Latest / Float: The Anxiety Podcast with Dr John Eaton PhD / How To Stop A Panic Attack
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- 0:00The first time you have a panic hotel It can seem to come completely out of
- 0:04nowhere You might be walking around a supermarket,
- 0:08Sitting in a meeting Or going into a lift And then suddenly your heart starts
- 0:14slamming your breathing drops,
- 0:17The room seems to tilt slightly You may feel dizzy or shaky Or strangely detached,
- 0:24And then a verdict arrives with complete
- 0:27conviction Something terrible is happening I need to get out of here,
- 0:32And after you've had a few of them You may notice a pattern Same place,
- 0:37same situation Same kind of event And then the panic becomes predictable But
- 0:43it doesn't stop And what you really want to know is What makes it stop?
- 0:50That's what I'm going to talk about today And the answer may seem slightly strange,
- 0:56Panic attacks stop When you stop trying to make them stop.
- 1:11Welcome back to FLOAT, I'm Dr. John Eaton. Now, here's the first thing to understand about panic.
- 1:19It's entirely automated. You don't decide to have a panic attack.
- 1:24Your brain's threat system is creating
- 1:26one as it's predicting something happening now could be dangerous.
- 1:31That something could be entirely negligible, like feeling uncomfortable in a lift, for example.
- 1:38And yet, adrenaline is released, your heart rate increases, your breathing drops,
- 1:43your muscles tense, your body prepares itself.
- 1:48You may feel sick or lightheaded or shaky, and on top of all those physical
- 1:53sensations, the storyteller in your brain starts giving you some predictions.
- 1:59You're losing control. You're going to collapse.
- 2:02You could die from this. That's why panic can feel like the most dangerous thing in the world.
- 2:09And yet, a panic attack by itself isn't dangerous.
- 2:13It's extremely unpleasant and disturbing,
- 2:17But the sensations themselves are simply the result of your body's alarm system
- 2:23doing what it was designed to do, except the alarm as pain turned out far too high,
- 2:30rather like an over-sensitive smoke alarm in your kitchen.
- 2:34It isn't broken, it's doing exactly what it's supposed to be doing,
- 2:39but it's simply misinterpreting burnt toast as a house fire.
- 2:44There's something else that's also important to understand. Panic attacks don't
- 2:49just keep going indefinitely.
- 2:52They rise, they reach a peak, and then the body's arousal mechanism gradually begin to fall away.
- 3:00Your body can't remain at maximum sympathetic arousal for too long.
- 3:05The one thing, it doesn't have enough adrenaline.
- 3:08So there's already a natural closure built into the whole experience.
- 3:14The problem is that we often make the attack last longer by trying desperately
- 3:19to make it go away, which is where the loop comes in.
- 3:24I describe this loop in float as an interaction between three systems.
- 3:30First there's the threat detector, something small happened,
- 3:34perhaps a passing sensation in your body, the door closing, entering a supermarket,
- 3:41and a match comes up of something your brain has learned to identify with danger in the past.
- 3:48So the alarm fires.
- 3:50When it fires, the analyst gets to work. It starts trying to explain why the alarm has gone off.
- 3:57But when you're firing, the analyst isn't particularly good at giving you a
- 4:01calm and balanced explanation. It will always give you the worst.
- 4:06What if you're having a heart attack? What if something else is seriously wrong?
- 4:11Maybe you should go to the hospital.
- 4:14And then comes the storyteller it takes all these feelings and sensations and
- 4:19reactions and thoughts turns them into a story about you and the immediate future,
- 4:26you can't cope you're losing control this is going to get worse,
- 4:31and then you react to that story and you become more upset and when you react
- 4:37that way that signal goes straight back to the threat detector and it presses the alarm again.
- 4:44The analyst notices the alarm going off again and uses it as evidence for the
- 4:49claim that something really must be wrong.
- 4:51And then the storyteller produces even more frightening predictions.
- 4:56And round it goes. Alarms, thoughts, stories, reactions, more alarms, that's the loop.
- 5:05Nothing has become more dangerous than going simply locked into a feedback system
- 5:10that won't close. So here we have to ask ourselves what keeps the loop going
- 5:16beyond its natural phase.
- 5:18Well, there are four things that are going on that we should be sensible about.
- 5:23The first one is that we begin to get anxious or panicky about the panic itself.
- 5:30We get sensitized to it and then we start becoming vigilant for any signs that it's coming back.
- 5:37The second one is that when it does happen, we resist it.
- 5:42We don't want it to be there and we think, Oh, what's reacting?
- 5:46What's happening? Why is this going on again?
- 5:50And when that happens, we force ourselves to calm down. We try and hold our breath.
- 5:55We grip the steering wheel. We tense up. We might tell ourselves, Stop, stop, stop.
- 6:04And that's the resistance. and when that resistance goes out that sends yet
- 6:08another message to the brain this really is an emergency,
- 6:13it's a bit like a runaway horse if you try to wrestle a runaway horse you're
- 6:18likely to make things worse and you're likely to get injured too because that
- 6:22horse has a lot of energy so what we do is we let it run,
- 6:27and we let it run around and gradually it's going to run out of adrenaline it's
- 6:31going to slow down and it's going to come to a stop That's the principle we're using with panic.
- 6:38Now, the next thing we might try to do around panic is something called avoidance.
- 6:43And this is possibly the most costly one over time.
- 6:47We leave the supermarket, we pull off the motorway, we get up,
- 6:50we lift, we leave the meeting, in the hope of doing that makes things better.
- 6:55And as it happens, we do feel better when we do that.
- 6:59But a problem is now created, because your brain's learning something you really don't want it to learn.
- 7:06He concludes the supermarket was dangerous. The lift was dangerous.
- 7:11The meeting was dangerous.
- 7:13Leaving saved me.
- 7:15Leaving worked. And that learning makes the alarm more likely to go off the
- 7:21next time you're in the same situation or in similar situations.
- 7:27Gradually, your brain will create a long list of places that you really need to start avoiding.
- 7:35Though although the avoidance makes you feel better now it made the panic more likely later.
- 7:42So what can we do? What is the float away?
- 7:47Well the basic answer is not to struggle with anything. Stop feeding the panic.
- 7:53And there are four useful things here that would be good to remember.
- 7:57The first is just to practice awareness and notice what's happening neutrally.
- 8:02Reminding yourself this is just a loop. But then you give it an accurate name,
- 8:07And it's really better not to call it a panic attack Because nothing's under
- 8:12attack It's just a misfiring brain signal,
- 8:16So why not call it there, the loop And say to yourself The loop is back That's
- 8:22all You don't have to analyze it You don't have to work out why it's happening,
- 8:28Just call it the name The loop is back.
- 8:31And the second one is allowing what's happening to happen. Now this can be tricky,
- 8:37because the sensations are great.
- 8:40However, you can remind yourself that this is a misfiring signal.
- 8:45This is the loop and you can notice your heart going at its own rate.
- 8:50You can maybe notice your arms or your body shaking.
- 8:54You can notice your breath getting faster or slower. You can let thought come and go.
- 9:00Just like you're watching it on a movie you don't have to like the movie you don't have to want it,
- 9:07but you don't have to argue with it either it's just your alarm going off and
- 9:11it's just the body doing what it's doing and it's just creating a loop.
- 9:17And related to that is what we call witnessing and I hinted at this earlier,
- 9:22it's really like watching the movie and stepping back from it you don't have
- 9:26to believe everything that's going on in the movie You don't have to believe
- 9:29every thought that comes along.
- 9:31You don't have to believe any of those predictions.
- 9:34And you can watch the three systems doing what they do. You can watch the storyteller,
- 9:39giving you all these dire predictions.
- 9:42You can notice the analyst producing a stream of worrisome thoughts.
- 9:46You can notice the threat detector pressing the feeling of alarm.
- 9:50And you don't have to stop any of that. You can just watch that movie.
- 9:54And it's rather like watching a storm from inside your house.
- 9:58You look up and the wind blows The rain falls The thunder rolls And you're not
- 10:04going to stop the storm You're just going to watch you pass.
- 10:09And that brings us to letting time pass.
- 10:12This is surprisingly important because it has to do with giving your body,
- 10:17your brain, time to slow down, time to run out of juice, time to go back and reset the alarm.
- 10:26But when you're panicking every second can feel like a long time because what
- 10:31we want is we want everything to stop now and we get impatient when it does not.
- 10:37So that becomes another form of resistance and it's time to let it go and it's
- 10:43time to let time pass And to remind yourself this will rise,
- 10:50it will peak and it will fall And you remember your nervous system already knows
- 10:56how to slow down if you give it time and space And lastly, float.
- 11:03That's the title of the book, Float.
- 11:06We're not fighting the wave, we're floating past it. We're not trying to control
- 11:11the wave, we're floating through it.
- 11:14But we're not lying down and giving up either. We're simply allowing the wave
- 11:18to pass through and continue with whatever is safe and appropriate to do in the moment.
- 11:25So if you're in a supermarket, you can move forward with the cure.
- 11:29If you're in a meeting you can let the meeting continue if you're in a lift
- 11:34you can let the doors open and close if,
- 11:37you're driving and it's safe to continue you can keep on driving and you don't
- 11:41have to prove anything not because leaving is forbidden but because staying
- 11:46rather than exiting gives your brain an important lesson,
- 11:51when it sees that you're not struggling when it sees that you're not trying
- 11:55to fix anything when it sees that you're not reacting,
- 11:59when it sees that you're not avoiding anything.
- 12:02Then you are confined to switch off and those feelings will fade away.
- 12:19None of what I've said today means the next loop, if there is one, will be pleasant.
- 12:25I'm not going to pretend the 5th of 13th of suddenly turn a huge series of adrenaline
- 12:29into a relaxing experience.
- 12:31They won't do that. But what they
- 12:34will do is to stop your adding a second layer of anxiety to the first.
- 12:41And in so doing to prolong the loop longer than it needs to go.
- 12:45Just remember, the loop has a beginning, it has a peak.
- 12:50And it will come to an end however if your panic attacks are frequent if they're,
- 12:56beginning to seem a little too overwhelming and you've started avoiding more
- 13:00and more places or situations because you're frightened of having another one,
- 13:05then you don't have to deal with it on your own,
- 13:09you can speak to your GP or you can speak to a therapist to understand panic
- 13:13disorder or agoraphobia and can help you release it You really don't have to do this on your own.
- 13:22I wish we pierced a nervous self-right.