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- 0:02It's Friday and it's been a busy week in the world of true crime.
- 0:07So tonight we're going to be going over some cases that we
- 0:10talked about in depth this week, plus a couple of others that
- 0:14have some pretty important updates.
- 0:16Stick around. This video contains mature
- 0:31themes and discussions intended only for adult audiences.
- 0:35Viewer discretion is advised. Hello there, my friend, and
- 0:41welcome back to another true crime conversation with me,
- 0:44Gavin Fish, right here on this channel where we cut through the
- 0:46fluff, we cut through the sensationalism of true crime.
- 0:49We get down to the nitty gritty. And if that is your thing, then
- 0:53you have found the right place and I'm glad you did.
- 0:55Thanks for being here. Before we get going, I want to
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- 2:38We're going to do a couple headlines tonight from these
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- 3:58watching me show. Now let's dig into headlines.
- 4:11True crime headlines ow all right.
- 4:14In this segment, we like to just read what is going on in the
- 4:17world of true crime outside the cases that we are covering this
- 4:21very night. Let's start over on courttv.com.
- 4:24Dueling Karen Reed lawsuits result in confusion, delays is
- 4:28the headline dateline Plymouth, Mass.
- 4:31The wrongful dead lawsuit filed against Karen Reed is facing
- 4:35delays now that Reed is involved in a second lawsuit in a
- 4:38different county. Reed, of course, was acquitted
- 4:42on charges of second degree murder in the death of her
- 4:44boyfriend, Boston police officer John O'Keefe.
- 4:47And I really wish that John O'Keefe did not get lost in all
- 4:54of this. I'm trying to look at my buttons
- 4:56to see if I don't. I don't.
- 4:58I don't have a John O'Keefe button, but yeah, the the
- 5:03victims get lost in this, right? It all becomes about Karen Reed
- 5:06and not about John O'Keefe. However, I am on the side of
- 5:10saying that it's the problem with the State Police and the
- 5:16Canton PD that John O'keefe's killer probably will never face
- 5:20justice. Just my opinion, but anyway,
- 5:28blah blah blah. Prosecutors accused her of
- 5:30hitting him with her Lexus and leaving him to die in the snow
- 5:34after a night out drinking. His body was found on the front
- 5:36lawn of a friend and fellow police officers home in Canton
- 5:39during a Blizzard in the early morning hours of January 29th,
- 5:432022. She was found not guilty.
- 5:46O'keefe's Family While she was found not guilty of criminal
- 5:50responsibility, O'keefe's family has filed A lawsuit claiming she
- 5:54carries civil law liability for his wrongful death and emotional
- 5:58distress. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
- 6:02blah quote. Let me just do 1 little quote
- 6:05here. Obviously, we had wanted this to
- 6:07all resolve itself months ago. Mark Diller, the attorney for
- 6:10the O'Keefe family, said at Friday's hearing.
- 6:12Unfortunately, it wasn't until Monday night that the defendants
- 6:15withdrew their motion and started on a different track
- 6:18with a different model. Instead of adding parties to the
- 6:22wrongful dead lawsuit, Reed wound up filing her own lawsuit
- 6:26in a different county targeting the so-called house defendants
- 6:29as well as the investigators. OK, so there's a whole bunch
- 6:32here. But basically the wrongful dead
- 6:35lawsuit filed against Karen Reed is now facing some delays
- 6:38because the parties, basically the same parties are involved in
- 6:43different lawsuits filed by the different sides in different
- 6:48counties. So we are going to see how that
- 6:51shakes out. Moving on, I found this story
- 6:57just so sad. Missing dad found This is on
- 7:01News Nation. Missing dad found dead in garage
- 7:04is being investigated as a homicide Dateline Memphis, TN
- 7:10police say they're investigating the death of missing dad found
- 7:12nearly three weeks ago in an abandoned garage.
- 7:15Look at this garage. I don't understand the term
- 7:20abandoned garage. Is it an abandoned house?
- 7:23I mean it's a stand alone garage but OK.
- 7:27Nearly three weeks ago, they're investigating it as a homicide.
- 7:32Robert Grove's body was discovered on November 2nd in
- 7:35the 3300 block of Egypt Central Rd. in the Raleigh community.
- 7:39Grove was reported missing after he didn't return to his home on
- 7:42October 27th. The next day, family members
- 7:45tracked his phone to the Surrey Apartments and found his Chevy
- 7:49Avalanche. Let me put my do not disturb on.
- 7:55Police were called to the scene after relatives sound said they
- 7:58found blood on the front seat of his vehicle.
- 8:00Not a good sign. And he was nowhere.
- 8:03Insight. Five days later, his body was
- 8:04discovered inside the abandoned garage.
- 8:06That's on the screen right now. At the time, Grove's sister
- 8:10thanked those who helped search for him.
- 8:11So this looks like it's going to be homicide.
- 8:14We will try to keep our eye on this one because police have not
- 8:18released any details on their investigation.
- 8:22OK, we're going to need actually let me do this one next.
- 8:25And then the 4th one we're going to, we're just going to need
- 8:31transition music. I, I'm trying to find some
- 8:33standard transition music that we can use.
- 8:37But yeah we'll we'll we'll get it because sometimes sometimes
- 8:41guys just sometimes right OK there looks like an indictment
- 8:46has been handed down in the San Antonio murder of actor Jonathan
- 8:50Jos of King of the Hill fame. This brought to us on crime
- 8:54called by Kate Byrd. Dateline San Antonio, TX A Behar
- 8:59County grand jury has indicted a San Antonio man on a murder
- 9:02charge in the fatal shooting of his neighbor, Actor Jonathan Jos
- 9:07Jos, 59, was best known for voicing John Redcorn on the
- 9:11animated series King of the Hill.
- 9:13He also appeared in Parks and Recreation, True Grit, The
- 9:16Magnificent 7, Tulsa King and Ray Donovan.
- 9:22And this is Mr. Joss right here. Oh, he was brilliant.
- 9:27I loved him on Parks and Rec So sad.
- 9:36Joss's career spanned decades, with his role on King of the
- 9:39Hill earning wide recognition during the show's Emmy winning
- 9:42run from the late 1990s to the early 2000s.
- 9:45He was of Comanche and White Mountain Apache descent often
- 9:50drew on his heritage in his work.
- 9:52Sigfredo Keja Olivarez, 57, was indicted on November 17th on one
- 9:57count of murder, according to court records.
- 9:59He was initially arrested June 1, the day of the shooting, on a
- 10:03first degree murder charge. He was later released on a
- 10:06$200,000 bond. And you can finish that on
- 10:10crimecod.com. OK.
- 10:12I'm just going to give you a heads up on this one.
- 10:13In fact, you know what we should do?
- 10:15We should play. Here we go.
- 10:18I'm just going to play this. Give me a second.
- 10:21This video contains mature themes and discussions intended
- 10:24only for adult audiences. Viewer discretion is advised.
- 10:30OK, here it is. This kills me, man.
- 10:36I mean, it appears we'll get into it.
- 10:38It appears that the child escaped with escaped what could
- 10:48have become something serious, something.
- 10:50I think it's the worst crime that can be done to a person.
- 10:54Worse than murder. Headline.
- 10:57This brought to us by Jacob Charles.
- 10:59Elementary teacher Gets Probation For Stalking 11 Year
- 11:04Old Sending over 60 love letters Dateline, Anderson County, South
- 11:11Carolina A former elementary school teacher has admitted to
- 11:16stalking an 11 year old girl who once sat in his classroom, a
- 11:20case that investigators say escalated far beyond troubling
- 11:25boundaries. And bring this up here.
- 11:33According to reporting from Fox Carolina, former Star Elementary
- 11:37School teacher Dylan Robert Dukes, 27, this is Mr. Dukes
- 11:40right here, pleaded guilty this week to 1st degree harassment
- 11:46after authorities uncovered what they described as an extended
- 11:49pattern of obsessive behavior toward the child.
- 11:54Oh my goodness. I'm like this child went through
- 11:58something. I'm not minimizing what this
- 12:00child went through, but I am so glad that it was stopped before
- 12:06it got to where it ultimately could have gotten.
- 12:09Prosecutors said that Dukes wrote the girl more than 60 love
- 12:16letters, a detail repeatedly noted in arrest warrants cited
- 12:20by Fox Carolina, and showered her with cards, gift cards,
- 12:24ornaments, pictures and what authority call authorities
- 12:27called unwanted hugs that made the student uncomfortable.
- 12:31Investigators told WHNS that before summer break, Listen to
- 12:36this, Dukes gave the child a personalized box containing a
- 12:41letter for each day of the week for the entire summer.
- 12:46That's not sick at all, right? Oh, come on.
- 12:49As Fox Carolina also reported, Dukes then joined the girl's
- 12:51church after learning she would no longer be his student, a move
- 12:56authorities said was part of the ongoing harassment.
- 13:00WYFF additionally noted that the Sheriff's Office said this was
- 13:03one of the actions that prompted the July 8th investigation, when
- 13:08when detectives searched Duke's classroom, WNHSWHNS and Fox
- 13:14Carolina reported that they found numerous photos of the
- 13:17child hidden in his desk. According to the Sheriff's
- 13:20Office, the images were not sexual in nature, but their
- 13:23volume and secrecy heightened concerns.
- 13:26I'm going to stop there. Oh, my goodness.
- 13:28This guy, This guy pleaded guilty.
- 13:34Ah, all right. Yeah.
- 13:36We we need some. We need some transition music
- 13:39for sure. Here we go.
- 13:46I'm glad. I'm glad we're done with that.
- 13:48My goodness, that killed me. Let me check in to see what you
- 13:52guys are saying over in the bowl.
- 13:57Yeah, Yeah, Mooney, he was given a three-year sentence suspended
- 14:05for five years probation. Can you believe that?
- 14:09Can you believe that? And just ducky 5923 he'll move
- 14:13on to another victim. That's the scary thing, man.
- 14:17You got to throw the book at this guy.
- 14:20Got to throw the book stalking an 11 year old gave him a pro,
- 14:25gave him probation. It's just it's just crazy.
- 14:32And Potter, thank you very much for the Super sticker.
- 14:34Thanks for getting us started tonight.
- 14:35Looks like man, let's see where you guys are tuning from
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- 14:50City Cool Gavin, your face is looking so slim, says Tina May
- 14:59Tina May I am knocking on the door of 50 lbs lost in this
- 15:06little this little mission of mine to say goodbye to fat
- 15:11Gavin. I started on August 28th at 288
- 15:20lbs and today I weighed in at like 239 something, 239.8.
- 15:27I think it's what it was. So thank you for noticing.
- 15:31I want this to be the last time that Fat Gavin is with us.
- 15:34So you know, you guys know that I started very aggressively.
- 15:40I was, I was consuming less than 1000 calories a day.
- 15:45Now, you know, as as we've kind of gotten into things that has
- 15:49moved up. So yeah, thank you for noticing.
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- 16:18I think you guys got distracted by the the headlines, but yes,
- 16:24yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, no. Mooney, his teaching license was
- 16:28permanently revoked. Looks like we got Kent, Ohio and
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- 17:00I left my heart not in San Francisco, not my favorite place
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- 17:04Salt Lake City, UT, British Columbia, Northern BC Glad
- 17:08you're here. Yeah.
- 17:13All right. Good.
- 17:14All right, let's get into a couple cases, shall we?
- 17:17I am going to start. Let me come on over here, we're
- 17:25going to start with Celeste Rivas Hernandez.
- 17:27So let's remember this story. Celeste Rivas Hernandez, 14 year
- 17:32old girl, kind of a serial runaway from Lake Elsinore, CA,
- 17:38Southern California, appeared to be in a relationship with 20
- 17:43year old singer David Burke, also known as David, spelled D4,
- 17:49VD. And in September, her body, her
- 17:54remains, let's call them her remains, were found in the trunk
- 18:01of David's Tesla Model X. It was the front trunk area.
- 18:05I've got two articles that I want to bring you guys.
- 18:08This first one comes from ABC7 down there in the Los Angeles
- 18:12County area. This is just a reminder.
- 18:16We talked about this yesterday in headlines David.
- 18:18Other suspects being looked at in the death of 15 year old
- 18:21Celeste Rivas Hernandez, source says so Dateline Los Angeles.
- 18:27New details are coming to light as ABC News learns that singer
- 18:30David is considered a suspect in the death of 15 year old Celeste
- 18:34Rivas Hernandez, whose body was found inside the singer's
- 18:37impounded Tesla in September. Sources familiar with the
- 18:40investigation told ABC News that David is among the suspects who
- 18:43they are looking at, but no one has been excluded.
- 18:46While the County of Los Angeles medical examiner is not yet
- 18:49determined. There's an update on this that
- 18:51we're going to get to A cause of Rivas Hernandez's death.
- 18:54Investigators say her body was dismembered.
- 18:58Based on what they have learned in the case, investigators
- 19:01believe David played a role in her death and got help from
- 19:04others in trying to dispose of her body, sources say.
- 19:07And then I think they're, yeah, David is not cooperating with
- 19:10investigators. And yesterday I did see that
- 19:20they believed that her, that she died sometime in April or where
- 19:28I think they said spring of this year.
- 19:32So there's that. Now this came out just today.
- 19:35KTLA 5 Changes to Medical Examiner page may signal
- 19:40movement in Celeste Rivas Hernandez case I went to the
- 19:44medical examiner's case and I was able to confirm what is
- 19:48written here in this article by Peter Wilgorin from KTLA 5.
- 19:54For weeks, KTLA has been following the case of Celeste
- 19:58Rivas Hernandez, the missing Lake Elsinore teenager who was
- 20:01found dead in the trunk of the Tesla linked to rising singer
- 20:04David. We've been waiting for the final
- 20:07autopsy report to be released on case #2025-14252, the official
- 20:12case number with a Los Angeles County medical examiner.
- 20:15The case file had been searchable, with A cause of
- 20:18death listed as deferred pending additional tests.
- 20:22On Friday. This day right here, November
- 20:2521st, that changed and the update may indicate movement on
- 20:29that key document. Now when you search the case
- 20:32number, all fields appear empty. 00 returns.
- 20:40KTLA reached out to the medical Examiner's office and is
- 20:44awaiting confirmation on whether the autopsy and deferred results
- 20:47are now complete. It's also possible that a
- 20:50security hold has been placed on the case in anticipation of the
- 20:53autopsy's release. As KTLA has reported, the
- 20:57autopsy is critical in determining whether a crime
- 21:00occurred beyond what LAPD previously referred to as
- 21:03concealment of a body. This past week, sources
- 21:07confirmed KTLA what TMZ first reported.
- 21:10Singer David is now being viewed by LAPD as a suspect in the
- 21:15Hernandez case. Officially, LAPD has said only
- 21:19the investigation is ongoing. There are no updates.
- 21:22As of November 21st, there have been no charges, no arrests.
- 21:27The LA County District Attorney's Office tells KTLA
- 21:30it's still has not been presented with a case.
- 21:33Any decision to prosecute will likely be made once the autopsy
- 21:38is officially released. So, yeah, just a little little
- 21:46bump in that, that that there is some apparently some movement
- 21:51there. We might see results soon.
- 21:59I, I kind of in my mind kind of felt like December, maybe
- 22:03January was when we were going to hear about this because I
- 22:06think toxicology would have a lot to do with it.
- 22:09Remember when we had Joseph Scott Morgan on what last week
- 22:12or the week before, he talked about the importance of
- 22:15toxicology in cases like this, especially with a, with remains
- 22:21of a poor little girl. Oh my goodness, being well, it's
- 22:31they believe that she died in the spring.
- 22:34So that means spring, summer, part of fall, that the remains
- 22:39were somewhere possibly in that front trunk of the Tesla Model
- 22:44X. Emmy Nikolov, yes, we're going
- 22:49to get we're going to get to Ashley's court case.
- 22:51Yes, yes, yes. Mia dog love, Mia dog love.
- 22:57This is your first live. Thanks for being here.
- 23:01I appreciate that. Wendy, Wendy Joan 55, welcome to
- 23:06Fanatic. And thank you very much for
- 23:08being here and being a new member.
- 23:10I deeply appreciate that. Thanks so much.
- 23:12OK, so that is our update on Celeste again.
- 23:17We will continue to keep our eye on that.
- 23:22Now let's move our attention, shall we over to the Anna Kepner
- 23:27case. Let's get a closer picture of
- 23:29Anna Find. Yeah, that's a good one.
- 23:33Anna Kepner. Remember the Anna Kepner was on
- 23:38a Carnival cruise with her dad, her stepmom and her step
- 23:45siblings I believe. I believe there were two other
- 23:50step siblings, maybe 3 now, I can't remember it.
- 23:53Anyway, when she disappeared, her dad looked and looked and
- 23:58looked and she was eventually found stuffed under a bed,
- 24:02wrapped in a blanket, covered in life jackets.
- 24:06Any of you who have had AI think they call them staterooms.
- 24:10They're not all that stately. Not the one I have been in
- 24:14anyway. I'm sure there are some stately
- 24:18ones. You can kind of picture where
- 24:20they store those life preservers and so forth.
- 24:24So, yeah, stuffed in there and get a closer up.
- 24:31There she is, cutie. Little 18 year old senior in
- 24:34high school just ready to graduate.
- 24:36And this is just heartbreaking. But we do have an update since
- 24:40we talked about this just yesterday.
- 24:42So come with me over to this article from ABC News.
- 24:47Teen found dead on Carnival Cruise died by asphyxiation
- 24:51resulting from a bar hold, according to a source.
- 24:55Bar hold meaning a choke hold. OK Anna Kepner, a teenager who
- 25:02was found dead on a Carnival Horizon cruise ship this month,
- 25:06died by asphyxiation resulting from a bar hold an arm across
- 25:10the neck, a source briefed on the investigation told ABC News
- 25:15on Friday. Investigators also found two
- 25:18bruises on the side of her neck, the source said.
- 25:23The FBI has continued to decline to comment, citing the ongoing
- 25:27investigation. The Miami-Dade medical
- 25:30examiner's office declined to comment Friday.
- 25:32According to the source, the preliminary information
- 25:35indicates there were no signs of SA, and there did not appear to
- 25:39be drugs or alcohol in Kepner's system.
- 25:42Autopsy and toxicology reports that could confirm those details
- 25:46have not been completed. And then of course, yesterday we
- 25:53covered pretty much all of this, that it does appear that TH the
- 25:59Hudson boy age 16 is suspected in this, though Chantelle Hudson
- 26:11pleaded the 5th. So I don't know if she's trying
- 26:15to cover herself as well. But that is the update
- 26:19asphyxiation. I think that I think that we
- 26:21probably could have guessed that either that or like alcohol
- 26:25poisoning or something like that, an overdose of some sort.
- 26:29But I'm, I'm just, I'm torn up for this girl's family.
- 26:34Look at what an adorable child this is.
- 26:37She had her whole life ahead of her.
- 26:39And I, you know, it does not take much guys and gals and
- 26:48everybody. It does not take much to lose
- 26:52consciousness and indeed lose your life by being choked out.
- 26:59Now asphyxiation, asphyxiation is different than strangulation.
- 27:06Strangulation is when the blood flow is, is cut off like those
- 27:12two bruises on the side that would be considered
- 27:16strangulation. We are cutting off the blood
- 27:19flow. Blood or oxygen does not flow up
- 27:22into the brain. You lose consciousness and
- 27:24ultimately result in death. No, this is asphyxiation.
- 27:28That means that the airway was impeded.
- 27:32So an arm bar. I can't do it to myself, but you
- 27:36know what I mean. Across the front of the neck,
- 27:39perhaps collapsing the windpipe, making it impossible to breathe.
- 27:44That is, that is what asphyxiation is.
- 27:49And of course, this is coming from an anonymous source we
- 27:52don't have, We don't know who this source is.
- 27:55It's a reputable news organization.
- 27:57That's why I wanted to share it with you guys, especially in
- 28:00light of the fact that it's just this week that we cover this
- 28:03case. It was just yesterday.
- 28:05So to me, asphyxiation is way more violent because
- 28:12strangulation can be done with something like 3 to 7 lbs of
- 28:16pressure on the side of the neck.
- 28:21Asphyxiation that that is way more violent.
- 28:23So we will keep our eye on this case of Anna Kepner.
- 28:30Let's see what you guys see, if you guys have anything to say
- 28:32about this over here. Who do we have here?
- 28:40One man, trash member, a fanatic for 11 months.
- 28:43Thank you very much for that. See if there's anything else.
- 28:49So and Cassie says so Clearly this was foul play, not flower
- 28:53plays. Foul play seems like a very
- 29:00specific description of strangulation.
- 29:03Yeah, I've. I've had.
- 29:04I've had lots of Brian. Why am I blanking on Brian's
- 29:10name who has come on to the show?
- 29:12And then my buddy Kenny Clark, who is a quadruple board
- 29:16certified forensic pathologist, taught me those details.
- 29:24Alicia, 100 and 9354, says she was going to join the military
- 29:27after graduation, which is a great career choice.
- 29:31Had her head on straight. Poor girl.
- 29:34Yeah. And Lynn Taylor, 7921, Gavin.
- 29:37And we don't know of any medical problems she may have had, like
- 29:41asthma or something. Yeah.
- 29:43Yeah. Tina May.
- 29:45I've heard of sibling rivalry and gotten into more than a few
- 29:48spots with my brothers in my time, but Gee, yeah.
- 29:53That's it's it's it's just tragically sad.
- 30:00Tragically, tragically sad. OK, so that is our update on
- 30:07Anna Kepner. What is next?
- 30:10Ah yes, I just wanted to do a quick update if you guys weren't
- 30:14on yesterday. Just a quick updated poo that in
- 30:21the trial of Brian Walsh in the death of his wife, Anna Walsh,
- 30:28the jury has been seated 16 jurors.
- 30:31SO12 jurors and four alternates have been seated, though we are
- 30:35not going to get until to opening statements in this case
- 30:40until the beginning of December. But let's read from WCVB in
- 30:46Boston, written by Sarah Congee. Dateline Dedham, Mass.
- 30:52Jury selection was completed Thursday.
- 30:54Yesterday in the murder trial, Brian Walsh, the Cohasset masked
- 30:58man accused of killing and dismembering his wife in 2023.
- 31:03Nine of the jurors are women, seven are men.
- 31:06The professions of the jurors range from art teacher to
- 31:09someone who works in insurance, a chief financial officer, a
- 31:13scientist, a tech writer and someone who works in social
- 31:16work. Under the judge's order, all of
- 31:19the jurors have been asked to refrain from using social media
- 31:21and stop watching or reading the news.
- 31:24Yeah, good luck with that. But stay impartial, jury, stay
- 31:27impartial. During interviews, the jurors
- 31:30had to commit to these constraints or what Judge
- 31:33Frenieri referred to as a big ask, in order to be selected for
- 31:36the jury. Well, that makes it easy to get
- 31:38off of. Get out of jury duty, though.
- 31:42We shouldn't be trying to get out of jury duty.
- 31:44We should. We should be doing our civic
- 31:47duty. So jurors will not return to the
- 31:50Dedham courthouse until December 1 for opening statements.
- 31:54So that is what is happening there in the trial of Brian
- 31:57Walsh. Now, remember, let's bring up
- 32:01this photo. Mr. Walsh pleaded guilty to two
- 32:05of the three counts on the morning of what was supposed to
- 32:10be jury selection. They had to postpone that until
- 32:14later in the day. We had a great conversation with
- 32:19Josh Ritter from Courtroom Confidential in this on Tuesday.
- 32:23He basically he pleaded guilty to lying to police, you know,
- 32:30misleading police and to improper disposal of Anna
- 32:35Walsh's body. So I don't know what I honestly
- 32:41don't know what the strategy is there.
- 32:44Josh said if he would have been the defense attorney on this
- 32:47one, he would not have taken that strategy.
- 32:51He's like, just take it all the way to the end.
- 32:54If you feel like the prosecution, you know, did prove
- 33:00their case, then do the, the, the pleading guilty to those
- 33:04things or just take it all the way to the jury because he, the
- 33:08plea, there's no plea deal. He didn't deal with the
- 33:13prosecution. He just, he just threw himself
- 33:16on the mercy of the court. So that's where we are on the
- 33:20Anna Walsh trial. That will be kind of on hold
- 33:23until December 1st, though. I am curious, I am so curious if
- 33:29a plea to count number one first degree murder is going to happen
- 33:36in the interim. We've got 9 days here.
- 33:40A lot can happen in nine days. Will he go to trial or will he
- 33:43plead? Oh, I am on the edge of my seat
- 33:50on that one. I don't.
- 33:51I don't know, Heather, whatever says.
- 33:58I'm guessing this will be the strangest defense I'll ever
- 34:01hear, Moon Russian says. I also heard more shenanigans
- 34:05with Brian Koeberger and Ann Taylor I haven't heard of.
- 34:08I haven't heard those. I should.
- 34:11I should check those out. Yeah.
- 34:20Yeah. Interesting conversation you
- 34:21guys are having there. Yeah, I real happy 33 is saying.
- 34:26Not holding my breath for a trial.
- 34:30Interesting. Yeah, he got a lot of a lot of
- 34:33time there, though. I mean, take your chances with
- 34:36the jury. That's what I think.
- 34:39Take your chances with the jury and we will all be keeping an
- 34:44eye on that one. OK, let's move on over to this
- 34:51case, shall we? The case of Melody Buzzard. 9
- 35:00year old Melody Buzzard has been missing now for more than a
- 35:03month and we have not seen, we have not seen or heard from
- 35:12Melody since October 9th when she was last seen at the
- 35:16Colorado Utah border. But as you guys know in our
- 35:19update yesterday her mother Melody Buzzard wrong 1 Where are
- 35:24we going? Ah, wrong one.
- 35:27There we go. Melody Buzzard, her mom was
- 35:32arrested on a false imprisonment charge.
- 35:36And there the update today, well, it was last night, is that
- 35:46that charge has been dropped against Ashley Buzzard.
- 35:49Here we are. ABC News Ashley Buzzard's false
- 35:53imprisonment charge dropped Melody still missing A false
- 35:58imprisonment charge has been dropped against Ashley Buzzard,
- 36:00the mom of missing 9 year old Melody Buzzard, according to
- 36:03Santa Barbara ABC affiliate KEYT.
- 36:06At Thursday's preliminary hearing, it was yesterday the
- 36:09judge dismissed the case after hearing audio of a conversation
- 36:13between Ashley Buzzard and the alleged victim, Tyler Brewer,
- 36:17and found the audio didn't match what Brewer told law enforcement
- 36:20and the media. So he was wearing a wire.
- 36:26Does that mean that law enforcement heard that and
- 36:29agreed with him? I don't know.
- 36:31Buzzard had been arrested on the false imprisonment charge on
- 36:34November 7th and she pleaded not guilty last week.
- 36:37Brewer claimed Ashley Buzzard armed herself with a box cutter
- 36:41and kept him from leaving her home on November 6th.
- 36:44Meanwhile, the search is ongoing for Buzzard's 9 year old
- 36:48daughter, Melody, who was last seen on October 9th at the Utah
- 36:52Colorado border. Buzzard has not been charged in
- 36:55her daughter's disappearance, but authorities have said she's
- 36:58not cooperating with the investigation.
- 37:00You know, one of the most, I guess dissatisfying, really
- 37:04frustrating things about this case is that Ashley Buzzard is
- 37:08remaining tight lipped. I would give that advice to all
- 37:15of us. If we are in some kind of a
- 37:18situation where we are being investigated by police, we
- 37:23should all remain tight lipped. But it's still infuriating
- 37:29because we've got a missing 9 year old girl and the person who
- 37:32can help us the most is Melody. And then it just goes into some
- 37:38of the other other details, the case, which we all know.
- 37:42But yeah, those charges have been dropped.
- 37:45I don't know what law enforcement was thinking there
- 37:47if they heard the audio. And we're like, that is, that is
- 37:52definitely false imprisonment. And then the prosecutors are
- 37:55like, Oh yeah, yeah, that's definitely false imprisonment.
- 37:57And then the judge is like, what are you guys talking about?
- 38:00False. That's no, this isn't false
- 38:01imprisonment. What are you talking about then?
- 38:07That kind of smacks to me of prosecutorial and law law
- 38:11enforcement overreach, which I'm not happy about either.
- 38:16Ultimately, I just want this little girl found and in a safe
- 38:22place. I mean, we don't even have a
- 38:25good photo of her because this was taken years before she went
- 38:30missing. These are the latest photos we
- 38:33have, which were from screen grabs from security at the car
- 38:37rental place. I think it was an Enterprise car
- 38:40rental. Fun fact, I worked for Alamo
- 38:44Rent a Car when I was young and just really needed a minimum
- 38:49wage job. So I'm always looking for
- 38:53competitors to Alamo who I have not worked for since 1997.
- 38:58I don't know why. Oh, that's a tangent.
- 39:01Gavin, Gavin. Gavin.
- 39:12Yeah, that was definitely a tangent.
- 39:13Definitely a tangent, but yeah, anyway, these are the only
- 39:18photos that we have of her. So that is what we have on the
- 39:21update there. OK, one last update that I have
- 39:25to bring to you guys, which actually we talked about last
- 39:29night in headlines, but just in case you missed it, I wanted to
- 39:33bring this up again. This is Kada Scott.
- 39:36Now Kada Scott was a 24 year well she was 23, not quite 24
- 39:43year old young woman from Philadelphia, recent graduate
- 39:47graduate from Penn State who was killed by a gunshot to the head
- 39:56shortly after leaving her place of work which was a was an
- 40:01assisted care facility. The man arrested in her
- 40:07murderous man in Keon King. From the information that we
- 40:11have so far, I do feel like Mr. King.
- 40:15He's probably rightly accused here.
- 40:17Of course, he's innocent until proven guilty, but does not
- 40:21matter to Kada who is gone from this world and to her family who
- 40:27are living with the fallout of such a violent and tragic end.
- 40:37This from CBS News Katie Scott's family carries on her legacy by
- 40:41launching foundation on her 24th birthday.
- 40:43And I just I know that some of you have already seen this, but
- 40:47I wanted to just reiterate it because we want to be supportive
- 40:50of the Scott family here, right? If there's anything that I have
- 40:54learned about the true crime community, it is that we feel
- 40:58sympathy for victims families. We care for them, we care about
- 41:02them, we love them. And so when this foundation is
- 41:08finally started and they have a website up and everything, I
- 41:12hope that you and me and everybody within our community
- 41:17will help with this foundation. OK.
- 41:21Tuesday, November 18th would have been Kada Scott's 24th
- 41:23birthday, her family says. Now the family is announcing the
- 41:27formation of the Kada Scott Foundation, a way to keep her
- 41:30memory alive. Listen to this by offering
- 41:34scholarships to young women pursuing higher education,
- 41:36creating business micro grants and providing mentorship.
- 41:41Quote Kaita was ambitious, kind, creative, had an entrepreneurial
- 41:44spirit, and unfortunately her life was cut short, Scott's
- 41:48father, Kevin Scott, told CBS News.
- 41:51But with this foundation, the idea is basically to give the
- 41:53next generation of young women in Philadelphia the opportunity
- 41:57that she deserved but didn't achieve because it was taken
- 42:02from her, not because she couldn't achieve it, but because
- 42:07it was the opportunity was taken from her.
- 42:13So this one says Scott was months away from graduating from
- 42:16Penn State. I've heard different, different
- 42:20reports. But Kevin Scott said the family
- 42:23greatly appreciates how the city has supported them in the days
- 42:26and weeks since Kata's death. Scott's public funeral on
- 42:32November 8th at the Mount Airy Church of God in Christ drew
- 42:35hundreds of people from across the city and region, including
- 42:38Mayor Shirelle Parker. Pennsylvania Governor Josh
- 42:40Shapiro and I don't like not a fan of Josh Shapiro, but good
- 42:48for him for, for going. Obviously the city of
- 42:52Philadelphia and Pennsylvania is kind of adopted.
- 42:54Kata Scott is one of our daughters and and good for the
- 42:59governor for doing that, Both of whom spoke highly of the former
- 43:02Miss Pennsylvania pageant competitor.
- 43:05So those are our updates this week.
- 43:09We're going to just check your comments before we go Mooney
- 43:19asking about the Brian Walsh trial.
- 43:25If it happens, I my plan is to stream it.
- 43:27Yes. Ah, the understanding is that
- 43:33she recorded the conversation a California.
- 43:38Oh well, California is a two party consent state.
- 43:42Interesting. Per Ashley Banfield, the judge.
- 43:49So getting back over to Melody Buzzard, we will.
- 43:53Per Ashley Banfield, the judge yesterday didn't allow any
- 43:55mention of Melody in court. OK.
- 44:00It was Ashley that produced the secret recording, not the guy
- 44:02that filed the complaint. Gotcha.
- 44:07Getting back over to CADA, is there any information that CADA
- 44:13knew King? So there's nothing that I have
- 44:18seen that directly ties them. However, there they were texting
- 44:22each other. So I believe I, I don't think
- 44:26it's a far leap to to jump to the conclusion that they did
- 44:31know each other. Anything else?
- 44:34OK, no other comments. So let's move on to the final
- 44:39segment of our show, our little Showtime for three questions, by
- 44:44the way. Well, let's just get in three
- 44:46questions. Three questions how?
- 44:55All right, guys, listen, this little final segment of the
- 45:00show, I allow you to ask me anything.
- 45:03Nothing is off limits. Everything's on the table.
- 45:06Just send your questions over to three questions at
- 45:08gavinfish.com. Having said that, having said
- 45:13that, this is my fault what we're about to go through.
- 45:19I've tried my hardest not to think about it too much.
- 45:23This is my fault for saying everything's on the table.
- 45:27So and I keep the questioners. I keep, I keep them anonymous.
- 45:33Maybe I shouldn't unless they ask for anonymity, But I've just
- 45:37been putting the questions up. I probably should be using, I
- 45:43probably should be using their names.
- 45:45But in the in two of the questions tonight, they came
- 45:47from the same person and they asked for anonymity.
- 45:50So we are going to happily grant that, continue our little
- 45:54tradition of granting that. But again, I, I'm just, I'm just
- 45:59going to say I'm sorry. This is my fault.
- 46:03Question number one. This isn't the one, the question
- 46:06#2 it is my fault. And I'm very sorry.
- 46:10But I, but I have solemnly promised that I will answer the
- 46:16questions. Therefore, I am under covenant
- 46:20to do so, so I will do it. OK, this one's an easy question
- 46:26for me. It says, being a reporter, have
- 46:27you ever had to witness an execution?
- 46:30No. Is the answer to that.
- 46:32If so, could you tell about it? I can't because I never have.
- 46:38If you haven't, would you? If you were ever asked, yes.
- 46:43Yes, I would. I I personally feel that the DP
- 46:49should be used more often. I understand completely the
- 46:53other point of view, and I respect the other point of view,
- 46:59the idea that it's just too dangerous to put to death people
- 47:03who may be innocent. I get it.
- 47:08However, from my point of view I think that it should be.
- 47:13It should be used more often, I think, especially in egregious
- 47:18cases where the victims are children and things like that.
- 47:23There there's just no other way for me that that justice can be
- 47:28meted out in in the like, in those cases.
- 47:31Like I it just kills me that Stephen Stearns is going to be
- 47:35in a jail cell for the rest of his unnatural life.
- 47:39I hate that. And yeah, so and I, and I think
- 47:47that it's important, like, I don't know that anybody wants to
- 47:51see somebody being killed because that's what it is.
- 47:54It is, it is not a passing. It's not being in the same room
- 47:58as your grandmother as she draws her final breath.
- 48:01That's a different thing. And I've had those experiences
- 48:04and they're beautiful. But it's important that there be
- 48:07witnesses who can journal what happened.
- 48:13And I would be, I would be honored to be one of those
- 48:17people who offers that, that journal.
- 48:20Now, having said that, the, the states that I've spent most of
- 48:25my life in, California and Pennsylvania, while they do
- 48:29technically have the penalty on the books, they, they, they put
- 48:34a moratorium on them. So I don't think that would ever
- 48:36happen in my case. OK, question #2 And again, I'm
- 48:42sorry, but I did say anything's on the table.
- 48:46I'm wondering if you guys are wondering what's guys?
- 48:54Let's see, you're asking questions.
- 48:58This is not how this game works. You got to e-mail me your
- 49:00questions, three questions at gavinfish.com.
- 49:09But thank you. Definitely, definitely send them
- 49:14my way. OK.
- 49:15Very sorry. Very sorry for this next
- 49:18question. It's all my fault.
- 49:20Here we go. All right.
- 49:24The question is, please settle this debate between me and my
- 49:28husband. And I have a feeling that it
- 49:30does not matter what I say, it will not settle the debate.
- 49:35OK. How often do you feel it is
- 49:38appropriate to Make Love with your spouse?
- 49:43What am I? Doctor Ruth here, guys, I'm not
- 49:47Doctor Ruth. I, I have no, I have, I have no.
- 49:56And I'm not uncomfortable with the subject either.
- 50:01It's just so left field of what we normally talk about.
- 50:05But I have no bona fides here right.
- 50:08I have no there's nothing in the sciences anything that I have
- 50:11learned that would help me help my fellow espoused viewers here.
- 50:22I but this is what I think there was.
- 50:25There's a man who's my parents age, who's a friend of my dad
- 50:31and, and I love him to death. I think he's terrific.
- 50:34He's got such a positive outlook.
- 50:36So does his wife. She is lovely.
- 50:39They are both just wonderful people.
- 50:41And he's a little, he's a little irreverent.
- 50:45And one time I was, I was asking him and mind you, he would have
- 50:49been in his 70s at this point, right?
- 50:53Like you guys just are always so happy.
- 50:56What is the secret to that? And he goes, oh, yeah, lots of
- 51:00sex. That's what he said.
- 51:05I was like, it was one of those moments for me.
- 51:11But yes, the the expression of love is physical and intimate.
- 51:18And it should happen, I think often, as often as both of you
- 51:24think so. I don't know.
- 51:26I don't know how old you are because there are also chemical
- 51:29things going on, right, in both ladies and gents that change
- 51:33things. You know, I was, I was thinking
- 51:37about cruises because we're talking about the Anna Kepner
- 51:40murder. The only cruise I've ever been
- 51:41on was my honeymoon. I definitely am not keeping pace
- 51:46with honeymoon Gavin, Right. But I do think that sex is
- 51:52important. You should be making love to one
- 51:55another ladies, which I know 90% of you are on this channel that
- 52:01watch me Us guys are visual creatures are visually motivated
- 52:09and aroused creatures. So if you can make the visual
- 52:14pleasing, it can happen anytime you want.
- 52:19Also, maybe you don't want it, but you love your spouse and you
- 52:23know he wants it, so you do it. And that's that's just a kind,
- 52:28that's a kindness that is an act of service.
- 52:34So how often, I would say as often within healthy reasons.
- 52:40I mean, if there's mental health issues or something like that
- 52:44where there are addictions or something that might make things
- 52:49unhealthy, of course, those are the outliers.
- 52:51Those are the exceptions. But for us, it's anytime one of
- 52:54us wants to. And you should be doing it on
- 52:57the frequent that I don't know. That's not going to settle the
- 53:01debate. It doesn't matter how many, what
- 53:03numbers I say, it's not going to settle the debate.
- 53:08So perhaps this is an unsatisfying answer, but that is
- 53:13my answer nonetheless. And I would imagine that you
- 53:19guys have something to say about this.
- 53:20Let me let. Let's see.
- 53:26Let's. Oh, hold on.
- 53:27Yeah, we've got some. We've got some.
- 53:30Well, yeah, I, I am squirming a little bit trying to be
- 53:33diplomatic. It's it's not because, oh, I
- 53:35pushed the wrong button. It's not because I am
- 53:39uncomfortable with the conversation.
- 53:40I just, yeah, I don't want to hurt anybody, Felicia says.
- 53:47I'm a church counselor. Three times per week is average.
- 53:50I would imagine it's not average for the average 75 year old, but
- 53:54probably for the average 3545 year old.
- 53:56Yeah, probably. Oh, I'm a cutie.
- 54:00I'm as cute as the day is long. Pam.
- 54:05The e-mail address is spelledoutthreequestions@gavinfish.com
- 54:10spelled out. Yes, my inflection does rise
- 54:14with stress. Let's see, my mentor was an
- 54:21older man, says Heather. Whatever who died 25 years ago,
- 54:25couple of years before that, he got a tattoo of his wife on his
- 54:27forearm. He spoke along those lines too.
- 54:29Great couple. Yeah, Yeah.
- 54:32Does Cluevelta help in this department?
- 54:35Well, I, I don't know what the clinical trials Speaking of
- 54:40which, I am, I am sporting the Cluevelta fit today.
- 54:43This is available on gavinfish.com.
- 54:46I don't know what the clinical trials say.
- 54:48However, if you can, if you can trust your spouse, I think it
- 54:57helps in this department. I think so.
- 55:02OK. And Emmy Nikolov just sent you
- 55:06my questions. OK, Well, when they come in,
- 55:09they will get in the queue. Thank you very much.
- 55:12Thank you very much for sending them off.
- 55:14Are they going to be so inappropriate?
- 55:17You know what, Gavin? Don't get sidetracked.
- 55:19Here we go. Let's go to question #3 for
- 55:23three questions. I'm almost out of time.
- 55:26If you had to teach college course tomorrow, what subject
- 55:29could you teach? Well, with no prep?
- 55:35Oh, yeah. I, I think I could teach a
- 55:42Spanish course. I think I could teach a Spanish
- 55:45course pretty darn well because I had to learn Spanish as I,
- 55:48when I was, I mean, I was still a young man.
- 55:50I was 1920, but I learned the language by going through the
- 55:59process of learning the language and then I did it again and
- 56:02again. So I know the process of
- 56:04learning a language. I think that I could teach
- 56:07anywhere from beginning to advanced Spanish courses.
- 56:10I could probably do Spanish literature pretty well just
- 56:12because when it comes to when it comes to literature, that is
- 56:17kind of where I'm drawn just because I really don't like,
- 56:21really don't like fiction all that much.
- 56:24I'm, I'm a huge non fiction reader and so I like to
- 56:27challenge myself in foreign languages to read.
- 56:31And I usually choose fiction because I don't know, they're,
- 56:35they're just classics. Don Quixote.
- 56:38Recently I've been doing Martine Fiero.
- 56:44So yeah, I think I could do Spanish.
- 56:47I could do I could do some I could do some information
- 56:53technology courses. I could do I could do some
- 56:56computer science courses. I could probably do some
- 56:59beginning, you know, some 1O11O2 level data analysis courses.
- 57:10Yeah, I think I could. I could do AI think A
- 57:18102-101-0102 level aerodynamics course probably that's something
- 57:25that's fascinating me my whole life.
- 57:27I've done a lot of study on that.
- 57:32I yeah, that's probably, that's probably what I would do.
- 57:37Now let me preview real quick Emmy's questions.
- 57:40Let me see if they came in and we we might do these next week.
- 57:44Let's see, Emmy. Interesting.
- 57:53Interesting. Yeah, we will.
- 57:56We will put those into the queue.
- 57:58Thank you for those questions. All right, so guys, gals,
- 58:05everybody, this is the last live stream of the week.
- 58:09Thank you very much for being here.
- 58:10We will return on Monday at 7:30 PM Eastern.
- 58:14Remember though, starting December 1st we will be doing it
- 58:19on at 6:00 PM. You know what?
- 58:24I didn't look just I should have done this announcement too.
- 58:28But because we are going to be having family in town for
- 58:31Thanksgiving, we will not be doing a live stream on the 27th.
- 58:35But I wish, I will wish you a happy Thanksgiving then.
- 58:39But I hope you all, if you're traveling, if you're going
- 58:42about, if you got people coming into town, family, friends,
- 58:45loved ones, boy, I hope that you have a terrific Thanksgiving.
- 58:49But we will not be live streaming that night for obvious
- 58:52reasons. I will be in a food coma, guys.
- 58:55I have basically been starving myself since August.
- 58:59I am going to be eating the stuff that I want to eat.
- 59:02I won't go overboard. I won't go overboard.
- 59:04Won't let all this hard work go to waste.
- 59:06That is my plan. OK, so we will see you.
- 59:08We will see you on Monday, 7:30 PM Eastern.
- 59:11With that, I bid you. I do.
- 59:13Thank you very much for being here and I'll see you on the
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