Latest / What is Business Development? / Episode 77: BD-BOK...Chapter 12, Three Ways to Contact Prospects
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- 0:00Speaker 1: So if you're in business development, you know this feeling, right,
- 0:03Speaker 1: this constant tug of war between just sheer volume and
- 0:08Speaker 1: real precision.
- 0:09Speaker 2: It really is the fundamental question, isn't it. Do you
- 0:11Speaker 2: hammer the phones or do you take that time for
- 0:14Speaker 2: the deep thurgical approach?
- 0:16Speaker 1: Yeah, efficiency versus effectiveness and just guessing or doing what
- 0:20Speaker 1: you've always done. That's probably not cutting it anymore.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Definitely not. The market's too crowded for guesswork. So today
- 0:27Speaker 2: we're going beyond anecdotes. We've actually gathered some pretty solid data.
- 0:31Speaker 2: We're looking at studies from connect and Sell revenueo HBr
- 0:35Speaker 2: LinkedIn good stuff. Yeah, really trying to get hard numbers
- 0:38Speaker 2: on the main tactics cold, warm, and hot calling.
- 0:41Speaker 1: Right, So our mission here isn't just to read off stats.
- 0:45Speaker 1: We want to run the conversion calculus, as we're calling it,
- 0:48Speaker 1: exactly to give you, the listener a real strategic edge,
- 0:51Speaker 1: show you where the best ROI for your time might
- 0:53Speaker 1: be based on actual evidence and spoiler, there's no single
- 0:59Speaker 1: best way.
- 1:00Speaker 2: That's the crucial point. It really depends and the key
- 1:02Speaker 2: difference between these three methods boils down to one thing,
- 1:05Speaker 2: the prospects level of intent Okay, cold calling, that's unknown intent.
- 1:11Speaker 2: Warm calling works with perceived intent, and hot calling, well
- 1:16Speaker 2: that's the gold standard confirmed intent.
- 1:18Speaker 1: Understanding that difference is step one.
- 1:20Speaker 2: Basically, absolutely, which bucket therein changes everything.
- 1:24Speaker 1: Okay, so let's dive into that first bucket then, the
- 1:26Speaker 1: one most people start with, that high volume grind cold calling.
- 1:31Speaker 2: Ah, yes, interruption marketing.
- 1:32Speaker 1: Right, you're reaching out because someone fits your ideal customer profile,
- 1:36Speaker 1: your ICP or persona. But critically you have no real
- 1:41Speaker 1: idea if they're interested. Intent is totally unknown.
- 1:45Speaker 2: And the stats really lay bare. How tough this is.
- 1:48Speaker 2: Usually the goal isn't even to sell right away, it's
- 1:50Speaker 2: just to sell the meeting.
- 1:51Speaker 1: Exactly, get them into that next stage what we call
- 1:54Speaker 1: the activation phase.
- 1:55Speaker 2: Right, the activation phase meaning you know, getting them to
- 1:57Speaker 2: agree to a demo or maybe a proper needs assessment,
- 2:00Speaker 2: call something measurable.
- 2:01Speaker 1: So how hard is it to get that activation through
- 2:05Speaker 1: just interrupting someone's day? What do the numbers say?
- 2:08Speaker 2: Well, they're low, unequivocally low. W Connect and Cell did
- 2:12Speaker 2: a big study. They found only zero point two percent
- 2:15Speaker 2: of all cold calls actually booked a meeting.
- 2:17Speaker 1: Zero point two percent.
- 2:18Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one meeting for every five hundred calls. It's
- 2:21Speaker 2: purely a numbers game at that rate.
- 2:22Speaker 1: Wow, okay, point two percent is is brutal, but ang on.
- 2:26Speaker 1: We also looked at revenue dot io and they came
- 2:29Speaker 1: back with six percent six percent booking meetings. That's like
- 2:33Speaker 1: thirty times higher. How do we make sense of that difference?
- 2:37Speaker 2: That's a really important question. That gap, that point two
- 2:40Speaker 2: percent versus six percent, It tells us a couple of things. First,
- 2:43Speaker 2: it screams list quality matters a lot, and probably scripting too.
- 2:48Speaker 2: That six percent figure, it likely comes from really targeted list,
- 2:52Speaker 2: maybe using some intent data that makes it barely cold anymore.
- 2:55Speaker 1: Yeah, Rple's cool calling at that point kind of And.
- 2:58Speaker 2: The point two percent that's probably the reality. If you're
- 3:00Speaker 2: just using a huge, unrefined list and a generic script,
- 3:03Speaker 2: you're basically relying on luck. It means cold calling alone
- 3:06Speaker 2: isn't really sustainable. It's more like a filter, a very
- 3:09Speaker 2: expensive filter. Yeah, trying to find that one needle and
- 3:11Speaker 2: a massive haystack.
- 3:12Speaker 1: And that needle and haystack thing. That's why persistence is
- 3:15Speaker 1: so key. Here, HBr added another tough layer. Gather it.
- 3:18Speaker 1: They only ten percent of B to B decision makers
- 3:21Speaker 1: even respond to cold outreach, and then only five percent
- 3:24Speaker 1: of those conversations lead to an actual follow on meeting.
- 3:27Speaker 1: The funnel's just incredibly.
- 3:28Speaker 2: Narrow, exactly, it shrinks fast. But uh, there is a
- 3:32Speaker 2: glimmer of hope in the follow up data. The sources
- 3:35Speaker 2: all stress this follow up calls are vital.
- 3:38Speaker 1: How vital?
- 3:39Speaker 2: Well, persistence increases the meetings you book by one point
- 3:42Speaker 2: seven times, And if you look at meetings book per
- 3:44Speaker 2: total dials made including follow ups, that jumps up two
- 3:48Speaker 2: point three times.
- 3:49Speaker 1: So quitting after one dial is basically leaving more than
- 3:52Speaker 1: half the potential success behind.
- 3:53Speaker 2: Pretty much. Yeah, you have to follow up, but even.
- 3:55Speaker 1: With persistence getting tougher, isn't it Regulations are tightening people
- 3:58Speaker 1: of call screening AI gatekeepers.
- 4:00Speaker 2: Oh, definitely, the friction is increasing. Running a pure volume
- 4:03Speaker 2: play is getting harder and more expensive.
- 4:06Speaker 1: Which naturally leads us to well the next step up,
- 4:09Speaker 1: moving away from interruption towards more informed engagement.
- 4:14Speaker 2: Warm calling Exactly the bridge tactic.
- 4:16Speaker 1: This is where intent is perceived. They've done something right,
- 4:21Speaker 1: downloaded content, sign up for a newsletter, attended a webinar,
- 4:25Speaker 1: likes your stuff on social.
- 4:26Speaker 2: They've left you some digital breadcrumbs. This is where you
- 4:28Speaker 2: hear terms like social selling, conversational prospecting, community marketing. It's
- 4:33Speaker 2: all in this realm.
- 4:35Speaker 1: And the key is you're not starting completely cold.
- 4:38Speaker 2: Right, and the payoffs Statistically, it's noticeable the comparative success
- 4:42Speaker 2: rate moves up to medium. That revenue dot Io data
- 4:45Speaker 2: showed warm calling getting roughly double the success of cold calling,
- 4:49Speaker 2: about twelve percent of calls booked.
- 4:51Speaker 1: Meetings twelve percent versus that maybe six percent best case
- 4:54Speaker 1: for cold That's significant.
- 4:56Speaker 2: It is, and it really compounds if you build this
- 4:59Speaker 2: into your process. So that LinkedIn data was pretty stunning.
- 5:02Speaker 1: Yeah, tell us about that again.
- 5:04Speaker 2: Prospectors who really use social selling techniques they create forty
- 5:07Speaker 2: five percent more opportunities than their peers. They're fifty one
- 5:11Speaker 2: percent more likely to hit quarta fifty one percent. Maybe
- 5:14Speaker 2: the most striking, they out sell seventy eight percent of.
- 5:17Speaker 1: Their peers seventy eight percent.
- 5:18Speaker 2: Wow, it's huge. And it's not just about having a
- 5:21Speaker 2: better script when you call, it's the groundwork you've laid.
- 5:25Speaker 3: So what are the advantages specifically, Well, first awareness, the
- 5:29Speaker 3: prospect already knows your brand, so no costly outbound ads
- 5:33Speaker 3: needed for that initial intro, second, initial trust you're not
- 5:36Speaker 3: a random interruption.
- 5:37Speaker 2: And third you have an engagement profile. You have those.
- 5:40Speaker 1: Breadcrumbs so you can tailor the conversation. Yeah, show you've
- 5:44Speaker 1: actually paid attention exactly.
- 5:45Speaker 2: It proves you didn't just scrape their name off some
- 5:47Speaker 2: giant list.
- 5:48Speaker 1: This feels like a shift away from what some sources
- 5:51Speaker 1: call mercenary prospecting just transactional cold calls, towards missionary prospecting,
- 5:57Speaker 1: where the focus, the sort of north star, is always
- 6:01Speaker 1: delivering value, being buyer centric.
- 6:04Speaker 2: And that buyer focus explains why even though conversion is fire,
- 6:08Speaker 2: it's still resource intensive. We have to talk about the
- 6:10Speaker 2: forester five.
- 6:11Speaker 1: Yeah, a big number.
- 6:12Speaker 2: Prospects conduct on average twenty seven interactions with content and
- 6:16Speaker 2: prospectors before they actually signal purchase intent twenty seven.
- 6:20Speaker 1: Twenty seven. That really reframes the whole sale cycle, doesn't it.
- 6:24Speaker 1: It's not just one or two touches, not at all.
- 6:26Speaker 2: Think about it. Before they even talk to a sales rep,
- 6:29Speaker 2: they might watch a couple of webinars, read some case
- 6:33Speaker 2: studies like ten social posts, download seven different guides.
- 6:37Speaker 1: That's a lot of engagement to track.
- 6:38Speaker 2: Precisely which is why the warm outreach process isn't some
- 6:42Speaker 2: simple three step sequence.
- 6:44Speaker 1: It's more complex like that example sequence we saw.
- 6:46Speaker 2: It starts small, exactly low friction prospector follows the prospect
- 6:51Speaker 2: on LinkedIn. Prospect accepts, maybe offer some useful content next day,
- 6:56Speaker 2: not a sales pitch. Then you analyze the signals it click,
- 7:01Speaker 2: watch the whole thing right, analyze that intent. Then maybe
- 7:03Speaker 2: you propose a meeting. It's incremental trust building.
- 7:06Speaker 1: And managing all that. That's where adaptive marketing or behavior
- 7:09Speaker 1: marketing comes in.
- 7:10Speaker 2: Yes, you need a system something that tracks all those
- 7:13Speaker 2: signals across channels to figure out the next best action.
- 7:16Speaker 2: You really need omni channel automation here.
- 7:19Speaker 1: Because no human can manually track twenty seven touch points
- 7:22Speaker 1: across email, social, website exactly.
- 7:25Speaker 2: An email click might trigger a social ad or maybe
- 7:28Speaker 2: pin a salesperson for a timely personalized call. The goal
- 7:32Speaker 2: is just to add value at every single one of
- 7:34Speaker 2: those twenty seven steps make it worthwhile for the prospect.
- 7:37Speaker 1: Okay, so warm calling builds trust, but it takes time
- 7:40Speaker 1: and effort, which brings us to the final category where
- 7:43Speaker 1: trust and intent are basically handed to you. Hot calling.
- 7:47Speaker 2: Yeah, now we're talking peak efficiency. This is the race
- 7:50Speaker 2: against time.
- 7:51Speaker 1: Intent is confirmed. These are people who have actively raised
- 7:54Speaker 1: their hand, filled out a request demo form, maybe use
- 7:58Speaker 1: a chatbot asking for specifics. They've come through as a referral. Right.
- 8:01Speaker 2: The comparative success rate high. But and this is a
- 8:05Speaker 2: huge butt. Success hinges almost entirely on response time. Speed
- 8:08Speaker 2: kills here, or rather, lack of speed kills the deal.
- 8:12Speaker 1: Okay, let's hit that HBr SAT again, the one about
- 8:14Speaker 1: corporations responding to leads.
- 8:15Speaker 2: It's pretty damning. They survey thousands of US companies. Forty
- 8:19Speaker 2: seven percent took twenty four hours or more or just
- 8:21Speaker 2: never responded at all to a hot inbound lead.
- 8:24Speaker 1: Nearly half. That's just leaving money on the table, gold
- 8:27Speaker 1: in the streak, as you said.
- 8:28Speaker 2: Literally and the cost of that delay is catastrophic when
- 8:31Speaker 2: you see the impact of speed. This is the stat
- 8:34Speaker 2: every single bead person needs burned into their brain. Respond
- 8:38Speaker 2: within one hour. One hour and you are seven times
- 8:41Speaker 2: more likely to have a meaningful conversation with a decision maker.
- 8:45Speaker 2: Seven times. That's massive, and it gets even more dramatic.
- 8:49Speaker 2: Compare responding in an hour to waiting twenty four hours
- 8:52Speaker 2: or more. You are sixty times more successful. Sixty sixty times. Okay,
- 8:57Speaker 2: that changes everything.
- 8:58Speaker 1: It has to that number two. If an inbound lid
- 9:01Speaker 1: hits your desk, you stop whatever else you're doing. It's
- 9:03Speaker 1: not just a task, it's an emergency priority. That's the
- 9:06Speaker 1: time dividend in action.
- 9:08Speaker 2: And within hot calling, we have to talk about referrals.
- 9:10Speaker 2: They seem like the ultimate combination of high intent and
- 9:13Speaker 2: high quality.
- 9:14Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, Andrew Z. Brown's research really backs this up.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Referred leads they have fifty nine percent higher lifetime value LTV.
- 9:21Speaker 2: Fifty nine percent higher value over the customer lifetime Wow.
- 9:24Speaker 1: And they smooth out the process internally too. Sixty nine
- 9:27Speaker 1: percent of companies say referrals shorten their sale cycle. Seventy
- 9:30Speaker 1: one percent find these leads have a higher PWI in
- 9:32Speaker 1: probability of win, so they close faster and more often.
- 9:35Speaker 2: Exactly higher LTV, shorter cycles, higher win rate plus. Seventy
- 9:40Speaker 2: four percent of companies say referrals are their cheapest way
- 9:43Speaker 2: to get new business.
- 9:44Speaker 1: High intend, high value, low cost. You can't beat that.
- 9:48Speaker 2: It's the trifecta. But just a small caution, even with
- 9:51Speaker 2: a hot lead, especially a referral, take like two minutes
- 9:56Speaker 2: do a quick LinkedIn check, maybe ping the person who referred.
- 9:59Speaker 1: Them right speed it is key, but don't go in
- 10:01Speaker 1: totally block exactly.
- 10:02Speaker 2: Make sure that first call still delivers maximum value. Confirm
- 10:05Speaker 2: their intent, cater to it.
- 10:06Speaker 1: Okay, fantastic. Yeah, so let's try and synthesize all of this.
- 10:10Speaker 1: Boil down this conversion calculus into maybe the top three
- 10:13Speaker 1: takeaways for our listeners.
- 10:15Speaker 2: Sounds good. Take one Number one has to be the
- 10:17Speaker 2: core principle. Intent defines strategy, right, There's no single best tactic.
- 10:21Speaker 2: It depends entirely on the prospect status. Unknown intent you
- 10:25Speaker 2: grind knowing the odds like that point two percent perceived
- 10:28Speaker 2: intent you nurture, You build trust through those twenty seven interactions.
- 10:33Speaker 2: Confirmed intent you act fast, urgently.
- 10:35Speaker 1: Makes perfect sense.
- 10:36Speaker 2: Okay.
- 10:36Speaker 1: Take away number two, let's.
- 10:37Speaker 2: Call it the warm bridge. Warm calling demands resources. Yes,
- 10:41Speaker 2: remember those twenty seven interactions, but it offers huge leverage.
- 10:45Speaker 2: Why because prospectors who master this, they build that initial
- 10:49Speaker 2: trust before the hard cell even starts. That's why they
- 10:51Speaker 2: hit quota more often, create more opportunities. It provides long
- 10:55Speaker 2: term benefits. Cold calling just can't replicate.
- 10:57Speaker 1: Okay, building trust pays to it ends, Yeah, got it.
- 11:01Speaker 1: And the third takeaway.
- 11:02Speaker 2: It has to be about speed. The time dividend, especially
- 11:05Speaker 2: for hot leads. Time is literally money, or maybe sixty
- 11:09Speaker 2: times the money.
- 11:10Speaker 1: That's sixty x Stata again.
- 11:11Speaker 2: Yeah, the sixty x better success rate for responding in
- 11:14Speaker 2: an hour versus waiting a day or more. It proves
- 11:17Speaker 2: immediate action beats trying to get everything perfect before you call.
- 11:21Speaker 2: When intent is confirmed speed Trump's.
- 11:23Speaker 1: Polish execute immediately, got it? Intent, The warm bridge investment,
- 11:27Speaker 1: and the time dividend for hot leads great takeaways.
- 11:30Speaker 2: So thinking about all this, it raises a final question,
- 11:33Speaker 2: maybe something for everyone listening to chew on.
- 11:35Speaker 1: Okay, let's hear it.
- 11:35Speaker 2: If prospecting is moving towards this dynamic adaptive marketing model
- 11:40Speaker 2: where every little signal, every one of those twenty seven
- 11:43Speaker 2: interactions matters, how well are you actually using automation right now?
- 11:49Speaker 2: How effectively are you tracking all those touch points to
- 11:51Speaker 2: make sure your team is delivering the absolute maximum value
- 11:54Speaker 2: at every single step? Are you set up to capitalize
- 11:57Speaker 2: on that warm bridge and that time dividend.
- 12:00Speaker 1: That's a powerful thought to end on. Really challenges us
- 12:03Speaker 1: to look at our systems.
- 12:04Speaker 2: Definitely something to consider.
- 12:05Speaker 1: Well, this has been incredibly insightful. Thank you for digging
- 12:08Speaker 1: into these numbers with us today, and thank you for
- 12:11Speaker 1: joining us for this deep dive