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The State Between Us
My name is Fritz McAlinden and this is The State Between Us, the anti-fascist podcast for dark dives into the ruling class insanity and fashy political cultures as well as our defenses against them through mutual aid and building each other up, sharing knowledge, and connecting the disparate voices in our overlapping struggles. Also TTRPGs, Sci-Fi, and other nerd shit. Let's get weird with it!
Episodes
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42. Púcaí, Banshees, and MI5: A Proper Samhain w/ Pádraig Óg Ó Ruairc
Anti-fascist historian Pádraig Óg Ó Ruairc returns to the show to share the indigenous Irish origins of Halloween. He gives us the lowdown on púcaí forest…
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41. Lore Dump Halloween Edition: From KKKardashians to the Tempel ov Blood
Fritz follows a century of sticky historical webs connecting today's Nazi Satanic Vampires with the Pentecostal patrons of the early Revival movement…
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40. "It's Killing Me. I Cannot Handle It": The Struggle of Rail Workers in Slovakia w/ Nina Nix
Friend of the show, Nina Nix, introduces the hellish struggle of train workers in Slovakia to wrestle their dignity back from capitalist labor pressure and a…
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39. A History of Anarchism in China p.2: Good Guy Theory w/ Laura
In the second half of Laura's two-part history of anarchism in China, they tell the story of the Tokyo and Guangzhou factions, anarchist feminism, the…
The State Between Us38. A History of Anarchism in China p.1: Paris Tofu Grinder w/ Laura
Laura rejoins The State Between Us to tell the story of anarchism in China from the late-19th century through the early 20th. Though largely forgotten today…
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37. Marquis de Morès Fails into Fascism, or, Real Nazis Wear Cowboy Hats [TEASER]
Before the fash wore black shirts, they wore Buffalo Bill dusters and cowboy hats. This is the absurd story of Marquis de Morès, a 19th century French…
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36. Another Biggest Lie: Six centuries of anti-Roma oppression in Europe, condensed.
Following a recent attack against a Roma settlement in Slovakia, TSBU assembles an introductory primer on Europe's genocidal treatment of Roma people over the…
The State Between Us"The Biggest Lie": The Southern Roots of American Fascism w/ Joseph Kelly [TRAILER]
FULL FREE EPISODE at patreon.com/TheStateBetweenUs Author Joseph Kelly joins Fritz to discuss his new book, The Biggest Lie: The Prehistory of American…
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34. "The Biggest Lie": The Southern Roots of American Fascism w/ Joseph Kelly
Author Joseph Kelly joins Fritz to discuss his new book, The Biggest Lie: The Prehistory of American Fascism, 1818-1915 (Bloomsbury, 2026), and explains how…
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33. World-Historical Mischief w/ Marcus Rediker
Fritz's favorite historian, Marcus Rediker, joins The State Between Us to unearth long-lost nautical stories of bold and brilliant people liberating themselves…
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32. Pranking Fascists in the Salvadoran Civil War w/ Sal Ibarra of Widows of the Night
Fritz's old friend, Salvador Ibarra of the new anti-fascist rock band Widows of the Night, joins the show to discuss his childhood during the brutal civil war…
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31. Collapse and the Communist Core w/ Richard Hames of Novara Media
Stepping away for a moment from his Novara Media series, Do Your Own Research, Richard Hames joins Fritz to explain the study of "Critical Collapsology" and…
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29. Revenge of the WASP II: UFOs and that Old-Money Woo
Fritz, still worried about what Tucker Carlson and JD Vance have in store for the post-MAGA right, uncovers the old WASP spiritual foundations of the American…
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28. Class War and Counterinsurgency in Appalachia: The '84 Massey Coal Strike w/ Ashley Nguyen
From 1984 to '85, both sides of the Tug Fork river on the West Virginia / Kentucky border were occupied by private security forces, green berets, mercenaries…
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27. May Day, 1950: When the USSR Invaded Wisconsin w/ Nick Graf
Researcher Nick Graf joins The State Between Us to talk about the strangest May Day celebration the Midwestern United States ever had. In 1950, the American…
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26. Lore Dump: Robert Welch, Revilo P. Oliver, and Willis Carto vs. Buckley's New Right
As Tucker Carlson splits the Right into weirder and more racist directions, TSBU examines a precedent to this contemporary moment occurring in the 1950s and…
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25. Revenge of the WASP pt. 1: The Tucker Diaries
25. Revenge of the WASP pt. 1: The Tucker Diaries Fritz fears the rise of the post-Trump right, arguing that a fashy new take on the White Anglo-Saxon…
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24. Bircherized Trad-Cath Fash-Fic: AA-1025 [trailer]
[Trailer] Fritz analyzes a Trad-Cath classic, and is inspired to try his own hand at the genre. Written by a Carmelite nun in 1972, the novel AA-1025: The…
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23. The News Rug II: The TFP's Favorite Marine and Iran Triggers the Dispensationalists
In TSBU's second edition of the News Rug, Fritz rips up the carpet on two recent U.S. press stories to track the long history of bad trouble underneath them…
The State Between Us21. Smedley Butler and the Invention of America w/ Jonathan M. Katz
Author and Journalist Jonathan M. Katz joins TSBU to turn the Smedley Dial up to 'Maximum Smedliness' by discussing Butler's formative role in the creation of…
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20. The National Association of Manufacturers: Pullman Town, Festoons, and Corporatism
Finally laying out the origins of the National Association of Manufacturers, TSBU looks at the tactics by Capital to shape the American political economy into…
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19. Western Goals pt. 2: John K. Singlaub and his Cubitmaxxing Contras - feat. Keith Allen Dennis
Hooooo boy... Keith Allen Dennis drops by once more to help Fritz tell a darkly fantastical tale about a little weird looking dude who specialized in leaping…
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5. News Rug: Christ for Nations, the Klan, and the Freaky Faith behind the Minnesota Shooting [trailer]
Fritz takes a peek under the disgusting rug of the news and finds a long historical chain of apocalyptic lunatics and klansmen crawling underneath the recent…
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8. Left Behind Fanzine Issue #1-of-1: Tim LaHaye, the CNP, and the New Right Rapture [trailer]
For true fans of the over-a-decade-long Christian fiction series, Left Behind, and it's apocalypse addicted author, Tim LaHaye. Follow Timmy's political and…
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11. Mister: Unreadable Fash Fic from the Unbearable Alt-Right [trailer]
Fritz digs even deeper into the cultural crater left by the Regnery family with the unending Fash Fic novel, Mister, written in 2009 by soon-to-be Alt-Right…
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16. The Bread-winners: Red Scare Mid-life Crisis Fiction from the 19th Century [trailer]
Fritz, following some leads in episode 15, picks up a novel written by turn-of-the-century Secretary of State, John Hay: The Bread-winners (1884). The book…
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18. David Simon's 'The Plot Against America' w/ Bursts of The Final Straw [trailer]
Bursts of The Final Straw joins Fritz to reflect on the HBO miniseries created by David Simon (Homicide, The Wire, etc.), The Plot Against America (2020)…
The State Between Us17. Western Goals pt. 1: John Rees and Larry McDonald Scam Against Communism
TSBU begins their study on the early-1980s information clearinghouse and private surveillance organization, Western Goals, focusing on two of its founders: the…
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15. The American Race, or, "What time is this?"
TSBU breaks ground on its study of Americanism and American Fascism, and grips their stubborn roots in the 19th Century. From the Mexican-American war, through…
The State Between Us14. Lessons from the Modern School and Francisco Ferrer w/ Mark Bray
Mark Bray, historian and author of Translating Anarchy (2013), Antifa (2017), and the Anarchist Inquisition (2022), joins Fritz to critically examine the life…
The State Between Us13. The China Lobby Invents the Right w/ Keith Allen Dennis
Keith Allen Dennis rejoins The State Between Us to offer a one-stop-shop for all things China Lobby, the original network of right-wing power players, spies…
The State Between Us12. The American Security Council: Bob-ing for Commies
The forgotten story of American Industry's post-war espionage, propaganda, and policy outfit, the American Security Council. Launched by Robert E. Wood and…
The State Between Us10. Florida Man Fights Fascism: Gainesville vs. the Alt-Right, 2017 w/ Eli
Fritz meets with labor organizer, Eli, to discuss the early career and connections of Alt-Right co-founder and Regnery Dynasty byproduct, Richard Spencer, and…
The State Between Us9. The Regnery Family's Century of Ruining Everything
TSBU takes on the Regnery family tree, the branches of which take us to the America First Committee, the US Conservative Revolution, and the absurd but…
The State Between Us7. Class Struggle and Mystics in the Middle Ages w/ Chase Padusniak
Medievalist Chase Padusniak joins TSBU to help Fritz briefly extend his vacation from contemporary horrors with 14th-century ones, and narrate the chaotic…
The State Between Us6. Masaniello versus "the Greed of Others Since Eternity": The Revolt of Naples, 1647
In 1647, the urban dispossessed of Naples erupted into a revolutionary class war against their gangster aristocracy. Lead by a 'barefoot Moses', the destitute…
The State Between Us4. The British Fascisti w/ historian Pádraig Óg Ó Ruairc
Historian of Irish resistance Pádraig Ó Ruairc joins Fritz to discuss the rise of the British Fascisti (yes, that's what they called themselves), the first…
The State Between Us3. The Council for National Policy - but really The Origins of Americanism
In an attempt to wrap his head around the ultra-influential Council for National Policy, the secretive beating heart of the American Right today, Fritz is…
The State Between Us2. Organizing Serbia: Citizen Assemblies, State Repression, and the (sort of?) General Strike - interview w/ Laura
TSBU meets Laura, citizen assembly member and activist, in Serbia to discuss the historical and current developments in the ongoing anti-government protest…
The State Between Us1. Welcome to Hughson's Tavern: the Manhattan Conspiracy of 1741
In 1741, the motley proletariat of New York conspired to burn their ruling class from their city, and it might have worked too! Refusing the relationships of…
The State Between Us0. Workin' the Archives: a tutorial w/ Keith Allen Dennis
Legend Keith Allen Dennis joins Fritz to inaugurate The State Between Us with step-by-step, easy-to-follow guide for retrieving primary source materials from…