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Third LoopEp. #14, Brains in Jars with Dr. Cat Hicks
On episode 14 of Third Loop, the Progressive Delivery team sits down with Dr. Cat Hicks, psychologist and author of The Psychology of Software Teams. Cat…
Third LoopEp. #13, Ten Times Faster at What? with Jennifer Riggins
On episode 13 of Third Loop, the Progressive Delivery team speaks with Jennifer Riggins about why faster code doesn’t automatically mean better software. They…
Third LoopEp. #12, Shipping at the Speed of Understanding with Steph Hippo
On episode 12 of Third Loop, the Progressive Delivery team speaks with Steph Hippo, Platform Engineering Director at Honeycomb, about what happens when AI…
Third LoopEp. #11, Durable Systems, Disposable Code with Chad Fowler
On episode 11 of Third Loop, the Progressive Delivery team sits down with Chad Fowler to explore regenerative software and what architecture looks like when AI…
Third LoopEp. #10, The System Is More Than the Code with Charity Majors
On episode 10 of Third Loop, the Progressive Delivery team speaks with Honeycomb co-founder and CTO Charity Majors about observability, AI, and the changing…
Third LoopEp. #9, Constraints, Creativity, and Competition
On episode 9 of Third Loop, the Progressive Delivery team explores the complicated relationship between AI, automation, and human creativity. Kim Harrison…
Third LoopEp. #8, Sounds Like Alignment with Melinda Fekete
On episode 8 of Third Loop, the Progressive Delivery team sits down with Melinda Fekete to discuss FeatureOps, developer experience, and modern software…
Third LoopEp. #7, Exploring DORA and Progressive Delivery with Nathen Harvey
On episode 7 of Third Loop, the Progressive Delivery team speaks with Nathen Harvey about the intersection of AI, DevOps, and user-centric software…
Third LoopEp. #6, The Weird Edges of Taste with Betty Junod
On episode 6 of Third Loop, Kim Harrison, Adam Zimman, James Governor, and Heidi Waterhouse sit down with Betty Junod. Together, they explore how agentic…
Third LoopEp. #5, Free, Like Puppies: The Real Cost of AI Code
On episode 5 of Third Loop, Heidi Waterhouse, James Governor, Adam Zimman, and Kim Harrison dig into the hype around AI-generated code and ask a deceptively…
Third LoopEp. #4, Signals and Levers with Elisabeth Hendrickson and Joel Tosi
On episode 4 of Third Loop, Elisabeth Hendrickson and Joel Tosi join the hosts to discuss systems thinking, software delivery, and why organizations often…
Third LoopEp. #3, Give It a Name: Why Software Needs a Third Loop
In this episode, the hosts unpack the thinking behind the name Third Loop and what it represents. Building on ideas from their book Progressive Delivery, they…
Third LoopEp. #2, Features and Futures with Kent Beck
On episode 2 of Third Loop, Kim, Heidi, and Adam sit down with Kent Beck. They explore how Progressive Delivery extends ideas from Agile and Extreme…
Third LoopEp. #1, The Story Behind Progressive Delivery
In this debut episode of Third Loop, James Governor, Kim Harrison, Heidi Waterhouse, and Adam Zimman explore how the concept of Progressive Delivery emerged…