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Spooky Houses, Old Pillows, and Leadership

John rents a haunted AirBnB and ponders podcasting from his deathbed. Meanwhile, Jonnie tries to be a better listener and discovers the terrifying reason he likes hotel pillows.

Plus, a conversation about what real leadership is… and what it isn't.

Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Sliced Bread: "It's the best thing since…bread."

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