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Tried and Tested Podcast
Welcome to PSI’s Tried and Tested Podcast, hosted by Isabelle Gonthier. Tune in every other Thursday for expert conversations on testing, credentialing, and assessment. Each episode explores industry trends, practical insights, and the real work behind high stakes testing, featuring leaders and practitioners shaping the future of the assessment industry.
Episodes
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Rethinking School Assessment at Scale with CISCE’s Dr. Joseph Emmanuel
In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier, PhD-ICE-CCP, speaks with Dr. Joseph Emmanuel, Chief Executive and Secretary of the Council for the…
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Inside the Entrust Fraud Lab: The Evolution of Identity Fraud in Testing
In this special episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier, PhD, ICE-CCP visits the Entrust Fraud Lab for a closer look at how identity fraud is…
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What Environmental, Social and Governance (ESG) Means for Assessment: Social Value, Access, and Impact
In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier, PhD, ICE-CCP speaks with Matthew Barrell, Environmental, Social, and Governance Manager at PSI…
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Reaching the Future Workforce: Messaging, Value, and Candidate Demand with NBCOT’s Angela Macauley
In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier, PhD, ICE-CCP, speaks with Angela Macauley, PMP, President and CEO of the National Board for…
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From School to Skills: Rethinking Assessment, Credentials, and Workforce Readiness with Chad Buckendahl
In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier, PhD, ICE-CCP speaks with Chad Buckendahl, PhD, ICE-CCP, Managing Partner at ACS Ventures, about…
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Start Small, Build Trust, Scale Up: WPI’s Approach to AI in Credentialing
In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier, PhD, ICE-CCP speaks with Haley Vanness, CAE, ICE-CCP, CMP, AAiP, Vice President of Water…
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Taking the Future of Credentialing from Conversation to Practice with Pam Young Brown
In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier, PhD, ICE-CCP speaks with Pam Young Brown, a product strategy consultant working at the…
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AI and the New Challenges Facing Educational Testing with UMass Amherst’s Stephen Sireci
In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier, PhD, ICE-CCP speaks with Stephen G. Sireci, Ph.D., Distinguished Professor and Executive Director…
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Global Learning, AI, and the Future of Workforce Readiness with Maria Spies of HolonIQ and QS
In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier, PhD, ICE-CCP, speaks with Maria Spies, Co-Founder of HolonIQ and Chief Innovation Officer at QS…
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From Point-in-Time Testing to Continuous Certification: Insights with NBCRNA’s Tim Muckle
In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier, PhD, ICE-CCP, speaks with Tim Muckle, PhD, ICE-CCP, Chief Assessment Officer at the National Board…
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What AI Changes About Assessment Evidence: Insights with Khan Academy’s Kristen DiCerbo
In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier, PhD, ICE-CCP, speaks with Dr. Kristen DiCerbo, Chief Learning Officer at Khan Academy and one of…
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Test Security, Agentic AI, and the Future of Assessment with Paul Muir from risr/
As assessment programs confront increasingly sophisticated fraud and rapid advances in Artificial Intelligence, protecting trust and integrity has never been…
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Serious Games and Authentic Assessment with Jenn McNamara from BreakAway Games
In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier, PhD,- ICE CCP, Chief Assessment Officer at PSI and ETS, sits down with Jenn McNamara, Vice…
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Libby Rodney from The Harris Poll on the 2026 ETS Human Progress Report: Adaptability, Credentials & Opportunity
This is our 50th episode of Tried & Tested and we’re marking the milestone with a conversation about what may be one of the biggest questions facing the…
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Closing the Modality Gap: How TOEFL Built Trust in Remote Testing
As questions around remote testing and test security continue to surface across the assessment landscape, how can programs move beyond perception and focus on…
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Policy, Partnership, and Access: Massachusetts’ Approach to Adult Education
In this special HiSET edition of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier, PhD, ICE-CCP welcomes vice president of the HiSET program Tanya Guerrero Haug, who…
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The Future of Graduate Admissions and Assessment: Insights from GMAC’s Ashok Sarathy
In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier, PhD, ICE-CCP, speaks with Ashok Sarathy, Vice President of Assessment Products at GMAC, about the…
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Reimagining Performance-Based Assessment with Immersive Simulation: A Conversation with SentiraXR’s Jeremy Carter
In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier, PhD, ICE-CCP, speaks with Jeremy Carter, CEO of SentiraXR, about immersive simulations and the…
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The Rising Threat of Biometric Fraud: Insights with Entrust’s Ian Cartledge
In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier, PhD, ICE-CCP speaks with Ian Cartledge from Entrust about identity verification and the evolving…
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The Future of Digital Assessment: Innovation, AI & Sustainability with Geoff Chapman
Discover how digital assessment is evolving through innovation, AI, and sustainable design in this conversation with EdTech consultant Geoff Chapman. What…
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Building Connection and the Business Value of HR Certification
In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier is joined live from the I.C.E. Conference by Amy Schabacker Dufrane, Ed.D., SPHR, CAE, CEO of HRCI®…
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2026 Predictions: What’s Next for Assessment, AI, and Test Security with Janet Garcia
In this forward-looking episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier is joined by Janet Garcia, CEO of PSI and President of ETS, for a timely…
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Reflecting Forward: 2025 Highlights from Tried and Tested
In this special episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier opens the new year with a curated look back at the most meaningful moments from the…
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Evolving Competency Models to Shape the Future of Certification
In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier sits down with Tony Ellis, Executive Director of the Oncology Nursing Certification Corporation…
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Reimagining Smart Exam Development with Anna Rubin from Cisco
In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier, PSI’s Chief Assessment Officer, sits down at the Conference on Test Security (COTS) with Anna…
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Exploring Workplace English Assessment with Ratnesh Kumar Jha
In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier sits down at ETS headquarters in Princeton, New Jersey with Ratnesh Kumar Jha, General Manager of…
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Transforming Professional Education: AI, Innovation, and the Future of Learning with Ian Browne
In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier sits down with Ian Browne, Director of Education at Chartered Accountants Ireland, to explore how…
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Beyond Multiple Choice: How In-Application Testing and AI Are Redefining Digital Skills with Brian Donovan
Tried and Tested host Isabelle Gonthier sits down with Brian Donovan, General Manager of SkillsBox and the ICDL Foundation, to explore how innovation is…
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Rethinking Maintenance of Certification: Innovation, Culture, and the Future of Credentialing with Dale Cyr
In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier sits down with Dale Cyr, Chief Executive Officer and Executive Director of Inteleos, to explore how…
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Reimagining Assessment: Research, Skills, and the Future of Testing with Dr. Lydia Liu
In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier sits down with Dr. Lydia Liu, Associate Vice President at the ETS Research Institute, to explore…
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Safeguarding Exam Integrity: Combating Commercial Cheating with Rachel Schoenig
In this thought-provoking episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier sits down with Rachel Schoenig, founder and CEO of Cornerstone Strategies and…
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The Power and Promise of Micro Credentials: Flexible Learning for a Changing World with Johnna Gueorguieva
In this energizing episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier sits down with Johnna Georgieva, Senior Psychometrician and Director of Assessments at…
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Breaking the Mold: Rethinking Assessment in the Age of AI with Tim Burnett and Matt Wingfield
In this special episode of Tried and Tested, recorded live in London during the E-Assessment Association Conference, host Isabelle Gonthier sits down with two…
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Future-Ready Credentialing: Innovation, AI, and the ISACA Strategy with Kim Cohen
In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier welcomes Kim Cohen, Vice President of Credentialing at ISACA, for a deep dive into the future of…
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Driving Value Through Certification: Insights from the Automotive Industry with Rebecca Sutter
What does it take to prove the value of certification in a changing industry, and how do you reconnect with a new generation of workers who aren’t convinced…
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Elevating Test Integrity and Access in Veterinary Credentialing with Amy Farmer
In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier sits down with Amy Farmer, Senior Director of Mobility at the American Association of Veterinary…
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Raising the Bar in Emergency Nursing: Inside BCEN’s Bold Vision with Janie Schumaker
In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier sits down with Janie Schumaker, CEO of the Board of Certification for Emergency Nursing (BCEN), to…
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More Than a Credential: The Human Side of Nursing Certification
In this powerful episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier sits down at the ABNS Conference with two influential voices in the nursing certification…
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Empowering Adult Learners: Inside New Mexico’s Adult Education Movement
In this inspiring episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier sits down at the COABE Conference with two powerhouse leaders in adult education from New…
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Navigating the Global Credentialing Landscape with Sierra Hampton-Simmons
In this special Tried and Tested episode recorded live at the ATP conference in Orlando, host Isabelle Gonthier, Chief Assessment Officer at PSI, sits down…
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Beyond Job Task Analysis: How Competency Modeling is Transforming Credentialing with Dr. Manny Straehle
In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier, PhD, ICE-CCP sits down with Dr. Manny Straehle, President and Founder of Assessment, Education…
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The Power of Public Awareness in Certification with Kevin Keller
What makes a voluntary certification truly valuable? In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier sits down with Kevin Keller, CEO of the CFP…
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Modernizing Assessment with Innovation and Change with NCARB
In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier sits down with Jared Zurn, Senior Vice President of Programs at the National Council of…
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Rebranding for Impact: The Journey of Water Professionals International with Paul Bishop
How does a credentialing organization rebrand successfully while maintaining trust, legacy, and mission alignment? In this episode of Tried and Tested, host…
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Embedding Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion in Assessment with Helen Coleman
In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier, Chief Assessment Officer at PSI, sits down with Helen Coleman, Chief Operating Officer at ABRSM…
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Episode 19: Special Edition Episode: Shaping the Future of Credentialing and Assessment Security
In this special live episode of Tried and Tested, recorded at the inaugural Credentialing Leaders Summit in Miami Beach, host Isabelle Gonthier dives into the…
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Psychometricians in the Age of AI: Evolving Roles and Opportunities with Ada Woo
Join Tried and Tested host, Isabelle Gonthier, as she sits down with Ada Woo, VP of Innovative Learning and Assessment Solutions at Ascend Learning, for an…
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The AI Revolution in Assessment: Innovation, Equity, and the Future of Testing with Jim Harris
In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier, Chief Assessment Officer at PSI, sits down with Jim Harris, #1 international bestselling author…
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Transforming Test Development with AI joined by guest Dr. Yermie Cohen
In episode 16 of the Tried and Tested podcast, host Isabelle Gonthier, Chief Assessment Officer at PSI Services, sits down with Yermie Cohen, CEO of Memorang…
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The Value of Certification: Empowering Professionals in Healthcare and Beyond
In Episode 15 of the Tried and Tested podcast, host Isabelle Gonthier is joined by Ginger Marshall, CEO for Hospice and Palliative Nursing Association (HPNA)…
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Balancing Innovation and Integrity: AI's Role in Test Security and Legal Implications with Marc Weinstein
In Episode 14 of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier, Chief Assessment Officer at PSI, sits down with Marc Weinstein, Managing Attorney at MJ Weinstein…
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The Future of Assessment: A Conversation with Amit Sevak, CEO of ETS
In this exclusive episode of the Tried and Tested Podcast, host Isabelle Gonthier, sits down with Amit Sevak, the visionary CEO of ETS, to explore the future…
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Engaging Test Takers: Social Media Strategies That Work with Lori Tinkler
Join us for Episode 12 of the Tried and Tested podcast where host Isabelle Gonthier, Chief Assessment Officer at PSI, sits down with Lori Tinkler, CEO of The…
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The Evolving Role of Psychometricians in the Age of Tech and AI
In this insightful episode, host Isabelle Gonthier, Chief Assessment Officer at PSI, sits down with Liberty Munson, Director of Psychometrics at Microsoft, to…
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The Impact of Going Global for Credentialing Programs with Frank Perna, NAHQ
In this episode of the Tried and Tested podcast, Isabelle-, is joined by Frank Perna, Director of Certification at the National Association for Healthcare…
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Exploring the Future of AI in Assessment with Kara McWilliams
Join us for episode 9 of the Tried and Tested podcast with host Isabelle Gonthier, PhD, ICE-CCP and special guest Kara McWilliams, PhD. Kara is the Vice…
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The Value of Accreditation with Ibi Layi-Ojo and Denise Roosendaal
In this episode of the Tried and Tested podcast, host Isabelle Gonthier is joined by Ibi Layi-Ojo, Director of Examinations at CFP Board and Denise Roosendaal…
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Rising Stars in Credentialing: Celebrating NextGen Award Winners Jessica Dangles & Pamela Ing
Join host Isabelle Gonthier, PhD, ICE-CCP in this special episode of Tried and Tested as she chats with the winners of the 2023 ICE NextGen Professional Award…
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Navigating Lifelong Learning: Insights and Innovations with Sae Schatz
In this episode of Tried & Tested, we dive deep with Sae Schatz, a visionary in the field of lifelong learning. Sae discusses the transformative role of…
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Navigating Change in High-Stakes Testing with the FAA
Join us for Episode 5 of the Tried and Tested podcast with Ryan Smith from the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), and host Isabelle Gonthier and Sean…