they kept upping the cut every
- 1:22:29year. And that was really frustrating
- 1:22:31to her. And I understood that because if
- 1:22:33like you're training to be that, you know, a semifinals athlete
- 1:22:36and it gets taken, the rug gets swept underneath you every time.
- 1:22:40That's, that's very frustrating. And then I, I was thinking like
- 1:22:44back in the regionals days, it was stable for what, like four
- 1:22:47or five years, but the regions would change.
- 1:22:51Like the the season was the same but the regions would change or
- 1:22:54the number would change. But you.
- 1:22:56Know what you're training for. Yeah.
- 1:23:00Like it's so I'm not OK here. Here's a good example of why, of
- 1:23:04why I think people look at it negatively when it went to the
- 1:23:071% of the Open. I know what the Open is and I'm
- 1:23:12like, well, I guess I just am not competing in CrossFit
- 1:23:16anymore. Like I don't need to train hard
- 1:23:20or I don't need to get super fit to like do the best I can in
- 1:23:23quarters, whatever I'm not going to compete with.
- 1:23:25Like we'll do the open workouts, but I don't care how fit I am
- 1:23:30because the Open's going to test one thing and I'm literally the
- 1:23:35worst. It's my worst thing, right?
- 1:23:36So it just kind of like took the sales out for me as far as
- 1:23:40training goes right now. Obviously you should get, I
- 1:23:43should get better at that, right?
- 1:23:45But but when you have another level or quarterfinals where
- 1:23:51you're going to kind of do harder things, it's fun to see
- 1:23:54where you're at in the world. Like it, it makes it more fun
- 1:23:58for everybody to see where they're at in the world or, you
- 1:24:01know, with your fitness and people can compete, right,
- 1:24:04Because the Open's a big catch all and then you and then you
- 1:24:07try harder stuff and then you can say, OK, who's actually the
- 1:24:11fittest. You just use the quarterfinals
- 1:24:13as like an all around test where like what the Open used to be.
- 1:24:17I think what the open used to be when it was 5 weeks is what
- 1:24:20quarterfinals is now. I'd agree with that real quick.
- 1:24:25Brian G $10 JY How much would it take you to do the one chip
- 1:24:32challenge prior to the next blind rankings?
- 1:24:35More than that. You can't even get the one chip
- 1:24:38anymore I don't think. I mean, I've I've.
- 1:24:40Didn't didn't James take? It I think James did yeah, I
- 1:24:43think James did yeah. I, I don't mind spice, but like
- 1:24:47I think that would RIP me apart like it's not worth it so.
- 1:24:51Not worth it. One time I want to pull this up
- 1:24:53and talk about it really quick. Just a a negative for the sake
- 1:24:57of being negative. Great job Pat, you're awesome.
- 1:24:59I wish everybody strived to be as good of an athlete as you
- 1:25:02were, as you are currently you are.
- 1:25:05Yeah, No, are like I just I I'll never be the level that Pat is
- 1:25:09at anything. So I'm just it's he's admirable.
- 1:25:13So he says, John, you're never serious an athlete if you
- 1:25:15literally look at one event, not like it and then give up.
- 1:25:17I don't know if I've ever done that.
- 1:25:19So that's incredibly false. And I like, I feel like I try to
- 1:25:23do stuff that I'm not good at all the time.
- 1:25:26But it's not about being serious as an athlete.
- 1:25:29That's not, it's about having a goal to train towards, to work
- 1:25:34out towards giving you something to make that it's going to make
- 1:25:39you want to be fitter. And whenever it's just the top
- 1:25:421% in the open, I was like discouraging, I think for a lot
- 1:25:47of people, myself included, because you're not going to be
- 1:25:50in the top 1%. Yeah, it gives you less of an
- 1:25:53incentive. So you're looking at it from
- 1:25:55your perspective. No, but I think a lot of people
- 1:25:58share that perspective. OK.
- 1:26:00So you think it's more of a personal than it is a spectator
- 1:26:04concern? A spectator, yes.
- 1:26:08Yeah, it's different than a spectator.
- 1:26:10Concern, I mean, or a media Ortega.
- 1:26:13It's not bad, but as a media person, the late announcement of
- 1:26:15said changes really messes with logistics.
- 1:26:17The fact that they announced the structure.
- 1:26:19I can plan better and set my calendar now.
- 1:26:22Nobody plans their calendar more than two months out.
- 1:26:25It's not real. No, that's that's.
- 1:26:27Stupid. And people will say, well that's
- 1:26:29because they always change everything.
- 1:26:30That's it's just not true. You just don't.
- 1:26:33It's more annoying than than like negative in my opinion, but
- 1:26:37I was giving an example of where I thought the changes were
- 1:26:40negative, and that's very anecdotal.
- 1:26:42This one got 34 replies. French fries and fitness went
- 1:26:46crazy in the comments because no other sport has this level of
- 1:26:50inconsistency year in and year out for the qualification
- 1:26:54process. If we want to professionalize
- 1:26:57the sport, then we need to standardize the process. 56
- 1:27:02likes. I told I, I already told you
- 1:27:05we're not a professional sport. We're something totally
- 1:27:08different. That's why we and if you want
- 1:27:10to. Say if we want to.
- 1:27:12Yeah, I don't think we want to. That was the thing I brought
- 1:27:16that up there in the Chris Beasterfield podcast.
- 1:27:18Like, oh, we want to, you know, we want to get these athletes
- 1:27:22paid. I don't know that anybody's
- 1:27:25asked, like if that's important. Like, yeah, it's cool if you
- 1:27:29make money, but like making you a professional athlete only, I
- 1:27:33don't know, like a professional CrossFit athlete only.
- 1:27:36I don't know that it's more important to have more than like
- 1:27:395 or six of those people every year.
- 1:27:43No one ever talks about that, about like, do we actually want
- 1:27:49that? Is that important for the
- 1:27:53fitness? To professionalize the sport.
- 1:27:55Yeah. Can you define professionalize
- 1:28:00the sport? It would be that you are a full
- 1:28:02time athlete all year. You make a comfortable living
- 1:28:05for a What do you mean what's your.
- 1:28:09Definition of. A a full time athlete.
- 1:28:12A full time athlete is that you just train and you go to events
- 1:28:17and I don't know what the dollar amount is like that.
- 1:28:19This is where you get him to that bullshit.
- 1:28:21It's like, you know, a, a WFP contract is $30,000 a year and
- 1:28:26they want to act like they're professionalizing the sport.
- 1:28:28And to Pat's comment earlier, 33% is the tax on winnings for
- 1:28:33events and stuff like award winnings.
- 1:28:36It's a huge tax rate. So they're not going home with
- 1:28:39anything close to $30,000 by the end of the year.
- 1:28:42That's not that's, that's less professional than what we have
- 1:28:45now. I'd rather put my, I'd rather
- 1:28:48toss the dice on the games and go to the WFP because there
- 1:28:51might be the chance that I'll make more as opposed to making a
- 1:28:54measly living there and not getting the viewers.
- 1:28:58But anyway, yeah, I think like, I don't know, John said it at
- 1:29:0275K, if you want 100K that you're.
- 1:29:06Well, but what I'm saying is if you have 15 people that are
- 1:29:09professional, then you're not a professional sport.
- 1:29:12Right. And I just don't know that that
- 1:29:14is important for us as a fitness community to have.
- 1:29:18And like, 'cause like in that circumstance, I would say, I, I
- 1:29:22agree with that definition, but then like, let's pull it out
- 1:29:28bigger. So like where like IF75K is the
- 1:29:31number and then what, what now you are a pro athlete.
- 1:29:36I think you need like 100 people that qualify for that before
- 1:29:41you're like, I made it. I'm a professional Crossfitter.
- 1:29:45Does that make sense? And, and I don't think we're
- 1:29:49close to that. I, I, I agree with you that I
- 1:29:52don't think we're professional. I think we should stop trying to
- 1:29:54be professional when we're not big enough to be professional.
- 1:29:58Here's the thing, too. It's like, OK, all the athletes
- 1:30:01make money essentially off their contract from whatever sports
- 1:30:04organization they're with. Let's call it the Chicago Bears.
- 1:30:08Those come from TV deals, advertisement deals and all that
- 1:30:11stuff. That essentially is because a
- 1:30:14lot of people have a lot of eyes on you, right?
- 1:30:16And I would say the athletes who are making the most money have
- 1:30:19the most eyes on them. Look at Danny like she was crazy
- 1:30:22sponsored, right? But she's not like, it's not
- 1:30:26because she's a professional athlete.
- 1:30:28Like, yeah, she got a lot of attention because she was a
- 1:30:30professional, professional athlete.
- 1:30:32But it's all the other stuff that doesn't happen on the field
- 1:30:35of play because the general public is just never going to
- 1:30:40find CrossFit all that entertaining.
- 1:30:44So I, I I agree, Mr. Patrick, Patrick says, do we consider
- 1:30:49single a baseball players as pros?
- 1:30:50I think they're averageably pays around 30.
- 1:30:52No, they're minor league players.
- 1:30:54You're not a pro. That's why they said make the
- 1:30:57big leagues. You're not a pro until you make
- 1:31:01the big leagues. It's like I think when you're
- 1:31:06our. Big leagues is 30 athletes a
- 1:31:08year. Say that again.
- 1:31:12This is 3030 women a year. Say that again.
- 1:31:16Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:31:21Frustrated. All right, Go, go out.
- 1:31:25Go out and come back again and spin like you're Frozen.
- 1:31:27You're Frozen. More than Elsa, I think.
- 1:31:33I think we're in lockstep, Tyler.
- 1:31:35I, I, I don't think there's enough money to even try to be
- 1:31:41professional currently. And I hear, I think you're out
- 1:31:44of this. I think you're average athlete.
- 1:31:46You're average athlete at the Games, 15th place at the games.
- 1:31:49OK, If they make they should make more money in competitions
- 1:31:56than they do in sponsors to be considered professional because
- 1:32:01now the stars get more money sponsored, right?
- 1:32:03The stars get more money sponsored.
- 1:32:05But like your 10th place, 11th place guy, they make way more
- 1:32:10money on their salary the what they make in their actual sport.
- 1:32:15For Tyson, for a minute, he's just making pay off payroll.
- 1:32:20Even now, though, his contract is much more than any sponsor he
- 1:32:24could ever get. He just got a tailored suit
- 1:32:28company to sponsor him so. For how much, I don't know.
- 1:32:31Is it more than $18 million? Maybe.
- 1:32:34All right, you see, you see what I'm saying?
- 1:32:36Like I think you're average athlete and right now it's not
- 1:32:39the case. Like, I think of something like
- 1:32:40a Kyra Milligan. When Kyra Milligan makes more
- 1:32:43money in competitions than she does in sponsors, then we're on
- 1:32:49our way to professionalism. Right.
- 1:32:51If she does, yeah, yeah. But I don't think I think right
- 1:32:55now it's the opposite. No, that's what I'm saying.
- 1:32:57I think that type of a person should make more money in
- 1:33:01competitions to be considered professional.
- 1:33:03But Tiger Woods made more money in.
- 1:33:05Sponsors, not the stars, not the your average person that
- 1:33:10competes in elite competitions. And I just don't.
- 1:33:13I don't know. I don't see a world where that's
- 1:33:17ever going to be the case, where you have 100 athletes who who
- 1:33:20are making more off of competition deals.
- 1:33:23Than I definitely don't now. Now I even even if we go back to
- 1:33:272017 levels. No, no, I'm saying for the near
- 1:33:31future, I don't see that for any.
- 1:33:34Like it would have to grow so much more and so much more money
- 1:33:37would have to be put in for it to get to that.
- 1:33:39I don't see it from our sport. And maybe not.
- 1:33:42Ever. I don't want to say ever, but
- 1:33:46not not anytime. When you talk about John, like
- 1:33:49it needs to be consistent so that others outside can start to
- 1:33:53watch. I don't think that's ever going
- 1:33:56to happen. I don't either I I I get what
- 1:33:59y'all are saying. Gosh guys you have to listen to
- 1:34:02what I'm saying. Not the freaking stars, the
- 1:34:06average person that is playing in whatever sport.
- 1:34:10Tyson. The 7th man on an NBA roster.
- 1:34:14Yeah, Tyson Beijing, the first man off of the bench, yes.
- 1:34:17Or in basketball, I'm. Trying to think, I don't know
- 1:34:20what the sponsorships are in like the PGA Tour, but like the
- 1:34:2260 best, 60th best player on the PGA Tour, it's kind of there's
- 1:34:27like 125 that retain their pro cards.
- 1:34:30So in the 60s they're they're making I think like $1,000,000
- 1:34:35or more a year now at that level, like they're not getting
- 1:34:39$1,000,000 in sponsorships. They'll get free balls and.
- 1:34:42TaylorMade ain't giving them that.
- 1:34:44Yeah, who, who's a, who's a bottom level athlete who's like
- 1:34:48recurring for CrossFit? At the games.
- 1:34:52At the games like in current, don't use Danny.
- 1:34:55I wouldn't. I don't know if it's at the
- 1:34:56bottom, but like Afisa Gaffi or she's right in the middle,
- 1:35:01middle. But before that she was in the
- 1:35:0320s when she had made it a couple to couple times.
- 1:35:08Sydney, Michalishian. Yeah, Sydney like.
- 1:35:11Carolyn Prevo. Hattie Konyo.
- 1:35:15I just don't the the the value. So I think Sevon's take on this
- 1:35:23is really good. Like you're, you are given an
- 1:35:25opportunity with the all, all the eyes.
- 1:35:26Like we have very dedicated eyes in CrossFit, right?
- 1:35:30And so at that point, it's on you to create stories and media
- 1:35:35on your side so that people want to be involved with you.
- 1:35:37And, and Danny's one of those, Kelsey Keel is one of those
- 1:35:41where it's just like they they like those people and they want
- 1:35:43to follow those people. There is this compulsion that
- 1:35:48people have where it's like, I want to get paid to go these
- 1:35:50events, but it's like, no, like we don't have that kind of sport
- 1:35:53and we're just never going to have it.
- 1:35:55It's very niche and that's OK, But you're given an opportunity
- 1:35:58to make the most out of it, even if you're going to to just
- 1:36:02semifinals. I mean, Mason is like started
- 1:36:06down that road where it's like, or Tris is a good example of
- 1:36:10this, right where it's like you're you're invested for in
- 1:36:13them for the story now. And like you, you start watching
- 1:36:16their content, you see who they are, you like them, you start
- 1:36:18buying whatever shit they're selling or, you know,
- 1:36:21subscribing to their YouTube channel or whatever.
- 1:36:24Like that's where the opportunity is.
- 1:36:25It's not in the competition take.
- 1:36:28Yeah. I mean, I think there's there's
- 1:36:30room to grow quote UN quote the sport.
- 1:36:33I would say the competitive side of things because there's so
- 1:36:36many people that do CrossFit that don't care, but I, I really
- 1:36:44think that the you've got to figure out a way to make them
- 1:36:47interested in it. Yeah.
- 1:36:51And going back years, why did people get invested into it?
- 1:36:56Think about how many people took L ones and had Rich or Rich or
- 1:37:01Hobart or Miranda as, as their red shirt.
- 1:37:08I guarantee you have Miranda as your red shirt.
- 1:37:13You're probably rooting for Norcal back in whatever 20. 15
- 1:37:17You're probably doing street parking now.
- 1:37:22Like you, you rooted for, like you had a connection to it.
- 1:37:26There's so few connections points at this point that I
- 1:37:29don't. I just don't see that.
- 1:37:33And that can turn, I mean, like that's the thing that I focused
- 1:37:36on a lot is like, we built our heroes.
- 1:37:37We spent a lot of money building the heroes of CrossFit.
- 1:37:41We spent a shit load of money and resources on Rich, spent a
- 1:37:44shit load of resources and money on Dan Bailey.
- 1:37:46And like, they're entertaining characters, which is why we
- 1:37:49bought into them. But it's like Miranda, like her
- 1:37:52spot in the limelight wasn't like she didn't have nearly as
- 1:37:55much as as Rich did, but she made the most of it when she was
- 1:37:58in it, right? And that's your opportunity.
- 1:38:02People care deeply about this thing.
- 1:38:04There's just not going to be the number of people who care as
- 1:38:07deeply about this thing is there are going to the NFL, It's never
- 1:38:11going to happen, and that's OK. And I'm not saying either that I
- 1:38:16don't want these athletes to be paid.
- 1:38:17That's not what I'm saying. It's just like be realistic
- 1:38:19about the sport that we operate in.
- 1:38:22Yeah. No, I think that's 100% right.
- 1:38:24Like, you just can't assume that we're going to have millions of
- 1:38:28dollars sitting out there that people are going to go get when
- 1:38:33there aren't that many people watching.
- 1:38:35Right, which is the crazy thing when you consider WFP, because
- 1:38:39they honestly thought that they were going to conquer that and
- 1:38:42it's. Walk to it and watch and care
- 1:38:44about a season into the storylines that can be told.
- 1:38:48You very obviously don't understand market analysis well
- 1:38:52enough to understand that, like the entire value of CrossFit was
- 1:38:55from the media. And I think that WFP was like,
- 1:38:58oh, well, we'll duplicate the media.
- 1:39:00It's like, all right, it took, it took 10 years to to really
- 1:39:04build Rich up to where it, to what he became.
- 1:39:06And it was in a time where that was a different world and people
- 1:39:12don't have the attention spans to follow that stuff anymore,
- 1:39:15right? In a, in a large scale, like we
- 1:39:18have people that watch us, the people that watch Savon or any
- 1:39:21of the others, they're highly invested into the sport.
- 1:39:26But we don't have 50,000 people or more watching our shows.
- 1:39:30No, Ever. It's like we're happy if we get
- 1:39:33a couple 100. Right.
- 1:39:36And so I mean. We get more than that, but OK.
- 1:39:39Well, and, and that's the thing, like we've never complained
- 1:39:42about the money that we make from this or like we like this.
- 1:39:47Or the lack of the money. Right.
- 1:39:49Like we're happy to do this because we care deeply about the
- 1:39:52thing. And it's like everybody in
- 1:39:53CrossFit for the most, I mean, look at the judges like you want
- 1:39:57to talk about a professional sport, you're not going to
- 1:39:59become a professional sport if we don't pay the judges Like
- 1:40:02this is not going to happen. I like I like this comment right
- 1:40:05here and I agree with it. I wonder if you guys agree with
- 1:40:07it. This is CrossFit athletes never
- 1:40:09be a professional athletes. It's the same as Ninja Warrior.
- 1:40:11Those people are not professionals.
- 1:40:13They compete for a prize and I agree.
- 1:40:17I think they compete. I think we compete for a prize
- 1:40:23and there's a winner every single year and there are
- 1:40:25multiple prizes throughout the year.
- 1:40:27But it's it's it's similar to to Ninja Warrior.
- 1:40:32And I mean that it's got, it's as big as it's as big as it's
- 1:40:35ever going to be because it's on mainstream NBC and it's still a
- 1:40:39prize at the end of the day. Those guys aren't aren't
- 1:40:43millionaires. You know what I mean?
- 1:40:46Maybe they got paid better in Japan.
- 1:40:48I don't know. Back when it was Sasuke and
- 1:40:50Makoto Nagano won for like the first time in a really long
- 1:40:54time. Back when, back when Ninja
- 1:40:56Warrior was good for these people, for you people who have
- 1:40:59never seen the actual Ninja Warrior, it was much better than
- 1:41:04the American ninja. But then Levi Mewenberg had to
- 1:41:06go ruin it could be really good in Japan and then came to
- 1:41:10America and it was just, it was so much better in Japan.
- 1:41:14John who won the trial thingy? Rimco Evan Nepal won the Yeah,
- 1:41:19that. Was that was not my pick?
- 1:41:21I don't think. I don't remember.
- 1:41:24No, your pick was Tata, but gotcha.
- 1:41:26But hey, there's a road race world championship this Sunday
- 1:41:30and Tata is probably going to destroy some people, yeah.
- 1:41:34That's. Great rim job.
- 1:41:36Rim job don't stand a chance. Rim job.
- 1:41:42Yeah. So like Charles Deluxe, first of
- 1:41:44all, who is we that want to professionalize this?
- 1:41:47And why is professionalization the sport of the sport, a goal
- 1:41:55we as the community? And would you prefer it prefer
- 1:41:57it to be unprofessional, disjointed and unorganized?
- 1:42:05French fries and Fitness Charles Deluxe.
- 1:42:07So you get the cheese and the French fries, huh?
- 1:42:08That's. Right, they get into it.
- 1:42:13I, I guess my, my point is it keeps it interesting to some
- 1:42:19degree, like how is it going to change?
- 1:42:21What's what's the new rules going to be?
- 1:42:23How do we get to talk about it? How is it going to impact how
- 1:42:28things go throughout from from the elite side?
- 1:42:33I totally get what John is saying from a competitor side,
- 1:42:37Competitor side at the level of top ten, top 25% wanting to keep
- 1:42:44quarterfinals or keep 10% or keep 25%.
- 1:42:47That's where you can do it. But a lot of the people come in
- 1:42:54and like that they're thinking about it from a
- 1:42:57professionalization standpoint and they get pissed about like
- 1:43:01you hear, how many times have we heard Pat Brent?
- 1:43:06I mean, a bunch of athletes have just said they change it every
- 1:43:09year. Like we never get say anything
- 1:43:11that's the same. Like we got to figure it out.
- 1:43:13We got to change our season every time and our training and
- 1:43:16our schedule. We never know how we're going to
- 1:43:18qualify for the Games the next year and it's like.
- 1:43:24Well, I don't know why we didn't think about this, but I mean,
- 1:43:28college football was relatively stable for a long time, but it's
- 1:43:32going through a huge upheaval right now.
- 1:43:33You have conference re realignments, you have like the
- 1:43:36whole playoff system that's been introduced CNI and it's like
- 1:43:40it's not, it's not stable. And that's that's as a
- 1:43:42professional sport as you get, man.
- 1:43:44There's more money in college football than there is in almost
- 1:43:47anything. Taylor spin.
- 1:43:49Humans don't like change, period.
- 1:43:52Well, you. If you signed up for the wrong
- 1:43:55sport, it's about the unknown and the unknowable, yeah.
- 1:43:59That is true. A little off topic, but Vicki,
- 1:44:03one of our number one viewers over the weekend on the spin
- 1:44:06cast. Unrelated question, have any of
- 1:44:08you pulled the trigger on Community Care?
- 1:44:11I have to make a decision by next month and I'm curious on
- 1:44:14your thoughts. Open enrollment at least for us
- 1:44:18is next month. NN is open enrollment for us and
- 1:44:23we're going to make the switch then I.
- 1:44:25Think we're going to make the switch next month?
- 1:44:27Yep. So there you go.
- 1:44:29I would get in now. Not that the rates are going to
- 1:44:33go higher, but I think it would be you'll be wishing for a long
- 1:44:37time that you would have done it earlier.
- 1:44:40Yeah, I mean, I mean you look at what Kotler and his daughter is
- 1:44:44going through and like the insurance things like
- 1:44:48unfortunately right now it's too late because now she has the
- 1:44:51pre-existing condition. And even if they made the switch
- 1:44:55like she they had, like I think what Jen was saying when she was
- 1:44:58on our show or maybe a different one, it's like you have a
- 1:45:00timeline. Of two years 2.
- 1:45:02Years I think it is, but then even then it's a capped at at
- 1:45:04what the benefits can be. But when you say $500 per
- 1:45:10incident, like something like that comes through, it's going
- 1:45:15to be better than. That's Jeanette and I were kind
- 1:45:19of walking through it and it is actually like she has university
- 1:45:24insurance, which is like notoriously really good.
- 1:45:28I'm actually mad because my Indiana insurance was much
- 1:45:30better than state insurance. But it's it's like it's going to
- 1:45:37cost us a few $100 extra a year. But I'm like, in the case that
- 1:45:42nothing happened, which we have a kid now.
- 1:45:44So it's almost guaranteed that something's going to happen.
- 1:45:47I wouldn't say it's guaranteed. Well, stuff happens more
- 1:45:50frequently than with adults. And so I was like, in the event
- 1:45:56that something does happen, we're definitely going to save
- 1:45:59money. And then, you know, a couple of
- 1:46:02100 extra dollars a month to be part of something that I'm like
- 1:46:06way more invested in and like, like, I don't like the insurance
- 1:46:11companies. I would rather give my money to
- 1:46:13community care. I 100% agree on that.
- 1:46:18So no, I think that's something that we're going to be fully
- 1:46:21signing up for. I think, Vicki, I would go to
- 1:46:26CrossFit Medical Society and then check out the community
- 1:46:28care page. I think you can fill out a
- 1:46:32questionnaire on it or like fill out a form and then you can
- 1:46:35actually talk to somebody. I don't know if it's Jen or
- 1:46:37somebody else that is there, but you'll probably get a lot of
- 1:46:40your questions answered to to do that.
- 1:46:46I think they have a calculator they're rolling out as well, so
- 1:46:49it'd be a good time of the year. Renata, is the L1 still the
- 1:46:53requirement? Yes.
- 1:46:54I don't think they've rolled it out beyond that.
- 1:46:56So. Should have it anyway.
- 1:46:58Go. Get your L1.
- 1:47:01So yeah, crossfat, don't you love hedging on your own health?
- 1:47:05Yeah, hedge on that every time. I'm a gambling man, as you know.
- 1:47:12That's you just take your your nicotine pouches and hope you
- 1:47:15don't choke to death and you'll be fine.
- 1:47:19So anyway, well, there we go. Vicki has a call schedule on
- 1:47:22Tuesday. There you go.
- 1:47:25Answer all your questions, but I think it I think it is
- 1:47:27definitely worth considering for sure.
- 1:47:33So, John, you all right? Yeah.
- 1:47:37He got buzzed out with the community care talkies.
- 1:47:39Nah, I mean I was just letting y'all rock, man.
- 1:47:42There you go. All right.
- 1:47:43I don't have anything else, John.
- 1:47:46Any big PRS? Yeah, I just posted some on on
- 1:47:50JY Barbell. We had this guy Derek, his old
- 1:47:58bench press Max was 300 and he's at 3:15 for three right now,
- 1:48:03which is pretty cool. That's the last if he's the last
- 1:48:07one if you want, if you want to pull it up, not the pinned one,
- 1:48:09but the the. One next to it.
- 1:48:12Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then it goes through like
- 1:48:14this this month. Dude, he's got 350 in there.
- 1:48:20He's not even using his feet. His feet are just like sliding
- 1:48:22around. Andy's reaching at the top.
- 1:48:24Yeah, I don't think he's 350, but he's got and then like it
- 1:48:27it, we got a couple of them. So this girl, she had an
- 1:48:31osteotomy on her knee five months ago and then and then
- 1:48:40freaking is PR ING everything. Doesn't have the greatest front
- 1:48:44rack, but PR ING everything. And that 200 was a big deal.
- 1:48:50And then Alex is new to the program, but.
- 1:48:54Holy Cail for two. I think he's going to hit 250
- 1:48:57and his previous Max was 215 and then this is my girl that I'm
- 1:49:01going to take to the games one day.
- 1:49:02We got we got a couple years going, but like like in a couple
- 1:49:05years, but I'm going to take her to the game.
- 1:49:08She had 275 for three today. We're hoping for 300 when we Max
- 1:49:14and then she hurry up. She is Nah, man, we're not
- 1:49:19sponsored by them anymore. And then this is then this is
- 1:49:23Miss Jenny with all time, but she's 4443 or something like
- 1:49:29that. Strongest she's ever been.
- 1:49:31Mom of four kids and this girl had a baby nine months ago.
- 1:49:37Strongest she's ever been. But yeah, that was this month.
- 1:49:41Stay tuned for next month there's.
- 1:49:43Quite a bit of PRS there. Yeah, do we're rocking, we're
- 1:49:46rocking. If you ever if anybody wants to
- 1:49:48get strong, just hit me up, DM me on JY Barbell.
- 1:49:52Not not the other one, JY Barbell.
- 1:49:55But yeah, dude, everybody's killing it.
- 1:49:58I'm I'm really happy with everybody's.
- 1:50:00At least three. All the girls do.
- 1:50:07The guys, some of them do, they feel a little weird wearing it.
- 1:50:14It's like wearing somebody else's jersey.
- 1:50:16By now, while supplies last, that's.
- 1:50:18Right, Yeah, dude, I actually were sold out of the large and
- 1:50:20the black. So I mean and the small and the
- 1:50:24teal crop. But yeah, go check it out.
- 1:50:27It's. If you go to refill.
- 1:50:28If you go to JY Barbell on the Instagram.
- 1:50:30That inventory. You go to JY barbell on the
- 1:50:33Instagram, the link is in there on at the top it.
- 1:50:37Sure is time to restock, John. We do need to.
- 1:50:42Roll those profits into some more inventory.
- 1:50:43Ask I'm. Going to place another $300 or
- 1:50:46300 shirt. I was like, ask vindicate about
- 1:50:49your inventory first place, your God.
- 1:50:54The thing is, The thing is he was going to do it, but then he
- 1:50:57wasn't going to have them by the games.
- 1:50:59And I was like, I mean like I'll just do it and I'll and I didn't
- 1:51:03know what to, I didn't, I didn't know how many to get and.
- 1:51:07And minimum order is 600. But I got I got too many.
- 1:51:11You got to pay upfront, too. That's right, Tyler Heat one.
- 1:51:16You're ramping that up for Crash?
- 1:51:18Crash we're getting everything ready stay tuned guys so.
- 1:51:22Crash is going to be so fun man. Yeah, it's it's going to be a
- 1:51:27wild one this year. Crash of the East, I think is
- 1:51:29what we're calling. It dude, I'm excited.
- 1:51:31I'm excited to just our head to head.
- 1:51:35Dude, I'm I'm getting nervous. To like, I saw the traverse
- 1:51:38muscle ups and I'm like, dude, it's going to be so fun.
- 1:51:40We get to do stuff like that. I.
- 1:51:44You cannot back out of this. Time I'm not going to, I'm just
- 1:51:47nervous. I did a workout today and it
- 1:51:48shouldn't have been that hard that I'm wondering if like just
- 1:51:52sleeps getting to me or whatever.
- 1:51:53But it was it was 3 rounds. We got the same baby.
- 1:51:56It was this, I don't know. It was 3 rounds and essentially
- 1:52:011 to one rest and it was 15 Cal standing bike at 10:15.
- 1:52:08Bench press at 15510. Cleans with the 150 sandbag it.
- 1:52:12Sounds like I'll work out. I would love one.
- 1:52:15This is great. Keep talking dirty to.
- 1:52:18Me and then 15 bench press with the 1:55 and then the 15 Cal
- 1:52:22standing bike and I was dying. I was like what is happening?
- 1:52:27Not every workout's going to be. That it was.
- 1:52:29It was that. Like like.
- 1:52:31It was the 10 sandbag cleans that I was like I am getting
- 1:52:34slammed right now. I couldn't get my heart rate
- 1:52:36down. Like first set of bench press
- 1:52:39every round unbroken and then going to that second set of 15.
- 1:52:43On the sandbag. No.
- 1:52:46Well, that's your problem. I'm just wasting too much
- 1:52:48energy, not going unbroken. I.
- 1:52:50Mean time under tension. I hadn't picked up a sandbag in
- 1:52:53a while and so I was like, let me just kind.
- 1:52:56Of 10 reps with the 1:50. Yeah, 150.
- 1:52:58I mean, like, yeah, your heart rate will get up, but like,
- 1:53:01it'll come back down on that standing bike.
- 1:53:03Well, that's what I'm saying. So I got to the bench press
- 1:53:05having gone on, gone unbroken on the first set, and I'm doing
- 1:53:08like fives and I'm like, what's that damn problem?
- 1:53:14Well, I highly doubt that will be one of the crash work.
- 1:53:17Work like a workout like that will be the crash a crash
- 1:53:20workout. And if it is, it'll.
- 1:53:21Be worse, it'll. Just chalk it up to.
- 1:53:23Me I need to just start making it mandatory like doing old
- 1:53:25crash events to like just test the system.
- 1:53:30Yeah, I'm just, I'm just running.
- 1:53:33I'm just running. I just, I just need to be able
- 1:53:36to not walk for the whatever running event there is.
- 1:53:40And then and then I'll just, if I get beat by other things like,
- 1:53:44you know, go you, you know, I just, I just want to be
- 1:53:48respectful in the running event. And then and then the rest of
- 1:53:52it, I'm fine at like. If there's a breathing like
- 1:53:55gymnastics metcon in my training, I tend to do that one
- 1:53:59since I have limited time like so strengthened in that.
- 1:54:02So now I just need to like actually train and do do some
- 1:54:05stuff that's going to expose me. Yeah, let's get the £250 sandbag
- 1:54:12for a crash. Let's let's rock with that.
- 1:54:14That's. Not I mean you got you got to
- 1:54:15think what did Jr. program for Jason and Brooke 2.
- 1:54:21Years ago. I know, dude.
- 1:54:23I'm, I'm, I think we're going to have a ball.
- 1:54:25I think because it's going to be awkward stuff.
- 1:54:27Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
- 1:54:28And neither one of us have touched it before.
- 1:54:30I just think we're going to have a really good time.
- 1:54:33Yeah, it'll be fun. I think there'll be some stuff
- 1:54:35that we're just like, not stuck on, but like, damn it.
- 1:54:38Yeah, no, no, we might get stuck.
- 1:54:40Like there'll be a cap, you know what I mean?
- 1:54:42Oh, there's going to be some sort of heavy event that I'm
- 1:54:45just like and I'm done. And.
- 1:54:48Yeah. All right, guys, Thank you for
- 1:54:51joining. Go check out Sprague's
- 1:54:54Competition Mode Classic 2026. Go sign up the online qualifiers
- 1:55:01in November. The competition is in January
- 1:55:04out in Spokane Valley, WA. The crash of the West.
- 1:55:09Sounds like Hiller and Jr. are going to help weigh in on some
- 1:55:12of the programming there. So that'll be.
- 1:55:14Good move. Pretty interesting, So yeah.
- 1:55:17Go. We will be going.
- 1:55:19So. There you go.
- 1:55:21I'm announcing me and Bill. There you go.
- 1:55:24I will see back in. We'll see you guys next
- 1:55:27Wednesday. I apologize to absolutely
- 1:55:30nobody.