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Leading Second Podcast
A monthly podcast to help church leaders thrive in the second chair. Leading Second exists to equip local churches everywhere to raise up UNCOMMON leaders. In a culture that often celebrates individual achievement and being on top, Leading Second is here to raise up the kind of leaders every pastor would kill to have on the team. Leaders who are all-in, heart and soul for Jesus, His Church, and their team’s mission. In an ever changing world, we have conversations in real-time with pastors and…
Episodes
Leading Second PodcastYour New Year Starts Now ft. Brandon Stewart | Ep. 229
What if the most powerful thing we could do for the new year is refuse to wait for it? Brandon presents us with some questions to walk through now that will…
Leading Second PodcastCarrying a Decision You Didn't Make ft. Marcus Mecum & Larry Brey | Ep. 228
What does it really mean to carry a vision that did not originate with you? Brandon is joined by Marcus Mecum (Seven Hills Church, OH) and Larry Brey…
Leading Second PodcastHeart & Soul: Adding Value to the Vision ft. Brandon Stewart | Ep. 227
What does it truly mean to honor the leaders God has placed in our lives? This conversation digs into the heart of that question during Pastor Appreciation…
Leading Second PodcastBuilding Your Personal Team ft. Dillon & Leydanis Ritchie | Ep. 226
In this episode, Brandon Stewart, along with Dillon and Leydanis Ritchie (CoastLife Church, Venice, FL), discusses the importance of having a personal team. We…
Leading Second PodcastLeading Second in the Negative World ft. Brandon Stewart | Ep. 225
As Second Chair Leaders, we have to be realistic about our strategy and where we stand in the world today. Brandon discusses the importance of leading in the…
Leading Second PodcastSecond Chair is Not Second Class ft. Brandon Stewart | Ep. 224
What if the seat we occupy in ministry is not a stepping stone to something greater, but is itself the place of greatest significance? Brandon Stewart walks us…
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Leading with Faithfulness ft. Jody Franke | Ep. 223
Brandon sits down with Jody Franke (Keystone Church, Keller, TX) to explore what it means to serve faithfully in ministry without letting ambition cloud our…
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When Leaders Need Care ft. Roger & Sarah Stanton | Ep. 222
We can find ourselves caught between two competing narratives when it comes to seeking help: the fear of appearing weak and the cultural tendency to wear our…
Leading Second PodcastThe Tensions Every Second Chair Leader Will Face (Part 2) | Ep. 221
Jump back into our look at Lead It Like You Own It with the author, Brandon Stewart, as he dives deep into what went into writing the book and shares three…
Leading Second PodcastThe Tensions Every Second Chair Leader Will Face (Part 1) | Ep. 220
Take a behind-the-scenes look at Lead It Like You Own It with the author, Brandon Stewart, as he dives deep into what went into writing the book and shares the…
Leading Second PodcastLead It Like You Own It ft. Brandon Stewart | Ep. 219
Leading Second is proud to announce the release of our first book, Lead It Like You Own It. Brandon sits down with Lindsay, Matt Martin (NorthRock Church, San…
Leading Second PodcastThe Six Enemies of Ownership (Part 2) ft. L2 Coaching Team | Ep. 218
Brandon, Travis Marshall (Christian World Church, Richardson, TX), Jennifer Martin (NorthRock Church, San Antonio, TX), and Joseph Kelley (Discovery Church…
Leading Second PodcastThe Six Enemies of Ownership (Part 1) ft. L2 Coaching Team | Ep. 217
We’re living in a time where ownership seems to be fading from our everyday lives, and the church isn’t immune to this cultural shift. Joining Brandon this…
Leading Second PodcastThe Leader God Can Use ft. Dr. Christopher Palmer | Ep. 216
To kick off 2026, Brandon sits down with Dr. Christopher Palmer, Dean of the Barnett College of Ministry & Theology at Southeastern University, Lakeland, FL…
Leading Second PodcastLeading in Your Grace Zone ft. Julian Lowe | Ep. 215
What if grace doesn’t always feel good, but it’s exactly where you’re meant to be? In this episode, Brandon Stewart and Dillon Ritchie (CoastLife Church…
Leading Second PodcastIt Takes a Team ft. Kevin Gerald | Ep. 214
This month on the Leading Second Podcast, we are honored to welcome back Pastor Kevin Gerald to the conversation. In this new episode, Pastor Kevin and Brandon…
Leading Second PodcastMore than a Month ft. Leading Second Team | Ep. 213
To start Pastor Appreciation Month, Brandon is joined by Joseph Kelley (Discovery Church, Oklahoma, OK), Jennifer Martin (NorthRock Church, San Antonio, TX)…
Leading Second PodcastThe Significance of the Second Chair ft. Charlotte Gambill | Ep. 212
In this episode, Pastor Charlotte Gambill unpacks the privilege and responsibility of holding up your pastor’s arms, embracing unseen moments, and carrying…
Leading Second PodcastLead It Like You Own It ft. Brandon Stewart | S8 Ep. 211
Brandon and Leading Second bring some exciting announcements to the podcast. Join us for some behind-the-scenes fun. To be a part of the pre-sale for the book…
Leading Second PodcastThe Power & Presence of the Local Church ft. James Grout | S8 Ep. 210
Brandon, along with Dillon and Leydanis Ritchie (CoastLife Church, Venice, FL), sit down with Leading Second partner James Grout from OneChild. OneChild is a…
Leading Second PodcastInside the Second Chair ft. James Fam | S8 Ep. 209
This week, Brandon goes Inside the Second Chair with James Fam (Coastal Church, Vancouver, BC) to discover the mindsets, habits, and disciplines of great…
Leading Second PodcastLeading With Clarity ft. Jake Sweetman | S8 Ep. 208
Brandon, along with Joseph Kelley (Discovery Church, Oklahoma City, OK) and Jodi Cameron (Champions Centre, Tacoma, WA), welcomes Jake Sweetman (Cathedral, Los…
Leading Second PodcastUnlocking Your Team's Potential ft. Alan Pastian | S8 Ep. 207
Brandon, Dillon Ritchie (CoastLife Church, Venice, FL), and Alan Pastian (River Valley Church, Minneapolis, MN) discuss the power of self-awareness and its…
Leading Second PodcastLevel Up Your Leadership ft. Larry Brey | S8 Ep. 206
In ministry, we often encounter the need to 'level up' our leadership and personal growth. Brandon, Jennifer Martin (NorthRock Church, San Antonio, TX), and…
Leading Second PodcastFaithful Leadership in Challenging Times - Live from Team Church Canada | S8 Ep. 205
This week, we explore the challenges and opportunities of leading in various contexts, including multi-site churches, family leadership transitions, and…
Leading Second PodcastNavigating Transition: From Corporate to Calling ft. Troy Pollock | S8 Ep. 204
What really happens when you step away from a thriving corporate career to follow the call of ministry? In this episode, Brandon, along with Dillon and…
Leading Second PodcastCarrying the Weight of Ministry for Your Pastors ft. Jason Parrish | S8 Ep. 203
In ministry, each seat of leadership carries its own unique weight and perspective. Brandon, along with Dillon and Leydanis Ritchie (CoastLife Church, Venice…
Leading Second PodcastLeading with Staying Power ft. Brandon Catoe | S8 Ep. 202
Trusting God’s timing isn’t always easy, especially when our desire for security clashes with the call to obedience. But longevity in ministry is built on…
Leading Second PodcastThe Empowered Leader ft. Ken Hester | S8 Ep. 201
In our leadership journeys, we often encounter moments of uncertainty about our roles and the extent of our empowerment. This conversation delves into the…
Leading Second Podcast200th Episode Special | S8 Ep. 200
This podcast episode celebrates the 200th episode of Leading Second, focusing on the importance and dignity of second chair leadership in ministry. Brandon…
Leading Second PodcastHow to Handle Division & Strife on Your Team w/ L2 Team | S8 Ep. 199
Brandon sits down with some of the Leading Second team in a discussion to explore the challenges of dealing with division and strife within church ministry…
Leading Second PodcastAI & Church Leadership ft. Michael Whittle | S8 Ep. 198
In our rapidly changing world, we’re faced with an exciting yet challenging technological revolution: artificial intelligence. As people of faith, we’re called…
Leading Second PodcastFound Faithful ft. Marcus Mecum | S8 Ep. 197
In this powerful discussion, the true essence of faithfulness in leadership is discussed. Brandon, Joseph Kelley from Discovery Church in Oklahoma City, OK…
Leading Second PodcastIt Starts With Me w/ Brandon Stewart | S7 Ep. 196
In the Season 7 finale of the Leading Second Podcast, we discuss how we can better ourselves and our teams by taking ownership of our lives, both in and out of…
Leading Second PodcastInside the Second Chair w/ Dr. Manny Arango & Larry Brey | S7 Ep. 195
Join us for our last Inside the Second Chair conversation for Season 7 with Dr. Manny Arango, Founder and Lead Pastor at The Garden in Houston, TX, and Larry…
Leading Second PodcastInside the Second Chair w/ Jim Wideman | S7 Ep. 194
Join us as Brandon sits down with Jim Wideman, author and Executive Ministries Pastor at Conduit Church in Franklin, Tennessee. With almost 50 years in…
Leading Second PodcastWhere the Church and Politics Meet pt. 2 ft. Jason Warman & Josh Bingle | S7 Ep. 193
Brandon, Jason Warman, Lead Pastor at CoastLife Church in Venice, FL, and Josh Bingle, Lead Pastor at Genesis Church in Spokane, WA, came back together for…
Leading Second PodcastInside the Second Chair w/ Jacob Williamson | S7 Ep. 192
Larry Brey, Executive Pastor at Elevation Church in North Carolina, sits down with Jacob Williamson, Executive Pastor at Celebration Church in Texas, to talk…
Leading Second PodcastThe Calling of First & Second Chair Leaders | S7 Ep. 191
As leaders in ministry, we are called to use our gifts to advance the Kingdom. We all have a part to play so we must work to understand what seat we are called…
Leading Second PodcastInside the Second Chair w/ Jody Franke | S7 Ep. 190
We continue with the Inside the Second Chair series by hearing from Jody Franke from Keystone Church in Keller, TX. Brandon keys in on Jody’s close…
Leading Second PodcastInside the Second Chair w/ Abram Gomez | S7 Ep. 189
This week, we jump back into the Inside the Second Chair series. Brandon is joined by Abram Gomez from Cross Church in Texas to discuss Abram’s unique…
Leading Second PodcastAsk Us Anything - Live from Team Church Conference | S7 Ep. 188
In this episode, Brandon and Lindsay Stewart (Leading Second Pastors), Dillon and Leys Ritchie (Coastlife Church, Venice, FL), and Jodi Cameron (Champions…
Leading Second PodcastGen Z and Church Leadership ft. Elijah Lamb | S7 Ep. 187
Gen Z and the Church can be known to have an interesting dynamic. As church leaders, we must understand this generation and learn how to steward them well…
Leading Second PodcastInside the Second Chair w/ Nichole Moore | S7 Ep. 186
Continuing in our series, Inside the Second Chair, we hear from Nicole Moore, Location Pastor at Champions Centre in Tacoma, WA as she brings insight into the…
Leading Second PodcastBiblical Literacy for Leaders ft. Dr. Manny Arango | S7 Ep. 185
Brandon is joined by Dr. Manny Arango to discuss what Biblical Literacy is, how church leaders can and should be growing in it, and how the church benefits…
Leading Second PodcastNavigating Offense with Your Pastor ft. Larry Brey | S7 Ep. 184
Ep 184: As Second Chair Leaders, we are leading while also following. This week, Brandon, Lindsay Stewart, and Larry Brey discuss having a healthy, thriving…
Leading Second PodcastWhere the Church and Politics Meet ft. Jason Warman & Josh Bingle | S7 Ep. 183
There are tensions going on in our world. It is vital for all of us to speak Kingdom truth in all situations. Brandon, Jason Warman, Lead Pastor at CoastLife…
Leading Second PodcastLeaders the Church Needs Right Now ft. Brandon Stewart | S7 Ep. 182
The Church needs uncommon leaders.This week, we hear from our founder, Brandon Stewart, as he shares what it takes to lead in today's culture and breaks down…
Leading Second PodcastLeading with Clarity ft. Jodi Cameron | S7 Ep. 181
Brandon is joined by Jodi Cameron, Teaching Pastor at Champion Centre in Washington, to continue the Kingdom Centered Leader summer series. They discuss the…
Leading Second PodcastThe Kingdom Centered Leader ft. Kevin Gerald | S7 Ep. 180
We start our summer series, the Kingdom Centered Leader, with Kevin Gerald, founder and Lead Pastor of Champions Centre in Washington. This discussion centers…
Leading Second PodcastThings Your Pastor Wished You Knew but Can't Say ft. Jabin Chavez | S7 Ep. 179
Jabin Chavez, founder and Lead Pastor at City Light Church in Las Vegas, NV, gives us an inside look at the heart of a lead pastor. In this conversation, we…
Leading Second PodcastInside the Second Chair w/ Temi Pope | S7 Ep. 178
This week Larry Brey, Associate Pastor at Elevation Church, sits down with Temi Pope, Chief of Staff at Union Church in Maryland. They have a powerful…
Leading Second PodcastOvercoming the Obstacles of Leadership Development ft. Phil Klein | S7 Ep. 177
Developing team members is vital in leadership. However, it can be a daunting task to begin initiating a system for this. This week, we hear from Phil Klein…
Leading Second PodcastIntentional Leadership Development ft. Leading Second Coaches | S7 Ep. 176
There’s something about intentionality that moves us forward. This week we are joined by Leading Second Coaching Group Coaches Dillon Ritchie, Operations…
Leading Second PodcastInside the Second Chair w/ Vance Roush | S7 Ep. 175
Join us for another behind the scenes conversation on leading from the Second Chair. This week we are joined by Vance Roush, Executive Pastor at Vive Church in…
Leading Second PodcastNavigating Second Chair Leadership in a Church Plant ft. Noah Herrin & Connor Crumpton | S7 Ep. 174
Church planting is not for the faint of heart. This week we get the opportunity to hear from Noah Herrin, Lead Pastor of Way Church in Nashville, TN, and…
Leading Second PodcastInside the Second Chair w/ Philip Engle | S7 Ep. 173
This week, we are joined by Philip Engle, Senior Coach and General Manager at focus412, as we continue our series Inside the Second Chair. Philip offers a…
Leading Second PodcastFamily & Ministry ft. Jonathan Brozozog | S7 Ep. 172
Mixing family and ministry can be tricky, but when we are intentional about both there are great seeds that can be sown. This week we get to hear from Jonathan…
Leading Second PodcastInside the Second Chair w/ Nate Puccini | S7 Ep. 171
This week Larry Brey, Associate Pastor at Elevation Church, sits down for an inside the Second Chair interview with Nate Puccini, Executive Pastor and Chief of…
Leading Second PodcastAnswering Your Questions LIVE (Team Church One Day Special) | S7 Ep. 170
Ep 170: We’re joined by Matt and Jennifer Martin from NorthRock Church in San Antonio, TX and Travis Marshall from Christian World Church in Dallas, TX as we…