Latest / Talk About That / Spooky Houses, Old Pillows, and Leadership
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Life audio.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Today, I'll talk about that. John rents a haunted Airbnb
- 0:10Speaker 2: and ponders podcasting from his deathbed. Meanwhile, I try to
- 0:14Speaker 2: be a better listener and discover the terrifying reason I
- 0:17Speaker 2: like hotel pillows. Well us a conversation about what real
- 0:21Speaker 2: leadership is and what it isn't. Today's episode is not
- 0:25Speaker 2: sponsored by Slice Bread. It's the best thing since bread.
- 0:29Speaker 2: But first a word from our actual sponsor.
- 0:40Speaker 3: Well, happy March to everyone listening. Is talk about that
- 0:43Speaker 3: is John and Johnny bring it back around again.
- 0:46Speaker 2: Bro, the mark beware.
- 0:52Speaker 1: Isn't fifteen ths.
- 0:55Speaker 2: Somebody posted a thing and I shared it on my stories.
- 0:57Speaker 2: It was like just a reminder that the eydes of
- 1:00Speaker 2: March is just employed by a big dagger.
- 1:02Speaker 1: To sell more daggers.
- 1:07Speaker 2: It's very. It's a very that's kind of a cerebral joke.
- 1:11Speaker 2: You got to know about Caesar and Brutus.
- 1:14Speaker 1: And yeah, by the eyes of March is fifteenth I
- 1:16Speaker 1: was correct, not hey, not that I need the credit.
- 1:20Speaker 1: It's a pretty common fourteenth.
- 1:22Speaker 2: Is Saint Patrick's day? Those are those always that close together?
- 1:25Speaker 1: I thought the seventeenth were Saint Patrick's. Yeah, maybe you're right,
- 1:28Speaker 1: Johnny do you. Yeah, so seventeen, do you. I don't
- 1:30Speaker 1: know what's going on. We're recording this.
- 1:32Speaker 2: Let's still pretty close together.
- 1:33Speaker 3: We're recording this a little later than usual, and we're like,
- 1:36Speaker 3: we're both No.
- 1:38Speaker 2: We're gonna be this is this is gonna be our best,
- 1:40Speaker 2: our finest hour.
- 1:41Speaker 1: Dude, I had interviews all day on a book thing.
- 1:43Speaker 1: Nobody cares. No one cares. But you did your job. Okay,
- 1:47Speaker 1: I get it. No, we know, we know.
- 1:48Speaker 2: Your meeting with very important people and high up places
- 1:51Speaker 2: that you can't talk about.
- 1:52Speaker 1: I can't talk about it.
- 1:53Speaker 2: It was a lot in DA's all around everybody.
- 1:56Speaker 1: It was a lot. I learned a lot today, Okay
- 1:59Speaker 1: about yourself.
- 2:00Speaker 2: No, this guy has a channel on Instagram and I
- 2:06Speaker 2: started following today because his basic hook of his channel.
- 2:10Speaker 2: I don't know what he is. Maybe he's a behavioral
- 2:12Speaker 2: therapist or a behavioral therapist, and he basically talks about
- 2:17Speaker 2: like social concepts that have kind of gone fallen by
- 2:21Speaker 2: the wayside as far as like conversationalism and just like
- 2:25Speaker 2: preferring one another, like etiquette in conversation and intimacy and etc.
- 2:30Speaker 2: And he's like, I'm trying to bring these things back,
- 2:33Speaker 2: so we're going to talk about it. But he's not confrontational.
- 2:35Speaker 2: He's just like, here's how to have a good conversation.
- 2:38Speaker 2: And he had one today that I think I may
- 2:40Speaker 2: have shared it, but it was basically like most people
- 2:43Speaker 2: don't have conversations. They have dual monologues. You say something
- 2:47Speaker 2: it reminds me of something I want to say, and
- 2:49Speaker 2: then you say something that reminds you of you. It's
- 2:50Speaker 2: not like we're trying to top each other. But he
- 2:53Speaker 2: was like, stop yourself from doing it and do these
- 2:55Speaker 2: three things. And one of them was like ask a question,
- 2:58Speaker 2: like if somebody says my kid, you know me some
- 3:00Speaker 2: mad on a plane, they say, oh, I see your thing.
- 3:02Speaker 2: Oh my kids in the school play. Oh right, I
- 3:04Speaker 2: did the school play when I was that's what meat
- 3:06Speaker 2: that you want to do? My kid was in the
- 3:07Speaker 2: school play and he didn't really like it. Instead of
- 3:09Speaker 2: being like, what's the play? Oh it's a little mermaid.
- 3:12Speaker 2: Oh what role did she get? Is she enjoying it?
- 3:15Speaker 1: That's cool?
- 3:16Speaker 2: That must make you feel so proud, And then tell
- 3:18Speaker 2: your thing.
- 3:18Speaker 1: But we don't do that anymore.
- 3:19Speaker 2: We go boom boom, We just trade and I start
- 3:21Speaker 2: start thinking like, I don't think I do it on purpose,
- 3:23Speaker 2: but I think that's become the way we all. Yeah,
- 3:27Speaker 2: and then we wonder why we don't have close friendships
- 3:29Speaker 2: is because nobody feels really listened to.
- 3:31Speaker 1: Maybe and how did that make you feel that? Tim?
- 3:35Speaker 2: Actually, what's funny is Tim Hawkins actually posted a bit today.
- 3:39Speaker 2: I didn't even put it together until you just said that.
- 3:41Speaker 2: But the old joke that he posted today was when
- 3:44Speaker 2: you go to therapy. At marriage counseling, they always talk
- 3:47Speaker 2: about like when you start feeling things get heated, just
- 3:50Speaker 2: don't freak out, don't start assuming things. Ask questions. That
- 3:53Speaker 2: helps further than he goes. So we're getting in an
- 3:55Speaker 2: argument for the day. I could feel it getting hot,
- 3:57Speaker 2: getting heated.
- 3:58Speaker 1: I stopped. I asked questions, Babe, why are you being
- 4:00Speaker 1: a psycho right now?
- 4:03Speaker 2: So funny, but I think the key is not to
- 4:06Speaker 2: do it in a condescending way, like but there is
- 4:07Speaker 2: a thing of like you want to reflect in other words,
- 4:10Speaker 2: make show them that you're listening.
- 4:13Speaker 1: Repeat something back there.
- 4:14Speaker 2: I know it feels like a ploy, and especially to
- 4:16Speaker 2: people who you want to be your authentic self, you're like.
- 4:17Speaker 1: No, this is what I do. I steamroll people.
- 4:20Speaker 2: But if you want to have close relationships, you got
- 4:22Speaker 2: to stop and be like, is my friendship and my conversational.
- 4:25Speaker 1: Etiquette at its best? But I do better.
- 4:29Speaker 2: I just want to be a better friend.
- 4:30Speaker 3: John Well, I would like that too. I'm just I'm
- 4:35Speaker 3: taking you down and I'm sorry.
- 4:36Speaker 2: We're going to get a lot of comments on this
- 4:37Speaker 2: episode about you guys do this all the time. You
- 4:40Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, like, that's your whole show is
- 4:43Speaker 2: just interrupting each other.
- 4:45Speaker 4: And one you were saying it like, oh no, that's
- 4:48Speaker 4: kind of our it's our vibe. I ask questions, you do,
- 4:50Speaker 4: and I do care about what you're saying. And I'm
- 4:52Speaker 4: trying to listen.
- 4:52Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, when I'm deep into
- 4:56Speaker 1: something on my segment, You're like okay and moving on
- 4:58Speaker 1: to the next to John fun stuff.
- 5:00Speaker 3: I'm glad this guy brought this up because we have
- 5:03Speaker 3: a lot man to unpass.
- 5:04Speaker 2: I wonder if one if his dms are open, I
- 5:06Speaker 2: need to find out a specific case study.
- 5:09Speaker 1: Tell me about this. Listen, I'm gonna send you some clips.
- 5:13Speaker 1: He'll be like, I'm not watching these. Yeah, I mean,
- 5:16Speaker 1: I think that's the thing too.
- 5:18Speaker 2: If you have a channel like that, and your whole
- 5:19Speaker 2: brand is based on telling people how to listen better.
- 5:22Speaker 2: I bet his family just gives him total crap if
- 5:24Speaker 2: he's just like you.
- 5:26Speaker 1: Know, if he's like and how did that?
- 5:28Speaker 2: I wasn't now, or if he doesn't abide by those steps,
- 5:31Speaker 2: and one, just one instance, all it takes is his
- 5:33Speaker 2: family noticing it, being like, dude, you're steamrolling me.
- 5:35Speaker 1: You're not listening, You're not really, That's what's hard.
- 5:37Speaker 3: I always struggle to be the mouthpiece of certain things,
- 5:41Speaker 3: because then you will be held to a higher standard.
- 5:44Speaker 1: You know.
- 5:44Speaker 3: There was a pastor who I actually met with one time,
- 5:47Speaker 3: and he was unbelievably nice, and he wrote all these
- 5:50Speaker 3: books on gentleness and engagement with your staff right, and
- 5:57Speaker 3: then got real rail wrote it out of his chair
- 6:00Speaker 3: for apparently some sort of toxic staff culture.
- 6:03Speaker 1: Oh wow. And it was like about the very things.
- 6:05Speaker 1: I don't know what's making that noise? Yeah, you're wrestling
- 6:07Speaker 1: about the very things that he was writing about.
- 6:10Speaker 3: And again, I don't know, maybe the things against him
- 6:12Speaker 3: were untrue that were said, you know, but it was like,
- 6:16Speaker 3: that's that's extra disappointing once, like that's been your message.
- 6:20Speaker 2: I think it's one of the reasons a lot of
- 6:22Speaker 2: people don't speak out about something because then they go, well, now,
- 6:25Speaker 2: am I held to a standard?
- 6:27Speaker 1: Right? You know what I mean? Am I?
- 6:28Speaker 2: So they just go I stand for nothing because I
- 6:30Speaker 2: don't want to be ever like half my words thrown
- 6:33Speaker 2: back at me.
- 6:33Speaker 1: Well, that's kind of the thing.
- 6:34Speaker 3: Like when I wrote on racism, I'll never get the
- 6:37Speaker 3: guy asking me like, are you the racism guy? Now,
- 6:39Speaker 3: I'm like, man, I can't speak for that whole topic
- 6:43Speaker 3: as the only topic.
- 6:45Speaker 1: And I don't like if if I had to pick
- 6:47Speaker 1: something I was an expert on, that's a great question.
- 6:50Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to move something around here. I don't
- 6:52Speaker 1: know what's happened. What are you doing? I don't know
- 6:53Speaker 1: what that noise is or why is that better? Okay?
- 6:58Speaker 1: If I just like, if you to pick something you
- 7:00Speaker 1: thought I was an expert at.
- 7:04Speaker 2: In US history probably maybe, or like theology maybe.
- 7:08Speaker 1: I mean I think I don't think I know anything
- 7:10Speaker 1: all of a sudden.
- 7:11Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's why I mean, is like, you
- 7:12Speaker 2: know church history and theology.
- 7:13Speaker 1: I know you know about yeah an.
- 7:16Speaker 2: Expert, yeah, but I'm saying you know enough to be
- 7:20Speaker 2: like more of an expert than a random layer.
- 7:22Speaker 3: If you give me notes and give me time, I
- 7:24Speaker 3: can probably explain things.
- 7:25Speaker 1: You know.
- 7:26Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, but like again, that's what's hard about sometimes
- 7:32Speaker 3: what I do as a writer is I have to
- 7:34Speaker 3: become an expert on this book right to help this
- 7:37Speaker 3: person get their message quickly.
- 7:39Speaker 2: Become an expert on that person.
- 7:41Speaker 1: But did you mind yourself? You're not really an expert.
- 7:43Speaker 2: You just learned and won't that some of you all
- 7:47Speaker 2: out here just.
- 7:47Speaker 1: Because you got some memes and a book or two.
- 7:50Speaker 1: Does not an expert make.
- 7:53Speaker 2: Memes. That's the thing, man, somebody it's expert on memes
- 7:56Speaker 2: can make a good living right now. It's more valuable
- 7:58Speaker 2: in our culture than Isn't that odd?
- 8:01Speaker 1: You know?
- 8:01Speaker 3: I rail against like AI to that to that end,
- 8:03Speaker 3: and I have like three ideas how I could become
- 8:06Speaker 3: rich on AI online.
- 8:08Speaker 1: But then you're like, yeah, but am I really you
- 8:10Speaker 1: know what I was talking?
- 8:11Speaker 2: Yesterday I did a thing for ONS, which was the
- 8:15Speaker 2: Oncology Nurse Society in Paducah, Kentucky. It's the fortieth anniversary.
- 8:20Speaker 1: Of there does some important work.
- 8:21Speaker 2: They're doing some very important work, and so like fifty
- 8:25Speaker 2: nurses and their spouses in this little like auditorium area
- 8:29Speaker 2: of this medical center. And so I was there doing
- 8:33Speaker 2: my show, but I was talking to the lady beforehand,
- 8:35Speaker 2: and she was talking about she was in the research
- 8:37Speaker 2: side of things now, and then she was saying something
- 8:39Speaker 2: about teaching, and she was like my son's she goes,
- 8:41Speaker 2: I would never want to be a teacher right now.
- 8:43Speaker 2: I just ough, I can't imagine. I go, yeah, I said,
- 8:45Speaker 2: you're talking about you. You went from being an oncology
- 8:48Speaker 2: nurse into out oncology and research. I said, now being
- 8:52Speaker 2: a teacher, especially a college teacher, I can't even imagine.
- 8:55Speaker 2: First of all, it based cheating. Second of all, everybody
- 8:58Speaker 2: thinks they know everything because we've done our own research.
- 9:01Speaker 2: We watched an episode of a podcast and we're like,
- 9:03Speaker 2: I think I got it, but I understand mitosis, you know,
- 9:08Speaker 2: And you're like, no, I don't think you do.
- 9:10Speaker 3: Yeah, we have to do that with Sadie, Like, hey,
- 9:13Speaker 3: because she actually wants to be engaged in like political social.
- 9:18Speaker 1: Current events and wants to be engaged to a boy eventually.
- 9:21Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're like, I have to go, hey, you're
- 9:25Speaker 3: right about a lot of things, and you're speaking well
- 9:28Speaker 3: on a topic that most kids your age are not.
- 9:31Speaker 1: Also, just tell me what your source was, and she
- 9:34Speaker 1: goes it was a TikTok.
- 9:35Speaker 3: Okay, there's a good chance it's not completely accurate, but
- 9:40Speaker 3: you have that news app on your phone.
- 9:42Speaker 1: I mean then she just she's staring off into space
- 9:44Speaker 1: at that point. I don't mind.
- 9:46Speaker 3: Like, as long as you go use that as a
- 9:48Speaker 3: reason to go find the full story and don't just
- 9:51Speaker 3: as soon as.
- 9:51Speaker 2: Your resource isn't your source isn't. Dave and Anna four
- 9:55Speaker 2: one six right, which I mean they're good and they are.
- 9:58Speaker 1: I mean, I I've learned some.
- 10:00Speaker 2: It's a think tank over there.
- 10:01Speaker 3: But the deal is, though, it's like it's hard because
- 10:04Speaker 3: even the videos you can't trust. Now I saw the
- 10:07Speaker 3: video clip though I saw the guys say it. Well,
- 10:10Speaker 3: maybe he didn't.
- 10:12Speaker 1: Maybe this is not happening right now. I don't believe.
- 10:14Speaker 3: What if our podcast is what if we've been phoning
- 10:16Speaker 3: it in with AI phoning.
- 10:17Speaker 2: It in, which that's what fake is. We're fowing it in, guys, John,
- 10:27Speaker 2: you know it's not fake.
- 10:28Speaker 1: What's that? I have a feeling I think I do know. Well,
- 10:31Speaker 1: we hope.
- 10:31Speaker 2: So anyway, a few words now from our advertisers that
- 10:35Speaker 2: help us keep the lights on here talk about that.
- 10:37Speaker 1: Let's hear a few and we're back. I wish everyone's
- 10:50Speaker 1: safe dwelling. I guess that's right.
- 10:53Speaker 2: What it was saying.
- 10:55Speaker 1: I don't know what safe. There's weather moving through right now.
- 10:59Speaker 3: Yeah, being your dwelling and be safe. I just made
- 11:03Speaker 3: a new thing goodbye and said like to wish everyone's
- 11:06Speaker 3: safe dwelling.
- 11:07Speaker 1: As they say, what's wrong with you, I'm making it.
- 11:12Speaker 1: We have got we'll fix all this and I'm not
- 11:16Speaker 1: fixing that.
- 11:17Speaker 2: Safe travels, save travels, and when you get home safe dwelling,
- 11:20Speaker 2: safe dwelling, that means like a snowstorm's coming, what's going on?
- 11:24Speaker 1: Well there, they need to be dwell It came through
- 11:26Speaker 1: a storm today. Remember there's like tornadoes and stuff.
- 11:28Speaker 2: Yeah, I got rained on. I didn't know the tornadoes
- 11:31Speaker 2: in the area though.
- 11:31Speaker 4: See you were safe traveling, sure, but if you've been
- 11:34Speaker 4: home safe dwell welling. Guys started with your family.
- 11:38Speaker 1: I hope that state farm was the or something, because
- 11:40Speaker 1: isn't safe dwelling one of your coverages. I think it
- 11:43Speaker 1: may be. I don't know.
- 11:44Speaker 3: That's that's as late forties and early fifties as you
- 11:48Speaker 3: could say.
- 11:48Speaker 2: Before we get to your quote, John, Yeah, I want
- 11:50Speaker 2: to say something I learned about myself this week, Okay,
- 11:54Speaker 2: because I was thinking about with the ads, because we
- 11:56Speaker 2: never know what these ads are going to be, and
- 11:58Speaker 2: I feel like I'm a target for some of these
- 11:59Speaker 2: things just because of my everyday life, because I travel
- 12:01Speaker 2: all the time. Safe dwelling, if you will, that's what
- 12:04Speaker 2: we call it now on the road, just try to
- 12:05Speaker 2: practice safe dwelling. And I stay in a lot of hotels. Now,
- 12:09Speaker 2: I know that when Laura was on the road a
- 12:10Speaker 2: ton y'all ended up buying the mattress from the hotel, right,
- 12:13Speaker 2: you bought like the same mattress that she loved in
- 12:15Speaker 2: the Marriottes. Yeah, because I remember you telling me about like, oh,
- 12:18Speaker 2: it's the best mattress and we bought it and it's
- 12:19Speaker 2: a million dollars and I go, well, it must be nice.
- 12:23Speaker 1: Okay.
- 12:23Speaker 2: So I am a big fan of like the pillows
- 12:25Speaker 2: sometimes in a hotel that I stand.
- 12:27Speaker 1: I'm like these pillows, if I had this pillow, you know,
- 12:30Speaker 1: they're always so thinned me.
- 12:31Speaker 2: No, no, no, but some of them are good, like
- 12:33Speaker 2: some pillows, I agree. But sometimes you go to hotel
- 12:35Speaker 2: and you're like, hey, man, this is a and sometimes
- 12:39Speaker 2: there'll be a tag on it. So I stayed at
- 12:40Speaker 2: whatever JW. Marriott Hotel and they were like, oh, order
- 12:42Speaker 2: this pillow and blah blah blah. I was like, I'm
- 12:44Speaker 2: on it.
- 12:45Speaker 1: So I did.
- 12:46Speaker 2: And that was like four or five months ago. I
- 12:49Speaker 2: get the pillow. I immediately hate it and I was like,
- 12:54Speaker 2: this is not the same pillow.
- 12:55Speaker 1: It's not.
- 12:56Speaker 2: And I had a thought this week and I think
- 12:58Speaker 2: I know why I like the pillow, and it really
- 13:00Speaker 2: disturbed me. I think I need a pillow that's been
- 13:03Speaker 2: compressed by a thousand strange heads. Oh. I think that's
- 13:07Speaker 2: what's going on with that pillow. It's just not been
- 13:09Speaker 2: slept on, oh by weirdos. That's and compressed and like
- 13:14Speaker 2: worn out, Like it's the one thing in our life
- 13:16Speaker 2: that it's kind of like a pillow was broken in
- 13:18Speaker 2: for me, and I think that's what I like. But
- 13:21Speaker 2: I buy a new one. I hate it. What other
- 13:23Speaker 2: thing can you think of that you would buy a
- 13:25Speaker 2: new one? And you go, it's not as good as
- 13:28Speaker 2: used thing, like a broken bottle.
- 13:29Speaker 1: Clothes and you're like, oh no, I need to want
- 13:31Speaker 1: to break these jeans in.
- 13:32Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing with like shoes and boots,
- 13:34Speaker 2: like boots really do like you'll get blisters. You can't
- 13:37Speaker 2: just wear your boots out the first night.
- 13:39Speaker 1: You gotta figure out a way to rustling cattle. And no,
- 13:42Speaker 1: you gotta have broken in go down on Broadway.
- 13:44Speaker 2: You think your boots scooting and these you're gonna get
- 13:46Speaker 2: blisters for days.
- 13:48Speaker 1: No, you know. I take my own pillow. Yeah, it
- 13:50Speaker 1: rolls up into it's a it's a square phone pillow. Yes,
- 13:54Speaker 1: and it rolls up and I have a little.
- 13:56Speaker 3: Like I told if it's in my carry on like
- 13:59Speaker 3: it's yeah, sad.
- 14:01Speaker 2: I told Bates about it today at lunch. And here's
- 14:03Speaker 2: what his idea was. He said, take the pillow that
- 14:06Speaker 2: you bought and do a little Indiana Jones with the
- 14:10Speaker 2: golden idol idea, switch it out. Upgrading. Yeah, I'm upgrading.
- 14:14Speaker 2: And they're kind of upgrading because they're geting brand new pillow.
- 14:16Speaker 1: If they put a tracker in one of those things, though,
- 14:18Speaker 1: it'd be weird.
- 14:20Speaker 2: Who tracks a pillow'd be gray. Get a phone call, sir,
- 14:23Speaker 2: we know what you did. This pillow has been flagged.
- 14:26Speaker 1: We have cameras in your room. What.
- 14:29Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if somebody needs to offer me
- 14:32Speaker 2: advice on this.
- 14:33Speaker 1: Maybe I don't.
- 14:33Speaker 2: Maybe people can't relate to this, But I just feel
- 14:35Speaker 2: like you I wouldn't say the same about a mattress,
- 14:37Speaker 2: but I'm saying like, because those get all weird and
- 14:39Speaker 2: you know, you get like indentions in them and they
- 14:41Speaker 2: fit your body and you go, it's time to get
- 14:43Speaker 2: rid of this one. It's you know, it's like a
- 14:46Speaker 2: I'm trapped in carbonite, like Han Solo.
- 14:48Speaker 3: Yeah, we had our own little pillow.
- 14:53Speaker 1: It wasn't really pillow. It was a bad problem. Yeah.
- 14:56Speaker 3: On the road last weekend, do tell well, we I
- 15:00Speaker 3: tried to stay in an airbnb, which it's it's a
- 15:06Speaker 3: mixed bag. We've done Airbnb's a lot.
- 15:08Speaker 4: And Airbnb's okay.
- 15:12Speaker 1: The pictures look great. It was an older house though.
- 15:16Speaker 3: We pull up it'd been raining driving late, pull up
- 15:20Speaker 3: and we like pulled up to a haunted house.
- 15:22Speaker 2: Oh no, I mean like it so would you say
- 15:24Speaker 2: it was not safe dwelling?
- 15:27Speaker 3: Well, walk in the main light in the hallway doesn't work.
- 15:30Speaker 3: There's huge hallways and there's a bathroom at the end,
- 15:35Speaker 3: and it has some picture of a lady on the
- 15:38Speaker 3: shower curtain and you can see what the front door open,
- 15:41Speaker 3: so you walk in, you're like looking, I had let
- 15:43Speaker 3: a lady standing there.
- 15:44Speaker 2: Basically, Yeah, it's like a jump scale.
- 15:45Speaker 3: Couldn't get any of the lamps to come on for
- 15:47Speaker 3: a while to figure them out, and then we would
- 15:50Speaker 3: have to all stay in separate rooms because they didn't
- 15:52Speaker 3: have any kings.
- 15:53Speaker 1: Yeah, and I didn't. It was like it was just
- 15:56Speaker 1: we left. You just left. We left and got a hotel.
- 16:00Speaker 1: How much was the airbnb? You don't we got a refund?
- 16:03Speaker 1: Oh you got Yeah. We told him there was also
- 16:05Speaker 1: a smell. That's what I got the refund for.
- 16:06Speaker 3: It was like a real floral almost like a funeral,
- 16:09Speaker 3: like a real floral cleaning something. But I was like, yes,
- 16:13Speaker 3: Saydie's not because she has to get up for a
- 16:15Speaker 3: tournament the next morning.
- 16:15Speaker 1: And I wasn't gonna sleep because I can't. Yeah, I
- 16:18Speaker 1: can't watch.
- 16:19Speaker 3: I mean the doors were easy to open, checking all
- 16:21Speaker 3: the windows anyway, jump scar shower curt.
- 16:23Speaker 1: Yeah, jump let me tell you. Yeah. She was sending
- 16:26Speaker 1: it to her teammates are like what are you doing?
- 16:27Speaker 1: Get out? Like it was so funny. Everything's dramatic run. Yeah,
- 16:33Speaker 1: I can't believe your dad would put you through this.
- 16:35Speaker 3: I know it's such a hard life we live. Yeah,
- 16:37Speaker 3: she's thinks about that time though. Oh okay, it's my
- 16:40Speaker 3: quarter of the week. A segment call, they talked, how
- 16:41Speaker 3: about that? John Kenneth Gale Braith was nineteen o eight
- 17:00Speaker 3: who lived almost one hundred years Canadian American economists diplomat,
- 17:04Speaker 3: public intellectual. I don't want to be a public intellectual.
- 17:07Speaker 3: Well right now I'm sort of a private intellectual.
- 17:14Speaker 1: Which means I'm not intellectual all.
- 17:15Speaker 3: Who spent much of his career as a professor economics
- 17:18Speaker 3: at Harvard heeps doing Okay, yeah, my guess is yeah. Anyway,
- 17:22Speaker 3: He was also a US ambassador, all kinds of things.
- 17:24Speaker 3: He said, all of the great leaders have one characteristic
- 17:28Speaker 3: in common. It was the willingness to confront unequivocally the
- 17:32Speaker 3: major anxiety of their people in their time.
- 17:34Speaker 1: This and not much else is the essence of leadership.
- 17:38Speaker 3: Wow, to confront the unequivocally the major anxiety of their
- 17:43Speaker 3: people and their time. So I was writing part of
- 17:46Speaker 3: this has really hit me. I can't talk much about
- 17:48Speaker 3: what I'm writing about, but I am writing for people
- 17:53Speaker 3: who were leading in government during the pandemic, and they're
- 18:00Speaker 3: experiences versus our experiences here even at church, or our
- 18:06Speaker 3: personal experiences. I was just I was blown away by
- 18:12Speaker 3: And one of them even said today, like you just
- 18:14Speaker 3: can't know until you're in that chair, Like there's just
- 18:19Speaker 3: things you can't explain about what it feels like or whatever.
- 18:22Speaker 1: When people are depending on you.
- 18:24Speaker 3: You have this job to do, you know, especially if
- 18:27Speaker 3: you've been elected to do a job. And I think
- 18:31Speaker 3: when you look at leadership today and I think this
- 18:33Speaker 3: can count for church or government or wherever. You know,
- 18:38Speaker 3: do we feel today that our number one priority is
- 18:42Speaker 3: to deal with that major thing?
- 18:45Speaker 1: Right? So the pandemic made us have to do it.
- 18:48Speaker 3: Yeah, but you feel like like I mean, Tennessee State
- 18:51Speaker 3: Legislature is in session right now, and there are bills
- 18:54Speaker 3: that people are putting forth that are absolutely just for
- 18:58Speaker 3: the purpose of getting articles and posts.
- 19:02Speaker 1: Yeah, like they're never going to.
- 19:03Speaker 2: Pass, right, it's performative legislation.
- 19:05Speaker 3: It's just grandstanding to get base so that yeah, you
- 19:08Speaker 3: can hopefully get elected again in two years. But they
- 19:12Speaker 3: don't help anybody. There are some hot button issue that
- 19:15Speaker 3: really are not even out hot button.
- 19:17Speaker 2: To draw a circle and leave people in and out.
- 19:19Speaker 2: It's a weird yeah. Yeah, it's grandstanding.
- 19:21Speaker 3: Yeah, and you just go, Actually, we have a lot
- 19:23Speaker 3: of things we need you to actually lead on.
- 19:25Speaker 2: We have anxiety, We've got anxiety.
- 19:27Speaker 3: There's some major things happening, like we need you to
- 19:30Speaker 3: show up and lead on those and to do that.
- 19:34Speaker 1: And that's you know what we're talking about.
- 19:35Speaker 3: Today's some in the interviews like it's not popular when
- 19:39Speaker 3: you have to make a call that you know is
- 19:41Speaker 3: going to make someone who is that? Bobby Kennedy said
- 19:43Speaker 3: that one of these I can't read the exact percentages,
- 19:46Speaker 3: but he said something effective, twenty percent of the people
- 19:50Speaker 3: will disagree with what with everything you do all the time? Yeah,
- 19:53Speaker 3: no matter what you do, twenty percent of the people
- 19:55Speaker 3: are going are gonna hate it. If you're gonna actually lead, Uh,
- 19:58Speaker 3: you got to be okay with that. Yeah, And you can't,
- 20:00Speaker 3: you know, you can't be. So it's like this way
- 20:02Speaker 3: of caring about people without only living to please them
- 20:07Speaker 3: for the sake of what it brings you to the
- 20:09Speaker 3: point of I think a real leader will lead to
- 20:11Speaker 3: the point if it leads them out of their position.
- 20:13Speaker 1: But was what was best for the people. I think
- 20:16Speaker 1: that's a hard one. Yeah, these days, in the modern world.
- 20:20Speaker 1: Maybe it was always hard.
- 20:21Speaker 2: But yeah, because you're always afraid of being accused of
- 20:23Speaker 2: being like a wishy washy person. If you were to
- 20:26Speaker 2: be like I have more information now, yeah, and so
- 20:29Speaker 2: that would be like he used to be, that would
- 20:30Speaker 2: be political death.
- 20:31Speaker 1: Now I don't know. I don't even know if we
- 20:32Speaker 1: have political death anymore.
- 20:34Speaker 2: Yeah, Like we don't have moments where like aha, there's
- 20:37Speaker 2: no aha, we just go Yeah, I still like him, right,
- 20:41Speaker 2: I'm still voting that way.
- 20:43Speaker 1: He's better than the other guy. You go, is he though, Yeah,
- 20:47Speaker 1: he showed you what he was. Yeah, I don't know.
- 20:49Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, but it does let.
- 20:51Speaker 3: You know the power of the negative, the negativity bias
- 20:57Speaker 3: we placed towards opponents with with boogeyman language, you know.
- 21:02Speaker 3: And again someone the other day I was talking and
- 21:05Speaker 3: they were like, I won't say which party. They're like,
- 21:06Speaker 3: you sound like it, and they named the party and
- 21:09Speaker 3: I was like that I'm not, And I was like, well,
- 21:13Speaker 3: who told you that? If someone has this one small
- 21:16Speaker 3: viewpoint or nuance, really it wasn't a viewpoint like just
- 21:19Speaker 3: I'm just giving a nuanced take that automatically.
- 21:22Speaker 1: That person has to be this.
- 21:24Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's power in that because if you make
- 21:26Speaker 3: them afraid of that, then there does no matter what
- 21:29Speaker 3: you do anymore, as long as they're more afraid of
- 21:30Speaker 3: that than they are.
- 21:31Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 21:32Speaker 2: Yeah, I call it like making somebody bite size. You
- 21:34Speaker 2: just like take them down to like this, like they can.
- 21:37Speaker 2: They can set you aside and be like that's what
- 21:39Speaker 2: you are. They make you bite size, They just go,
- 21:41Speaker 2: I don't have to deal with the whole person anymore.
- 21:43Speaker 1: Okay, we're good man. Yeah.
- 21:45Speaker 3: Arbager Institute's book The Anatomy of Peace talks about that
- 21:48Speaker 3: being objectifying. Make someone into an object. If you can
- 21:51Speaker 3: call them something like stupid or idiot or woke or
- 21:56Speaker 3: right winger or whatever, pick your poison. If I can
- 21:59Speaker 3: put a late on you that's not Johnny right, or
- 22:03Speaker 3: you're a dad or you're a husband, it dehumanizes you,
- 22:06Speaker 3: and then I know that dehumanizes even is. I think
- 22:09Speaker 3: we've heard that so much, with so many accusations of
- 22:13Speaker 3: quite frankly accusations and using terms that most people don't
- 22:19Speaker 3: I don't mean this because they're dumb, but they just
- 22:20Speaker 3: don't fully know exactly what a fascist is or exactly
- 22:24Speaker 3: what a socialist is or like, but I can just
- 22:27Speaker 3: throw that on you. And there are some that call
- 22:30Speaker 3: their opponents both fascistness, like what's kind of hard to
- 22:34Speaker 3: be both actually but.
- 22:35Speaker 1: Right and it's true.
- 22:36Speaker 2: And then, I mean, we went through a lot of
- 22:38Speaker 2: times too where everybody was being called a racist for
- 22:41Speaker 2: a long time too, you know, saying that there was
- 22:43Speaker 2: still a lot of that unfair too, you know what
- 22:45Speaker 2: I'm saying, like like trying to have a take on
- 22:47Speaker 2: something and everything was like going to be called a
- 22:49Speaker 2: racist for.
- 22:50Speaker 1: This or whatever. Well and everything again, the people that
- 22:52Speaker 1: when I was writing not so Black and White, when
- 22:54Speaker 1: you're really talking to people actually doing good things in
- 22:58Speaker 1: those spaces, they don't consider every body a racist, right, It.
- 23:01Speaker 3: Comes to a place of the accusations easier than working together.
- 23:07Speaker 3: Now there are people that choose whether it's sexist or
- 23:10Speaker 3: racist or whatever ways of being in their response even now,
- 23:14Speaker 3: to defy the label, Oh I'm not scared of you
- 23:18Speaker 3: calling me.
- 23:20Speaker 2: There's actual blatant racism out there. That's why I think
- 23:22Speaker 2: it's so important to be careful about throwing that term around.
- 23:25Speaker 3: Right, because if everybody is then when you need someone
- 23:29Speaker 3: to actually be.
- 23:30Speaker 1: It just feels like you're the boy who cried racist.
- 23:33Speaker 1: So yeah, it's great. It's a weird fable, great quote.
- 23:37Speaker 1: I like it. John.
- 23:38Speaker 2: Let's do my segments. Let's start with old jokes. We
- 23:40Speaker 2: call it joke about that?
- 23:45Speaker 1: What do we call it again? That's your easiest pitch
- 23:49Speaker 1: at the whole time.
- 23:49Speaker 2: After attending ethics training, Bob went up to his boss.
- 23:52Speaker 1: Boss.
- 23:53Speaker 2: He said that ethics training has me feeling bad about
- 23:55Speaker 2: us doing product testing on animals. The boss replies, but Bob,
- 23:58Speaker 2: this is an accepted practice and many shampoo and cosmetics
- 24:02Speaker 2: manufacturers test their products on animals. Bob responded, yes, but
- 24:05Speaker 2: we make hammers.
- 24:08Speaker 1: That's dark. That's really dark. John Bono and the Edge
- 24:11Speaker 1: walk into a bar.
- 24:12Speaker 2: The bartender says, not you too again, Okay, uh sorry,
- 24:19Speaker 2: And finally, johnn a young man, I like a lot
- 24:22Speaker 2: of these are a lot of walk into places. A
- 24:24Speaker 2: young man walks into a supermarket buys a bar of soap,
- 24:27Speaker 2: a toothbrush, toothpaste, a loaf of bread, a container of milk,
- 24:30Speaker 2: two boxes of cereal, and a frozen dinner. The girl
- 24:32Speaker 2: at the cash register looks at him and says, single huh,
- 24:35Speaker 2: The man replies, very sarcastically. How'd you guess? She says,
- 24:38Speaker 2: because you're ugly?
- 24:42Speaker 3: By the way, I had an idea. It's not quite
- 24:44Speaker 3: a segment.
- 24:45Speaker 1: Yeah, but occasionally is it called because you're ugly? I
- 24:48Speaker 1: come up with a really stupid punchline. Yeah, and I
- 24:51Speaker 1: need you to write a joke around in the moment,
- 24:56Speaker 1: though it takes some time. Yeah, but like I I
- 25:00Speaker 1: want a joke right that. The ending is.
- 25:03Speaker 3: Poncious pilates. Now, it's got a lot that you're gonna
- 25:08Speaker 3: have to really work hard.
- 25:10Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
- 25:11Speaker 2: All right, Pilates, Come on, Johnny punches pilates. Uh something
- 25:17Speaker 2: about take up your mat and walk.
- 25:18Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know.
- 25:22Speaker 3: I don't know either, but it would it make me
- 25:23Speaker 3: laugh if there was a joke that ended with that.
- 25:26Speaker 3: So I just laughed anyway, not knowing how even it works,
- 25:30Speaker 3: but I just like I like wordplays.
- 25:32Speaker 1: Anyway, I do too.
- 25:33Speaker 2: Yeah, man walks into a barapus. Okay, john let's do
- 25:36Speaker 2: this week in history. We call it talk about that. Wait,
- 25:39Speaker 2: that's not what we call it. My segments are? We
- 25:43Speaker 2: call it talk about then? Man, We're never going to
- 25:47Speaker 2: record this late in the day, and I'm again, I
- 25:48Speaker 2: promise y'all we're gonna do better.
- 25:50Speaker 1: I'm not off. We'll fix all this now. It's gonna
- 25:52Speaker 1: be great.
- 25:52Speaker 2: We're not fixing anything John. This week nineteen twenty seven,
- 25:55Speaker 2: the first armored car robbery members of the Flathead Gang, which, Wow,
- 26:02Speaker 2: come on, y'all, you're going to be in a gang.
- 26:04Speaker 3: They were actually brothers to the Phillips Head Gang, but
- 26:08Speaker 3: they were.
- 26:09Speaker 1: As a whole different thing. Yeah.
- 26:11Speaker 2: They dynamited a Brinks armored car en route outside of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,
- 26:17Speaker 2: make off with one hundred four thousand, over two million
- 26:20Speaker 2: dollars in today's money.
- 26:21Speaker 1: Wow.
- 26:21Speaker 2: One of the guards noted the license played to the
- 26:23Speaker 2: getaway car, and several members of the gang were arrested
- 26:26Speaker 2: the following day, including gang leader Paul Jaworski. He pleaded
- 26:30Speaker 2: guilty to two murders committed during previous robberies and was
- 26:34Speaker 2: sentenced to death. However, the following August, he and another
- 26:36Speaker 2: inmate shot their way out of jail okay woanning two
- 26:39Speaker 2: guards in the process.
- 26:40Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.
- 26:41Speaker 2: Jawarski was executed in January of nineteen twenty nine. I
- 26:43Speaker 2: wanted to think about that. I wanted this make this
- 26:45Speaker 2: list because I was like, how did they get guns
- 26:46Speaker 2: in jail?
- 26:47Speaker 1: Yeah? And why would you plead guilty if you're gonna
- 26:52Speaker 1: get the death penalty anyway? Shot his way out at
- 26:54Speaker 1: least try.
- 26:54Speaker 2: He reminded me of a story that I've tried to
- 26:56Speaker 2: make a joke out of it, and I've done it
- 26:57Speaker 2: a few times. I need to just keep working on it.
- 26:59Speaker 2: But it was about a guy who was so fat
- 27:03Speaker 2: that his brother snuck him in a gun and he
- 27:06Speaker 2: hid it under a fat roll. Yeah, and then he
- 27:08Speaker 2: shot his way out, yeah, of jail or it was
- 27:12Speaker 2: a thing. Now that's from the Bible. You're right, that's
- 27:14Speaker 2: one of the judges or the king, the evil King
- 27:16Speaker 2: in the Book of Judges. But it made me think, like,
- 27:20Speaker 2: was he fat before? That's the part of that. Did
- 27:22Speaker 2: he get that fat? Because I got to get this plan,
- 27:25Speaker 2: like he calls and he goes tonight's night, and he goes,
- 27:27Speaker 2: I'm not fat enough. And then and then my punchline
- 27:31Speaker 2: was that's the kind of guy that when you're sneaking
- 27:34Speaker 2: in the cake, you know, with the the file inside
- 27:37Speaker 2: of it, inside of it, is actually another cake because you're.
- 27:42Speaker 1: Just trying so dumb. That's good. And then I think
- 27:45Speaker 1: somebody gave me the tag.
- 27:46Speaker 2: You should see where he put the getaway car.
- 27:51Speaker 1: Ridiculous good anyway, all right, John? This week?
- 27:54Speaker 2: This week eighteen eighty eight, the Great White Hurricane, which
- 27:58Speaker 2: was my nickname when I was fat, one of the
- 28:00Speaker 2: most famous snowstorms in US history. It killed four hundred
- 28:03Speaker 2: people and created a fifty foot snow drift. It lasted
- 28:07Speaker 2: for four days, with snowfalls up to fifty eight inches
- 28:10Speaker 2: in Saratoga Springs, New York. The destruction of telegraph lines
- 28:14Speaker 2: led to their being placed underground in the future, so
- 28:17Speaker 2: and I had underground power lines in my neighborhood. It's
- 28:20Speaker 2: one of the reasons the ice storm did not make
- 28:22Speaker 2: us lose power. Wow, underground POWERLEL.
- 28:24Speaker 1: Fancy. I didn't think that did that anywhere in Tennessee.
- 28:27Speaker 2: What underground peril? Yeah, evidently it's in my subdivision. There's
- 28:30Speaker 2: underground POWERLEL.
- 28:31Speaker 1: I can't hide money.
- 28:32Speaker 2: But it still could have been affected by one of
- 28:33Speaker 2: the major transformers that was connected to it. I guess
- 28:37Speaker 2: they're still on the group with somebody, but for now,
- 28:40Speaker 2: until I get my own.
- 28:42Speaker 1: You know, would you cover the back of your roof
- 28:44Speaker 1: with solar panels and get off the grid? I don't
- 28:47Speaker 1: think so.
- 28:48Speaker 2: I think the thing about solar that and maybe I'm
- 28:50Speaker 2: just being uneducated about it. I'm not an expert about
- 28:52Speaker 2: solar but you just read these things that say like
- 28:54Speaker 2: they take so long to pay for themselves, and then
- 28:56Speaker 2: that the panels are outdated by the time you get
- 28:58Speaker 2: to that.
- 28:58Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a whole thing. He just needs some
- 29:00Speaker 4: more work, right, We're not there yet. I had a
- 29:02Speaker 4: quote one time, sixty grand. Yeah, and I was like,
- 29:05Speaker 4: do you know for you to save me, say two
- 29:07Speaker 4: undred dollars a month?
- 29:08Speaker 1: Yeah, how long it.
- 29:09Speaker 3: Would take for me to make up the cost of this.
- 29:12Speaker 3: And then yes, the equipment is horribly expensive.
- 29:14Speaker 2: And then it gets outdated, it comes whatever you call it.
- 29:19Speaker 2: But yeah, he did it because John's like, like, I
- 29:21Speaker 2: got to get rid of this sixty grand somehow I'm
- 29:23Speaker 2: laundering money over here. John born this week, nineteen seventy one,
- 29:30Speaker 2: Tennessee's own Johnny Knoxville, Okay.
- 29:33Speaker 1: Born in my hometown. Actual name Philip John Clap PJ. Clap.
- 29:38Speaker 1: That's a good change.
- 29:39Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a good His dad was ran the
- 29:42Speaker 2: Clap Automotive. He was an auto repair shop.
- 29:44Speaker 1: They didn't Collee, I can't clap Clapp Clap.
- 29:50Speaker 2: American stunt performer, actor, producer, Screenwriter's best known as a
- 29:53Speaker 2: co creator and star of MTV reality stunt show which
- 29:57Speaker 2: will go unnamed because everybody knows the name and will
- 29:59Speaker 2: it get a sense?
- 30:00Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 30:00Speaker 2: We're on Life Audio, but you know the show if
- 30:02Speaker 2: you know. Johnny Knoxville and it's subsequent movies. He's out
- 30:06Speaker 2: there still. He's doing Fear Factor now, the reboot of
- 30:09Speaker 2: Fear Factor, which who could be a better choice than
- 30:10Speaker 2: Johnny Knoxville. He let his hair go gray, which I admire.
- 30:14Speaker 2: He's just like, you know what, I'm going to be
- 30:15Speaker 2: an old guy that's doing this weird stuff.
- 30:17Speaker 1: Now.
- 30:18Speaker 2: It doesn't you know, when you see an old guy
- 30:20Speaker 2: doing crazy stuff, it is a little more jarring. You're like,
- 30:23Speaker 2: this feels like it's time that you should know about
- 30:25Speaker 2: to break a hip.
- 30:26Speaker 1: Be careful out there.
- 30:28Speaker 2: Also born this Week nineteen forty eight, James Taylor, American
- 30:33Speaker 2: Grammy winning singer You've Got a Friend nineteen seventy one,
- 30:37Speaker 2: number one and Grammy and he wrote the lyrics for
- 30:41Speaker 2: Fire and Rain. I didn't know all of this, but
- 30:42Speaker 2: he wrote the lyrics for Fire and Rain after his
- 30:44Speaker 2: friend Suzanne Schneer committed suicide by jumping in front of
- 30:47Speaker 2: a New York subway train in nineteen sixty eight. Think
- 30:50Speaker 2: about the lyrics. It says he was in London recording
- 30:53Speaker 2: at the time. His band members did not tell him
- 30:55Speaker 2: of her death until later so as not to distract
- 30:57Speaker 2: him from the recording sessions.
- 30:58Speaker 1: Which that's kind of a tough time. Vision.
- 31:00Speaker 2: But I'm not sure the lyrics fron Range Just yesterday morning,
- 31:03Speaker 2: they'd let me know you were gone, Suzanne. The plans
- 31:05Speaker 2: they made put an end to you. Yeah, I've seen
- 31:08Speaker 2: fire and Rain. I've seen sunny days that I thought
- 31:10Speaker 2: would never end. Carol King, I didn't know this part.
- 31:12Speaker 2: This is kind of a fun footnote. Carol King wrote
- 31:15Speaker 2: her song You've Got a Friend in response to the
- 31:17Speaker 2: line I've seen lonely times when I could not find
- 31:19Speaker 2: a friend, and then he ended up recording that. Wait,
- 31:23Speaker 2: so you've got got a friend? You've got a friend
- 31:25Speaker 2: was Carol King, but she wrote it for him in
- 31:28Speaker 2: response to Wow, and she recorded it as well. Do
- 31:31Speaker 2: a live for Iron Raint, Yeah, and that's kind of
- 31:33Speaker 2: a fun, musical little friendship and kind of somebody reaching
- 31:37Speaker 2: out and saying yeah again. It's active listening, it's conversational.
- 31:40Speaker 3: It's like it's kind of like how ponscious pilates is
- 31:43Speaker 3: going to be your best joke someday.
- 31:46Speaker 1: And we were like, you know, you won't believe how
- 31:48Speaker 1: this came about. John.
- 31:49Speaker 2: This week eighteen ninety four, Coca Cola was first served
- 31:53Speaker 2: in bottles. The soft drink Coca Cola was invented by
- 31:58Speaker 2: John S. Pemberton and eighteen eighty six, who called it
- 32:01Speaker 2: quote esteamed brain tonic and intellectual beverage. Again, these are
- 32:05Speaker 2: good changes changed. It's all like, hey, can I get
- 32:09Speaker 2: one of those? Can I get a six pack of
- 32:11Speaker 2: the old esteamed brain tonic and intellectual beverage six pack?
- 32:15Speaker 2: Isn't that awful?
- 32:16Speaker 1: Uh? But yees?
- 32:17Speaker 2: So I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan of
- 32:18Speaker 2: co col You're a coke zero man that I'm not.
- 32:21Speaker 2: I would either want a regular coke, which I haven't
- 32:23Speaker 2: had in ages, because you just I can't do it.
- 32:27Speaker 2: I'd be three hundred pounds again no time. If I
- 32:29Speaker 2: drink as much coke as I drink diet coke. I'm
- 32:31Speaker 2: a diet coke man, even though I know it's just
- 32:33Speaker 2: full of chemicals, but come on, yeah.
- 32:35Speaker 1: We do. We do what we got.
- 32:36Speaker 2: Probably water's got chemicals in it too, That's all right, John. Finally,
- 32:40Speaker 2: this week in nineteen ninety four, the Lockness Monster hoax.
- 32:45Speaker 2: The famous nineteen thirty four surgeon's photo of the lockness monster,
- 32:49Speaker 2: which is the one everybody sees, the little black and
- 32:50Speaker 2: white green almost looks like a finger coming out of
- 32:53Speaker 2: the water.
- 32:53Speaker 1: But she're like, is it done?
- 32:56Speaker 2: Reportedly taken by Colonel Robert Wilson, is called a hoax
- 33:00Speaker 2: in a deathbed confession by Chris Sperling, who claimed he
- 33:03Speaker 2: helped create the photo. Wow, so he carried it all
- 33:06Speaker 2: the way to his deathbed in nineteen ninety four, at
- 33:09Speaker 2: which point he revealed it's a hoax.
- 33:11Speaker 1: Do you have anything that you would.
- 33:12Speaker 2: Say on your deathbed, like, because you want to have
- 33:14Speaker 2: famous last words, would you be like, hey, sorry about
- 33:18Speaker 2: I don't know. I wish i'd listen to Johnnymore.
- 33:23Speaker 1: Tell Johnny I'm sorry. I'll be like, what did it mean?
- 33:27Speaker 1: I'm just be haunted by it. Tell him I'm sorry
- 33:29Speaker 1: I stole his nuts. Die.
- 33:31Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know what it was used to be
- 33:32Speaker 2: the big gag as you say, like I buried the
- 33:34Speaker 2: money in the.
- 33:36Speaker 1: Just as a gag. Seriously, I'll bury the money. And no,
- 33:41Speaker 1: it's I don't think you're gonna have any regrets.
- 33:43Speaker 2: I think you're going to be that guy because you say,
- 33:46Speaker 2: you say too much, you're too aware of any tension
- 33:49Speaker 2: in a relationship, so you go the extra mile.
- 33:53Speaker 1: I try anything.
- 33:53Speaker 2: You make it weirder by being that guy. That's like overapologizing.
- 33:58Speaker 3: I have a couple of things in my life where
- 34:00Speaker 3: I have not been able to resolve them, and that's
- 34:02Speaker 3: been like an exercise in reality and also that I
- 34:08Speaker 3: can't I think through some therapy, like I'm sorry, I
- 34:12Speaker 3: can only own my fifty percent of this because in
- 34:14Speaker 3: my old days I would have owned all one hundred
- 34:16Speaker 3: to make peace, and now I'm like, yeah, I can't
- 34:19Speaker 3: do That's not good for either one of us. Don't
- 34:22Speaker 3: mind being wrong. I'm not surprised when I'm wrong, you know.
- 34:26Speaker 3: But we have to mutually meet somewhere in the middle,
- 34:28Speaker 3: you know so, And that's why I've called you back
- 34:31Speaker 3: to the podcast again today.
- 34:32Speaker 2: John is his deathbed right now and I wanted this
- 34:36Speaker 2: is his final had some weird pains, that'd be a
- 34:39Speaker 2: weird part of a weird part of the That's when
- 34:42Speaker 2: you know like we're through the looking glass as a culture.
- 34:44Speaker 2: If somebody wants to podcast from their deathbed, you're like, we.
- 34:47Speaker 1: Need to get this, hunt Ae. This will be great
- 34:50Speaker 1: for ratings.
- 34:51Speaker 2: Try.
- 34:53Speaker 1: We got sponsors.
- 34:54Speaker 2: It's the A one Greens, But I don't know if
- 34:56Speaker 2: it's going to work out. We can't say it's a
- 34:58Speaker 2: health tonic if we're on our death beds.
- 35:02Speaker 1: These work. I swear, guys, please every day all you do,
- 35:06Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 35:07Speaker 2: Well anyway, have a coke and a smile today, people,
- 35:09Speaker 2: Yeah on me celebrate the anniversary of Coca Cola and
- 35:14Speaker 2: bottles by going and having one. Do you like the
- 35:16Speaker 2: ones with the real sugar, the cane sugar. I think
- 35:18Speaker 2: they call the Mexican cokes because they're the ones that
- 35:19Speaker 2: still have the.
- 35:20Speaker 1: You don't like them?
- 35:21Speaker 2: I like them, but I want you're not freaking out.
- 35:23Speaker 1: Over coke zero manow cozier tastes like coke. I know
- 35:26Speaker 1: what's wrong with you? You want a coke that tastes
- 35:29Speaker 1: different than real coke. It tastes like garbage. I want
- 35:32Speaker 1: to coke. It tastes like real coke. Coke zero tastes
- 35:34Speaker 1: like flat coke, is what it does not taste like.
- 35:36Speaker 1: You know, if.
- 35:37Speaker 2: I gave you a drink of real coke and then
- 35:39Speaker 2: you drink coke zero, you'd be like, what, I don't think.
- 35:42Speaker 1: So this is something we need to do. We need
- 35:44Speaker 1: to do a taste test on the air, and you'd be.
- 35:46Speaker 3: Like I was, I mean, diet you could pick out
- 35:47Speaker 3: because I gotta do is you know, pay attention to
- 35:49Speaker 3: whose face is snarled for the horrible, horrible taste.
- 35:53Speaker 2: Oh, it's so refreshing. Although I am a doctor, pepper
- 35:55Speaker 2: zero man, that's my that's my true drink. But you
- 35:57Speaker 2: just can't get that everywhere. So in restaurant A lot
- 36:00Speaker 2: of times I'll have a die coke. Yeah, you can't
- 36:01Speaker 2: get a restaurant.
- 36:02Speaker 1: DP zero sugar. Man.
- 36:04Speaker 2: They're not a sponsor, but they should be. If they
- 36:06Speaker 2: ever wanted to send us a few twelve backs, Well,
- 36:07Speaker 2: let me tell you, I.
- 36:08Speaker 1: Would put one right here every show and I would
- 36:10Speaker 1: be drinking drinking it like nobody's watching, except they would
- 36:15Speaker 1: be so well listening anyway.
- 36:17Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, you guys should check out Johnny's website at
- 36:21Speaker 3: jo in niew dot com.
- 36:23Speaker 2: Listen, guys, my Live and Laughing tour is headed to
- 36:27Speaker 2: a city near you. And I wanted to say March
- 36:29Speaker 2: nineteenth will be in Destined. March twentieth we will be
- 36:34Speaker 2: in hold On Tallahassee is one of those dates. I
- 36:38Speaker 2: think that's the twenty first, twenty second we're in Gadsden, Alabama. Oh,
- 36:42Speaker 2: Pampao Beach, Florida is the twentieth of March. So please
- 36:46Speaker 2: get those tickets at JOHNNYW dot com.
- 36:48Speaker 1: You're dropping the bus. Come on out.
- 36:49Speaker 2: We're taking the bus and we're My buddy Brian Bates
- 36:52Speaker 2: is out with us from Nateland Fame. Yeah, one of
- 36:55Speaker 2: my great friends. And then Ed Wiley is out with us,
- 36:57Speaker 2: another good friend of money.
- 36:58Speaker 1: Guys.
- 36:59Speaker 2: These are fun shows. Yeah, these are fun and I'm excited.
- 37:01Speaker 2: It's just going to be us out there having the time.
- 37:04Speaker 2: So and I'm bringing scooters on the bus this week,
- 37:06Speaker 2: so we're gonna be scooting around our little lime scooters.
- 37:09Speaker 2: This is the first bus run where I'm putting those
- 37:11Speaker 2: under the bus. Be fun, be three fifty year olds
- 37:14Speaker 2: out here. Yeah, that's waiting to be broken.
- 37:17Speaker 1: No, we're good.
- 37:18Speaker 2: We have incredible balance. I can't believe it.
- 37:20Speaker 1: I can't believe it. That's no, Yeah, you shouldn't believe it.
- 37:23Speaker 3: You can check out more episodes too at talk about
- 37:25Speaker 3: that podcast dot com.
- 37:27Speaker 1: If you want to send us a message, you just
- 37:28Speaker 1: fire an email too.
- 37:29Speaker 2: Hello, talk about that podcast dot com.
- 37:32Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of episodes. In fact, I'm just
- 37:35Speaker 3: looking here three ninety. This is three nine.
- 37:39Speaker 1: Oh wow, this is three nine, guys, and nothing's gonna
- 37:42Speaker 1: happen at four hundred. It's anywhere. Well, but we're gonna
- 37:44Speaker 1: get We're gonna get the live one in place. Maybe
- 37:47Speaker 1: if I go out on the weekend with you, that'd
- 37:48Speaker 1: be a good place to do. We could record that
- 37:50Speaker 1: would be really fun. Yeah, we could make it a
- 37:52Speaker 1: little VIP.
- 37:52Speaker 2: Event as a part of the show, be like, hey,
- 37:54Speaker 2: do you guys want to stay back and do this
- 37:56Speaker 2: with us?
- 37:56Speaker 3: Yeah, they'd be like, we gotta get we got places
- 37:59Speaker 3: to be going. We thought this show was for.
- 38:01Speaker 2: Well, for food, and then they'll stay. We'll do like
- 38:03Speaker 2: a catered meal.
- 38:04Speaker 1: It's a good idea. Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad you said
- 38:07Speaker 1: cadd because we're not cooking. No.
- 38:08Speaker 3: Sorry, Well, guys, thanks the time you gave to Day.
- 38:11Speaker 3: It was a lot of fun. Let's do it again
- 38:12Speaker 3: next week.
- 38:13Speaker 1: You're on