Latest / In Sport with James Gordon Podcast / Building Revenue in Semi-Pro Sport: How Club Shops Actually Make Money
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- 0:00SPEAKER_01: Well, the difference with this shirt was that we sold 70 of them within 24 hours.
- 0:04SPEAKER_01: Like I said, we'd not even sold seven shirts ever before.
- 0:08SPEAKER_01: But it was the fact that people could get their hands on them, they got them the next day.
- 0:13SPEAKER_01: And that opened my eyes to the fact that, well, if you've got it, people will buy it.
- 0:22SPEAKER_00: Welcome to In Sport, the podcast for marketers and decision makers in semi-pro sports.
- 0:27SPEAKER_00: This is a show about what actually works in boardrooms,
- 0:29SPEAKER_00: sponsor meetings, the media, and on match day.
- 0:32SPEAKER_00: Let's kick off.
- 0:37SPEAKER_00: Okay, James.
- 0:38SPEAKER_00: Good to have you here.
- 0:39SPEAKER_00: Quick rundown of your CV for people who haven't met you before.
- 0:43SPEAKER_00: You started by building and then successfully selling the world's biggest rugby league website.
- 0:48SPEAKER_00: You've been a business manager for the basketball side,
- 0:51SPEAKER_00: Manchester Giants,
- 0:52SPEAKER_00: founder of Britain's biggest ice hockey site,
- 0:55SPEAKER_00: media manager for the Northern Premier League,
- 0:56SPEAKER_00: a BBC commentator,
- 0:58SPEAKER_00: Premier League commentator,
- 1:00SPEAKER_00: Director of Media and Commercial at Warrington Town,
- 1:03SPEAKER_00: Director of your own digital agency,
- 1:05SPEAKER_00: JDG Sport, plus about 20 other things I haven't mentioned.
- 1:09SPEAKER_00: How on earth do you find the time?
- 1:12SPEAKER_01: Well, that is a question I am increasingly asking myself, Neil.
- 1:17SPEAKER_01: To be fair,
- 1:18SPEAKER_01: one of the lads who does a bit of work for us at the moment did call me
- 1:22SPEAKER_01: the busiest man he's ever met,
- 1:23SPEAKER_01: and I was a bit surprised at that, but it's just life,
- 1:27SPEAKER_00: I think.
- 1:28SPEAKER_00: Okay,
- 1:28SPEAKER_00: today we're going to talk about increasing revenue streams at grassroots sport,
- 1:33SPEAKER_00: particularly semi-pro level merchandise.
- 1:37SPEAKER_00: Talk to me first of all about the overall kind of different income streams you think
- 1:41SPEAKER_00: that a sports club has.
- 1:42SPEAKER_01: For me, there's four main ways that you can generate revenue.
- 1:46SPEAKER_01: Ticket sales is the obvious one.
- 1:47SPEAKER_01: Sponsorship is another.
- 1:48SPEAKER_01: Merchandise is a third.
- 1:50SPEAKER_01: And then you've got your secondary spend around a match day.
- 1:52SPEAKER_01: So, you know,
- 1:53SPEAKER_01: there's the odds and sods that you can sell on a match day,
- 1:55SPEAKER_01: whether it be food and drink, chuck-a-duck as we used to do it.
- 1:58SPEAKER_01: And
- 2:02SPEAKER_01: that
- 2:08SPEAKER_00: level,
- 2:10SPEAKER_00: how do you go about building and maintaining a consistent revenue from merchandise?
- 2:19SPEAKER_00: You've obviously had first-hand experience of this at Warrington Town.
- 2:21SPEAKER_00: What's the journey broadly that you guys went on?
- 2:24SPEAKER_01: Your big challenge is the logistics.
- 2:26SPEAKER_01: At the lower levels, Getting started is the hardest part.
- 2:30SPEAKER_01: Cash flow is a massive
- 2:30SPEAKER_01: issue for not just the sports clubs but businesses in general.
- 2:34SPEAKER_01: And ultimately,
- 2:35SPEAKER_01: when you've only got a few hundred fans,
- 2:36SPEAKER_01: it's hard to identify what a business model should be around that.
- 2:40SPEAKER_01: From a Warrington Town point of view, probably going back 10 And so that was one of the.
- 2:58SPEAKER_01: In the early days, I think that was one of the motivations.
- 3:00SPEAKER_01: It was like, it wasn't a case of we're selling merchandise to make money.
- 3:04SPEAKER_01: We were selling merchandise to A, as you said, fulfill the needs of the fans that were there.
- 3:09SPEAKER_01: But B, it was about selling,
- 3:11SPEAKER_01: getting more items out there that had the one So if you sold a hat,
- 3:15SPEAKER_01: you sold a shirt, it'd be
- 3:16SPEAKER_00: someone, someone would be out
- 3:17SPEAKER_01: there.
- 3:18SPEAKER_01: What that meant was there wasn't ever really a,
- 3:20SPEAKER_01: there wasn't necessarily a massive commercial thought process behind it.
- 3:25SPEAKER_01: It was a case of,
- 3:25SPEAKER_01: well, if we can get a shirt made for 35 quid, well, we'll sell the shirt 35 quid.
- 3:29SPEAKER_01: You know, also thinking about the demographics and stuff for your fan base as well.
- 3:33SPEAKER_01: You didn't want to be ripping them off.
- 3:35SPEAKER_01: So that was the,
- 3:36SPEAKER_01: that was the first
- 3:37SPEAKER_00: part of the journey really in terms
- 3:39SPEAKER_00: of it was getting stuff out there.
- 3:41SPEAKER_00: So it was brand over profitability in the early stages.
- 3:45SPEAKER_01: Yeah, definitely.
- 3:46SPEAKER_01: And like I say, and it sounds simple, but it is simple.
- 3:49SPEAKER_01: We talk about revenue streams now.
- 3:52SPEAKER_01: Or the opportunity,
- 3:52SPEAKER_01: but we knew at that point that it wasn't,
- 3:54SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 3:54SPEAKER_01: if we just sold 10 hats for 10 of each, you're making a couple of quid on each.
- 3:59SPEAKER_01: Well, that wasn't moving, that wasn't going to move the needle.
- 4:01SPEAKER_01: But what does move the needle is if you sell a hat to someone and someone asks
- 4:06SPEAKER_01: the question, what's wearing in town?
- 4:07SPEAKER_01: And all of a sudden that person comes to a game,
- 4:09SPEAKER_01: they only have to buy one ticket to a match and we've made enough money compared
- 4:13SPEAKER_01: to selling five of them hats, you know, and that's just one match.
- 4:15SPEAKER_01: But if they come to one match, are they going to just come to one match?
- 4:19SPEAKER_01: You know,
- 4:19SPEAKER_01: once they come to a match,
- 4:20SPEAKER_01: that's their gateway to come into an endless number of matches.
- 4:23SPEAKER_00: So what comes after that initial stage?
- 4:26SPEAKER_00: Are there issues around, I don't know, lead times and supply?
- 4:30SPEAKER_00: What comes next?
- 4:31SPEAKER_01: The issues are cash flow, lead times.
- 4:34SPEAKER_01: She then started to get a better range of items in the shop through local suppliers,
- 4:39SPEAKER_01: you know, suppliers that could turn things around a little bit.
- 4:49SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 5:04SPEAKER_01: And the first round because we needed kits with numbers
- 5:07SPEAKER_01: and they were having embroidery on and they couldn't do it.
- 5:09SPEAKER_01: So we ended up with a local supplier supplying those kits.
- 5:11SPEAKER_01: And then that relationship sort of grew a little bit where he was
- 5:15SPEAKER_01: then supplying coats and other bits and boasts.
- 5:18SPEAKER_01: But the difference was that You could come into the shop and be like,
- 5:20SPEAKER_01: oh, I want one of them coats.
- 5:21SPEAKER_01: And you get it within a couple of weeks.
- 5:23SPEAKER_01: Whereas previously it might have been,
- 5:25SPEAKER_01: if you wanted a shirt, oh yeah, it's going to be six weeks.
- 5:27SPEAKER_01: I think the thing that swung it for me was in 2019,
- 5:30SPEAKER_01: we did the 70th anniversary shirt, which was produced by Macro.
- 5:35SPEAKER_01: And we had 70 of them made.
- 5:36SPEAKER_01: They were all numbered at the bottom.
- 5:38SPEAKER_01: You know, limited edition.
- 5:39SPEAKER_01: And we sold all them shirts within 24 hours.
- 5:42SPEAKER_01: Now we'd never sold anywhere close to 70 replica shirts because the process was that
- 5:47SPEAKER_01: if you wanted a replica shirt, you have to go in.
- 5:49SPEAKER_01: What size do you want?
- 5:50SPEAKER_01: Oh, well, put the order in, might be six weeks, you know.
- 5:53SPEAKER_01: It was never conducive to sales
- 5:54SPEAKER_00: doing that.
- 5:56SPEAKER_01: Yeah, of course, you'd get diehards who would buy it, who don't mind waiting.
- 5:59SPEAKER_01: But the difference with this shirt was that we sold 70 of them within 24 hours.
- 6:04SPEAKER_01: Like I said, we'd not even sold 70 shirts ever before.
- 6:08SPEAKER_01: But it was the fact that people could get their hands on them, they got them the next day.
- 6:12SPEAKER_01: And that opened my eyes to the fact that, well, if you've got it, people will buy it.
- 6:17SPEAKER_00: It's the classic chicken and egg.
- 6:20SPEAKER_00: But how as a club do you know when to pull the trigger to say,
- 6:25SPEAKER_00: Actually,
- 6:25SPEAKER_00: we need to invest in some stock and that in itself,
- 6:28SPEAKER_00: having stock immediately available will generate more sales.
- 6:32SPEAKER_01: The thing with that 70th anniversary show was I think that's what made me realise
- 6:37SPEAKER_01: that we could, like you say, take the risk a little bit with getting some stock.
- 6:42SPEAKER_01: But then if you were coming to a game and you went in the shop and you had 30 quid
- 6:46SPEAKER_01: in your pocket and you wanted something, you could buy it.
- 6:48SPEAKER_01: Whereas previously it was like, oh, I want one of them hoodies.
- 6:51SPEAKER_01: It'd be like, oh, well, take your name and your number.
- 6:53SPEAKER_01: We'll put it, we'll order it.
- 6:54SPEAKER_01: It'll be here in two, three, four weeks.
- 6:56[music]
- 7:07SPEAKER_00: Talk to me about the shop and the importance, I guess, of presentation.
- 7:10SPEAKER_00: What are some of the simple things that you can do if you're in those early stages
- 7:14SPEAKER_00: of developing a club shop?
- 7:17SPEAKER_01: Obviously, the other thing, like you say, to having stock in there was how we presented it.
- 7:22SPEAKER_01: So even having the rack,
- 7:23SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 7:23SPEAKER_01: the professional-looking racking and railing on the walls helped just to take it
- 7:27SPEAKER_01: from just being an empty room with a few bits of clothes in
- 7:30SPEAKER_01: to looking something like,
- 7:32SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 7:32SPEAKER_01: it's not perfect, but to looking something like what a shop should look like.
- 7:36SPEAKER_01: This wasn't necessarily stuff that we did at the time.
- 7:39SPEAKER_01: We do have signs up saying how much things are,
- 7:42SPEAKER_01: but you wouldn't believe,
- 7:43SPEAKER_01: I've learned this in the last year in the main shop that we've got now,
- 7:46SPEAKER_01: having the price tag on the,
- 7:47SPEAKER_01: it sounds stupid because you think, well,
- 7:49SPEAKER_01: surely you know you have the price tag on,
- 7:51SPEAKER_01: but you know,
- 7:51SPEAKER_01: you get delivered a hundred shirts,
- 7:53SPEAKER_01: they've all got the swing tags on, but they don't have the price on.
- 7:56SPEAKER_01: People will say,
- 7:57SPEAKER_01: I can't believe James is saying one of the tips is to put prices on the tag,
- 8:00SPEAKER_01: but you get people who ask how much it is, but there'll be people...
- 8:04SPEAKER_01: There'll be the sorts of people who won't ask.
- 8:06SPEAKER_01: And if they come in and they're looking on a thing and they can't see the price,
- 8:09SPEAKER_01: they don't want to ask what the price is, so then they don't buy.
- 8:12SPEAKER_01: Whereas if it's on the tag and they're like,
- 8:14SPEAKER_01: yeah, it's 25 quid, whatever,
- 8:16SPEAKER_00: they then bring it to the till.
- 8:18SPEAKER_00: Have you discovered any pitfalls?
- 8:20SPEAKER_00: Are there areas where you can inadvertently lose money as you've grown?
- 8:23SPEAKER_01: The big challenge is stopping stuff that still doesn't sell.
- 8:27SPEAKER_01: So we have got a little bit of that at the moment where we, well, there's two areas.
- 8:32SPEAKER_01: I think last year we had to order a minimum number of shirts and the size,
- 8:37SPEAKER_01: we'd changed suppliers and the sizing was slightly different.
- 8:41SPEAKER_01: So whereas we'd ordered a lot of larges and XLs,
- 8:45SPEAKER_00: all of a sudden then people were wearing mediums and larges.
- 8:48SPEAKER_01: So we ended up with a lot of stock that we're still working through.
- 8:54SPEAKER_01: We had that last year, which we're still sort of getting out the back of.
- 8:57SPEAKER_01: We've had some new merch this year that perhaps hasn't sold as well
- 9:00SPEAKER_01: as we probably thought it might.
- 9:03SPEAKER_01: And that's where the cash flow thing comes in.
- 9:04SPEAKER_01: You know, when I'm set in the summer thinking, let's put a new merchandise range together.
- 9:09SPEAKER_01: It's a lot easier to make that decision because we've got the cash flow because
- 9:13SPEAKER_01: the shop's going.
- 9:14SPEAKER_00: Is there a trigger point where you feel like you would advise a club
- 9:18SPEAKER_00: that they can make that first investment into stock to start this snowball rolling?
- 9:23SPEAKER_01: The thing that triggered us was that one-off item.
- 9:27SPEAKER_01: Obviously,
- 9:27SPEAKER_01: the problem you've got with clothing is it's not just making a decision on
- 9:31SPEAKER_01: whether you want to buy 100 shirts.
- 9:33SPEAKER_01: It's making sure you buy enough for the right sizes.
- 9:41SPEAKER_01: If a club's thinking about it, then maybe the way to do it is to set up a one-off item.
- 9:48SPEAKER_01: Stop that, see how that sells.
- 9:50SPEAKER_01: If it does sell, Then you've got that interest there.
- 9:54SPEAKER_00: Online.
- 9:56SPEAKER_00: I know you said at the start that to begin with,
- 9:58SPEAKER_00: the only place people could buy your gear was in the club shop on match day in
- 10:02SPEAKER_00: the ground.
- 10:03SPEAKER_00: When did online become an option for you guys?
- 10:07SPEAKER_01: I mean, fulfillment is the key one because ultimately you've got the same problems
- 10:11SPEAKER_01: as you have with a physical store, except it could happen at any time.
- 10:15SPEAKER_01: So, you know,
- 10:16SPEAKER_01: at least if you're stocking 10 t-shirts,
- 10:18SPEAKER_01: say you've got 10 t-shirts in stock,
- 10:19SPEAKER_01: you know, they're only going to be bought on a whole match day.
- 10:22SPEAKER_01: Whereas all of a sudden,
- 10:23SPEAKER_01: if you go online,
- 10:24SPEAKER_01: someone could buy it on a Sunday night and it's like, right,
- 10:26SPEAKER_01: who's going to go to the ground and get it out of the shop,
- 10:29SPEAKER_01: package it up, get it posted.
- 10:30SPEAKER_01: I
- 10:35SPEAKER_00: guess that's more pressure given most people's online shopping expectations these
- 10:39SPEAKER_00: days that orders will get dispatched in 24 hours.
- 10:45SPEAKER_01: And it's a bit like that with Dionne online now.
- 11:13SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
- 11:13SPEAKER_01: you can have a little bit of a pre-order window and that's sort of a way around it
- 11:17SPEAKER_01: to a point.
- 11:18SPEAKER_01: Going back to the online journey,
- 11:20SPEAKER_01: I think initially we did it with the local suppliers so the orders went direct
- 11:23SPEAKER_01: to them.
- 11:24SPEAKER_01: I've tried, at different clubs I've worked at, we've tried a few different things.
- 11:28SPEAKER_01: So that was one method where we'd have some products online,
- 11:31SPEAKER_01: the orders would go direct to the supplier and they would fulfil them.
- 11:35SPEAKER_01: Clearly that's good from a logistics point of view because they do everything.
- 11:39SPEAKER_01: But where that becomes an issue is clearly you don't make anywhere near as much money.
- 11:44SPEAKER_00: You need a partner that's invested in you as a club.
- 11:47SPEAKER_00: It certainly cares about the delivery and they realize they're part of that fan experience.
- 11:52SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 11:52SPEAKER_01: There's a couple of companies that sprung up and I think the terrorists do it now
- 11:55SPEAKER_01: where,
- 11:56SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 11:56SPEAKER_01: you can register your club and you get your own little mini store and,
- 11:59SPEAKER_01: you Clearly they're geared up for that sort of customer,
- 12:03SPEAKER_01: which was a bit different maybe to where we were.
- 12:07SPEAKER_01: So when online really kicked on was when we started stocking stuff ourselves,
- 12:12SPEAKER_01: because then all of a sudden it was, well, yeah,
- 12:14SPEAKER_01: we had those challenges that I mentioned in terms of,
- 12:16SPEAKER_01: well, you have to get someone to post it, whatever.
- 12:19SPEAKER_01: But that was when we could put a better range on and know we could sell it
- 12:24SPEAKER_01: and get it to the customer.
- 12:26SPEAKER_01: We weren't selling what we didn't have.
- 12:28SPEAKER_01: And I could physically put my hand on anything we were selling rather than relying
- 12:31SPEAKER_01: on other people.
- 12:32SPEAKER_00: Logistics and planning,
- 12:34SPEAKER_00: are there any times beyond the start of the season and Christmas
- 12:38SPEAKER_00: where you guys are aware that there could be a sudden surge in demand?
- 12:42SPEAKER_01: Not that we've experienced as such.
- 12:45SPEAKER_01: I think what people don't realise is how much ahead of it you are in terms of,
- 12:49SPEAKER_01: or you have to be.
- 12:51SPEAKER_01: Like we launched a kit.
- 12:52SPEAKER_01: So like the last couple of seasons,
- 12:53SPEAKER_01: we've done like a kit launch event in the town centre,
- 12:56SPEAKER_01: which is good to get fans together out of season because,
- 12:59SPEAKER_01: you know, The season shuts down for three, four months, whatever.
- 13:02SPEAKER_01: It's good to get fans together.
- 13:03SPEAKER_01: It's good to raise awareness of the club in the town centre.
- 13:06SPEAKER_01: But of course, it's a good opportunity to sell a shirt.
- 13:09SPEAKER_01: But ultimately,
- 13:10SPEAKER_01: for us to be able to do that in the start of July,
- 13:12SPEAKER_01: we've got to get the kits there in time.
- 13:14SPEAKER_01: So if you're saying if the kits take six weeks to be delivered,
- 13:18SPEAKER_01: well, you've got to work six weeks back from that.
- 13:20SPEAKER_01: Then we've got to go through the design process of the kit.
- 13:22SPEAKER_01: Then you've got to go through the getting the sponsors for the kit.
- 13:25SPEAKER_01: We had to get it signed off so that we could be sure that it was going to be there for the...
- 13:31SPEAKER_00: And just finally,
- 13:33SPEAKER_00: a couple of bits of advice,
- 13:35SPEAKER_00: top tips or anything like that for clubs that maybe have
- 13:39SPEAKER_00: a rudimentary merchandise offering at the moment,
- 13:41SPEAKER_00: but they are looking to take those next steps.
- 13:45SPEAKER_01: You've got to learn from your data, I think.
- 13:48SPEAKER_01: It's alright me saying, right, if you get stock, you're going to start selling.
- 13:51SPEAKER_01: We've gone from having the container with a few items into having a proper shop at
- 13:56SPEAKER_01: the ground to now having our independent club shop retail operating Monday
- 14:00SPEAKER_01: to Friday every week.
- 14:02SPEAKER_01: It'd be easy for me to say if you have the stock people who buy it,
- 14:04SPEAKER_01: but of course you need to have the fan base to be able to buy it.
- 14:06SPEAKER_01: We obviously know...
- 14:08SPEAKER_01: A bit about our fans more so now than we did 10 or 15 years ago.
- 14:12SPEAKER_01: So like, you know, people who buy tickets, we ask them what shirt size they are.
- 14:16SPEAKER_01: So I think we've got something like 7,000 ticket buyers on our database.
- 14:21SPEAKER_01: The majority of them have told us what shirt size they wear.
- 14:24SPEAKER_01: So when I'm pulling off data,
- 14:27SPEAKER_01: I can tell you what percentage of our match going fans are going to wear a large,
- 14:32SPEAKER_01: which helps inform me, me buy something.
- 14:34SPEAKER_01: But yeah, so I think you've got to test the water, not be scared.
- 14:39SPEAKER_01: Because I see clubs do things all the time that I think if they just thought
- 14:43SPEAKER_01: about it a little bit more.
- 14:44SPEAKER_01: Like there was one club before Christmas and I seen they posted a picture
- 14:49SPEAKER_01: of someone wearing a Christmas jumper.
- 14:51SPEAKER_01: And there was loads of fans commenting on it saying, where can I buy that, where can I buy it?
- 14:54SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's not for sale.
- 14:55SPEAKER_01: And it's like little things like that.
- 14:57SPEAKER_01: That would have cost a few hundred quid for that club to get
- 15:00SPEAKER_01: that Christmas jumper produced X number of times.
- 15:03SPEAKER_01: If you want to try and build cash flow,
- 15:04SPEAKER_01: get in on some of them items where you can buy a load of them and know
- 15:08SPEAKER_01: that they're going to sell.
- 15:09SPEAKER_01: Build up your cash flow that way.
- 15:10SPEAKER_01: So if you buy 500 quid worth of hats and all of a sudden you've got £1,000,
- 15:14SPEAKER_01: well then you can spend £1,000 on the clothing.
- 15:17SPEAKER_01: That's the way I would approach it.
- 15:19[music]
- 15:31SPEAKER_00: Okay, James Gordon now talking all things club shops.
- 15:35SPEAKER_00: A fascinating insight into retail in the grassroots semi-pro level.
- 15:40SPEAKER_00: Surprise now for our main man,
- 15:42SPEAKER_00: James Gordon, in honour of your namesake James Corden here at the Smithy Six.
- 15:49SPEAKER_00: Every week we are going to test your sporting knowledge.
- 15:53SPEAKER_00: You have no idea what's coming.
- 15:54SPEAKER_00: We're going to start with an easy one.
- 15:56SPEAKER_00: We're going to start with football.
- 15:59SPEAKER_00: Thierry Henry,
- 16:00SPEAKER_00: Robin Van Persie and Cristiano Ronaldo have all scored 30 plus goals in
- 16:06SPEAKER_00: the Premier League in one season playing for either Man United or Arsenal.
- 16:10SPEAKER_00: Seven other players have scored 30 plus Premier League goals in one season playing
- 16:15SPEAKER_00: for clubs other than Man United or Arsenal.
- 16:20SPEAKER_00: In the history of the Premier League,
- 16:22SPEAKER_00: seven players have scored more than 30 goals playing for teams other than Man United
- 16:29SPEAKER_00: or Arsenal.
- 16:30SPEAKER_00: You have got one minute starting from now.
- 16:37SPEAKER_00: Shearer.
- 16:38SPEAKER_01: Correct.
- 16:39SPEAKER_01: Salah.
- 16:40SPEAKER_01: Mo Salah.
- 16:41SPEAKER_01: Correct.
- 16:41SPEAKER_01: Harland must be one.
- 16:43SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 16:45SPEAKER_01: See, I was going to say Andy Cole,
- 16:47SPEAKER_01: but you said that we can't be Man United, but did he do it at Newcastle?
- 16:50SPEAKER_01: He did.
- 16:51SPEAKER_00: Right, there you go.
- 16:52SPEAKER_00: There's four.
- 16:53SPEAKER_00: You're nearly there already.
- 16:54SPEAKER_00: How many do I need?
- 16:55SPEAKER_01: Six.
- 16:55SPEAKER_01: It's a smithy six.
- 16:57SPEAKER_01: So there's six missing.
- 16:58SPEAKER_01: There's three missing.
- 17:00SPEAKER_01: There's seven in total.
- 17:01SPEAKER_01: But they can't play for United or Arsenal.
- 17:03SPEAKER_01: Well, they didn't do it for United or Arsenal.
- 17:07SPEAKER_01: Did Kevin Phillips do it one year?
- 17:09SPEAKER_01: Oh, what a hell that is, yes.
- 17:12SPEAKER_01: Is he the hardest one?
- 17:15SPEAKER_00: There's one other that I would have overlooked.
- 17:18SPEAKER_00: Is that James Beatty?
- 17:20SPEAKER_00: No.
- 17:21SPEAKER_00: You've got five and you've got about 15 seconds.
- 17:27SPEAKER_01: Teddy Schillingham in the early days, no?
- 17:29SPEAKER_00: No.
- 17:31SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
- 17:32SPEAKER_00: Okay, I'm sorry.
- 17:33SPEAKER_00: You have failed the Smithy Six in week one.
- 17:36SPEAKER_00: So the seven players outside Man United
- 17:39SPEAKER_00: and Arsenal have scored 30 plus Premier League goals in one season.
- 17:42SPEAKER_00: Alan Shearer.
- 17:43SPEAKER_00: Did it back-to-back for Blackburn in three successive years, 93-94, 94-94.
- 17:47SPEAKER_00: What, 30 in a season?
- 17:48SPEAKER_00: 95-96.
- 17:48SPEAKER_00: Just in the Premier League?
- 17:50SPEAKER_01: Just in the Premier League.
- 17:52SPEAKER_00: I mean, a couple of them seasons they had the extra games, but still 30-42 is good.
- 17:57SPEAKER_00: Andy Cole, Newcastle, 93-94.
- 18:00SPEAKER_00: Kevin Phillips, Sunderland, 99-2000.
- 18:03SPEAKER_00: Here's the one that I would have got.
- 18:05SPEAKER_00: Luis Suarez, 13-14.
- 18:06SPEAKER_00: Oh, Suarez, yeah.
- 18:08SPEAKER_00: Harry Kane, 17-18 and 22-23.
- 18:13SPEAKER_00: Mo Salah and Erling Howland.
- 18:15SPEAKER_00: Harry Kane is a bad one to miss.
- 18:18SPEAKER_00: Five out of the 56.
- 18:21SPEAKER_00: Better look next time.
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- 18:33SPEAKER_00: Okay, that wraps up the first episode of the New Look In Sport podcast.
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- 18:45SPEAKER_00: Of course, the star is James Gordon.
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- 18:51SPEAKER_00: But for now, I'm afraid they think it's all over, and it is.
- 18:54SPEAKER_00: Goodbye.
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