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Pro Wrestling, Weird Statues, and Obstinate Christians · Talk About That

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  Speaker 1: Life Audio. Today, I'll talk about that. John learns the
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  Speaker 1: difference between further and farther and tells us how the
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  Speaker 1: sausage is made. Meanwhile, I visit a town with the
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  Speaker 1: strangest monument ever and get invited to a pro wrestling
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  Speaker 1: event in Texas. Plus a conversation about skepticism, doubt, and
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  Speaker 1: the death of expertise. Today's episode is not sponsored by
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  Speaker 1: I know you love chocolate, but I never really cared
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  Speaker 1: for you. But first, a word's more actual sponsor.
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  Speaker 2: What's up podcast World, It's another informative episode of Talk
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  Speaker 2: About That where we're educating, entertaining.
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  Speaker 3: It's John and Johnny. We're back for another week.
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  Speaker 1: We just want to bring a little light and levity,
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  Speaker 1: maybe a little learning. All the three els. Yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't never bother you that the three ares in schooling.
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  Speaker 1: Only one of them is really in our Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: really dumb, because they go, he's excelling in the three
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  Speaker 1: hours writing, reading, arithmetic, and you go, oh, man, we're
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  Speaker 1: in a lot of trouble. Yeah, that's they go, that's
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  Speaker 1: another r You go, no, it's got an r in it.
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  Speaker 1: What do you it's a tea. It's a totally a
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  Speaker 1: te Listen.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not here to dog a nation's educational system, but
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  Speaker 2: I was an educator, so I know what's going on
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  Speaker 2: in there. I've seen how the sausage is made.
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  Speaker 1: Johnny, you're making sausage.
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  Speaker 3: Now, that was class.
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  Speaker 1: One of these kids are behind you got them in
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  Speaker 1: a weird sweatshop making sausage. A sausage sweatshop. The three
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  Speaker 1: s's there.
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  Speaker 2: It does feel like the sausage made feels like a
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  Speaker 2: leftover aphorism from Yeah yonder years.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I wonder if there are people who say it
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  Speaker 1: and don't understand what that that means. Like when I
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  Speaker 1: say sometimes I would say, that's really inside baseball, but
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  Speaker 1: that just means like we're in the weeds of the
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  Speaker 1: minutia of a very specific genre of something.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So when you're talking, like if I talk comedy with somebody,
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  Speaker 1: I go, we're getting inside baseball now. Yeah. But somebody
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  Speaker 1: I hear that and be like, but you're not talking
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  Speaker 1: about baseball, no, no, no, But it just is a weird
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  Speaker 1: term that just means getting into the weeds of like
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  Speaker 1: a specific niche of something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I really like expressions that get left over,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and it's always fascinating people don't understand their origins.
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  Speaker 1: There was somebody post a video about words in our language.
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  Speaker 1: You would love it. It was words in our language
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  Speaker 1: that only go with one other word. Ooh, and one
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  Speaker 1: of them was a do like you would never see
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  Speaker 1: a do without much and it only lives because of Shakespeare. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's only like, but nobody ever says like, here we
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  Speaker 1: go a do like. Nobody says a do without much ado.
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  Speaker 1: You couldn't find it after much ado? You know, what
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  Speaker 1: do you say a do? Exactly? That's all you have.
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  Speaker 1: But there was like twenty of those words that they
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  Speaker 1: only go with one other word.
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  Speaker 3: Interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, we had a very specific
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  Speaker 1: it's a very strange language we have here.
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  Speaker 3: No, it really really is.
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  Speaker 2: I was trying to use something in like past present,
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  Speaker 2: perfect tense the other day and the three I cursed
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  Speaker 2: the English language.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't curse, No, I just cursed in the English language.
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  Speaker 3: If you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's like, do you know the difference between
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  Speaker 2: I believe I'm correct here?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe I'm correct here?
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  Speaker 3: As a writer. This is what I do as a writer.
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  Speaker 2: Right, So someone out there listening may know more than me,
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  Speaker 2: some English teacher, but as I understand.
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  Speaker 1: It, uh huh, would you know when to use.
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  Speaker 3: The word farther versus the word further further?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? No, now I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 2: So farther as I understand, it is a physical distance, right,
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  Speaker 2: So if you're if I was giving you directions, I'd go, hey,
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  Speaker 2: when you get to this exit, you only have two
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  Speaker 2: miles farther to go further than would be like anything
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  Speaker 2: non literal.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So about how far we've come in our relationship,
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  Speaker 1: come further than anyone.
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  Speaker 2: That the podcast has come so far, But it's going
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  Speaker 2: to go a lot further, specifically two more episodes.
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  Speaker 1: Before I quit. But this is again language, But why
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  Speaker 1: would the language do that?
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  Speaker 3: Why not just pick one? You know? Why do we
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  Speaker 3: have to?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Somewhere back there in time, it probably was just one
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  Speaker 3: and then.
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  Speaker 2: Someone started using the other one further back or far
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  Speaker 2: someone further back in time, someone was on a trip
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  Speaker 2: going farther than they ever been before, but they messed
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  Speaker 2: up and said further, and it just stuck.
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  Speaker 1: And then down the road and they got stuck down
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  Speaker 1: the road.
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  Speaker 2: Some English teacher decided, you know what, and they decided
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  Speaker 2: between the two and they.
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  Speaker 1: Decided anybody else that doesn't do it is stupid. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I don't like, and stop judging me. That's
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  Speaker 1: why I like going to other parts of the country
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  Speaker 1: because you see, like their history, and you get to
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  Speaker 1: see their weird statues and see their weird like like
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  Speaker 1: there's roadside curiosities in some of these towns, like the
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  Speaker 1: biggest bally yarn.
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  Speaker 3: That kind of a big pink elephant.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it and uh and I like it
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  Speaker 1: that I go into places where their most famous thing
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  Speaker 1: in their town is that guy Fieri drivers dine ins.
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  Speaker 1: I can't say it, diners drive in dives. It's another
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  Speaker 1: tongue twist. It's a lot, that's the three d's.
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  Speaker 3: It's I slit the sheet, the sheet, I slid on
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  Speaker 3: the slitted sheet. I sit.
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  Speaker 1: I want to say, though, the most famous tongue twister
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  Speaker 1: I always remember is Sally sold seashells by the sea shore.
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  Speaker 1: And in retrospect, that's a pretty terrible place to try
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  Speaker 1: to sell seashells. When you think about it, you could
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  Speaker 1: be like, hey would you like to buy a seashell
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  Speaker 1: from me or bend over and just grab.
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  Speaker 2: One off the ground the ground. Yeah, it's a really
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  Speaker 2: it's not only a tongue twister. It's just a bad,
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  Speaker 2: terrible market for seashells. I'll tell you right now. I
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  Speaker 2: was looking on my phone at.
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  Speaker 1: The don't put your money in a seashells.
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  Speaker 2: And at the shell that's Sally Is.
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  Speaker 1: It's the s Is there any linkage to Sally May.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that's the Sally from Sally May. They had the
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  Speaker 1: big financial crisis, remember that in two thousand and eight.
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  Speaker 1: Sally May was part of that. Maybe she was selling
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  Speaker 1: seashells on the side and Sally Ma, Sally May the
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  Speaker 1: educational arm of I thought Fanny May was housing. I
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  Speaker 1: think Sanny May and Freddie Mack, Freddie Mac. But there
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  Speaker 1: was Sally May too. Hang on, I gotta look it up.
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you there's fan. I think there's a Sally May.
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  Speaker 1: Hold on, maybe May not exist.
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  Speaker 3: To be honest, I was happy. I remember the other two.
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  Speaker 1: Freddie Mack, I remember that one which that sounds like
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  Speaker 1: a hip hop star. Hang on a second, Sally May
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  Speaker 1: student loans. Yeah, so Sally maybe student loans, Freddie Mack
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  Speaker 1: was business maybe, and Fannie May was housing.
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  Speaker 3: If we're right now in the finance part of the podcast,
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  Speaker 3: I can.
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  Speaker 1: We are in the weeds, my friend, we ain't gonna
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  Speaker 1: make it, no, but anyway, okay, So I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: give you a little history lesson.
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  Speaker 3: I love those.
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  Speaker 1: I was in Enterprise, Alabama, and my wife shall look
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  Speaker 1: up stuff. Now I don't know why. She was like,
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  Speaker 1: she'll try to like give me a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: something so I can go on stage and kind of,
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  Speaker 1: you know, roast the town a little bit. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't do it all the time, but now the more
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  Speaker 1: comfortable I am in my show, you go. I just
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  Speaker 1: need to remember to do this once I'm get going,
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  Speaker 1: Like once I get them, and then I can be like,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, we're driving through your town, what's the deal?
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  Speaker 1: That's not ever what I do. Both times I've done it.
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  Speaker 1: The last weekend, I did it right off the top,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, this is a and as I'm
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  Speaker 1: doing it, I'm going this is a pretty big risk.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for paying me to come here. Also, your
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  Speaker 3: town sucks.
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  Speaker 1: I would never say such a thing, but their town
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  Speaker 1: was so strange in this way, So do you know
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  Speaker 1: anything about Enterprise Alabama? Did you know there was an
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  Speaker 1: Enterprise Alabama?
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  Speaker 3: I've driven past it. Okay, how near the BUCkies is
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  Speaker 3: that's going to be exactly.
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  Speaker 1: So you go past Troy. It's three hours south of Birmingham.
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  Speaker 1: So we go down there and we are pulling, and
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  Speaker 1: she goes, she goes, this town's wild. And we didn't
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  Speaker 1: go see this statue. But evidently I'm going to mess
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  Speaker 1: up the history of it. I've got some of it
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  Speaker 1: pulled up. I just want to don't want to read
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  Speaker 1: a whole thing. Sure, So I'll give you the I'll
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  Speaker 1: give you the Johnny version. Early nineteen hundreds, late eighteen hundreds.
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  Speaker 1: They're a cotton producing state, producing city, thriving. The ball
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  Speaker 1: evil came in, like it did for a lot of people. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: completely wiped out the cotton. Now the town is like
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  Speaker 1: a ghost town. It's like they're they're all starving because
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  Speaker 1: they're factories that shut down. I must have it was
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  Speaker 1: a big mess. Right around the same time, George Washington
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  Speaker 1: Carver is innovating with the peanut and all this other
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  Speaker 1: stuff and all these new agricultural things that he was doing,
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  Speaker 1: which is rotate your crops, you know, spike in different things,
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  Speaker 1: let the ground rest, et cetera. And so even though
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  Speaker 1: this is nineteen early nineteen hundreds, Alabama, so it's it's
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  Speaker 1: crazy to think of that. You know that this black
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  Speaker 1: innovator was like being like, you should do this. Well
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  Speaker 1: they did it and it led to a huge turnaround.
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  Speaker 1: They planted peanuts and it led to this huge turnaround
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  Speaker 1: and is ushered in this whole wave of prosperity for
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  Speaker 1: the state and city. So enterprise owes a lot of
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  Speaker 1: its history to this guy. So going through the town,
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  Speaker 1: there's a statue. Do you want to guess what the
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  Speaker 1: statue is?
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  Speaker 3: I only guess it's not George Washington Carver.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So this is what happened. This guy named Roscoe
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  Speaker 1: Owen Fleming. He's a city councilman and rogue promoter of
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  Speaker 1: the town enterprise. Uh, rogue promoter, A rogue promoter, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So uh. He got bashed by modern critics for honoring
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  Speaker 1: what he did rather than but he had this idea
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  Speaker 1: for like a light a fountain in this town. A
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  Speaker 1: woman wearing a nice you know, dressed toga and she's
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  Speaker 1: holding like a Greek style statue holding this lantern. A
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  Speaker 1: beam of light and water was going to come out
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  Speaker 1: of the lantern I think she was holding over her head.
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  Speaker 1: He decided to change that to her holding a gigantic
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  Speaker 1: bowl weavil. What So Enterprise Alabama has the famous bowl
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  Speaker 1: weavil statue And if you go there, it's a woman
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  Speaker 1: holding a bowl weevil the size of a Dagumbassett hound.
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  Speaker 1: And I want to show you this and we'll put
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  Speaker 1: it on the podcast for the people who are watching
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  Speaker 1: on video, but I want you to describe. Oh, dear that,
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  Speaker 1: my friends.
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  Speaker 3: That's terrifying.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's holding oh I would eat your face right
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  Speaker 1: and literally like And so I talked to about it.
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  Speaker 1: I go, I go, so my wife told me to
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  Speaker 1: And then the George Washington carr and I go, oh,
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  Speaker 1: so the statue is going to be of George Washington
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  Speaker 1: Carver and she goes, you'd be surprised, and they all laughed,
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  Speaker 1: and I go, well, it's a peanut, right, And she
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  Speaker 1: goes nope, And I go, I go, y'all are out
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  Speaker 1: here celebrating the villain, t'allor you mean a statue to
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  Speaker 1: the bad guy. Yeah, but here's the thing, and this
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  Speaker 1: is where it gets into sermon illustration time. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't I want to give him a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of credit because he kind of knew it was going
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  Speaker 1: to be a knock on him. So it says Fleming's
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  Speaker 1: been bashed by some modern critics for honoring the weavil
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  Speaker 1: instead of George Washington Carver, the Alabama African American agramist
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  Speaker 1: agronomist who champions the Peanut Carver Monument, would have been
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  Speaker 1: newsworthy as one for the Bowl Evil, but sadly it
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  Speaker 1: was never going to happen in segregated nineteen nineteen Alabama.
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  Speaker 1: So I think he just kind of knew, like, this
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  Speaker 1: isn't gonna fly when it's so Fleming may have felt
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  Speaker 1: bad about that he invited Carver to be the principal
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  Speaker 1: speaker at the monument's dedication, but rain washed out the
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  Speaker 1: railroad tax and Carver never made it to town. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: so not meant to be, I guess, But so I
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  Speaker 1: just kind of was knocking them. I didn't do the
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  Speaker 1: whole thing of like how racist are you guys that
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  Speaker 1: you celebrate a bug? But it was interesting, just like
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  Speaker 1: the idea, it's just such a funny thing. But sermy
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  Speaker 1: illustration time. Here's where it goes. They wanted to celebrate
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  Speaker 1: this because it was a thing that looked like a
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  Speaker 1: big setback, and they turned it into like they pivoted,
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  Speaker 1: and that's why they're like, you didn't get our goat there,
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  Speaker 1: Bowl Weavil. But it's funny, and I guess it couldn't
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  Speaker 1: be actual size because you got to well, tiny statue
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  Speaker 1: would that bee? So it's like they got to make
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  Speaker 1: this gigantic's the size of a.
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  Speaker 3: A tiny bowl bowl bowl Weavil.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of weird pronunciations in the show. Yes, anyway,
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  Speaker 1: Enterprise Alabama, if you get a chance to go to
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  Speaker 1: the city square and see the bowl Evil statue. Uh, now,
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  Speaker 1: I've given you a little slice of history.
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  Speaker 2: Did you know there was a guy that played in
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  Speaker 2: the NBA. It was a really really tall are you ready?
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  Speaker 3: Minute bowl Evil minute bow Evil. Different than the other guy.
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  Speaker 1: It's a different guy. I don't think that was I
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  Speaker 1: don't think there was his full name.
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  Speaker 3: His wingspan was unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: I can't go time.
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  Speaker 3: Let's move forward, John Bowel, everybody, I'll be here all day.
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  Speaker 1: It's time John, It's time quickly to pivot ourselves and
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  Speaker 1: hear from a few. I hope it's Jiff Peanut butter.
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  Speaker 1: I want to hear from a few of our fine sponsors.
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  Speaker 1: I apologize for nothing. No, nor should you. It was
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  Speaker 1: a weird weekend, so we did Enterprise and then we
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  Speaker 1: had two hours sleep to a five am flight to Snyder, Texas. Right,
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  Speaker 1: we have to do an afternoon event in Snyder. And
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  Speaker 1: it's a really like I mean, it's a rural ten
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  Speaker 1: eleven thousand people live in Snyder. Midland is the nearest
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  Speaker 1: big city. That's where we flew into. And Midland is
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  Speaker 1: like an oil town. That's like, right, it's dust bowled
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  Speaker 1: and the central and so you go, yeah, exactly. So
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  Speaker 1: it's the oil things burning off the whatever they do,
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  Speaker 1: see big flames. So we go there, We get to Snyder,
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  Speaker 1: we do our thing there and then we're exhausted. We're
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  Speaker 1: running on fumes, and I was like, let's go take
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  Speaker 1: an that we'll go to a hotel. And then the
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  Speaker 1: pastor pulls me aside and he goes, hey, tonight. You
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  Speaker 1: don't have to say yes, but if you want to
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  Speaker 1: come with us tonight because we have tickets to micro wrestling. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: what And I know what micro wrestling is because I've
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  Speaker 1: been in towns where it happens. It's the tour of
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  Speaker 1: little people who do professional wrestling. And it was in
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  Speaker 1: the big whatever, the arena, the the whatever, the Colisseum
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  Speaker 1: in downtown Snyder. Okay, and I go, I go. Let
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  Speaker 1: me ask my wife. I go, we're exhausted.
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  Speaker 3: It's the strangest question you've ever asked her.
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  Speaker 1: And I said, I said, we can go home, we
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  Speaker 1: can go back to the hotel, take a nap, because
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  Speaker 1: we were just going to sleep through the next day probably,
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  Speaker 1: And she got, I go, but he's invited us to
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  Speaker 1: go to professional little people wrestling. And she, I mean
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  Speaker 1: her eyes lit up.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so she was down for it.
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  Speaker 1: She was like, we gotta go, right because we never
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  Speaker 1: get to go. Gladeville here in town has pro wrestling
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  Speaker 1: that comes through. We go to it. Sometimes we haven't
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  Speaker 1: been in years.
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  Speaker 3: It's this way, No, it's that's the airport.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Okay, good wherever you are Gladeville and
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  Speaker 1: at the community center, and so we haven't been in
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  Speaker 1: the years, and so she goes, we gotta go. We'll
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  Speaker 1: never figure ourselves if we passed this up. And so
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  Speaker 1: we went to and let me tell you something. It
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  Speaker 1: was an experience. It was something else. It was a
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  Speaker 1: few hundred people packed into this little place and there's
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  Speaker 1: a little ring. I mean the ring is a smaller
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  Speaker 1: ring as you would imagine. The guy comes out to
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  Speaker 1: announce it and he is in a referee costume. He
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  Speaker 1: has a sequin glove. He is a black man with dreads.
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  Speaker 1: He is about two and a half foot tall, and
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  Speaker 1: he goes by the moniker micro Jackson okay, and he
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  Speaker 1: spun around and he danced for a minute, and then
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  Speaker 1: he started bringing out ring performers and then they I
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  Speaker 1: mean they're going off the top rope. It was unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: Such respect for those guys. I mean, it's just so cool.
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  Speaker 1: They found their thing to do and they're making a living.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, if you get a chance to
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  Speaker 1: go see micro wrestling, do not mince it. I'm on board. Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: five star Google review.
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  Speaker 3: Amazing.
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  Speaker 1: So we gave up. We didn't app as long as
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  Speaker 1: we would have, but it was worth it. We would
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: never we would have Fomo forever if we didn't go
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: to micro wrestling. Go see it if you get a chance,
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: if it comes to your down. So that's not a
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: paid ada.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: Yes, that's not going to come up in the ads.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: No, the algorithm that would be interesting. Now it will though,
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: because I think it's learning. I would do it. If
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: they wanted to be a show sponsored the show, I'd
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: be like, let's go. I'm on board. That's really interesting.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know what you did fun for the weekend.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: You went to a numb volleyball to know, nothing like that.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: You're out there, I'm seeing bug statues and meeting micro Jackson.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: You live a very interesting life.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Tell you what many.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Thinks about that time though, let's do it. It's my segment.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: It's a segment we call. They talked about that pretty good,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: Dallas Willard.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: I love this quote. I using the sermon the other day.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: I think you were there. I was there.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was amazing.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: We live in a culture that has for centuries now
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: cultivated the idea that the skeptical person is always smarter
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: than the one who believes. You can almost be as
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: stupid as a cabbage as long as you doubt. Yeah,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: I mean it's so powerful, and I think I was
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: using it. We were talking about obstinates. We're doing a series.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: We're calling the verses versus v E R s U
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: s v E R s ess. So from proverbs, it's
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: always this person versus this kind of person versus this
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: kind of person that's all within each of us. Right,
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: the obstinate is stubborn versus the teachable, you know, or
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: someone who's humble. And I mean just this idea that
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: skepticism now makes you a reliable source. And if you
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: watch any of the major news networks, any of them,
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: and they have these these roundtable type discussions now where
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: there's the host and then there's a couple from the left,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: and there's a couple from the right, and then they
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: just they just go after each other. But a lot
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: of it is just disputing the other side. Like it's
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: not it's not informative, it's adversarial. And the adversarialism is
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: like makes you an expert. There was a day in
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: time to go on a network and to do something
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: you had to actually have done something to talk about.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: And also those guys are adverts, right, but you can
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: go on the show with no data.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Right, you can just have your whole personality now be
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: like well I don't know about that. That's your whole
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: personality now right, just a scold, Yeah, being a skeptic
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: and a scold again.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to use an example of what I
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: saw on one of these shows the other day. I'm
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: not speaking about this topic, but they're talking about election fraud.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Uh huh.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: And there was someone on there and the person said, well,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: you know, they were from a legit foundation and they
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: were speaking on and that there is a lot of
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: election fraud, but they used that she literally made air
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: quotes and she was like, I know a lot of
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: people on the left want to act like that. You know,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: this is rare. And she used this, you know, and
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: they were like, we'll bring us data, and so her
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: own data.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Basically was that they had found like in I think
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Atlanta or something, or at all of Georgia. I think
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: they found twenty cases out of millions upon millions, and
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: you know, they needed eleven thousand votes.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: To swing that election a different way. They found twenty.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: And someone brought up another piece of data that since
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety eight, there have been a total of like
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: seventy seven confirmed cases of somebody who wasn't a citizen voting,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: but the person knew that data and still went on
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: because she trusted in her skepticism.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: She trusted in like, I don't know, I can.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Argue well even though the data she brought to the
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: show was going to disprove her own point.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: And I think that, like, I don't want.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: To be that as a believer, because it does there
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: is a christ side to this, right that.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: I used to I used to tell the kids when
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: I was a youth pastor.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: And you remember this, Like, over my lifetime, I've won
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: a lot of arguments and then simultaneously.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Lost a lot of people.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know early on, I think when you're young,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: and you remember that, I don't ever told you that
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: story you do at ut where.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Those street preachers, Yeah.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: And back then, man, I mean they'd come up there
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: with a Bible and just the street preachers would just
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: it was all condemnation, right, it was all you're all
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: going to hell, You're all going to hell.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: And so one afternoon.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Out by the Humanities building, I mean, a crowd of
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: probably three four hundred college students together and they were
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: listening and then they were shouting, and there's a couple
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: of them and they had this lady and she was
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: just shouting and yelling, and I just got mad, and
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: so I like did what I do, and I started
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: arguing with her with scripture, and I don't know, I've
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: probably quoted five or six scriptures and I shut her down.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Like she went over and got the main guy and
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: brought him back to argue with me. And now I boss,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: like this crowd's gathering now and I've got this like
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: energy going, and the boss comes over. Let me ask
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: you this young man. He starts into it and I
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: just I just take him down. And I'm just telling
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: you how it went. Like I just took him down.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this is what it says in
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: first John, and this is what it says, you know,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: What do you do with this? And then he gave
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: up and walked away, and like the crowd cheered yeah.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: And then this girl I knew walked up and says, hey,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: way to go.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Where to give that religious guy hell?
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: John?
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: And I remember being think, way, I'm a religious guy too,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: and like all that that person has. Now, I think
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: there's a right time right to stand up and do that.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: But I think that I was known more for my
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: doubting of his position than I was for the affirmative
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: of mind.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: And that is why.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: I think this is an important conversation right now in
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: the world, not just in America. That and I'd say
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: this in that sermon. If we have an obstinate Christianity,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: a skeptical, argumentative, stubborn way or faith right that is
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: not humble, that is anti help the poor, if they're
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: not in our own tribe, that is anti speak up
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: for the rights of the refugee, the migrant, the immigrant,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: and as the Bible calls them, the stranger among us,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: if we don't show kindness to the stranger among us.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: I'm not talking about not having secure borders or anything
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: like that. I'm just saying Scripture is not just one time,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: it is replete. It is explicit about the nature of
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: how the Gospel approaches people like that both Old Testament
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: ended it like any other kind of Christianity that calls
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: itself Christianity that does not walk in the ways and
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: the words of Christ, is heretical. Now I'm not saying
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: it's in somebody to hell or doesn't. I'm not the
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: judge of that. I'm saying, though we've missed the target,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: which by the way, is the definition in the original
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: languages of what sin means in a sinful Christianity to
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: use those things in a manner. Let's not just talking
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: about what you do it for its end, but for
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: its use. Like it can't. I cannot attack with the gospel.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: It's just it's not made to do that. And when
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: I do, it's no longer the gospel. So yeah, you
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: can be almost today, but think about it. You could
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: be stupid. You have no viewpoint, you have your data.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: You know rejects your own thing. But as long as
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: you're good at doubting and you're good at being skeptical,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: and you're good at taking down the other side, we
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: suddenly act like you're an expert. And it's the It's
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: the death of expertise, right, there was a book about that.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: It's the death of expertise that I think is killing
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: us because now I watch there's some podcasts out there
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: where people are interviewing their parents or they're interviewing other
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: people and back and forth. It's like we're rarely with
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: no problem saying Okay, I see your data and it
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: may be true.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: I'm still not going to think that way.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're living and not living the shared reality anymore,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: right with people who it's like we can live in
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: two different realities, and so in my reality, this is
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: these are the facts. In your reality, these are the facts,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: and so we don't ever have to like we can
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: just stay it's like complete tribalism.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: There was a politician named.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: James Baker who was a congressman and and then I
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: think he was maybe a senator as well. And then
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: he was one of the maybe chief of staff to
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: one of the presidents, you know, in the in the eighties.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: And secretary defense.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Maybe he was a secretary.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I can't you know, yeah, maybe the Treasury, No,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: it was the Treasury.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Anyway.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: When I was writing for mister Haslam, he was he
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: knew him, and that was a big part of his past.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: And there's actually a whole thing at ut now it's
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: like the Chains Baker's Student Center for Political Engagement or
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Social Engagement, Like it's it's about being able to talk
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: about politics and other things without with your opponents opponents,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: without it being now you're my enemy, because you're my opponent.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: And one of the things I'll never forget that he
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: would say that mister Haslum took with him. His whole
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: life was is when I sit down to Broker, I
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: think he was Secretary of State.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Actually, I think the secretary of State.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: When you guys, if I'm sorry, I should look this up,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: but I'm trying to get to what he said.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Everybody, geez, Johnny, sorry.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: But he he said, when I'm sitting down the Middle
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: East or whatever, the first thing we have to do
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: is find one thing that we both agree on. If
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: I can find one thing that both sides agree on,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: then we can try to find another thing we both
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: agree on, and then we begin to build something like compromise,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: and peace is not just found when we agree it.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: By definition, we're not going to agree on everything. It's
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: those who can find one thing that they can validate
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: in the other without compromising some major pass position. I mean,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: I think that there's something to be said for that
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: that we needed.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: I think you and I need to come to a compromise. Well,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: if we could just find one single thing we agree on.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Just a single We'll keep looking.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: John. Let's do my segments. Let's do some old jokes today.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: We call it joke about that John a frog called
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: the Psychic Hotline. You're you're gonna meet a beautiful This
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: really happened. You're going to meet a beautiful young woman
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: who will want to know everything about you, the psychic
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: told him. The frog said that's great. Well, I meet
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: her at a party or what, No, said the psychic
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: next term in her biology class. It's a dark end
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: for that frog. I did not know John, the army
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: could be so secretive. I went and asked them what
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: their lowest rank was. What their lowest rank was, and
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: they said, it's private. Man. I messed up that when
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I butchered that with my little weird the
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: rowst length the rowist lank. John, my grief counselor died.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: He was so good. I don't even care. That sounds
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: like a Rodney Dangerfield JOKESA. That's a great job, Finally, John.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: A trucker and a lawyer are seated next to each
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: other on a flight from Los Angeles to New York.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: It's a long flight. The lawyer asks the trucker if
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: he would like to play a fun game, but the
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: trucker says he just wants to take a nap. The
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: lawyer persists and explains the game is easy and a
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: lot of fun. He explains, I ask you a question,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: If you don't know the answer, you pay me five dollars,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: and vice versa. Again, the trucker declines and says, I
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: just need to get some sleep. The lawyer, now agitated,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: and says, if you don't know the answer, you pay
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: me five dollars, and if I don't know an answer,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I'll pay you five hundred dollars. This catches the trucker's attention.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: He agrees to the game. The lawyer asks the first question,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: what's the distance from the Earth to the moon. The
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: trucker doesn't say a word, reaches into his pocket, pulls
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: out a five dollar bill, hands it to the lawyer. Okay,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: says the lawyer, your turn. The trucker asks what goes
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: up a hill with three legs but comes down with
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: four legs. The lawyer, puzzled, takes out his laptop scours
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: the internet for help, with no luck, and now feeling frustrated,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: he sends emails to all his friends and coworkers, but
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: to no avail. After an hour, he wakes the trucker
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: and hands him five hundred dollars. The trucker says thank
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: you and turns back to get more sleep, Well, exclaims
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: the mift lawyer. What's the answer. Without a word, the
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: trucker reaches into his pocket, hands the lawyer five dollars
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: and goes back to sleep. That's a great one. That's
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: one of those. The old trucker got it over on
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: the smart city fied lawyer. Take that, hey, lawyer.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Learned the people. Yeah, that's good.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it. John. Let's do this week in history.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: We call it talk about then, John. This week, US
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: President eighteen sixty four, US President Abraham Lincoln poses for
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: the picture that now appears on the US five dollar bill.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: This is when they say, sad down to pose for
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: that famous image. I wanted to ask you, do you
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: know who is on the current bills? Like, if I
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: had to, who's on the dollar?
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Washington?
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Washington? Two dollars Adams, No, great, it makes sense. The
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: two two dollars Jefferson, sorry, Jefferson, five dollars, Abraham Lincoln.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: As we just said, ten dollars Hamilton, Hamilton, of course,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: twenty dollars. Wait a second, those are the ones you
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: see the most probably I know, why do I not
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: know this?
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Hold on? Hold on?
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: He was the first Secretary of the Treasury.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: That was Hamilton.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: No, oh, you're right, Sorry, I'm reading this wrong. He
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: was our seventh president.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, Jackson, that's right, jackson'll the name.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Andrew Jackson, and probably going to be Harriet Tubman if
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: it goes through, because they kind of I think they
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: passed a bill. I don't know what they're going to
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: do pass the bill to make the bill change, but anyway,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: it's not supposed to take effect till twenty thirty. I
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: think it's when Harriet Tubman will supposedly take the twenty
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: dollar bill, the fifty dollars, John, that's Grant Grant, and
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: then one hundred dollars. Of course, is Benjamin all about
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: the Benjamins? Benjamin Franklin, I can't. I got stumped on
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: the easiest one, did you do? You know, though, who
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: was on the thousand dollars bill that were discontinued in
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: nineteen sixty nine, Rosa, here's the thing, here's the here's
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: the real tricky part of this. It was Grover Cleveland. Okay,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: they were discontinued. Say, here's the thing. With the dollar
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: being so devalued, now we could use thousand dollar bills.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Now they were discontinue, like nobody's going to use a
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: thousand dollar bill. These are for the now. You got
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: to peel off all these hundreds. If you owe somebody
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: one thousand dollars.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: You want to eat at a restaurant, that's.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: True, and pay for one of your kids' school books. Right,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: sheeeesz those school books and not a grazy that's always
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: been a scam.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: I need to get in there buy these books.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: They are like nine hundred dollars for a book and
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: then they go, but you get some of the value
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: back at the end of the school year. They give
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: you like thirty dollars for that thousand dollars books said.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: He had books from last year in large one of
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: the throw in the trash.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, as you do with books. Wait a minute, that's
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: really bad. It's not really value education in your house.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: She doesn't know this, but I took it to Goodwill
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: because I thought maybe someone out there will have that class,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: and they're probably not going to It's hard for me
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: to throw books away.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: It is it should be for all of us. John.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: This week, seventeen seventy three, William Henry Harrison was born.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: He was an American politician, our ninth US president March
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: fourth through April fourth, eighteen forty one. He died of
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: pneumonia thirty one days after taking office, making him the.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: First because of the cold inauguration.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: The first year as president in office is inaugur Well,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of people, there's conjecture on this. His inaugural
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: address took almost two hours, and this is the longest
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: in American history, so it's a little bit of a
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Three weeks after his inauguration, he became sick with a cold.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: So some people say, well, you shouldn't have been out
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: there in the cold, and cold cold weather causes colds.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: That's a kind of a misnomber. Harrick Harrison's doctors tried
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: several cures, and again this is yeah, not eighteen forty one.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, not a great time to have doctors trying
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: to see to your weird cold. Because here's what the
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: cures were. Opium and leeches. Yeah, those leeches were. Those
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: leaches are like this guy who feeling good over here.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Maybe they'll put us on a statue one day, but
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: to no avail. He died nine days later. The opium
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: and leeches did not do the trick. Sad, but Yeah,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: he was our first US president to die in office,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: not the last, sadly. Johnny John, Johnny John This Week,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I'm John this Week. Nineteen thirty eight, Bobby Boris Pickett
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: was born. He was an American singer. He's most famous
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: for the song the Monster Mash Okay, nineteen sixty two
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: number one hit. It was a Graveyard smash monged my
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: favorite part about my favorite little piece of trivia about
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: the Monster Mass mashes. You've never heard the Monster Mash.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: You've heard a song about the guy who played the
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Monster Mash. Then that little brain teaser for you, because
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: it says they played the mash, right, it's a graveyard smash.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: It's a song about itself. It's a song about another
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: song called the Monster mass I've heard. I mean, you've
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: never heard.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: That's fascinating.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: You've never heard the Monster Mash, You've only heard a
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: song about it.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: That's kind of like backstreets back where they really wasn't
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: like their first album or whatever.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: I don't think it was their second album maybe, but yeah,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: what were they back from?
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you hadn't really gone away. You've been touring the
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: whole time. Maybe I don't know.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, am I original. Yeah, am I the only one? Anyway,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: we will get to the other questions John this week.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: This week. Finally, Jimmy Ryan was born in eighteen sixty three.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: He makes the list because he's the first athlete to
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: ever punch a sports writer. Oh wow, not the last, sadly.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: The American baseball player eighteen eighty five to nineteen o three.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: He was the first major league baseball player to punch
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: a sports writer, George Beckel in eighteen ninety two. Ryan,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: he's the only major league player also to both pitch
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: and hit for the cycle. You know what hitting for
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: the cycle is, right? Yeah?
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: Single, double, triple home run.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he hit for the cycle in the same game.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: He pitched in that game as well, eighteen eighty eight.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Why do we not know more about this guy, Jimmy Ryan. Yeah,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: he's punching sports Riders, he's hitting for the cycle. He's pitching.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: My father in law knows about him.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, ask ask him later to the just say, hey,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: we covered Jimmy Ryan on the pod today. Do you
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: know who Jimmy Ryan is? And he'll be like and
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: he'll give you the whole.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: Breakdown and be like sports Rider had it come Hey
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: tell you right now.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: He doesn't say a lot about why. I wonder why
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: what set him off? Because he was a successful player.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Because now you know the one I remember from my
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: childhood sports rider being punched was was a sports rider,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: but it was a whatever you call him. It was
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty John Stossel. Do you remember this, John Stoscile,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Remember the show twenty twenty. Yeah, famous show, Barbara Walters,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Hugh Downs and they had another reporter who would go
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: out and do these personal interest stories. John Stosseell was
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: doing whole expose on wrestling pro wrestling in the eighties.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: So it all comes back to wrestling. This was the
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: big boys. Yeah, so Macro, he asks a guy name
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Macro Wrestling, he asks a guy named doctor Death. No,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: doctor d David, doctor d David Schultz. Okay, this is
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: a wrestler who's kind of a mid carter. But he
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: asks him backstage, so is wrestling fake? And he goes,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I'll show you fake and he clocks John Stossel backstage.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: This is back in the days of KFE where you
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: protected the business. He didn't say on the air, Hey,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: this is all pre plan we staged this. He got
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: sued big time and the wrestling took a hit. But
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: there were people on the inside of wrestling who like
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: really defended him because they were like, he stood up
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: for the business.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: He just punched a reporter.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: The punch reporter there was here. I think John Stoston
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: said he had hearing damage. Who knows, but it was
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: one of those things like, I mean, he clocked him good,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: and it was like wow. And I remember that as
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: a kid being like and by then I was starting
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: to go is wrestling thing though, and so it was
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: kind of like that was at the weird right, at
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: that point in culture where there were still a percentage
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: of people growing up thinking wrestling what might be real? Yeah,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: And he was like, that's docile.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: I'm coming to all of us as kids. I mean, yeah, man,
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: it's not.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: I saw a ref throw another throw a dad out
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: of our game yesterday, oh boy, yeah, which I thought
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: he wasn't irate or anything, but like the girl on
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: our side and our team footfaulted when she served.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it only did.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: We say she crossed the line and he'd and and
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: they'd messed and that the kids run the scoreboard from
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: another team and they messed it up.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: All the time.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: You gotta watch him. They'll flip the little thing and
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: it's wrong. And they had missed a point here and there,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: so they'd already yelled. She started to turn turn around
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: for the referee thing. No, and she was just like
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: on it. It's like, do we all do that? We're like, hey,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: wrong score. You know, like you're you're trying, you know,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: you're just.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: In it, but you don't you don't go after the kid. No,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: that is that what his parent did. No, they're like,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: kids will lose their wrong score. Now why did they
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: get thrown out?
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure you just said. I mean she turned
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: around and they went and got security and oh man,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: she trying to make a point. She doesn't what the
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: parents say anything.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's like, okay, so you took that message. You're like,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: maybe we better be a little.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: Better watch the call we won.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Maybe better watch yourself.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: It's all about winning, bro, It's not about honest, it's
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: not about the kids.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: It's not about no, because years from now we're gonna care.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a look at that record and be like, hey,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: hold that trophy above your above your head like a
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: massive bowl. Wee.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: They come in second. They got some hardware. They got
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: a little metal.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, so look at that.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Hey, listen, it's all about what you can send to
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: college coaches in the email. So if you've got a
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: good picture of the medal, silver award winning, that's right.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: You have to say as your book, is your a
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: silver award winning. I've won a couple of silver I've
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: won a bronze Crown award from my first stand up
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: special that's the thing, which means I was third. And hey,
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: it's good if you're in the Olympics. Any sort of
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: medal a big deal. Yeah, yeah, you know. There's a
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: I've watched some of the the Jim Carrey clips where
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: he's accepting awards. Yeah, and they're so pointed and it's wonderful.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: But the one with the Golden Globe when he stood
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: up and he's like, uh, so good, I'm now two
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: time Globe gold.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: He's announcing the nominees, but he just says, yes, that's right,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I'm Jim care Because they announce your name, they go
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: three time Golden Globe winner Jim Carren. He goes, that's right,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I am the three time Golden He goes. When I
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: go to sleep, I don't dream like you people, I
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: dream of being four time because then golden, because then
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: maybe I'll be I'll be enough. And he doesn't crack.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: He doesn't. It's just the bat and they keep paying
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: for like Denzel and all the other people in the
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: audience who are like soaking it in. They're also there
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: hoping they win, but they're also going, yeah, this is
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: totally nonsense.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: It is a bunch of people decided because you know,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: there's a bunch of literary awards.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: That people just start them.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: And so Jim Carrey one of the one of the companies,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: and I've won this award, and I think one of
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: the ways they kind of became more legit was he
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: won an award for some children's books that he wrote
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: and went to their because you could pay to go
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: to their ceremony. Yeah, and so they have a picture
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: of Jim Carrey with that award on sitting at their
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: ceremony and they have ridden that picture.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Buddy, Oh yeah, like it's the picture you know.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: So you so when I first, you know, our people
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: applied for that awards like, hey, well look, i mean
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Jim carry.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Past winner, past winners include.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Right, But it's so funny because I don't recognize anybody else.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: I've done events like that where they go h. Past
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: speakers include Jim Kelly, and you know you start naming
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: the and now me like this is now, I'm I'm not.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: I don't want to do it. Yeah, I don't want
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, we had Jim Kelly last year.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: He's like, he went to four Super Bowls. He survived
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: throat cancer, right, and now here's this clown that we've
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: hired it.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: We don't even know, we don't know how we it's
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: not been through anything. Yeah, you need to go through something.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna go. I mean need I'm only
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: four super Bowls away.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: I love the people, Like if you were with him,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: you're like, hey, guys, between the two of us, we
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: have four super Bowl rings.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl ring.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Jim Kelly was cool. I did one event with him.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: It was a men's event. I may have shared this before,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: but it's been a long time, and he had the
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: coolest way that he had Q and A so like
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: he would go. He was a bunch of men. He
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: was in the round. So we're in this center stage
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: at the Municipal in Nashville, and it was all men,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: and he goes, if you want to ask me a question,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: you raise your hand. I'm going to throw this ball
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, and he goes, if you catch the ball,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: I'll take your question. If you drop it, just throw
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: it back to me. And so you had to like
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: take up. He's humming a tater at you. He's getting
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: it fall. Yeah. So he's throwing tight spiral Jim Kelly
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: at you. Wow. So yeah, it was just such a cool,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: like what a cool spectacle. I don't remember if anybody
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: dropped it, but I mean was making it clear, like
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: don't drop the ball.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: What if you're not that athletic and you're trying to
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: grow and he's going to shame in front.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Of the whole Well, I mean you're going to be shamed.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: They got cameras on you. It's just like a nightmare,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: like a pretty good catch to really want to ask
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: that question that Jim Kelly.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: That's why does it?
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty good.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: Should that in church? Any questions, just pull out of
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: big football.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Just yes, sister Mildred'll just throw it right at Okay,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: we don't have a sister Mildred.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: No a week clear, No, we don't doctor Mildred, doctor.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Doctor Mildred. She got her degree and that's so great.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Good for her. Yeah, don't CASV.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: It's one of my favorite stories. Was Sister Shebert rolls,
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, and somebody wanted to know. Some didn't know
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: what they were. We were talking about.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Tul friends have honna, you know, we were talking about
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: many these sister Stubert rolls are so good.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: And she goes, Sister Shewart. Is she in the first
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: service or second?
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: These are delicious, They're so good. Yeah, and she made
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: five hundred rolls for our Thanksgiving dinner.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh that's Shuberts. Well, guys, you should go check out.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: By the way, Johnny is about to get on a bus.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: I'm embarking.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: It's going to be gone for a long time.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: When that's disembarking, I'm embarking. Disembarking is when you get
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: off the bark. I am embarking on a forty eight
• 41:58
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• 42:01
  Speaker 1: uh parts unknown. Look at my website JOHNNYW dot com though,
• 42:04
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• 42:07
  Speaker 1: driving distance of you. You need to come check it out.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be great. I'm bringing some funny friends, all
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: my jokes, all my silly songs. I want to see
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: you there. Yeah, let's go. Yeah, make sure you do
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: it because it's a fun show. Well, we're gonna we're
• 42:20
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• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Oh Johnny, I know I said you never mount anything,
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: but you're doing great.
• 42:25
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• 42:28
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• 42:32
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• 42:44
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• 42:46
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• 42:50
  Speaker 2: don't want to say this, well now I'm gonna say it, okay,
• 42:54
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• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're excited to be growing and you're growing right
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  Speaker 3: Hey guys, thanks for the time you gave us today.
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