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Reconnecting with Purpose: How to Recharge Your Life's Battery · Hardiness with Dr Paul Taylor

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  Speaker 1: Tim Jack Adams, Welcome.
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  Speaker 2: To the Paul, thanks for the invitation.
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  Speaker 1: Pleasure to have you on here.
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  Speaker 3: I think we are very aligned in our approach, having
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  Speaker 3: having had a good look through your book, energized and
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  Speaker 3: having just done a battery check actually with your app.
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  Speaker 3: And I think there's going to be lots of violent agreement.
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  Speaker 3: But just give our listeners a little bit of a
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  Speaker 3: flavor of your background and without I'm not even going
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  Speaker 3: to preface it. Just tell them a little bit about
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  Speaker 3: your background and how you got to where you are, no,
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  Speaker 3: and then we'll jump into.
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  Speaker 2: It perfect Paul. So probably a little bit different from
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  Speaker 2: most you know on this kind of trail. But I
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  Speaker 2: started off in the as a dive master, so back
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  Speaker 2: when I was twenty one years old, made you know,
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  Speaker 2: I did the world, you know, the well worn track
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  Speaker 2: of going overseas, working London, you know, flying around Europe
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  Speaker 2: and Asia and living in all sorts of different places.
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  Speaker 2: And when I came back to the Gold Coast, I
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  Speaker 2: had sort of you know, dreadlocks halfway down my back
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  Speaker 2: and if you can imagine that now, probably the best
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  Speaker 2: looking I'd ever been, to be honest, mate, And once
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  Speaker 2: I cut them off, all the girls left. But when
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  Speaker 2: I was twenty one, mate, I actually became a dive
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  Speaker 2: master or I was doing my dive master training and
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  Speaker 2: this was through Kira Dive on the Gold Coast and
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  Speaker 2: I was just an absolute froth monster when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to water. My whole life's been spent in the water.
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  Speaker 2: And so as I was doing my dive master's course,
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  Speaker 2: all the way through, there was two guys that meant
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  Speaker 2: a lot to me. One was Rudy, he was a
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  Speaker 2: Fijian dive instructor and the other one was Mal and
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  Speaker 2: Mail was my skipper. And so the whole way through
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  Speaker 2: on learning how to do my coxin's and how to
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  Speaker 2: become a dive master. And so these boys pretty much
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  Speaker 2: every single day of my life, you know, we'd be
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  Speaker 2: hanging out with these gens, having beers, taking people out diving,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, life was amazing. Man. That happened for
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  Speaker 2: about five five years, and in two thousand and nine
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  Speaker 2: I started up a company called Watersports Grea and this
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  Speaker 2: was just for my love of the ocean, you know,
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  Speaker 2: wanted to take people on great adventures and not just
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  Speaker 2: scuba diving, but snorkeling with turtles and padder body and
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  Speaker 2: kayaking made anything to really get people to reconnect back
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  Speaker 2: to nature, and I took Mal with me. So Mal
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  Speaker 2: and I started the snorkel with the turtles, you know,
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  Speaker 2: tours and look, to be honest, A, my life was
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  Speaker 2: just absolutely pitchure perfect. You know, we'd catch up at
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  Speaker 2: eight o'clock in the morning, we'd gear up our customers,
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  Speaker 2: we'd go for a beautiful fifteen minute boat ride past Fingle,
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  Speaker 2: hanging out with our little inshored bottlenosed dolphins and basically
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  Speaker 2: spend the next couple of hours, mate, just hanging out
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  Speaker 2: with turtles and whoabie gongs and every now and again
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  Speaker 2: we'd see manna rays and Mate, we did this for
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  Speaker 2: years and years, and you know we come back to
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  Speaker 2: the boat house and have a beer and a good
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  Speaker 2: old conversation and Mate, you know I thought, I honestly
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  Speaker 2: thought Mal was one of the happiest blokes over you.
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  Speaker 2: And he was about ten years my senior. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: one day we're having too he is new on the
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  Speaker 2: you know, the boat house and customers had left, and
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  Speaker 2: you know his two kids were running around Max in
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  Speaker 2: Indy and as always, Mate, see tomorrow mail yep, Timbo,
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  Speaker 2: see tomorrow same time, same place, and Mate, he took
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  Speaker 2: his life that night and really the same place I
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  Speaker 2: left him, Mate, the exact same place I left him.
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  Speaker 2: And here I was made thinking this, this bloke's the
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  Speaker 2: happiest guy that I knew. I just wanted to be
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  Speaker 2: just like him. And yeah, it shocked our world. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's all of our friends. No one saw it coming.
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  Speaker 2: There was no note and Mate, that was you know,
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  Speaker 2: that was probably almost a decade ago now that that happened.
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  Speaker 2: And look, I've got five brothers. We're fucking useless at
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  Speaker 2: talking about emotional intelligence. It took me till the age
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  Speaker 2: of thirty I'm forty three now to realize I've actually
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  Speaker 2: got a heart. I didn't know what that thing was
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  Speaker 2: in my chest that was pumping mate online yours keep
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  Speaker 2: me alive. And though you could use it to be
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  Speaker 2: empathetic and emotional and all of those things. So there
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  Speaker 2: was two two contrast stark contrasts that happened to how
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  Speaker 2: I got to be on this podcast. One was that
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  Speaker 2: that was a big shift in my life on how
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  Speaker 2: to understand to get guys to open up. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I'd had a brother in and out of rehabs for
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  Speaker 2: ten years. I've had a couple other mates, you know,
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  Speaker 2: take their lives around me. The other thing that happened
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  Speaker 2: at the same time, around twenty twelve was I was
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  Speaker 2: sitting under you know, this red ten. It was a
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  Speaker 2: three by three meter of red ten, hiring out paddleboards
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  Speaker 2: and kayakes on cutch and creek and it's just one
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  Speaker 2: of those glorious days, you know. The crystal clear water
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  Speaker 2: was coming in from the Pacific Ocean. People were frolicking
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  Speaker 2: and pondering and having fun. And I just got this,
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  Speaker 2: this simple question just popped into my head, and it says,
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  Speaker 2: why is it when we actively engage in nature do
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  Speaker 2: we seem to be healthier and happier? And that one
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  Speaker 2: simple question just kept ruminating inside of my brain. And
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  Speaker 2: the first first thing I looked up came up with
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  Speaker 2: green exercise. So, you know, University of Sussex, you've got
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  Speaker 2: Jewels Pretty, doctor Jewels Pretty and his team there. They
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  Speaker 2: sent me all of his white paper research. I'm pretty
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  Speaker 2: sure it was just him and his mum and me
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  Speaker 2: reading it. And I just became fascinated that as it's
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  Speaker 2: always the way with white papers.
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  Speaker 1: Mate.
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  Speaker 2: Now and yeah, mate, this was twelve years ago this started,
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  Speaker 2: and I've just been absolutely obsessed Paul since on what
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  Speaker 2: happens when we actively engage in nature? How do we
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  Speaker 2: measure well being? How do we get blokes to open up?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, mate, I think a part of it too was,
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  Speaker 2: you know, my wife would say that everything that I'm
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  Speaker 2: creating and designing is to heal my wounds. I had
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  Speaker 2: an interesting childhood. It was quite traumatic, and I think
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  Speaker 2: instead of spending thousands of dollars on psychiologists and all
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  Speaker 2: the rest of it made I'm probably just trying to
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  Speaker 2: work throughout myself and creating all these frameworks for me
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  Speaker 2: to try and heal myself. And you know, it's at
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  Speaker 2: the same time I'm doing it for other people. So
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  Speaker 2: deep down, mate, I think I'm just trying to heal
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  Speaker 2: myself and the people that you left this life far
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  Speaker 2: too early, and using science and nature and practical implementation
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  Speaker 2: has kind of led me on this twelve year journey, which,
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  Speaker 2: to be honest, I'd always thought I just see by
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  Speaker 2: creak and high pattible, it's my whole life.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, But and here you are working in the wellness space.
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  Speaker 3: Now there's stuff in your book energized that made me
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  Speaker 3: set up and take notice, right, statistics, I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: read them out.
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  Speaker 1: This is out of your book.
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  Speaker 3: The following quick statistics provided by Sphinx horrified me. Out
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  Speaker 3: of every one hundred Australians by the aids of sixty five,
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  Speaker 3: twenty seven will be dead. Sixty eight percent will be yeah,
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  Speaker 3: twenty seven will be dead. Out of one hundred, sixty
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  Speaker 3: eight percent will be fat, flat broke. Fifty percent will
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  Speaker 3: have suffered a relationship breakdown, fifty percent will have suffered
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  Speaker 3: poer mental health, eighty two percent will have a chronic illness.
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  Speaker 3: That is pretty scurry reading, isn't it for an advanced
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  Speaker 3: economy like Australia. And you know, I've written a book
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  Speaker 3: called Death by Comfort about how our modern environment.
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  Speaker 1: Is making us sick and diseased. And it's really.
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  Speaker 3: Interesting going through your book, like we are so aligned
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  Speaker 3: in terms of the interventions and the breadth of interventions.
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  Speaker 3: And you've got this quite a cool little concept about
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  Speaker 3: your personal battery. And I just did a personal battery
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  Speaker 3: assessment before we come on. And you use that metaphor
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  Speaker 3: throughout the book.
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  Speaker 1: So what when in your life did you realize that
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  Speaker 1: yours was dreaming or getting a little bit flat.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll just call it shites cool. Yeah, mate. The
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  Speaker 2: first time I think, look, let's just go let's go
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  Speaker 2: right back right when. I remember being a kid, and
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  Speaker 2: I was a really happy kid, you know, and I
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  Speaker 2: was one of those kids where my mom said I
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  Speaker 2: was always hugging people. I was always smile and always happy.
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  Speaker 2: And I think, you know, if you think about most boys,
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  Speaker 2: you know, when they're growing up. I've got a four
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  Speaker 2: year old boy, mate, They're nurturing, right, They just want hugs,
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  Speaker 2: they just want to play. They you know, they're so vulnerable.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like that. And then when my mum married,
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  Speaker 2: we had, you know, three boys on our side and
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  Speaker 2: four boys on Chief Cyber call him Chief because he
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  Speaker 2: never talked ex football players, you know, you know the type.
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  Speaker 2: And I remember from pretty much the day that we
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  Speaker 2: moved into that little three bedroom shack, you know, it
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  Speaker 2: was three bedroom, six boys. Mate. You know, we're low
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  Speaker 2: socio economic and all of a sudden, Mate, I put
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  Speaker 2: a wall up because I realized that being meek, mild
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  Speaker 2: and smiley and happy, mate would just get me a
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  Speaker 2: punch in the face from everybody else, right, because I
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  Speaker 2: was it was survival of the fitter. She put six
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  Speaker 2: boys in one household, and my name was Poker because
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  Speaker 2: I'm little. I'm six foot and I'm tiny, mate like
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  Speaker 2: my little brother six foot and so yeah, yeah, we're
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  Speaker 2: a big family of boys. And I remember going to
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  Speaker 2: my mum when I was twelve years old and I said, Mom,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I was crying and I said, look, Mom,
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  Speaker 2: I don't I don't know how to stop the boys
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  Speaker 2: from picking on me. And she said, look, Poko, all
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  Speaker 2: you got to do is just stop crying, right, stop showing,
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  Speaker 2: stop showing your emotions, shop showing that you're vulnerable, and
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  Speaker 2: they'll leave you alone, they'll stop picking on you. And
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  Speaker 2: at the time, it was the most perfect advice you
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  Speaker 2: could have given me, because I did. I stopped crying.
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  Speaker 2: I you know, learned how to box. I toughened up.
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  Speaker 2: I was sarcastic as hell. I was cheeky, little shit,
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  Speaker 2: you know I was. I was. I became one of
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  Speaker 2: the boys. And you know, pretty much from the age
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  Speaker 2: of twelve, I remember, until the age of twenty six month,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even cry, not once. So I just bottled
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  Speaker 2: it up. All my anger went out in the boxing
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  Speaker 2: ring and basically it wasn't until you know, I was
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  Speaker 2: thirty two, mate, that I found that I actually had
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  Speaker 2: a heart when you know, I met a very special girl.
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  Speaker 2: I called it an earth angel back then, mate, because
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  Speaker 2: somehow she found a heart that was very deep and concrete.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, so the battery check for me, and
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  Speaker 2: how it came about was because every time I'd ask
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  Speaker 2: a made of mine or anybody, how you doing, they'd
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  Speaker 2: always be like made good, yep, good, life's great good.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, fuck this, mate, because I've already
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  Speaker 2: lost three blokes suicide and they all said they were fine,
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  Speaker 2: and how the hell do you get them to open up?
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  Speaker 2: So when Mao took his life, we went back to
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  Speaker 2: the drawing board. We're already doing you know, these seven
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  Speaker 2: tools of Green exercise. But what we'd realized, Paul, is
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  Speaker 2: that Mate, no one really knew what the hell well
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  Speaker 2: being was, especially as blokes. I actually thought well being
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  Speaker 2: was going to a day spar and getting nails done.
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  Speaker 2: That's literally what I thought well being was, mate, in
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  Speaker 2: my before before I got into this twelve years ago,
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  Speaker 2: like no one talked about well being in you know,
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  Speaker 2: in my neighborhood. And so anyway, when we finally realize that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, well being is quite simple. Like basically, the
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  Speaker 2: best definition I heard of what well being was from
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  Speaker 2: a sixteen year old Grommy that I'm working with surfing
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  Speaker 2: Australia at the moment, and she goes, oh, yeah, Timmy,
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  Speaker 2: isn't that just like being well and stuff? And I
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  Speaker 2: was like, mate, this six year old girl nailed it,
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  Speaker 2: Like I've been doing this all over the world for
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  Speaker 2: so many year years and being well was probably the
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  Speaker 2: best definition of well being right. And my thing was,
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  Speaker 2: how the hell do we make it simple? Right? How
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  Speaker 2: do we even talk about it? So when we looked
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  Speaker 2: at the battery, we realize that you've got purpose, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you actually need to know why you want to look
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  Speaker 2: after yourself and be the best version of you. You've
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  Speaker 2: got sleep, which is self explanatory looking at physical health, nutrition,
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  Speaker 2: your mindset. Fun. We put fun in there, mate, because
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  Speaker 2: all the research around fun and mental health is huge.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll been measuring astray as well being now for
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  Speaker 2: seven years and fun has been the lowest consistently over
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  Speaker 2: seven years. And then obviously make friendships and relationships which
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you know, you know, we don't talk
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  Speaker 2: about enough and the importance of warmth of relationships. And
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  Speaker 2: so when I realized that, you know, these eight areas
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  Speaker 2: just make up you know, he your health and happiness
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  Speaker 2: and long livity. I realize that you know, you can
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  Speaker 2: just put these together in a simple app measure it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, one to you know, one to ten, one
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  Speaker 2: being low, ten being great, and within sixty seconds, mate
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  Speaker 2: out pops a percentage and the way you have it,
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  Speaker 2: and then you just share that with your mates and
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  Speaker 2: they can keep an eye on you. You don't have
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  Speaker 2: to you know, you don't have to be vulnerable. And
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  Speaker 2: what I love about it is that you know it'll
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  Speaker 2: tell you what you're low on. So I did mine
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  Speaker 2: the other day. I've got two kids under for mates,
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  Speaker 2: so you know, struggle with sleep every now and again
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  Speaker 2: and catching up with the mates. And I did the
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  Speaker 2: battery and it said I was lowing fun, friendships and
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  Speaker 2: physical health. And within five minutes and man, one of
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  Speaker 2: my mates said, right, Timmy Chukes, tomorrow morning, Friday, seven o'clock,
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  Speaker 2: I'll bring the boys, let's get that battery recharged. And
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, mate, I wish I had this
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  Speaker 2: app around when you know, when those other lads took
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  Speaker 2: their life because it's exactly the thing that I needed.
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  Speaker 2: So it's it's just one of those simple concepts where
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  Speaker 2: when you talk about how's your battery, you can measure
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  Speaker 2: it right, and I think, you know, we start to
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  Speaker 2: manage what we measure.
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  Speaker 1: That is really cool.
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  Speaker 3: I am always a big fan of saying what gets
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  Speaker 3: measured gets managed right.
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  Speaker 1: That's really key.
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  Speaker 3: So if you're not aware of it, you're just a
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  Speaker 3: lot less likely to manage it. So I love that
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  Speaker 3: idea of the battery. And actually, because I've created a
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  Speaker 3: whole heap of surveys before around well being, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: had one that was a fucking hundred questions long, and
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  Speaker 3: then we cut it down to fifty questions because just
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  Speaker 3: like you, I realized there's different components to it, right,
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  Speaker 3: and our components were ever so slightly different.
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  Speaker 1: But what I like about yours is it's just how
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  Speaker 1: do you think you're going?
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  Speaker 3: Because actually, when you look at the research, right, the
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  Speaker 3: best indicator of how good your sleep I was last
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  Speaker 3: night is not your fucking apple watching, it's high rested,
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  Speaker 3: you actually think, And yeah, and people just know how
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  Speaker 3: their physical health is, you know, that is the best
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  Speaker 3: indicator of someone's physical health is not the doctor's like
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  Speaker 3: asking them how do they feel that their health is?
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  Speaker 3: Because people know, right, But I love that idea of
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  Speaker 3: having the battery and getting it up front and center
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  Speaker 3: and then not being able to share with others is
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  Speaker 3: really quite cope now when we did by interventions. So
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  Speaker 3: you say in the book that we don't need to
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  Speaker 3: reinvelp the will, We just need to realign with what
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  Speaker 3: exists within us.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So talk us through that philosophy. What do you
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  Speaker 1: actually mean by that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I reckonte life has gotten so bloody busy these days,
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  Speaker 2: we've actually forgotten what matters now. You know, most of
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  Speaker 2: the people I work with the leadership teams, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: I deal with a lot of CEOs, and I think
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  Speaker 2: what happens, mate, is, you know, when we start out
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  Speaker 2: in the workforce, we have all these good intentions of
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  Speaker 2: following our dreams and our passions and our true north.
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  Speaker 2: And what we end up doing, mate, is we end
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  Speaker 2: up sort of following the money, right, not all of us.
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  Speaker 2: But the problem is is that we and look, this
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  Speaker 2: is a perfect example, and I'm going to give you
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  Speaker 2: a story around this because I think it's really relevant.
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  Speaker 2: When the Global Financial Crisis hit the GFC in two
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  Speaker 2: thousand and eight. At that time, Mate, we had a
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  Speaker 2: scuba diving cl I've called the WOOFS Club and we
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  Speaker 2: called it the Warm Underwater Scuba Specialists. Now it was
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  Speaker 2: the exact opposite was it was basically thirty hardcore divers
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  Speaker 2: made that I'd take all over the world, you know,
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  Speaker 2: doing wreck dives and cave dives and basically scaring the
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  Speaker 2: shit out of them but keeping them safe. And one
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  Speaker 2: of my favorite blokes, Gas, I called him my dive dad,
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  Speaker 2: and he was a restaurant He was, you know, a
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  Speaker 2: successful guy. Most of them were, Mate, They're all successful people,
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  Speaker 2: and when the GFC hit, Mate, a lot of them
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  Speaker 2: lost not only their finances but also their families, right
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  Speaker 2: because it put so much effort into building their fortunes
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  Speaker 2: that they're completely forgot about what matters most of their families.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, Gas sort of sailed through it quite smoothly.
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  Speaker 2: And I remember afterwards, I, you know, I had a
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  Speaker 2: coffee with him. I said, Gas, how come, how come
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  Speaker 2: you did so much better than the rest of these boys, Mate, Like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you've still got your family intact, You've still
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  Speaker 2: got your fortune. What's going on here? Mate? Tell me
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  Speaker 2: what I'm missing, he said, Timmy, one of the best
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: things I ever got told was to always live well
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: within your me And what is what he meant by
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: that was when you live well within your means, you're
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: always buying yourself time, right, because you're having the time
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: to do the things that you actually really want. So
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight, Mate, I've realized since then,
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: I've always bought things that I can easily afford, a
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: car that I can easily afford, a house that I
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: can easily afford. Because what it allows me to do, Mate,
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: is have a financial buffer that you know, whatever happens
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: with the bloody glot, you know, if COVID hits or
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: whatever else, I know that financially, Mate, I'm going to
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: be okay, and it allows me to live without freaking
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: out about the mortgage and everything else. Now, why does
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: that matter and why are we not doing it at
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: the moment. The reason why it matters is because when
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: you live well within your means, you're not working for
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: the dollar. You're working for yourself and you're doing the
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: things that you love. Now, Mate, we know from all
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: the statistics whether we're spending forty three hours of our
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: downtime on screen being spectators, now, which is scaring the
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: shit out. I mean forty three hours outside of work
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: being spectators. This is living for.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Someone forty three hours for forty three hours.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: A week outside of work.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: That's that's six hours a day, right, yeah, and I
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: love the what you call spector I talk about.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: We are becoming passive participants.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: Look, that's the line.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: We are passive, passive, passive observer, sorry, rather than active participants.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: And it's like, as you will well know. And I
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: have not read a sing I've read a ship heap
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: of philosophy in my time. Not one fucking philosopher have
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: ever said that the purpose in life is to be
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: entertained by watching that fucking YouTube.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: I love it. Mate. We are violently agreeable. So and
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: this is the thing, mate. We literally are now spending
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: all of our time cooped up in four walls spectating
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: on screens. And yes, this is what bothers me. Mate.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: We we are god knows how many generations into the humankind. Right.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: We have put people on the moon, we have created
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: a tomic energy. I mean, we have done some of
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: the most marvelous things using our brains and our brawn
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: and these fingers, and yet, for some bloody reason, after
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: thousands or millions of years, whatever you want to believe in,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: we are literally stuck indoors on a fricking screen watching
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: other people's lives. And I'm thinking, what the fuck has
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: happened to human race when we can't even go and
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: live our own lives. Imagine the books, mate, that you're
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: going to hand down to your grandkids. Let's see here.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, grandpops. Just all he did was just spectate
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: other people's lives. I'm thinking, what a boring existence are
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: we turning into. It's doing my head in.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: And you check any animal outside of their natural environment
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: and what happens to them?
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: They get sick?
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Mate, Free Willy. We just look at free Willie the
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: dorsal fit. The first one I thought about was free Willy.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: We're going to live, Paul.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: It's just it's crazy. Let's talk about then, some of
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: the interventions. Now.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: The first one that I'm going to pick here is
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: a little bit. So you talk about the greenex seven
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: tools of green exercise and tools, movement, environment, earthing, time, connection,
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: breast reflection.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, most people get.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: Movement right, and you know you talk nutrition, they go, yea,
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: yea yeah, yea yeah, yeah. Let's talk about some slightly
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: left field ones earthing and the reason we had a
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: very quick chat before we get on because in my
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: new book, I just wrote a chapter and a big
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: chunk of it was on earthing and digging into the research.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Like I used to think earthing was just harsh.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Harsh, absolutely fluff, but then.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: When you dig into the research, there's a bocket load
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: of science and a plausible mechanism. So talk to us
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: about earthing and what you do in workshops and all
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: sorts of things with people.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: So I think, look, there's two ways that I look
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: at earthing. One is obviously the science behind it. You know,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: one of the best things that we can do for inflammation.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Inflammation sits at the core of all cronic disease and illness.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: And from the latest research, I think we need around
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: twenty minutes a day, you know, shoes off, sand grass,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: whatever it is. Now, that's the science. We know that
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: it harmonizes our body and all the things like that. Mate,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: you probably know a lot more of being your background
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: than I do. But the reason why I love earthing
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: is because, like I was saying before, mate, we are
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: so caught up in our brains and our heads right
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: that I think we've forgotten that life has actually lived
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: in our heart space, and life has lived when we
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: actually feel and the moments that when I run these workshops,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: and mate, look we run workshops, you know, we get
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: them out of the boardrooms and we get them back
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: onto the beach because we know the productivity and creativity
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: and all that, like you and I know this. But
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: what I love about it is, Mate, when you get
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: someone to take their shoes off and you get them
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: to put it on the beach, each of the water
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: or the Grassmate, all of a sudden they get out
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: of their heads, right, They get out of that concetant
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: thinking that you know, especially leaders are always in, and
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: they start to feel again, and they start to realize
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: that uh huh, right, this is this is where I
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: should be living more. And so it's almost like getting
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: your foot off the excelerator, you see, Mate, we're always
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: pumping the gas. So the idea is to take the
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: shoes off, put them in nature, take the foot off
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: the accelerator, and just let them be, Just stop bloody
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: doing and just let them be and mate. A great
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: example of this is I was doing a gig for Corts.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I took them off to an island in Hong Kong
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: for three days. There was thirty of their gms that
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: you know, sort of joined me and I got them
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: to I think it was day two. I got them
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: to all take their shoes off, and there was a
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: lady Mate it was thirty years since she'd actually had
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: her bare feet on the ground. Thirty years. Yeah, mate,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: blew my mind, blew my mind. And I was thinking,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: and Mate, she was, I swear she tears it up right,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: and she's just like, wow, this is this is what
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: it feels like to feel. And I'm always trying to
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: get people to feel like you know, everyone asks you
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: to go do a keynote in a bloody you know,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: stadium or boardrooms and come here, Timmy and come to
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: our office. I'm like, no, guys, if you really want
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: to create change, you know, if you really want to
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: think different, if you really want to change things up,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: you come to me. Come into nature. Let's go to
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: a mindfulness and the mangroves on a powder board or
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: sit out the back on a surfboard or or think different,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: feel different, do something different because that's going to get
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: you different results. And I just love I love the
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: aha moment when people go fuck. I actually think I've
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: been missing out on life right because I've been so
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: caught up in my head thinking what I thought what
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: life was about, which was, you know, the recognition of
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: being amazing at work and leading a team. I think
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: we've sort of forgotten that actually love is the key
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: aspect of what life is about. And you know, the
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: best love comes from family and friends.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: And the thing I wanted to mention on that is
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: that a lot of people, I think, confuse relaxation with recovery,
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: all right, And I will say to people like sitting
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: with your feet up and ale with a bottle of
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: wine watching Netflix after a hard days yaka, it's not recovery,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: it's relaxation. Recovery is stuff that dampens down your sympathetic
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: nervous system and activates your parasympathetic nervous system. The rest,
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: digests recover and that earthing, spending times with friends, spending
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: time and nature has all been shown to massively activate
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: our parasympathetic nervous system because that's the environment we were
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: supposed to be in right, and when you dig into
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: it and you look at light and sunlight, and actually,
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: now the research is showing that light from the sun
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: actually has quantum effects on ourselves, which just completely fucking
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: spun me out when I got in into the whole
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: quantum biology of light.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Like, as you said, we've been around homosappiens.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Two hundred thousand years, but you know, two million years
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: from our ancestors, all in the natural environment, and now
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: we have changed our environment to such an extent that
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: we are no longer matched to it.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: So with somebody who's who is you know, maybe listening
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: to this and.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Going, Okay, the hell, I need to do something here,
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: because there's not much fun in my life. I'm just
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: busy all the time. I'm stressed. I'm running the kids
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: around in any minute i've got, and then when I
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: come back, all I've got is the energy to do
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: is just plunk in front of the TV and watch
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: a little bit of mindless TV, and that just helps
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: me to unwind. What would you say to these people, yeah,
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: and what are some of the concrete steps that they
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: could make to start to shift things and increase their
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: battery levels?
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: The first thing I'd say, mate, is work out why
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: they're actually living life in the first place. What are
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: they're actually doing it all for? And you know, in
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: every workshop I do, when we dig into purpose, it
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: sounds a little bit fluffy, mate, but I call it
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: the rock and anchor. And most of it's done outdoors,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: you know, whether it's on a beach and a forest
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: or somewhere like that. And what we do, mate, is
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: we get people to get out of their heads get
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: back into their heart through a really beautiful mindfulness breathing session. Right,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: we do a gratitude practice, and that gratitude practice is
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: purely thinking about a beautiful memory, right that they've had,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: whether it was last week, last year, a decade ago,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: and the memory is something that lights them up right,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: that makes their hearts sing, that brings them absolute joy
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: in their life. And what we do, mate, is from
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: that memory, right from reliving that. I asked them why
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: you do to be the best version of yourself? Like,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: what are you actually doing this all for? And most
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: of the time is because you either want to be
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: a really good role model right to your kids or
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: to someone else you like, you want to be the
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: best version of you because you want to live life
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: to the best. Everyone has different answers for me right now,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: because I'm a dad, I just want to be the
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: best role model I can. Now, you see, the thing
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: is right, if I ask a CEO, you know how
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: much you're living that purpose. So let's just say they
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: want to be the best role model for their family,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: they want to spend time with their kids. And then
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: I say how much are you living that? And they're
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: working eighty hours a week, all right? And this is
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: where it comes back to getting caught up with the
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: things that you think life is about, but it's not
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: actually what you want your life to be about. But
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: there's so much noise going on in this world and expectations. Actually,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Paul the number one and you would know this, the
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: number one regretted the dying is I wish I lived
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: a life true to myself and not the one others
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: expected on me. And in those moments when I run
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: a purpose workshop, start remembering what their own expectations on
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: their own lives is and what they truly want. And
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: so when people say that, hey, Timmy, I don't have
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: time to look after myself, I'm like, first of all,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: what the fuck are you even living for if you
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: can't even look after your own well being, Like, what's
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: it all for? Mate? If you can't look after yourself.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Number two, If you can't look after yourself, who's going
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: to look after you when you're sick, tired and can't
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: get out of bed from chronic fatigue? Because that happens
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: a lot, right, And I think that being leaders. And look,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: most of my clients are leaders, and we don't like
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: to be helped. We're leaders for a reason because we
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: don't like to be told what to do. And we
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: feel like we're you know, we're self sufficient, we're reliable,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: we're resilient. Where all of these things right, and then
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: one day with they're out of the blue. You know
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: you're getting tired, you know you sort of you've lost
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: your zest for life, all of a sudden, Mate, you
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: just can't get out of bed one day, It doesn't
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: matter what you try and do, Mate, you can't get
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: out of bed. Right, you're not going into work, you
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: can't help your family, and all of a sudden, Mate,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: for the next month or three months or sometimes six months,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: everyone's helping you, Mate, supporting you. And Mate, does that?
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: How does that make you feel. And so what I'm
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: trying to get people to understand is if we actually
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: just reconnect and recharge our batteries each and every day, right,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: we don't go down that path, we actually start thriving sustainably.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: And so what I would say for everyone that is
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: time poor, because mate, I get it. I've got three companies,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I've got two kids under four. I'm fucking really busy too.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: But the thing is I prioritize my health and well
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: being above everything else. So I've created a life that
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: supports me and not one that I'm constantly having to
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: support that's constantly draining my batteries. So every single day, mate,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: I combine those seven tools together, a movement, environment, earthing, time, connection, reflection,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: and breath. I call it my rhythm and I basically
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: do that. And for me, it's just getting my kids out,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: my labor door, my chocolate labyrid orku. You go, we
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: go for a walk around the block for thirty minutes,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: we come back, we connect. There's no technology involved, you know. Lunchtime,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I'll just sit outside with the team, shoes off on
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: the grass, getting that vitamin D, which is the way
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: seventy percent vitamin d deficient in this country. And Mate,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, when my head hits
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: the pillow, I know I've done all the things I
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: need to do to recharge my batteries. And it's a
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: thirty minute process, Mate, it's plus a little bit for lunch. Now. Mate,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: I've been thriving sustainably with that rhythm for ten years
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: now and it works. And the reason why it works
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: is because you're fueled by your passion and your purpose.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: You're not fueled by money or anything else. You feel
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: by the thing that really lights you up inside. And Mate,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: you can go hard when you're lit up with the
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: things inside. And like you said, mate, recovery is not
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: sitting in front of Netflix. It's sitting in a bloody
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: hammock in between trees and listening to some water. That's
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: what recovery is here.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. It reminded me as you were talking about though.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: There's a famous Zen Cohen and that says that you
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: should sit and meditate for twenty minutes a day unless
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: you are too.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Busy, and and you should do it for a love
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: that one.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: And but for this to be because I think a
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: lot about this, right and I'm very aligned with you
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: in my workshops that I do a lot of stuff
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: on purpose, and I talk about a tombstone statement like
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: what would you like to be written on your tombstone
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: about the impact that you had in your little corner
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: of the universe.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Right, whether that's kids, family, whatever. Right.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: But for some people to get realigned, it requires some
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: really tough decisions, right, because we have to talk about
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: money in this I think we have to talk about money.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: And you mentioned it earlier on about living well within
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: your means. I mean, the research shows that that money
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: can contribute to happiness to a certain point until you're
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: out of the poverty line, and then there's the law
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: of diminishing returns.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: But then Sanyo Lubernitski has done most of the reach.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: She's a happiness expert, and her research shows that money
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: brings you happiness when it's money in the bank, when
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: it's savings.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: It's not about your pay packet.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: It's about having money in the bank, which, to your point,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: is about living within your means.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: And from that, some people need to make some really.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Tough decisions about Okay, Hell, I'm doing a job that's
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: earning me good amount of money, and I'm able, but
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: I need that because I've got an expensive house and
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: cars and holidays and all of that. And sometimes they
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: just have to go what needs to give here? Because
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: a lot of people say I can't do anything about it. Well,
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: fucking yes, you can do something about it. We have
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: the biggest houses in the world in Australia, right, and
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: it doesn't need to be that way. I know people
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: who have completely changed their jobs and downsized their house
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: and are so much happier.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: And it's not for a lot of people. It's not
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: an easy thing. But I think that purpose thing is
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: so so critical because if.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: You don't think about, hey, why am I here? Why
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: am I existing? What is the purpose in all of this?
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: If you don't really really think about that and get
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: clear on that, then those decisions are going to be
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: too hard to me.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Can you just going to procrastinate? Right?
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah? And I think, mate, what you're saying is what
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: is it that needs to give? And this is the
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: answer that now on especially blokes don't want to hear.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: It's your ego, you know, That's that's what needs do
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: because mate, we all we all want to compare, right,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: And look, I think I think whoever is in that
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: universe that you know. Back in two thousand and eight,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Gary Martin said to me, mate, live well within your means,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: because look, we you know, we've got I remember buying
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: my little you know, my little shack. B God, it
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: was twelve years ago. Now is a two bedroom shack,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: and you know we've had to renovate it now because
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: we've got two kids. And I went to the bank
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: and you know, I said, right, how much can I
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: borrow you guys, I'm I'm going to rip down and rebuild.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: And I said, Timmy, we'll give you this much. And
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: I said, right, I'll take half. Because I knew that
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: if I went to the full extent, mate, I knew
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: that I would have to work my ass off to
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: pay that mortgage off. And so I decided to build
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: a house that was half the size of what I
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: could have afforded. But what that allows me to do
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: is that and I will put it this way, mate,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: because I think this is a really good way of
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: doing it. Right now, I can work forty hours a week, right,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: which allows me, you know, after all the things that
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: you do in your life, which is cleaning the house
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: and maintenance work and your chores and responsibilities that allows
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: me twenty hours of free time a week. Now, with
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: those twenty hours of free time a week, I do
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: things that reconnect me to myself, others, and nature, right,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: and that's typically hanging out with friends and family doing
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: the things that I love. Now, if I went and
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: got a bigger mortgage, it probably would have taken up
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: another ten hours of my week. So now I'm up
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: to fifty hours, which now only leaves me ten hours
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: spare to reconnect to myself and others through nature, right,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: the things that really light me up. Now, let's just say,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: I go, oh, I'm not too happy with my prato
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: out the front. Maybe I need a one hundred and
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars land cruiser. So I go and do that,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: and then you know what, maybe I'm going to go
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: on a really amazing snow trip this year. All of
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: a sudden, Mate, I'm working sixty hours a week, right,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: And what happens is that twenty hours that I had
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: is now zero hours. And so I've gone from living
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: well within my means and having twenty hours to do
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: the things that I love and keep the connections that
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: matter most to me, which is my family, because the
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: last thing I want to do is get a divorce, right.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: And I still live in a beautiful house, I still
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: drive a nice comfortable car, and I don't stress out
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: about the money because I know, mate, it's there if
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: I need it, And I'm doing all the things that
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: light me up. And I think, mate, this I got
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: to tell you the story made because that happened really recently, Paul,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: and this is what drove the nail home for me.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: I was pad of boarding with a couple. There were
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: probably late fifties. He was a you know, a businessman,
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: a CEO worth of absolute fortune, and his wife and anyway,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: he gone off and he was looking at some birds
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: and well paddling on Kingsliff Creek. And the wife turns
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: to me and she goes, hey, Timmy. She goes, mate,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if he knows this,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: but you know, we're going to get a divorce soon.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, mate, okay, look, we're
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: going to talk about it. She goes, but I don't
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: know if he knows this, but he's also going to
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: lose fifty million dollars when it happens. And I was like, fuck,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: I was like, and I was like, just tell me,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: what's the reason she goes. Look, I've been trying to
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: get my husband to work ten hours less, you know,
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: a week for the last ten years. We have family,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: you know, the boys are almost left home by now,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: and for the last ten years, he he won't just
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: work sixty as a week. He just wants to keep
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: working seventy. He wants to build a fortune. And I
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: know why he's doing it's because he wants to provide
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: for us. But at the same time, Timmy, he's literally
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: going to lose fifty million dollars and his family and
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: I just don't I don't know if he really registers that.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: And then the first thing that flicked in my mind
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: was thinking, well, maybe he does and he doesn't care.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: But also, Mate, this is the thing. I think we
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: spend so much time building our fortunes right that we
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: forget that what we're not building up is the relationships
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: that are closest to us. And Mate, if if we
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: lose that connection with our wife, our partner, whoever it is,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: and they take off, Mate, Like, that's seventy percent of
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: your fortune gone down the drain.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: And I think this is there's a really important two
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: points here. I interviewed Richard Laird. Professor Richard Laird on
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: the podcast who is the greatest well being researcher on
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: the feace of the planet right and has done You
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: should get him on Actually he would be in is
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: either in his seventies or is he eighties?
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Happy to jump on.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: Podcasts like He produces the reports for the United Nations
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: and the World Happiness Index stuff like that, So he,
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: more than anybody, has researched happy well what he called
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: subjective well being, because happiness is a friggin emotion and
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: it's a fleeting emotion, so subjective wellbeing. And his thing
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: was the biggest thing in subjective wellbeing is the quality
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: of your relationships, full stop. Not the amount of money
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: that you have, not the job you have, none of
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: those sorts of things. It is the quality of your relationships.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: And loneliness.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: If you're lonely, it's and you probably know this, it's
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: as bad for your health as smoking twenty cigarettes a week.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: But and particularly I think we need to highlight this
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: to the blokes because when divorces happen, what happens, blokes
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: tend to fer worse than females because a lot of them,
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: not everybody, and this this dynamic is notice changing slightly,
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: but a lot of them are so focused on growing
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: their career that most of the friendships are driven by
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: the wife right through taker and through mothers groups, and
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: then you know, the fathers then sort of hang out
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: whenever they come together. And then when there's a divorce,
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: the woman tends to maintain the friendships. And it's the
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: blokes who end up because often people choose and they
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: choose the other side, and blokes find that they end
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: up being lonely, and a lot of them commit suicide.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: And particularly you know, my age is a very sensitive
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: age for this, because a shit heap of people get
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: divorced in their fifties right when the kids leave home.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Then they're standing looking at each other going fucking hell,
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: I don't think I actually like you.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: They end up a divorce, but a lot of blokes
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: are just like then they have.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: The existential crisis and they're lonely at the same time,
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: and their egos damage.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: And it's a just as of trifector, isn't it.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah? And this, Mate, it was interesting because I did
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: a keynote last week and Mate, look, most of my
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: keynotes with leaders. I did one for three hundred maintenance workers.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: You know, these are the blokes that basically, you know,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: mow the lawns for schools. And it was interesting, right
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: because these are the blokes that you know who these
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: are my dad's right, this is how I grew up.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: And I was talking about well being and obviously, mate,
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: we don't use well being with those kind of blokes.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: We just talk about stuff and you know, so they
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: so they listened, but made after the talk, I had
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: a lineup of these blokes and which I was not expecting.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: I was sort of expecting them to just, you know,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: go off to morning tea and that'll do it. And
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: there was a lineup of these blokes and I'll tell you, mate,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: the problems that they had. I had one bloke who
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: had sixteen suicides around him in his peer group over
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: the last ten years. Sixteen suicides. Yep, one bloke And
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: he said, to be honest, Timmy, I think I'm net shit.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: I think I'm and that's what we said. I think
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: I'm next.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: My.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: I had another guy mate who just lost his super
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: three hundred thousand dollars in super everything he owned another
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: bloke who just had a divorce the love of his life.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Another bloke who was married to you know, a woman
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: who was married to a phone and just felt completely
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: lonely twenty four to seven around her. And mate, these
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: are all guys between the age of probably you know,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: fifty and sixty five years old. And it made it
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: was it's sad in my heart. Like their batteries, overall
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: batteries were just dismal. And I realized, we've we've got
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: this problem, mate, Like there's a reason why you know,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: women live longer than men because they talk about the problems,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: right like that's their that's the way that they destress
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: and blokes we hold it in. And I think, you know, look,
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: my dad's generations, they're probably you know, they're hitting their
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: seventies now. They didn't open up, mate, They didn't talk
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: about all this kind of stuff. And I think this
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: generation we're getting better. You know, Like I'll say I
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: love you to my son, I'll give him a big heart.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: And I never heard those words coming out of my
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: you know, my dad's I never heard the word I'm
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: proud of you. These are the things that we need
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: to open up and talk about. And I think what
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: we have to do is realize that, yeah, money's important,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: and yes we want to be providers. And that's why
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: we do it, right, Paul, Like, we do this because
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: we want to be really good providers right where we
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: give them money and we transfer that money into the
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: things that we think our family needs. But then we
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: forget about the thing that they really actually want.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: And that is us.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: It is our time.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: It's time with you time.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: And so we spend fifty sixty hours a week working, mate,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: because we're trying to support our families. We're trying to
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: be the best husband and father we possibly can, unknowingly
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: realizing that we're giving them or we're sacrificing the thing
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: that they actually want from us, which is just being
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: present with our time. And I think going back to
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: your point about us being spectators, you know, us blokes,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: we're watching cricket on the inside, you know, on this screen,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: while our young fellows are out the back throwing a
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: ball against the wall all by themselves, waiting for dad
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: to come out and play with him. And I think
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: that that's what we forgot, mate. We're watching the cricket
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: on TV. Well, our boys are out the back waiting
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: for us to play with them.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: And I think this is becoming more of a family
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: problem these days, with more female participation in the work
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: place and more females and leadership roles, right, because I
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: know a lot of really successful, smart as smart as
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: females who are in on that treadmill, working sixty hours
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: a week, and some of them their husband is doing
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: the same thing, And I think, what the fuck is
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: happening with the kids?
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because to.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: Your point, you cannot outsource the upbringing of your children, right.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: And I actually had Steve Biddolf on the podcast. Have
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: you interviewed him?
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: I have an interview with.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: H He's brilliant.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: He wrote the book Raising Boys, which is a global
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: best seller two million plus copies.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: And Steve Biddolf actually head on and I'll never forget it.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: He said, if you are working sixty hours a week,
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: you cannot be a good parent.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: I was like, fuck.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: And this is from the most eminent psychologist when it
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: comes to reaching children. And you know, that's where it
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: comes to these hard choices for a lot of people, Like,
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: we're not saying that this shit is easy, and particularly
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: if you're stuck in that where I've got the big house,
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: I've got the big mortgage, I've got the school fees
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: or whatever it might be. Jesus, you gotta make some
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: hard choices, like really hard choices. But it's got to
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: start with purpose, doesn't it.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to recay matter. And as you were talking,
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking about a lot of my clients and I'm thinking, God,
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: how would they ever, how would they ever make that
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: choice to sell, you know, that beautiful house on Millionaires
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Road and down down grade that beautiful Mercedes into a Toyota.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: And I just think, are they going to do it?
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: You know? And sometimes I feel like that almost rather
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: lose everything than lose that ego, right, And that's the
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: hard thing. I think. What I think. Look, we're trying
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: to get into schools at the moment, because this is where.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: It starts, you know, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: I just think, No, that's fine, Matt. Look I've got
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: three different dads, mate, Like I said, interesting childhood, and
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: it's really hard to teach an old dog new tricks.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: There's a few that will learn, mate, But to be honest,
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: the generation that's above me, it's it's tough, mate. And
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: I think this generation coming through. Now, sure we can
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: make some change, but the real change is going to
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: come through our schooling system. If we can, if we
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: can teach our kids on how to actually live well
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: within their means and what real what? Okay, I'll tell
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: you the three things that matter more than anything else
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: for me, Paul, And this is everything that we do.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: We base everything on. This is value, meaning, belonging. Right,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: How do we create value, meaning and belonging within our lives?
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: And the reason why this is so important is because
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: it creates self worth, and self worth creates self love
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: and it's actually self that we need to want to
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: look after ourselves because Mate, as you know, we can
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: give everyone the tools and the tips and the tricks
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: to look after themselves, but if they don't have the
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: self worth, mate, and the self love to do that,
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: they're not going to do it. And Mate, by the
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: time that look, I was an abnomaly, mate, because the
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: way that I grew up, it was only by chance
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: that I met the right people in my right the
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: right people in my life at the right time. Was
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: the only reason why I moved in a positive direction
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: and not a negative right because I could be somewhere
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: completely mat, I might even be in the ground like
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: who bloody knows. But if we can teach students, mate,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: how to create value meeting and belonging for themselves and others,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: and what they actually value is not external but internal, right,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: then we actually have a chance. Now we've literally just
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: created a platform based on that battery check where it's
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: going to start sending well being report cards out to
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: parents every single week. So as a parent, Mate, I'll
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: actually get a wellbeing report card and how my kid's going.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: It takes them sixty seconds once a week and it
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: will literally tell me how my son's going or how
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: my daughter's going. So what's going to happen? And this
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: is what I love, mate, because you know, as parents,
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: we're so busy being busy that by the end of
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: the week we're exhausted. We get to the weekend and
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: we just we're busy doing sports, We're doing busy doing this,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: busy doing that. But what we forget to ask is
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: you know, asking our kids, well, how are you guys going?
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: What do you actually need? Now? Kids will just go
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: I'm fine, just like my mate did. But when you
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: get a battery report, it says, oh wow, little Johnny's
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: really struggling with friendships. Last week friendships was ten and
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: now it's two. Now I know what conversation I need
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: to bring up. Or you know, his fund's really low.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'm going to take him fishing. So what it's
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: doing is it's allowing parents to have a quick snapshot
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: on how what their kids actually need, so over that
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: weekend when they actually have some time, they're doing the
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: things that those kids actually need to recharge their batteries, right,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: and then by the time they hit Monday again, hopefully
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: the kids recharged. You know, the parent feels good about
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: parenting and not just sticking them in front of an
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: iPad and they go, shit, you know what, I actually
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: improve the health and happiness of my child this week.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: How fucking good does that feel? Right? They feel valued,
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: The kid feels valued. I feel seen, I feel heard,
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: which is the greatest you know words in English dictionary.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: I see you and I hear you. And maybe we
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: can start to reverse this trend of loneliness and depression
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: and suicide and everything else that we're going through in
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: this supposedly lucky country mate that we're living in.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: To me, what what would you say?
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: So think of your seven tools movement, environment, earthing, time, connection, breath,
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: and reflection, And is.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: There one or two of those that you struggle with
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: more than the others.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, mate, I think for me it's easy to combine,
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: you know, movement and out and the outdoors. Right you
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: just you know that's an easy one. You go for
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: a walk around your block, you go for a walk
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: in a park, in a beach. That's easy. Taking your
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: shoes off, mate.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: You know this is a two to it, barfoot, You've
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: got three, yep.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: Exactly, you've got it. When we start talking about time,
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: you know, it's how much time do you actually need
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: to do these things? Now? We know from all the research, mate,
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: to get vitamin D, your shadows needs to be shorter
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: than you. We need about fifteen minutes a day because
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: we've got light skin. If you've got darker skin, you
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: need longer amount of times. You know, we know that
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: you need thirty minutes of walking a day. You know,
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: elevated heart rate. These are all the things we know.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: So when we talk about time, we look at the
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: science and how much of these things we actually need
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: to do to get the right amount. But we also
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: talk about putting time in You know, you can't just
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: say I'm going to go for a walk tomorrow. What
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: you need to do is say, at six forty five am,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: I'm going to take my family and we're going to
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: go a walk for around the block twice, which is
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: going to take us thirty minutes. Right, we need to
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: create this atomic habits thing, make it habitual. So you've
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: got movement, you've got environment, you've got earthing. Now you've
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: got time. Now connection, Ditch the phone and bring someone along. Mate.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's just yourself. Maybe you actually need some downtime
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: just for you. Maybe you're so freaking busy with everything
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: else you actually need your own time. Or maybe you
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: need connection with your kids. Maybe it's a connection with
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: you know, your wife or your husband. Maybe it's just
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: with the dog. But connection is, as you know, mate,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: is the number one predictor in life and happiness. Then
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: when we start talking about you know, breath, it's actually
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: just taking those moments to actually do some proper deep breaths. Right.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Two part breathing. Get it right into your guts, fill
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: up the guts, fill up the chest, get it out there.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Just spend ten nice, big deep breaths to change your
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: physiology right to actually stop and breathe and be and
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: at the same time when you're doing those breasts, Mate, reflection,
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: this is reflection is one of those things that you know.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Eckert totally said, awareness is the greatest agent for change.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: The thing is, Mate, we're so busy being busy that
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: we actually stop and reflect on where we are right
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: now in our lives and what we actually need to
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: do to move forward in a positive direction. So for me, Mate,
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: I have, you know, a routine that I do for
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: thirty minutes a day, combines all of those in it,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: and my reflection is just doing the battery. Like at
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: sixty seconds, I know exactly where I'm at. I share
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: it with my wife, I share it with a couple
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: of brothers, a couple of mates, and that's just a
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: good reflection to understand where I'm at, where my people
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: are at. And Mate, that's it. That's the rhythm that
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: I do every single day. And you know, I'll tell
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: you a funny story about this. It was so twenty
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: twelve I started researching all this right twenty fifteen, we
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: created the frameworking Now we're now using it globally and
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: we're working for all these large corporations. And one of
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: the indigenous elevelers in my community, Russell Logan, he's a
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: great bloke, and we're paddleboarding down the creek and anyway.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Rusk goes, so, you know, you know this green x
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: seven thing you're doing, hey, Bruhs. And I was like, yeah, Russ.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: He goes, well, you know these seven tools. I was
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: like yeah, mate. He goes, you know your bloody stole
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: that from us, didn't you, mate? And I was like
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: and I was like, bullshit, mate, I spent years researching this.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: He goes, no, no, no, Timmy, you're missing the point,
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: he said, mate, Us blackfellas have been doing these seven
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: tools since the big inning of time, he said. The
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: problem is to me now we need you to teach
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: it back to us because we've forgotten how to live
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: it a right. And I couldn't believe it, mate, because
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: I came home and I sat there and I looked
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: at him and I went, he's bloody right. Indigenous people
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: have been doing this since the beginning of time, right.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: It's in bred, inness, mate. It's what we're supposed to do.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: We're supposed to be active outside, connecting, living in communities, right,
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: The industry of less revolution fucked it for us, mate.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: We took everyone from their communities, put us into factories
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: and everything's changed since. And so when I think about it,
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: I was like, man, maybe we actually need to go
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: living back to basics, right, living the way that we
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: used to live that was conducive for our mind, body
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: and souls.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: So what would you say me it too?
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: Let's peck a really difficult kiss, right, Not that somebody
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: who's worken sixty hours a week in a high pod
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: job and has got all of that.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: What about the single mom or single dad.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: Who are who are struggling, right, who are just struggling
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: to get through day to day.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: You know, they've got kids they're looking after, they don't
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: have help.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: Were do they actually start any tools or tips for them?
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Honestly, Paul, I think just moving. I think the first
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: thing that you can do is just to start to
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: move your body. And Albert Einstein instead said, you know,
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: nothing happens until something moves. And when you're stuck in
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: that state, mate, it is really bloody hard to get motivated.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: I get it, Like it's if you're stuck in that dark,
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: deep cave and you can't get out of your own
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: mind and your own brain, and you think that life
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: is just not worth living. I think if you can
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: just move your body, whether that's just starting for five
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: minutes walk a day, or you know, grabbing your dog
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: or anything like that, I think that's kind of where
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: it starts. Because we know the happy chemicals that are producers,
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: you know, the serotonins of bdnfs and all that sort
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: of thing. I think it starts with movement. After that,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: I actually think it starts with finding someone you like
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: and spending more time with them. And this just could
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: be a friend, it could be a companion, it doesn't
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: matter who it is, mate, but taking that person along
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: with you, because what's going to happen is not only
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: a you going to move your body. Right if you're
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: having a conversation with someone and there's no phones attached,
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: there being one hundred percent present with you in the moment.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: That is when you see, you see, you know, you
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: feel seen, and you feel heard, and that's what creates value.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: And what that's going to do, like I was saying before, mate,
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: is that's going to want to make you keep walking.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Now we have these pack of cards that we created
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: so when mal took his life, we created these pack
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: of cards, and this is how we got the contract
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: with the Australian Defense Force because these pack of cards
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: make blots open up more than anything else I've ever seen.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: It's like there's some magic in them. And on the
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: back of the time card, all it says is, you know,
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: for the next minute, all I want you to do
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: is set one intention that you're going to do for
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: the next hour. So take one minute right now and
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: set an intention of what you're going to do for
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: this next hour, mate, I remember set. Getting an email
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: is a very very long email from a lady that
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: has been stuck in deep, deep dark depression for a
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: very long time, and she found these cards through a
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: friend of a friend and she said, Tommy, that one
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: card has changed my life because I was stuck in
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: my house for two weeks straight. This time, I could
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: hardly get out of bed. I read that card and
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: she said, you know what, I'm just going to vacuum
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: my house. And so she grabbed her vacuum, Mate, and
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: for the next hour she just vacuumed her house. And
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: then once she finished that, she picked the card up again.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: She goes right I'm going to wash the dishes. And sometimes, Mate,
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: when you're in a really, really dark space, you can't
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: think about the next day, right, You can't even think
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: about the next week, the next year, this, You can't
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: think about anything, mate, And people are saying, oh, you know,
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: come and mate, pull your socks up, like you know,
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: it's okay, Life's going to be fine. And you're like, mate,
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: I don't even know what I'm going to do for
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: the next fucking thirty minutes, let alone for the rest
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: of her life. And so what she did with that
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: one card is she moved her body, mate, And what
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: she did is created tiny, little micro tasks that made
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: her feel valued because she actually achieved something, no matter
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: how little it was made. Folding the washing, right, just
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: vacuuminting the house, going outside and gardening the weeds. It
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: was just one small intention after the next, after the next,
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: and Mate, that's all she did. She just kept that
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: card with her and whenever she went into a deep
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: dark place, she'd read that card and she'd go and
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: do something simple, which would then create momentum.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: And then I love it. I love it because it
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: combines two things.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: Right, is the movement actually moving your body is hugely important.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: But having a task or something to do, and what
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: most people don't realize is that motivation follows action, not
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: the other way round. To say, so actually setting herself
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: a little goal and going and doing it and achieving something.
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: That's when the Brian Nan releases dealpum in so you
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: can take further actions.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: So absolutely love it. So Tim, look, this has been awesome.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: It should be energizing for lots of people who are
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: and maybe confronting in equal measure, but I think it's
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: an important conversation.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: So the book is called Energized, the.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: Daily Practice of Connected Leadership and Sustainable Wellbeing.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Where can people go to find more about you?
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: About Green x seven program, Companies that want to bring
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: in as a speaker, want to access you? Up, can
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: individuals access the battery because it's a pretty cool little tool,
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: So just give us all of it most stick it
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: in the show notes.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, beautiful mate. Look, green x seven is our company.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: You can just go to greenexseven dot com. You can
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: do the battery check on the website. I think we're
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: launching it August twenty six, you know, with the book launch,
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: and we're also going to be measuring live on TV, mate,
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: measuring astray as well being live in sixty seconds. So
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: the brilliant thing. Yeah, this is what I'm actually really
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: excited about, mate. Sorry for a diversion, but you know,
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: we're going to be able to literally measure you know,
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: your neighborhood, you know, gender, age, and we're going to
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: be able to pinpoint exactly what your neighborhood needs to
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: you know, thrive sustainably. And we're going to blueprint this, mate,
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: so using it for you know, taking thriving communities and
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: take that blueprint and put it onto communities that are
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: surviving or just functioning. So that's that's my big purpose
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: goal at the moment. So yeah, greenex seven dot com. Mate.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm Tim Jack Adams. You can throw me
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: in on LinkedIn or whatever anything like that. I'm not
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: very good at the whole socials thing, mate, so you know, yeah,
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: I know, but I always tell people just to go
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: find me in nature. But yeah, look Greenex seven, you
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: know team Jack Adams made something like that. But to
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: be honest, mate, I just I think Maye and you
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: would know the same after all this research of doing
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: it for so long for me, ring people's batteries for
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: seven years. From everything that I've known, I think the
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: most important thing is, mate, is to ditch technologies just
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: for a little bit and just grab a friend and
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: go outside and play. I think that is probably the
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: most important thing that we can do as individuals, for
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: our families, for our teams, for our communities. Just go
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: back outside and play because that's where we belong, right
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: and that's what I want people to remember. Go have
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: some fun again, because Mate, there's not one scrap of
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: evidence to say that life should be taken seriously because
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: I've been looking for it and I can't find it.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: And on that awesome note, thank you very much for
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: your time, and thank you on behalf of the word
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: for the work that you're doing and trying to move
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: the needle because it's freaking important work and it's.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: Becoming more and more important.
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: So hopefully not only can you measure the battery of
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: the nition, but help to move the kneel on it,
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: which would be bloody awesome.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Thanks well. I appreciate it, mate, and I love the
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: work you're doing too, brother, well done.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: Awesome