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Chaos and Creativity
Musician Kimi Recor and writer/director Lou Lesko bring you conversations with the outliers and outlaws of the creative industries.
Twice a month Kimi and Lou discuss the creative industries through the lens of their experiences and interviews with independent musicians, filmmakers, photographers, writers, and artists.
Chaos and Creativity is produced by Cheramie Johnson and edited by Alexandra Covey, with music by Kieran Kerwin.
Episodes
Chaos and CreativityBattling Hollywood to Save It: The One with Paul Fischer
In 1977 I was third in line for the first showing of Star Wars on its opening day at the Coronet theater in San Francisco. It was the first time I had ever…
Chaos and CreativityFlea Bag and Other Originals in the Time of AI Slop
It’s a classic Kimi and Lou episode of best laid plans. They start by talking about how professional creatives are now digital janitors to AI slop, then…
Chaos and CreativityDorothy Robbins: A State of Musical Being
I’ll admit to having a ridiculously pedestrian perception of classical music artists. Pianists specifically. Call it lack of direct exposure, or maybe too much…
Chaos and CreativityMood Triggers
We’ve all been there. Stuck in traffic, running late, woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Caught a mood from somebody else. Barista didn’t quite get your…
Chaos and CreativityRemembering the Art of Gathering
If you look at map of Los Angeles, you’ll see where I used to live on Kittyhawk Avenue is in close proximity the airport. There was a hide-a-key near the back…
Chaos and CreativityThe Art of Sound Part 3: Open Up Your Ears
It’s three o’clock in the afternoon. I’ve just arrived home from another sophomore day at a new high school I started attending only a few weeks earlier…
Chaos and CreativityFair (and Unfair) Trade: Giving It Away for Free
In this week’s minisode: Lou offers to write a treatment for a screenplay with a spectacular premise and a really good story. Kimi randomly gets cast in a…
Chaos and CreativityThe Art of Sound, Part 2: - A World of Sound All in Your Head
Until I met three time academy award nominee Tom Myers, it never crossed my mind that a blank page to a writer is total silence to a sound designer. That…
Chaos and CreativityThe Art of Sound, Part 1: It’s Simple – You Just Have to Listen
Close your eyes. Listen. Which sounds are soothing? Which ones drive you up a tree? Currently, outside my house there’s a mocking bird that’s making me a…
Chaos and CreativityEverything Feels Legit
Big changes are afoot at Chaos & Creativity, as our long time producer and good friend Claire Duncan moseys down the road of life to her next big thing. We…
Chaos and CreativityWe Don't Have to Be Good at Everything
In this episode, Lou shares about a do-it-yourself project that flopped, revealing that 1) acoustics is an art form, and 2) he's terrible at acoustics. So Lou…
Chaos and CreativityWill Waterworth: Cinematic Photography & Storytelling
This week on Chaos & Creativity, we’re joined by photographer and visual artist William Waterworth. His work feels like scenes from an old film — dark…
Chaos and CreativityThe Truth About Making Money as an Artist
Do you have to choose between being cool and being rich? In this episode, we talk about what it feels like to be creative right now. There’s so much content…
Chaos and CreativityAnnicka Ekvall: Music, Connection & Becoming a Mom
In this episode, Kimi and Lou sit down with Annicka Ekvall, a Swedish-American DJ and producer making major waves in the minimal melodic house scene. Closely…
Chaos and CreativityHow to Take Criticism as a Creative
How do you handle criticism when you are deeply connected to your work? In this episode, Lou and Kimi talk about what it really feels like to receive feedback…
Chaos and CreativityKieran Kerwin: The Creative Process Behind Electronic Music
In this episode, we talk all things music, DJ culture, and the creative process behind electronic music with rising DJ and producer Kieran Kerwin. Before the…
Chaos and CreativityOrganized Chaos: How Creatives Stay on Track
In this mini episode, Kimi and Lou talk about why staying organized is honestly one of the most important parts of being a creative professional. When you're…
Chaos and CreativityMichael Alan Ross: Porsche Outlaws
In this episode, we talk with Michael Alan Ross, photographer, author of Porsche Outlaws: Stuttgart Hot Rods, and longtime creative professional. Michael…
Chaos and CreativityMore Chaos, More Creativity
We’re kicking off the new year with some exciting announcements and big things ahead for the Chaos & Creativity universe. This year, we’re thrilled to…
Chaos and CreativityThe 12 Days of Christmas, Creative Edition
We’ve made it to our last episode of the year and the season one finale. To close things out, Lou and Kimi are sharing 12 things they’ve been loving lately…
Chaos and CreativityYour Inner Creative Cast with Kimi and Lou
Kimi and Lou explore the different “characters” we step into throughout our lives — the versions of ourselves that show up in different moments, relationships…
Chaos and CreativityJeff Burkhart: From Twenty Years Behind Bars to Tale of a Barfly
Join Lou and Jeff Burkhart, award-winning writer, bartender, and columnist for the Marin Independent Journal, as they dive behind the scenes of Tale of a…
Chaos and CreativityBitchsode: Remastering Art
Kimi and Lou are back with their well-deserved opinions in this week’s minisode or what we’re now calling bitchsodes. When Amazon quietly erased guns from…
Chaos and CreativityJoe Ingham: Behind the Scenes of Development
Lou heads to London to chat with Joe Ingham, an award-winning producer and filmmaker who works in development and production across both the UK and US. Joe has…
Chaos and CreativityOverproduction: AI, YouTube, and Creativity
In this mini-episode, Lou and Kimi talk about YouTube running AI filters over videos, without creators asking for it. Has AI ever automatically edited your…
Chaos and CreativityNatalie Lennard on Identity and Creation
In this episode, Kimi and Lou sit down with award-winning visual artist Natalie Lennard, also known as self-portraitist Miss Aniela, and surreal fashion…
Chaos and CreativityThe Age of AI
In this minisode, Kimi and Lou dive into the fascinating and sometimes unsettling world of AI. Sparked by the appearance of an AI model in Vogue, they explore…
Chaos and CreativityAva Roy: 25 Years of Theater Without Walls
In this episode, Lou and Kimi sit down with Ava Roy who is celebrating her 25 years at We Players, a theater company that brings productions to life in…
Chaos and CreativityIs Content the New Spam?
Join Lou and Kimi for a conversation that’s been on our minds lately: Is content the new spam? With so much noise on social media, AI-generated posts, recycled…
Chaos and CreativityTerri d'Ambrosio: Behind the Scenes with a Music Supervisor
Have you ever watched a movie and thought, “This song is perfect for this scene?” That’s the work of a music supervisor, and in this episode, Kimi and Lou talk…
Chaos and CreativityFinding the Story Within Your Origin Story
In this mini episode, Lou and Kimi revisit the story behind Chaos and Creativity and reflect on the power of origin stories. The ones that are messy. The ones…
Chaos and CreativityTracy Marcellino Aubert: All In, Always
This week Lou catches up with Tracy Marcellino-Aubert in LA, chef, artist, and creative force of nature. We first met Tracy at the Creative Supper Club in New…
Chaos and Creativity9 to 5s & Side Hustles: Redefining Creative Careers
In this episode of Chaos and Creativity, Kim and Lou explore the generational divide in the creative world and how it affects everything from career choices to…
Chaos and CreativityMarco d'Ambrosio: Music That Tells the Story
In this episode, we dive into the creative world of Marco D’Ambrosio, musical composer and owner of MarcoCo Music & Sound Art. Marco has spent his career…
Chaos and CreativityJaron Presant: Commit to Your Artform
Join us in Greenpoint, Brooklyn, for a deep dive into the creative mind of Jaron Presant, veteran DP and one of the cinematographers behind the latest season…
Chaos and CreativityLouis Posen: The Mainstream is Overrated
Join Lou for an inspiring chat with Louis Posen, record producer and founder of Hopeless Records. Louis exposes his brilliant music brain with a personal dive…
Chaos and CreativityLani Tice: Living in the Chaos
Lani Tice is a Zen master in one of the most chaotic subgenres of the marketing world. She leads the brand ambassador program at Every Man Jack, serving as the…
Chaos and Creativitywe Love you LA
The fires in LA left us shocked and dismayed. We're checking in to let you know we're all good and forging ahead. We love you LA. Learn more & donate to the…
Chaos and CreativityCoco Wolf: Everyone Starts at the Bottom
Coco Wolf quite literally rose from the couch as an uninspired teenager to become an executive producer at Making Pictures, London, in just over a decade. With…
Chaos and CreativityCaydie McCumber: A Scary Thing Called Art
Photographer, Director, and Founder Caydie McCumber is here for a candid conversation about how her art is deeply influenced by the things that frighten her…