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DM Etiquette, Modeling Politics, and What Does 'I'm Busy' Really Mean with Shyla Marie · The REALationship Method

• 0:11
  SPEAKER_01: 54321.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome back to another episode of the Relationship Method Podcast.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_01: It's your boy Chris, and today I have a very special guest.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_01: Took her ass a long time to uh finally get on here, but I got her here.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um, she's a mom.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_01: She is a model, and she is photographing these other models.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_01: Here we go.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_01: Motherfucker, I got Silo Marie up in this bitch.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_01: Hell yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: What is up, girl?
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, and I got that shit running right there.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_01: Perfect.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_01: Don't even worry, see?
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_01: Back up to the backup.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_00: Awesome.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_01: Cool.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um, let me double check if that's going though.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_00: No, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 0:58
  unknown: Oh, yeah.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_00: She's good?
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_00: Cool.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_01: I'll edit that bitch too.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_01: Girl, what is up?
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_00: What's tea?
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about it.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_00: Let's spill the tea.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_01: First off, Miss Shila.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, how did I get the yes from you to come on, you know, this podcast?
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_00: I honestly, um, a lot of your videos pop up on my explore page.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like it kept popping up, so I was like, I I think I need to be on your show.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: You actually did it with um, I might butcher her name, Malia Banks.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_01: Malia Banks?
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_00: Maliana, I don't know.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_01: Maliana.
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  SPEAKER_00: She's a model.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_00: You literally had her on your podcast.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_01: I've had plenty of models.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_00: She starts with an M.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_00: Her her last name is Bank.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, okay, okay.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_01: She popped up.
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  SPEAKER_01: Mayleen.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, yes.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not all good.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_01: No, no.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, she's cool.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um, she's from Vegas.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_01: The one from Vegas, right?
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So after that, after that video, I was like, you know what?
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_01: Let's chop it up.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, you kept popping up.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I literally was like, I feel like I should just come on here.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I do appreciate you for coming on.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, quick question.
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  SPEAKER_01: How does that algorithm work?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like you said, I kept on popping up.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I think the very first time I've ever heard of that shit.
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  SPEAKER_00: On a the explore page?
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, how does that help?
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I think like followers, like who you follow and stuff, or what you like a lot too.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I I do listen to podcasts on Instagram or like um what's his name?
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_00: Brata Cruz pops up on my explore page too.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_00: I don't follow him.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_01: Oh really?
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they I they just pop up.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_00: Oh it's but mainly on my explore page is like models, um, food.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_01: She's a foodie.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um, quotes, stuff like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Inspirational motivation.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think it's what you like and what your followers like too that pop up on your stuff.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like TikTok?
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  SPEAKER_01: What your followers like too that pops up on your explore page.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like on TikTok, if um if we followed each other and you reposted something, I would it would pop up on my for you on my page because you I follow you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, yeah, it's a social media is fucking crazy.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-mm, girl.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_01: And uh what do you got planned for today?
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_01: And like, how was your week?
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  SPEAKER_01: How was your day and all that?
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, well, as a mommy, we don't have like set days, we just wake up and this is true.
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  SPEAKER_00: Wherever the baby wants to do, whatever he wants to do, we're gonna go do it.
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  SPEAKER_00: But um, this week has been a lot of planning, lots of photo shoots, um, and then prepping for the fashion show.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_00: The Halloween fashion show, October 18th.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_01: Ooh, October 18th.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, this stay tuned for details.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_01: This should be out before that.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_01: If not, then just tag me.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_01: I got you.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um so uh the modeling, right?
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_01: We and I were talking earlier.
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  SPEAKER_01: Quick, how did you get into that?
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  SPEAKER_01: And do you know, I mean, like, do you still like it and everything?
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_00: I do.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, I love it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've been modeling since uh like I want to say 2019.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, well, it I wouldn't say modeling because I was just taking pictures with friends at the beach, yeah, kind of thing.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_00: And then when she was posting it, photographers would reach out to me and be like, hey, do you want to shoot for me with this and this?
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
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  SPEAKER_00: Couple bikini brands.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I just kept people were reaching out.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_00: I reached out to people, photographers, yeah.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_00: Just kept going.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then after I had my son took a little break, lost a lot of weight, and you know, just trying to get back into it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And now with the mom bod, it's a little different.
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  SPEAKER_00: Question.
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  SPEAKER_00: I still love modeling.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_01: How um, how did you lose?
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_01: Someone was asking, how did you lose like of the mommy weight for mommies out there that just gave birth and you know you you've gained a little, you know, a little not some happy pounds.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: How did you lose it so so quick?
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm a breastfeeding mommy, so I still breastfeed him.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so you definitely lose a lot of um weight when you breastfeed.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_00: Is that is that real?
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_00: You can look it up, it's one factual.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_01: Such a ass.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_01: It is.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_01: Because my wife, she did the whole similec infamil thing.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, she wasn't breastfeeding?
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_01: She did she did, but it wasn't, she wasn't producing enough.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_00: Enough.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_00: Probably um, well, because you guys, well, from when I gave birth, baby was on nene.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't ever put him on.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_01: She was on what?
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_00: Nene.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_00: He was on nene.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Chi Chi um boob, nene.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_01: He was on the boob.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I was like, what the f from the beginning, he's been on on Nene, so uh I never put him on Similac or nothing like that.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_00: He he latches to both.
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  SPEAKER_00: So um when you breastfeed, you definitely lose weight, and then honestly, like postpartum definitely did a did a bit its big one on me.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_01: For sure, girl.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_01: My white shit.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna say we.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_01: We went through postpartum.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_01: Like um, she was like we I had to get her um It's no joker a therapist.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_00: It's no joke.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_01: Because your whole XY chromosome is like super imbalanced.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we she went through that, and it was uh, I'm not I'm not even gonna lie, it was a struggle for me not to like because I'm pretty witty with my words to not say something that would trigger her triggering things.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, I I was very emotional.
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  SPEAKER_00: I would look at myself in the mirror and just ball like um the pain, you know, like and then from I was modeling before, right?
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_00: I was very constant in modeling.
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  SPEAKER_00: So after when I gained almost I was 135 pre-pregnancy, and then post-pregnancy I was I gave birth at like 198.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was big as fuck.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_01: Was your um did was your hair falling out as well?
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_00: My hair definitely did.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_00: I have some baby hairs still that are still growing in.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um pregnancy took its toll.
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  SPEAKER_00: I had a very hard pregnancy and a very easy birth.
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  SPEAKER_01: Really?
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  SPEAKER_00: Very easy.
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  SPEAKER_00: He came out in three minutes.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, he came out through the canal, no C-section, no nothing.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_01: No, slipped right out.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_01: Did you did you get any drugs?
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_01: Did you?
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_00: I did do the epiduro.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, I actually I wanted to do it natural.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_00: I thought it could be a survivor, but no.
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  SPEAKER_00: I thought it could be a soldier.
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  SPEAKER_00: Every contraction, every cramp, I thought I was like, I was done for.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_00: I couldn't, but the second I was able to get the epiduro, I got it and it was amazing.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_00: I loved it.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_01: Was um was anyone else in the room with you when my mummy and my other half, yeah.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah let me ask you this.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_01: This might be funny.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, the other people that was like on the other side while you were giving birth, did they ever give you a description on what it looked like?
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_00: My mom actually has the video on her iPad.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_00: I've never seen it.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_01: You've never seen it, why not?
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um traumatizing?
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_00: Not that it's traumatizing.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_00: I just like I don't want to see my vagina ripped to the size of a bowling ball.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_00: It's not something I want to see.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_00: But my mom does have the video on her iPad.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure if she's watched it.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_00: I have not.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it was all females in the room, and we definitely had some cameras set up.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_00: One in the back getting us with from the back to the mom had the front shot.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_01: Ah, pause.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um for my fellas that are not yet parents, it looks like a horse's eyeball.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_00: Well, let's not scare them.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_00: No, man, like a horse eyeball.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's just it okay.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_00: So when you when you were you were in the room for all pregnant, all births.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, unfortunately, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Was every birth different?
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_01: Uh when you say different, like what do you mean like the experience, the um the same, was it the same procedures every time?
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_01: Was it the same procedure?
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_01: Um two out of three of them, because I wasn't with I wasn't in when with with her child, right?
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_01: But two out of three, a game was on.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_01: So the game?
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_01: A game, like some type of football.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_01: Oh no, so you better not.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_01: So I was fixated.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_01: No, because I knowing me, I would like have some type of panic attack because it's it's surreal, you know what I'm saying?
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_01: Like you're looking at you're like, oh my god.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_00: Can you imagine what wifey's going through?
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_00: But I was like, no, I was like this.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_00: I was I was attacked.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_00: I want to close the nurse, break that TV, turn it off before I break it right now.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_01: But that's how that's how I calmed myself down, you know, because otherwise I would have been like, oh my god, oh my god, what the fuck, you know?
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_01: Frantic.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_01: So um, no, everything came through the um the birthing place.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_01: Uh she did use the epidural.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um every single time.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_01: The three, yeah.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, nice.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um the C-section, that was uh, it wasn't uh how do you say it wasn't offered because she didn't have to go through that.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but the the last two, it went by pretty quick.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_01: Like it, yeah.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_00: Cause it's an experience.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_00: No, it is.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_00: It is, especially when you're hearing things.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_01: Were you like a were you a screamer?
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_00: Or were you uh I no, I was not.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_00: I there was no need to scream, there was no pain to feel.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_00: Oh there was nothing.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_00: I literally the only thing that I had to do was like just clinch.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_00: There were I for the people who do have the epidural, personally, I felt not nothing, not a single thing, so I didn't need to scream.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_00: Go ahead, girl.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_00: I did not need to scream.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_00: She's a soldier, but um afterwards I was kind of just like not screaming, but I was like, you know, I was scared because it was like I just pushed this thing out of me, you know what I mean?
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I can't believe I'm holding my child that's been growing in me for nine months.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_00: It was it was surreal for real.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_00: But I wasn't a screamer and it wasn't my pregnancy was fucking terrible.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like the nine months?
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_01: Or are you talking about like oh really?
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I definitely my back pain.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um my pelvis felt like it was gonna detach from my spine.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_00: Like it was excruciating.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_00: My other half had to literally like it, it took 20 minutes to get off the bed.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_00: I was crying every time I had to get off the bed, I cried.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_00: It fucking hurt, and I literally could not wait for the day to give birth.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, I was excruciating.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_00: Even my other half says like I had a really hard pregnancy.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_00: And the doctors tell me that it's nine out of ten that I'll have those back pains every pregnancy.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_01: Would you um would you want any more kids after the city?
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, we're having more kids.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_01: Well, hey um, Mr.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_01: Shila.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_01: Get ready.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_00: He said to multiply your fruits.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_01: Get them swimmers ready, man.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that that's what's up.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_01: That is what's up.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_01: And um, this is your first pod?
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_00: It is my first pod.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_01: First pod.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_01: Hell yeah.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um, my week was pretty uh it was pretty interesting.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_01: It was pretty fun actually, because it was my um, it was my wife's birthday, and a couple days after it was our anniversary.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_00: What exciting! Yeah, you know what?
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_00: 12 years.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_00: My uh Shiloh's birthday is August 29th, then my other half is the second, and then our anniversary is September 7th.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_00: 17th, I'm sorry.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_01: Second as in September 2nd.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so they were there was the party, and then his party, and then our anniversary.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's like all back to back to that.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_01: Girl, my wife's birthday is on this September 6th.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_01: Our anniversary was on the 8th, and our last one.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, awesome.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_01: You guys is not awesome.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_00: You guys got together after her birthday.
• 12:27
  unknown: Oh my god, yeah.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_00: Years ago.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_01: Fun story, and I think I told this on the pod.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_01: The way I proposed to my wife was the the ring felt the ring fell out of my pocket as I was folding my clothes.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_01: Because I forgot it was in my pocket.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_01: And she was like, oh.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_00: Why was it not in a box?
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_00: Were you gonna propose to her that day?
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_01: No, I was um, that was the same day where I asked her dad for permission.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_01: So I showed him and then I just threw it in my pocket, not knowing.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_01: Fold that motherfucker, and then and then she was like, What's this?
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, oh fuck, I get well, I'm gonna get married.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_00: Oh man, were you were you gonna have like a big setup for her?
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like a cute little bit.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_01: Uh like it's I'm not that like big on things like that.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_01: I was gonna make I was gonna make it like nice though.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_01: Like not dinner, but like a picnic or whatnot.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we can but nothing, nothing like so.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_00: Because me, I was just talking to my other half about that.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I was like, you better not marry me in a room, a kitchen, a hallway.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I want like a cute little sunset, little it doesn't have to you don't gotta spend grand.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: We literally can go to the beach, have a picnic, like you said.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_00: I don't I would I would hate to be proposed to in a in a bathroom.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_01: But what if it what if it was a like the timing of it?
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_00: Doesn't time like you're saying, like how your yours happened, the timing.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_01: No, see, for me, it was a freaking accident, huh?
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_00: Did you re did you do it right after?
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_00: Or you was just like, fuck it.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_01: Will you marry me?
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_01: The second part I was like, uh I didn't say fuck it, but I was like, damn.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_01: I kind of I kind of fucked up, but because I messed up, because that let that set the standard super low.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, shit.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_01: I had all these years of fucking.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_01: So to fucking.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_00: I built it up, yeah.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_00: So that's where that's where I'm at right now.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like up here.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_01: I fucked it up down here.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_01: I messed it up down here.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_00: We'll accept that.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_00: I've had years you had you had multiple times.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, good, good.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so like I'm I'm that type of guy where I try to set the standard super low so the next year or the next event I could top yourself.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_01: Top it.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you gotta what you you can you gotta keep thinking of shit.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like keep thinking of shit.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta be like, okay, we just had a a horseback ride last year.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_00: This year we gotta go dolphin.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, skip.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, that's more duckets in my pockets.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, you have 365 days to get your ducks up.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, and and do your big one for not giving wifey her proper proposal that she deserves.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you're killing me, Shah.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_01: It is what it is.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_01: But for her birthday, let me tell you what I did for her birthday.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_01: So for her birthday, um, me, her, and the kids, I I took her kayaking.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, nice.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_00: Scary.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_01: And then um uh I set a spa day for her.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_01: And because I don't do the like the chocolates or foods or flowers anymore because, and I told her this numerous times and she finally accepted it.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_01: Flowers die.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_01: Chocolates, if you don't eat the chocolates, they get stale.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_01: So basically I try to do things as a female.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_01: Oh god.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_00: You like the flowers and the it's more about the gesture.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_00: I tell my other half, yeah, it's about the gesture.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_00: I don't care the flowers die.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: I want you to get off of a 10-hour shift, go to the store, and think, hey, my baby needs a little$3 rose.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_00: Why not?
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you make it.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: You don't have to get her a giant box of 500 pieces of chocolate, you know, like a little rose, little recess pieces, peanut butter bars, and a little card.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_00: Not even 20.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_01: We got her a card.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_01: We got we got her a card.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: Was there money in the card?
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_01: No way.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: No way.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: No way.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_01: Because something came out of my pocket.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying, if you it don't gotta be flowers, it could be a letter.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: You could write her a letter.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_01: I wrote her a letter in the card.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_00: That's nice.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_01: I did set up something for the kids.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like they wrote, they made their own card for her, and I also wrapped up gifts uh so like for them to present to her.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: So all the presents that I got her, I made it from the kids.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: Nice, does that make sense?
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yeah.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_01: So she did the spa.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_01: She was kind of hesitant with the spa because she was like, Oh, you're not coming with me.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, Hell no, this is your day.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_01: You feel me?
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_01: So I left her at the spa, and then hours later, I dropped her off to is it generally?
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_00: Do you see why she asked if you were gonna come with her, right?
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_00: Because she would have wanted you to be there with her.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: It's a it's for me, like, I don't I don't want a full body massage by myself.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: I want my man to enjoy it with me.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_01: So backstory to that.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, she just recently got promoted to a higher position at work.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_01: Oh nice.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_01: So she's now working more hours, and then I'm I are, you know, like I'm um I'm I'm observant, so I hear her like, oh my bag, my so I'm just like, dude, pamper.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like, as a man, I'm like, I want to fix it.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_00: We definitely I I literally just booked a full body massage for um justice for his birthday.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_01: Word.
• 17:27
  unknown: Fucking terrible.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_00: Why experience?
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: We went, I think it's just where we went, but we were cut 20 minutes short from the massage.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_00: And I tipped them$10.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna question anything, I'm just gonna give you your money.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um 20 minutes, not five, not three, twenty.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and we were literally we were about to leave, and she was like, the lady was like,$10.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_00: That's it,$10.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_01: Where was this at?
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_00: Pin Thai massage.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_01: Where's it is that in town?
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's in Waikiki.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_01: Waikiki?
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_01: We went to Sakura.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_01: I might say no.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_00: Wait, is it is it uh is it a food place?
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, it's uh it's a massage place.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_00: Oh I don't know.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um it's uh I'm not so familiar with streets, but it's uh it's in Waikiki.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, it's on like the 39th floor of some type of building, so she had the view and everything, but it was called Sakura Spa or something.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_00: But ours was also in a building as well.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_00: But in our in in the building, because we had to ask for directions.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: I guess there's multiple massage um yeah building rooms in the building.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_00: Were?
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so it was like uh a big building full of massage places, I guess.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but it was a it was uh he l he enjoyed it, but even he we we got up, he was like, Oh, that was short.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: Looked at the time, still had 19 minutes on the timer.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_00: I said it.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_00: It was supposed to be an hour.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_01: Oh an hour.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, okay.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_01: Mine was uh well hers was I booked it for like two hours and some change.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_01: Oh wow, yeah, so that's nice.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's some duck again, duck it.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_00: Ours was I only only would have been one forty.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh really?
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_00: But I um added like decorations, so that was extra 50, then I tipped them.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_00: They would have got more tip, but we were cut 20 minutes short.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_00: We weren't gonna make I I looked at justice and I showed him my other half.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_00: I I showed him the timer, he was like, let's just go.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_01: So with your man, right?
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_01: You go ham when it comes to like birthdays and anniversaries, like well as a stay-at-home mommy, I don't I'm not gonna ask for my man's car to buy him something for his money.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: That's not how I roll.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna do what I can, make my money, and like last year I um I wasn't doing photography as bad as I am now, like as frequent.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: So your your hustle wasn't.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm a hustler.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I'm always a hustler.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_00: I know how to make my money, but so last year I ended up going through all my clothes, shoes, heels, bikinis, sold and made$500 and bought my other half a bunch of gifts.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna I I couldn't find it in me to ask my man for his card for gifts for him.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_01: Let me ask you this uh before I finish up.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: You know what?
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: I'll finish this.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_01: So after um, after the massage, uh I took her to Gen and she met up with her friends.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I I called all of her friends up without her knowing.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, because I G.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, social media.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_01: I hit them up, I was like, yo, dinner.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_01: They're like, Oh, for why?
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_01: Tiff's birthday.
• 20:22
  unknown: Yeah.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_01: How do you not know?
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_01: And then uh I dropped her off.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_01: She's like, Oh, you're not eating with us.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, no, I can't.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_00: Damn, you didn't spend the day with her?
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_01: We did the first half, but I still had daddy duty, so I had to put the kids down.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, showers, dinner.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_01: So I was like, yo, you chill with your friends because our anniversary was a couple days after.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_01: So that was done.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: Nice.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_01: Our anniversary happened.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_01: So we did uh um uh-oh, I forgot.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_01: No, I didn't.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_01: We watched The Conjuring.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_01: Oh nice.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_01: So she took that, she took that L for me because I love horror movies, she hates them.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_01: And then we uh I took her to do something fun like nerf, nerf shooting.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Alamoana.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_01: No, and um Pearl Ridge.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, the Little Pups place.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_01: The dude hooked me up.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_01: Shout out to that guy because he looked he hooked me up for like an hour and some change, and he only charged me like half of that.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_01: So shout out to him.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, because we're like the first ones in there, right?
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: So um her.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_01: It was them.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_01: It was them.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, we did that, and then we're supposed to do an escape room because that's like our thing, right?
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_01: But it was all booked up.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_01: I tried booking it like two weeks in advance, and it was all booked, so we didn't do that, but at night we just spent like just time with the kids.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_01: That was like our whole anniversary.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, just enjoying it.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so it's like it was super low-key.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: And the reason why I asked you of like what you do for your man be is because with me now, like being at the age I'm at, back in the day, of course, I wanted shoes, I wanted hats, I wanted everything.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_01: All I do, all I want now is like just 24 hours of like alone time.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_01: Or or just like, man, give me my Big Macs and I'm straight.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_01: Like, it doesn't take a lot to please you.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_00: To please you.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, well, to answer your question, um like this year, I couldn't go as full out as I did last year.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I just got him a personalized hat with my name on it.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_00: And then personalized what?
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_00: Hat.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: And then um a massage, and he was grateful.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like he he tells me I don't have to do anything, but it it brings joy to me to see.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_00: Is that your give him something?
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_01: Is that your love language?
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_01: Gift giving?
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_00: Gift giving, physical touch, words of affirmation.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, those three things.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_01: What's your man's if you don't mind me asking?
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, his is also physical touch.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: He loves like just when I acknowledge him and play with his beard or you know that words of affirmation, yeah.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_00: Words I always, yeah.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_00: I tell my man I love him 500 times a day.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's um like 85 to 8 statistics say 85 to 87% of men, words of affirmation like does it for us.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_00: That's more than half.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: That's literally like almost all of men.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like the yours is words of affirmation.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's definitely that.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: You want your wife to tell come up to you?
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_01: Just thank you.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I yeah.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_00: Every time we go out to eat, every time my man buy gets me a Starbucks, a fucking cake bought from Starbucks.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, or like the hey man.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_01: She hasn't said this yet.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_01: Well, she hasn't said this in a while, but I hope you're watching, wife.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_01: She'll fuck me up.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_01: No, but she hasn't said this in a while, but hey, thanks for knocking out mortgage again.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like, because I do it every month, right?
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: But but is that not your job?
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_01: Ooh, we could get into this now.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_01: No, it is my job, but like just hearing it from you know, just like, hey man, thanks for keeping the lights on, or hey, this is this internet's coming in clutch right now because I do need this Wi-Fi.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_01: Like, little shit like that, it it man, it gives me like a fucking boner kind of, you know, because I I like hearing it, especially when I hear from my kids.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, dad, thank you for the food, man.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't know you gave me pizza for lunch.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_01: That that little type shit.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_00: So uh when you're um when it's your kids' birthdays or things like that, you guys go all out?
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_00: Uh or do you guys do trips type of thing?
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_01: Ooh, we could talk about that.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um we don't go all out because uh is the fact that I'm I'm that type of person, like I'm afraid of if we do go full out and we fight invite these people, they don't show up.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like the friends don't show up.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, dude, that's crushing.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_01: So we do these um, like uh just us, we do these little gatherings, like um, we go like wet and wild for the whole day, or we go to Kiki Kingdom.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_01: They love that shit.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, especially like they're little, so a little bit of an amusement, hey man, goes a long way with that.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_00: Gets them tired, get some hungry, and they sleep good.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly, yeah.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_01: They love the ocean, so we we beaching.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_01: So they love that.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_01: But um, yeah, so with the kids, yeah, that's one thing that I'm afraid of doing is like if I do throw out party and then everyone.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_01: They just don't show up and I have all this food left.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, oh my god, I wanna like I don't cry, but it just just thinking about it.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_01: It's just heart tingles, man.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like no dog, it just messes up, yeah.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I'm not pretty big on parties anymore.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, how about you?
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_00: Are you yeah, we actually just threw well my other we want my other half wanted to take me and Shiloh on a trip.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_01: Trip as in like off the island for his birthday, but to the mainland, yeah.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_00: But we ended up throwing him a fat party because we wanted, you know, everybody to because if my other half, if we end up moving states, we want you know our family to be involved in Shiloh's life as much as we can now, you know, before we leave.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_00: So we wanted to throw a fat party and everybody that we wanted not everybody showed up, which is okay, but it was still a pretty party.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_00: Great.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_01: Oh man.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: We had it was the Lorax theme, we had a band, we had two bands, we had desserts, an open bar, we had food, like everybody had a good time.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_01: Did you dress up?
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I didn't dress too much up because I knew I would have been swenched, but me and other half and baby we were all matching and stuff, and um everybody was there to celebrate my son, and I loved it.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's good.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I like to see, but I hear you, like not in inviting everybody, but it doesn't hurt to like try, you know?
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but see but you just don't want to invest for 200 people and then only 90 people show up.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I hear you.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_01: But see, the the thing is is that a lot, most I'm gonna say like 99% of my family, they're all on the mainland.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_01: Like both of us we're not from here, so it's like it's hard to throw these type of types of intimate parties.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_00: Well, what about like kids from school, like their friends, or do you I'm sure you guys have friends here too?
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_01: Or see, I'm not you haven't?
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_00: You don't have like a big I don't that's fine.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: You know what?
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_00: Well having a lot of friends is not it's not it's not for everybody it's girl, it's not.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, just one, two good close friends is good enough.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_00: Sentimental.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_01: This is facts, girl.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_01: This is facts, factual, factual.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_01: So let me ask you this.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I know what your occupation is, you're nine to five.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_01: My my uh mine is a program analyst, and um the way I got this is uh like my resume is pretty stacked, right?
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_01: Okay prior to this, I was trying to find a job because I got out of active side, and uh I was having a little bit of a hard time of finding a job that I wanted.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that I wanted.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like I was offered jobs, but you want a job that you enjoy, yeah, yeah.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_01: Or like, you know, good paid and stuff.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_01: So one of like one of the personnel from the army that I worked with, he was like, yo, we got this position open, apply for it, I got you in.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, okay, bet.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_01: Is it cool that I don't have any of these qualifications or whatever?
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_01: And he was like, Yeah, man, I'll train you.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, for sure, turn it in, I got the gig.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_01: How about you?
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_01: Like, has that ever happened to where you um like say you are qualified for the job, but it just wasn't going your way.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, so not of the job, not of a job, um, because I wouldn't have gotten paid for it, but there's definitely a few times where um personally I've done some castings and I just I gave my all, you know, I got acknowledged by audiences, social media, you know, people were like, girl, you got that, you ate that down.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_00: And I just in my heart, I'm like, oh yeah, I got this.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_00: You know, confident.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_00: You want to stay confident, speak it into existence, right?
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, no.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_01: So when you say castings for people that don't know what casting is like for a television show or for modeling, um for fashion shows, for um bikini shows, Hawaii, like swim shows, things like that.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_00: You get cast, you have to get casted.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's not like you just sign a waiver and you're in.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_00: You have to like a person gotta know you.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I feel like you defin excuse me.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like in Hawaii it's not what you know, it's who you know.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_01: This is facts.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_01: Uh this works.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna say 73% of the time when I when I got out of the active duty and I was looking for jobs, it was people that I knew was like, hey, he's a good cat.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_00: I got you a man.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_00: Like just pulling in, putting in a good word.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it wasn't my resume.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like because Hawaii is so small, yeah, it's like everybody knows everybody.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody's a cousin, a sister, an ex, or something like that, right?
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_00: So I feel like it's a lot of talking, a lot of back and forth, a lot of he said, she said on the island, and it's like it's not more so, oh, I want to see what you can bring to the table myself.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, oh, my best friend from 25 years ago said this and this and this about you.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_00: I'm good.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like it's like I feel like some people should.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_00: Take that step and not listen to what people gotta say.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_00: And if you see something like me personally, if I was a director for a show, a casting or anything of that nature, and if I see a girl, you know, we had beef in the past 10, 5 years ago, and you ate that down.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not a hater.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna give you that job because you ate that down.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like in Hawaii, I feel like it's like personally, I I'm confident, I'm pretty, I can model.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_00: But what I do outside of modeling does not affect who I am as a model, you know, like and how I model.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like it's it's very hard to in Hawaii because it's he said, she said, a lot of friends of friends, cousins, and things like that.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_00: So it's kind of hard to step foot in something that you've never dabbled in, you know.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like I've never been in a fashion show.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_00: So when you're stepping foot in it and it's like everybody's talking about you, everybody has something to say, it's kind of hard to get in there, you know.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_00: Because nobody wants backlash for you being on the show or whatever, you know what I mean?
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like your past, everybody has a past, everybody's done things that they regret, I feel like, and it's who they are today that people should judge, not what they did three years ago, five years ago.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_01: So for models that went I guess went through or that are going through what you went through, how are you bouncing back?
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_00: Like what's I'm trying to build my own, not build my own, I would say.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to everybody in Hawaii uses the same face, same models, same people.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um, they just go in a circle, you know.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_00: When there's other models who are really trying to get up there, step out of their comfort zone.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm like for me after I had Shiloh, it was so hard to be in a bikini.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_00: And then when I did that casting, it was a bikini casting.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I was fucking scared.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_00: I was nervous.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_00: But I it it turned out great, you know.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_00: It was a great experience, but I just didn't get it because of what he said, she said.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_00: And I I just have to say to the models that are having the same issues to just sprawl out on your own.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_00: Find people on your own.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_00: Don't go through the people, the faces of Hawaii, you know, go through the there's other known people, you know what I mean, that are trying to get out there and it's just hard because I don't know how to explain it.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_00: Have you ever Some people have more pool.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_00: I don't yeah, I guess you could say.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_01: Have you ever tried going through like an agency or whatnot?
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_00: Or I have not, actually.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_00: I haven't tried.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um I've seen a lot about it.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like you go through an agency and they book things for you and stuff like that.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I meant.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_00: But I haven't had the opportunity to, I I guess you could say.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_01: Have you ever tried acting?
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_00: I have not tried acting, no.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_01: Girl, let me tell you.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_01: I tried acting.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_01: I kind of fucking sucked at it.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I have um someone reached out because they're watching, um, watching up an episode of my pod.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_01: And they're like, hey, you should try or audition for this miniseries that we'll be filming in the East Side.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_01: On the OE.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, okay, bet.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_01: Thing is, is that I'm not fluent in Tagalog, because it's a Filipino like series or whatever.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_00: Speak Filipino though?
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_00: Filipino?
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_01: I've been trying to.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_01: But so they gave me a script.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_00: You understand?
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_01: I understand it completely.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_01: But when I when I speak it, oh gosh, it's like, because I know three dialects, and they all mush together.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just like, man, I kind of suck and I'm sorry.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_01: But I didn't kill the audition, but it's nerve-wracking recording yourself and reading this and trying to act it out.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_01: So that's why I asked, because I mean, you do have the face as an actor, and then when you say casting, it just triggers like movies and shows going out for.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_00: I um when we were in elementary, I had my cousin, she was trying to do like um, they were doing a casting for a Disney show, and she was gonna get it.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like she made it to like the next stage kind.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_00: But then they were like, Oh, it's um$900 for a ticket and this and this and this, and then we'll pro we'll we'll provide.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so it was like a big thing, and my cousin was crying because she they her to record it.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_00: But she was like, she made it to the next stage, and all she had to do was give that 900.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_01: Why?
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, that's that's the first time I ever I never went with my cousin, but she told me all about it, and it was just like wow.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_00: You know?
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-uh-uh.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_00: Just wasn't financially stable, but she probably would be on Disney right now if she girl with uh Dr.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_01: uh Kamehameha Doctor What?
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_01: No, isn't isn't it like a uh a Disney show?
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_01: It's like the the the island version of Doogie Houser.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_01: It's called Dr.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_01: Kamehameha or Dr.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_01: something something something something MD.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_00: I'd be on Netflix and Hulu now.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_00: I don't be on like Speck.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_01: What do you be watching on Netflix?
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um recently for since because we just moved into our new place, so I haven't been on anything yet.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_00: But um, I was actually on HBO Max watching um Game of Thrones, rewatching that.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_01: Game of Thrones is scary.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_00: My other half does not like it.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_00: He thinks it's too slow.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, uh, other half, wait till the season three, it gets better.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_01: When uh when the wars start happening, when Wolf is like at the ice.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_00: Don't spill everything.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, sorry, sorry.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_01: Don't wait for that, homie.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_01: You'll because it was slow for me too.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_00: His friend said that.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_00: His friend um that he works with told him to get on Game of Thrones, and so we did, but I ended up kept watching it.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_00: He didn't, he was like, This is too slow, I can't.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_00: But he his friend was like, just keep watching it, it gets better.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_01: Girl, I've been binge watching on Netflix, and this is like, this is gonna show a nerd to me.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_01: I just got into Demon Slayer.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_01: That's an anime.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_01: I got into Black Clover.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_01: That's an anime.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_00: Did you watch Black Mirror?
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_01: I've wat I didn't finish Black Mirror, but I w I'm watching a new season.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_01: And then um, I just started watching, oh, what is it called?
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um I'm I'm rewatching How I Met Your Mother.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_01: Because that's like one of my.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_00: Did you watch that series?
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um Suits?
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_01: Oh.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_00: Baby Reindeer.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_01: No, is it good?
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's fucking extravagant.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_01: Baby, wait, baby reindeer.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_01: Is it is it like a sci-fi?
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's like a um, it's a not a documentary, it's um a story about it's on Netflix and it's like about a guy who's being stalked by somebody.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_00: But the guy that's in that movie is the guy that it happened to in real life.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_00: So he's reenacting his life.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_00: No way.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so he's the real actor.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_01: Baby reindeer.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_01: Gotta check that model out.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_00: You have to.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_01: Cool.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's amazing.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, I think nine or ten episodes, so you can binge watch it.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you can watch it in a whole dinner and snack sesh for real.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_01: Holy crap, binge watching is freaking dangerous.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, we did binge watch baby reindeer, and then from that day, I just kept suggesting it to everybody.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_00: You have to watch baby.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, it's amazing.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_00: I I I I shouldn't say I love it because it's creepy as fuck and it's weird.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like, just like the storyline is weird as fuck.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_00: But it's like a really good move, like, you're gonna love it.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_01: What's your gen what's your preferred genre of I'm everywhere?
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_00: I love comedy documentaries.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_00: I used to love horror, and then like as I'm kind of easing into like my Christian, because I grew up Christian based, right?
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_01: Oh no way, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: So horror is like opening gateways to evil things, you know?
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_00: So I used to love it, watch it day and night.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_01: I love horror.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_00: Every new conjuring nun, everything I was in there.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_00: But now I try to stray away, like, there's the two nuns I haven't watched.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, it's just like those gateways.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_00: But excuse me.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um I just had a brain fart.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's okay.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_01: We have brain flops all the time.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_00: Baby reindeer is is the way to go for sure.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_00: Comedy.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_00: I love a good documentary, like a genre, um, a drama.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_00: Good drama.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not really into anime.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_01: Girl, I just got into it.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_00: Watch Dragon Ball Z.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_00: But that's about it.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's okay.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_01: It's okay.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_01: You have an inner nerd in you.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_00: She's there.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_00: She's she can be summoned.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so with horror, my wife hates me for it, but I love horror.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_01: But I've been into Filipino rom coms lately.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_01: And that's like my thing.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I love old school rom coms.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_00: What's that Korean zip call?
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know the name of it, but Korean rom coms though.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_00: My mom is just on YouTube reels, just sitting there.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_01: I don't understand.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_01: Something about Asian rom-coms just sucks you in.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_01: And I fucking hate that.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I've never sat in the Oh really?
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_00: No, I freaking hate it.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_00: I don't watch just everything in general.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_00: I cannot.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_01: Oh.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_01: Well, maybe it's because like uh growing up, uh, I was like, I watched a lot of Filipino movies, so maybe that's why.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm I always loved rom coms, but I love the old school rom-coms.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_01: Ooh, excuse you.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_01: Are you like an obnoxious sneezer?
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_00: I can sneeze like two.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_00: No, not loud, but it's like that, but then like 12 times.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, like in a row?
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_01: I get annoyed.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_01: I'll probably get seven times.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh my god, shut up already.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_00: My other half waits till I'm done bless sneezing, and then he's like, bless you.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_00: Instead of saying bless you, bless you, bless you.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, hey man, just put that motherfucker on repeat.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_01: Get him back.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_01: Bless you, repeat.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, we we did a lot of tangent.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_01: Let's like answer some of these questions.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, cool.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_01: So I gotta get you out of there.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um, do do we talked to some we talked about like some of them.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_01: Anything that popped out, or you know what?
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_01: How to recognize if a female is flirting with you?
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_01: A guy asks this, what are subtle ways that um uh woman is touching you?
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_00: Personally, I I don't every woman flirts in a different way.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_00: Some women twirl their hair or like keep touching, you know, like laugh when you when the guys say something that's not funny and they're like touching the shoulder.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_01: That's a flirt.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_00: Obvious signs of flirting, constant smiling, you know, like just like just grinning, blushing, uh-huh.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, giggling at nothing.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_01: Giggling at nothing.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like if you have a little comment and she's like giggling, she probably likes you.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, my guy, if you're like me, you're oblivious.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_01: So just keep on playing.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_01: Just play the long game, bro.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_01: Play the long game.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_00: If she keeps touching your shoulder, laughing, smiling, you know, that kind of stuff.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_01: She might be into you.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, possibly.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_00: There's like a 95% chance.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_01: Let me tell you this.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_01: My daughter, she's um, she's 20.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_01: She's uh, I want to say she's like borderline feminist, right?
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_01: So she's always telling me, she's like, Dad, men are dogs.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_01: Not all men, but most of them are.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_01: And she was like, Why?
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_01: She's like, they honestly think that because we are nice to them, uh that they like them.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_01: That they like them, yeah.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_01: Like that's I'm just being nice.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_00: Well, at the same time, it's like um you can be nice and then also I don't know.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_00: I I I see where she's coming from.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like is there a way to um distinguish distinguish a nice, like, oh, she's being nice back to her.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_00: I think I think you can tell if if you're conversating with a woman like at a bar and you're like, oh, can I buy you a shot?
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_00: And she's like, oh sure.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_01: Is that a nice shot?
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_00: If she takes the shot and then she's like, Oh, thank you, and she keeps trying to talk to you.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_01: That's an opening.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_00: That's you can still tell you.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_00: But if she if you buy the shot for her and she takes it and she's like, Oh, thank you so much.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_00: I I gotta go, or something like that.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_00: Obvious size to like exit the prem.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_01: What if it's not uh an uh a bar setting?
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, if it's like uh like uh I saw a party at a party or at a gathering, like a stranger?
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_01: Because you wouldn't walk up to anybody and no, yeah, a stranger, like, oh hey man, um c scenario, college setting.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, you're very pretty.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_01: What do you study?
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_00: You go to the school, you're obviously trying to get to know her.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_01: Or are you like or like the conversation that's how the conversation started.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_01: We're conversing it up.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, if the conversation, if she's like, if you keep asking questions and she's and it's like she's not asking you back, that's done.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_00: That's done.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_00: If she's just answering you and then you're just like, oh, so this and this and this, oh that's cool, and what about this and this and this?
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_00: And she's not gonna be able to get it.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_01: She's engaged.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, if she's not engaged.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_00: No, if she's just like, oh yeah, I I study English.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_01: That's a yeah, like but if she's thinking, it's like oh I think English because I want to do this, this is And what about you?
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_00: Then the conversation will continue.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_00: But if if a guy walks up to me, he's like, Oh, you're really pretty, what do you study?
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_00: I study English.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_01: And that's it.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_01: The cues.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_01: I think a lot of guys are oblivious to the cues and they just think it's dude, she's talking to me.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going for it.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_00: I freaking, I don't know.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_00: I really feel like you guys should be able to tell if a woman is digging you or not.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_01: Nah, not really.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_00: Because there's several times playing with you.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_00: If you can't, if like for me, I'm not gonna like honestly, if we were at a bar or something or out, I wouldn't approach you unless I'm trying to get to know you, trying to talk to you.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I wouldn't see a guy at the bar and be like, he's cute as fuck, let me go talk to him and then not have any other intentions after that.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not just gonna go and talk to you to waste my time.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to talk to you, get to know you.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_00: But if you're like like this one time before my um other half, I'd go to the bar.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_01: Before, before, before, before, right?
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_01: Before before.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_00: I'd go to the bar a lot.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, when I was stripping, I was an alcoholic.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I was like not doing my thing.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I would be at the bar all the time, and guys would constantly try to talk to me, and it was just like I just want the shots, dude.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_02: You know?
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_00: And then they were like, oh, can I have your number?
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_00: Oh no, I don't.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_00: Give them a fake number.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_00: Give them a do you have Instagram?
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_00: No, I don't do social media.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_00: Knowing damn well.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_01: Knowing damn well.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like, it's just that's just me.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't conversate with anybody to waste my time.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_00: If I think you're cute, I'm like, you know that.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like my other half, I slid in his DMs and did not leave that man alone.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, really?
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_01: Huh.
• 44:15
  unknown: 100%.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about the other topic.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_01: Let's get into that.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_01: That that motherfucker brought some uh hold on, hold on.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_01: Let's get into that.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um, um, um, hold on, uh what's the other top?
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you know what?
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_01: When a woman says, I'm too busy, what does that really mean?
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_01: Does it mean that she's really busy or no, I'm not gonna lie, if I'm gonna talk to you.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't know.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_00: If I um if she says she's busy, she probably just doesn't want to talk to you.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like if she's really doing something, like, oh, I gotta take my kids to school, or oh, I gotta go do this and this and this, she'll kind of like let you know what she's doing, you know?
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_01: But if she's just a blown, I'm busy.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_00: It's like like you don't gotta know what I'm doing.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_01: Question answered.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_00: I'll text you later, client, you know?
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 45:00
  unknown: Yeah.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_01: Someone wanted to know this.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_01: Jim.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_01: We both go to the gym.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um, women are wearing these particular garments.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_01: Why do women get offended when like say a guy glances?
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_01: Not even like a full like, but uh, you know, like a glance.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_00: Because so I've seen, I've seen, I literally just saw a video on Instagram of a girl at not here in the States or something, and she was um squatting or like she was like bouncing and like looked like she was bouncing on some dick.
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_00: And you could literally see that that's what it was replicating.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_00: So the guy walked up to her and said, like, this isn't the don't fucking do that over here at the gym.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_00: And she was all like, what do you you know?
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_00: She misinterpreted, but she's literally in tight ass leggings in the form of bouncing in in the gym.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_00: That's not like flirting, but she took that as like, she took that personal, you know?
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_00: That's a pick me girl.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_00: If you're wearing like Daisy Dukes and like shit that shows your whole pussy shape and your asshole damn near, uh-huh, you're like asking for attention.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like for me, if I wear leggings, I'm gonna wear a giant shirt over it.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_00: Or like if I'm wearing uh my Spanx, I'll wear a giant shirt or a big hoodie or something.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you wear stuff like that, you're asking to be looked at.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_00: And then if if a guy looks at you, like if a guy's bench pressing or something and then he sits up and a girl with like fat cheeks walks by, I'm gonna look at the cheeks too.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like look what you're wearing, it's all up in my face.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_00: If you were five miles away, I wouldn't acknowledge you.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, facts, yeah.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_00: So I definitely feel like the girls that take it personal are should change their clothes or something, or maybe like not go to the gym.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_00: Work out at home, have some respect, some decorum for yourself.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_01: So they know women do know what they're wearing prior to go to the gym.
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_01: Because I've been seeing like half top, and then I've seen like, you know, like the shorts and everything.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just like, dog, I wouldn't.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_00: But I I I see like if you're wearing like joggers and that ass is fat and it's just poking out.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, that's that's that's different.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_00: But if you're wearing like, look at my titties, look at my ass, I'm pussy.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's like hello, like, hi, I see you.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_01: Let's be better.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, let's put some clothes on.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you came to the gym to get some muscles, not get some fucking dick.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I hear you though.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_00: I I I personally never been that girl.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_00: And when I was single, I would wear tight leggings, but when I got in a relationship, I wore big shirts.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like you just know.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like there's a I guess um boundaries.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_00: There you go.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_00: Very much so.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_01: When you were single, um, were the gray sweatpants on a guy with didn't get a sort of thing.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I don't fully tolerate that.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_00: My man wears gray sweatpants.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_00: Take that off.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_01: How about gray shorts?
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_00: Nothing gray black.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_01: Black's okay though.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, like you're a guy, obviously, you know, like I'm always wearing black.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_00: The butt is gonna show through the joggers.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_00: Like one time my my friends were over and I had my other half had some joggers on and a shirt.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, go put some fucking clothes on.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_01: Jane clothes.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_00: I do not like that.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_01: Do you think us guys?
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_01: Because um sometimes we we don't we don't think of what we put on.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_01: We just sometimes it's just Yeah, he probably had no intention.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_00: Me as a female.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, hey, you guys When you wear a C guy with gray sweatpants, your first instinct is to look at the bulge.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_01: When did you when do you think this gray sweatpants phenomenon started popping off?
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_01: Because back like I'm gonna say like five years ago, that it wasn't a thing.
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like it was never because it started popping off where like people were swearing wearing sweatpants, no one, no one said a thing.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_01: It was just nothing.
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_01: But then I'm gonna say a couple years ago, that's when it started popping off.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_01: Like, damn, grey sweatpants, this, and the third.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like, when did it like I would was it like if like five years ago you were noticing that?
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_01: I definitely remember it wasn't like a big thing.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't, I mean, I was in high school five years ago, so it wasn't a big thing, but as an adult now, I understand.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_00: Uh you know what I mean?
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was oblivious in high school, like I don't know what gray sweatpants and big bulges were.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_00: I wasn't, you know, but as you get older, your brain kind of matures your first instinct.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it just happens.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like if a girl's wearing leggings, your first instinct is to look at cheeks, right?
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_00: Cheeks, uh-huh.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it's it's the same thing.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_00: Uh huh.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_00: Same exact thing.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_00: Respect.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, respect on that.
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um something like that.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_00: What else we got?
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_01: Uh okay, here's a here's a good one.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_01: I'm trying to get you out of here too.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um, what's a subtle way of getting someone's attention on Instagram or on social media social media?
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_01: If you're trying to get someone's attention.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so I'm just gonna talk about how I got my other half's attention.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_00: So he um I was following his brother.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_00: We went to high school.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_00: I went to high school with his little brother.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_00: And um I literally he posted a picture, saw his picture, and I slid in his DMs.
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_00: I it wasn't like, hey, you're cute.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_00: It was um I followed him, waited like a week or two, and then he went to a Drake concert and I replied to one of his Drake stories.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta be subtle.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_01: That's how it started.
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then we were just um talking about that, and I was like, what are you doing tomorrow?
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_00: You wanna go to the beach?
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_01: That's a rap, and then that's how it happened.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_00: That's how it started.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_00: But to get somebody's attention, like as a female, I don't know.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like a guy trying to get a like a female's attention.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_00: Frick, I don't know, guys be guys are weird.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_01: Definitely.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I I can go to my DMs right now and click a random guy, and it's like they text every month.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's weird.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_01: Let me ask you this, Miss Silent.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, when I uh DM'd you, how did that come off?
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_01: I I love asking this question.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I didn't come off like weird because you're a podcast page.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_00: You're not like um a no-profile pick with 9,000 followers, a following and 12 followers.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_00: So that's it wasn't like um I didn't have to question it.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't like what the fuck?
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like this is weird.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_00: It was more like you know, I didn't take I didn't take it no way at all.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_00: But if you were like had no profile pick and like more following than followers, and like yeah, no, so you would have never applied.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_01: Having the pictures on there kind of looking legit, that personifies.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_00: No, being being like obviously your stories, seeing people I know with you, that's what made it like okay, this is his fault.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_00: This is okay.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_01: He he's safe.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_01: He's not no whack.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_00: He's not a freaking murderer who's gonna, you know, murder me.
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_00: But that's why that's what that's usually how I how most women do it.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_01: No, that's good, like to be safe.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you have to check, you have to check.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta make sure like somebody knows this person.
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, definitely.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_00: Even on like Facebook market, when you buy something off Facebook market, you gotta check out the phone.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, I'm I'm very off.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta check the reviews.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_00: If they're just straight off the bat, let me get um click this link type of thing, it's like okay, you're a scam, you know?
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_01: Let me ask you this.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_01: I've been called big bro um for a while, and then recently I'm getting called Unc.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_01: Have you gotten called Auntie?
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_01: You know, big sis auntie.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I've definitely gotten called Auntie, yeah.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_01: What does that make you feel?
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_00: I don't look old.
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like, why would you?
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_00: But I don't know.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_00: I I um this young boy was like 19 and I'm 24 and he called me Auntie.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, are you okay?
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_01: Do you took offense to that?
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's Auntie's respect for elders.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_01: Let me tell you this.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_01: I was at Foodland and I was like, Oh, thank you, Auntie.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_01: And she was like, I could tell, because she was talking to me in Tagalog.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_01: She says some stuff like, yo, we uh, same age.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, girl, you do not look my age.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like I wouldn't have taken it personal if he was like, Oh, thanks, sis.
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_00: That's different.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I say sis a lot now.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_01: Or like that.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, oh, thanks, thanks, big guy.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like I wouldn't walk up to another girl who's my age and be like, oh thanks, Auntie.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_01: So it's disrespectful.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_00: To young people, I've I mean, I don't know, it's it's how you look at it, but me personally, I'm I feel like auntie is a respect for older women.
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_01: What's the age for a younger person to call you auntie?
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, for me, like what age I got about.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_01: So let's say, no, let's say they have to be lower than an 11-year-old.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_01: Would you would you accept 11-year-old is fine.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_00: A 19-year-old.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_01: 13.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_00: 13's fine.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_01: 15.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_00: 15's fine.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_01: 17?
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_01: Pushing it.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_00: Pushing it.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_01: 16.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_01: So 16.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we can definitely 17 and below your okay.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_00: Let's just say, yeah, let's say 18.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um, 17's still kind of a child.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_00: You're not even legal to do anything.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_00: So we'll do 18.
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_01: Ah.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_00: But if I'm like 30 and you're 18, that's okay.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm an auntie.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_00: I'm literally.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_00: Literally 30 years old.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's it's definitely a I think it's kind of disrespectful to call somebody young auntie.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_00: I would not walk up to the girl who just came to the door and be like, hey auntie, she's gonna look at me like girl, we're probably the same age.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, you're right.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't do that either.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like you wouldn't walk up to, I don't know.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_00: You don't know.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_01: I feel you.
• 54:19
  SPEAKER_01: I feel you.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_01: Because I think like my um I have a lot of friends that uh they gave birth in um high school.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_01: So now it's like, dude, I'm I'm I'm like 20 years old and you're calling me uncle.
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just like, damn.
• 54:36
  SPEAKER_01: Like I I had to get used to that.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_01: Also, um my aunts had kids like around like my age.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm just like, damn, I'm an uncle because I don't know, it's just like, oh, call him Uncle Chris or whatever.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh shit.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm kind of used to like the whole uncle thing, you know, instead of big bro.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm just like, oh, it's like it's nothing to me now, but I could like back in the day, I would have been like, damn man.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_01: When did I become this?
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_01: You feel me?
• 55:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 55:05
  SPEAKER_01: Are you are you gonna be we're wrapping it up?
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_01: Would you be ready when the whole no big sis is happening?
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_01: It's just auntie.
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like, do you think you'll be ready for that?
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, I feel like then at that point I'll probably have a few more kids, and then it's like like damn.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_01: I I earn that title.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know what I mean?
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't take it to offense, but as a 24-year-old, I'm not sure.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, in these days now, you got a 30-year-old grandma.
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_00: This is fucking true.
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's sad, but you don't have grandma no more, so like your grandmas are in the club, you know, twerking it up, and they're like 30, 31.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like our generation is going downhill.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_01: Girl.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's wiping out.
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_01: You got 30-year-old grandpas.
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_01: What the fuck?
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_00: Great grandpa.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_00: No, not great.
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_00: That's kind of crazy.
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_01: 40-year-old great grandpas.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_01: Are you a great grandpa and you're 40 years old?
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's more realistic.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my goodness.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_01: Do better, y'all.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_00: Do better.
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_01: Shit.
• 56:10
  SPEAKER_01: Shiloh, that was fun.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_00: It is fun.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_00: We didn't go through all the questions.
• 56:13
  SPEAKER_00: Did we go through all of it?
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_01: Hell no.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_01: We were talking for like a good 30, 45 minutes.
• 56:17
  SPEAKER_01: One more?
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_01: Let's see.
• 56:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh we talk about women in the water.
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_01: Wanna talk about the requirements one?
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_01: What are what are w most women's requirements?
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_01: The question was, and it had a statement before that.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_01: It was like, women have requirements in a man.
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_01: Men have requirements in a woman.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_01: What are most women's requirements?
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um, should I speak from a personal thing?
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_00: Or should I speak for as like a general?
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um let's do both.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_00: Let's do it.
• 56:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, do both.
• 56:53
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, well, yeah.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um we'll start with you and then ease it into the general pop.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_00: Personally, um requirements is like obviously I feel like my man shouldn't be scared to tell the world that he's like that's my girl.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_01: That's an automatic thing.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_01: Why would someone say that's not my girl?
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_00: Or no, I mean, like some people, like some guys are they hide it?
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_00: Not more like okay, like gauge.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_00: This is off this is off the question, but do you think that if a guy doesn't have Instagram and they have a girlfriend or like had Instagram before the girlfriend and then deletes the Instagram with the girlfriend?
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what is your outlook on that?
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_00: Do you think they're just like, oh, I'm deleting it, but she still has Instagram?
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_01: Oh how would you look at it?
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_01: How would you Oh that's that that boy's playing?
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_01: Like he deletes Instagram.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_01: Well, see, it's two things.
• 57:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's either he's playing like he wants to keep the other females on his Instagram like in lock just in case they break up.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but after 30 days, the Instagram gets deleted.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_01: Oh word?
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_01: Oh shit, I didn't know that.
• 57:58
  unknown: Yeah.
• 57:59
  SPEAKER_00: After 30 days, if it's inactive and you sign out, if you if you s if you click delete account and you don't sign in within 30 days, it deletes.
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_01: Word.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_01: Huh.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_00: But if you say delete account, it'll say you have 30 days.
• 58:11
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I don't know.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_01: I just that's a that's a tricky question.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, well what what do you think?
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_00: Or what's Well, I only want to ask because you're a guy and like it's like me personally, I I I feel like there's something that there's sinister behind that.
• 58:25
  SPEAKER_01: See, because I've never done that before.
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_01: Like I don't know a lot.
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_00: You've never had the nerve the need to delete your Instagram.
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_01: What's your like or any of my social media accounts?
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like if I'm with a female, hell, like I honestly don't care if the world knows or not.
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_01: If I and then if that if there's a falling out with that female and I get with someone new, it's like, yo, you're with me now, you're not with my past.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_01: That's how I mean that's how I see things.
• 58:48
  SPEAKER_01: Like if I had, like, I'm not gonna lie, like I was a I was a pretty trashy person.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_01: I was a whore back in the day, but now it's like I'm a father now.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_01: So it's like if you try to differently.
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, if you try to bring back my past, it's like, dude, I don't want to, like if my wife I don't want to dabble in it and yeah, if my wife ever brought past shit, I'll be like, yo, man, you're living in the past.
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_01: I can't.
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_01: It's a it's one of those arguments where like, yo, if you're living in the past, I'm a I'm a moving forward type of person.
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think I want to like let's work on this now because if you keep on doing this, I'm gonna leave this marriage type of situation.
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, I was just asking because I feel like most guys, um like I follow girls who their guys post them all the time, you know.
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_01: It's like And it doesn't happen vice versa.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's because uh I think it's clout.
• 59:33
  SPEAKER_01: It's because if you appear single, it's like you are you are grabbing a certain type of audience, which is the guys, you know, and if you like say you bring a guy into the picture, it it destroys that guy's fantasy of, you know, or chance of dude, I might I might have a shot with you know with with Shyla, you know, because I know she's not pusino guy.
• 59:58
  SPEAKER_01: She sees in my eyes, she's seen.
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_01: On her profile, it doesn't say married or it doesn't say with a person, it just shows her and the kid.
• 1:00:06
  SPEAKER_01: So I think that's kind of how people, yeah, that's how people perceive it as.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_01: Opposed to a guy, it just shows like, oh, he's with that girl.
• 1:00:13
  SPEAKER_01: He's with that girl.
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_01: It depends what type of guy, but majority of the time, if a guy is with a girl, it's like, oh, that's his girl.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_01: That's his, you know, unless they read the caption, that's his wife or whatever.
• 1:00:24
  SPEAKER_01: Right, right, right.
• 1:00:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_01: But it's it's it's it's it's it's different because guys, it's like, oh, I have a shot.
• 1:00:30
  SPEAKER_01: She's single.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_01: If you don't post the yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_01: And then you're grass, yeah.
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_01: So that that's what I think.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_00: So like some requirements for women is that they're blasted on social media, you know, like just screaming to the world that she's together.
• 1:00:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that touch mine.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_01: That's a boo.
• 1:00:46
  SPEAKER_00: I like the physical touch, the words of affirmation, just like I shouldn't have to question our relationship.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_00: Those requirements, like being a man, a provider.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_01: So throughout this podcast, you've been keen on like the whole a man should do what a man does, and a woman should do what a woman does.
• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_00: I I truly feel like a man, like it's it's not the woman's job to take the trash out.
• 1:01:11
  SPEAKER_01: Girl, I'm the same way.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_01: Like I feel the same way, yeah.
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_00: The man's job to pay the bills, but it does not mean it's wrong if the woman wants to contribute.
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_00: Pay for the electric bill.
• 1:01:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:01:21
  SPEAKER_00: Take a water, take the phone bill.
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_00: It's fine.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't make the man any less of a provider.
• 1:01:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_00: If anything, that kind of makes the woman like, damn.
• 1:01:29
  SPEAKER_01: I love how I love how you broke that down because me growing up, and I grew up with my uh my birth mom, she was hardly ever there.
• 1:01:39
  SPEAKER_01: So I was my dad raised me, right?
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_01: And the fact that as a man, you're supposed to do this, this, this, and the third.
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_01: So it's like, as a woman, you're expected to do this.
• 1:01:51
  SPEAKER_01: So, like, let's say you and I are walking down the street, someone takes your purse, like, grabs your purse.
• 1:01:58
  SPEAKER_01: As a man, it's my job to run after that dude.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_01: I don't run first.
• 1:02:02
  SPEAKER_01: It ain't, but if like, let's say, I'll yeah, the roles is never gonna be reversed.
• 1:02:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I hear you.
• 1:02:06
  SPEAKER_00: Or like another topic that kind of should be we should shed light on is like a stay-at-home mother and then a full-time working dad.
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so okay, you know what?
• 1:02:21
  SPEAKER_01: Because I want to get you out of here because you know you have to be.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_00: I hear you, I hear you, I hear you.
• 1:02:24
  SPEAKER_01: We'll make this brief.
• 1:02:25
  SPEAKER_01: So, um, as a full-time mother, and you could tell me what a full-time dad should, I mean, a working dad should do.
• 1:02:31
  SPEAKER_01: As a full-time mother, I expect like at least the house, not it doesn't have to be spotless all the time, but at least semi-decent, you know, clean house.
• 1:02:41
  SPEAKER_00: I hear you.
• 1:02:41
  SPEAKER_00: I personally, like as a stay-at-home mom, maybe one or two days out the week, my other half will come home and there's dishes in the sink.
• 1:02:49
  SPEAKER_00: I just had a bad fucking day.
• 1:02:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:02:50
  SPEAKER_00: It just is what it is.
• 1:02:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:51
  SPEAKER_00: The dishes, the house is not gonna be spot clean every day.
• 1:02:53
  SPEAKER_00: The laundry's not gonna be folded every single day after we wash it.
• 1:02:56
  SPEAKER_00: Like there will be a pile of clothes here and there.
• 1:02:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's more like the woman should Yeah, tell me what the woman should clean, you know.
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, okay, clean.
• 1:03:06
  SPEAKER_00: Clean to nurture, you know, babe.
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_00: Are you good?
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_00: Do you need this?
• 1:03:09
  SPEAKER_00: You know, that's emotionally there for the man.
• 1:03:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um, the man should be there to lock the house up at night, make sure all the windows are locked, all the doors are locked.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_00: That shouldn't be the woman's job.
• 1:03:18
  SPEAKER_00: Small things like that, you know what I mean?
• 1:03:20
  SPEAKER_00: Or like sometimes I recently I've been lacking in it because I've there's no excuse, but I feel like m women should have their man's lunch pack for them for the next morning, or a breakfast burrito out the morning, um, to go out.
• 1:03:37
  SPEAKER_00: You know what?
• 1:03:37
  SPEAKER_01: That that makes that that makes sense.
• 1:03:39
  SPEAKER_00: Something small, like fuck babe, I didn't get to make your lunch last night.
• 1:03:41
  SPEAKER_00: Here's a fucking Jimmy Dean.
• 1:03:43
  SPEAKER_01: Would it be disrespectful if the guy was like, no, I don't, no need for that shit.
• 1:03:47
  SPEAKER_00: Do you feel less as one woman?
• 1:03:49
  SPEAKER_00: I definitely do take it personal if my if I wake up and I try to make my man breakfast, but he never doesn't take it.
• 1:03:55
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 1:03:56
  SPEAKER_00: My man, like, he'll be like, if I wasn't hungry, but I'll take it.
• 1:03:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I'll be like, hey, it's okay, eat it.
• 1:04:01
  SPEAKER_01: I'm the same, I'm the same way because I tell my wife all the time, like, yo, I'm not hungry.
• 1:04:05
  SPEAKER_01: I'm cool with this coffee that I made.
• 1:04:07
  SPEAKER_01: Cause you were sleeping.
• 1:04:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm I'm cool with I'm cool with it.
• 1:04:10
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you don't need to do anything, but she does do like, oh, do you want this and this?
• 1:04:14
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, no, no, I'm cool, I'm cool.
• 1:04:16
  SPEAKER_01: But okay.
• 1:04:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I feel like the woman should definitely do things like that.
• 1:04:20
  SPEAKER_00: And then the man should be like the provider, the um paying for things, you know.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_00: Letting the woman um like when like my photography money, my other half lets me do what I want with it.
• 1:04:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, but I I I as his other half, I try not to ask him for gas all the time, even though he fills my gas up.
• 1:04:38
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 1:04:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:40
  SPEAKER_01: It's like as a man, we do that.
• 1:04:41
  SPEAKER_01: Like if we're in your car and we see a I don't know.
• 1:04:45
  SPEAKER_01: For me, my pet peeve is if it's below half, I'm filling that motherfucker up.
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_01: So if I'm ever in my wife's car and I see it below half, I'm filling it up automatic.
• 1:04:53
  SPEAKER_01: Not asking for her card or whatever.
• 1:04:55
  SPEAKER_01: I it comes straight out of my account.
• 1:04:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:04:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I feel like um men should do things like that.
• 1:05:01
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like chivalry is dead in this generation.
• 1:05:05
  SPEAKER_01: Uh no, no, in all cases.
• 1:05:06
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, there's some guys out there that still open the door.
• 1:05:10
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I hear you.
• 1:05:12
  SPEAKER_00: I there definitely are.
• 1:05:14
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, but I feel like now it's like that saying the group of friends you hang with is who you become.
• 1:05:19
  SPEAKER_00: If that's true.
• 1:05:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like if you Oh, yeah, definitely your friends.
• 1:05:22
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 1:05:22
  SPEAKER_00: Nowadays, uh the guys, the boys, the little boys just want to be gangsters.
• 1:05:26
  SPEAKER_00: That's why there's so much gun violence.
• 1:05:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yans.
• 1:05:28
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-mm.
• 1:05:30
  SPEAKER_00: It's like in their head, it's like, oh they're trying to get bodies.
• 1:05:34
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 1:05:34
  SPEAKER_00: They're not trying to get in a relationship, find a wife, and start a family.
• 1:05:37
  SPEAKER_00: This generation, they're trying to get bodies and beat bitches up.
• 1:05:41
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 1:05:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's not Chibery is dying.
• 1:05:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's dying.
• 1:05:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's not dead, it's dying.
• 1:05:47
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:05:47
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we need mamas like you to uh to raise young gentlemen, you know?
• 1:05:55
  SPEAKER_00: So But also I I as a stay-at-home mommy, I personally I love staying home at Bubba, but I do want to get back into the work scene.
• 1:06:05
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, no, I feel you.
• 1:06:06
  SPEAKER_01: I feel you.
• 1:06:07
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like it's kind of hard to come to an agreement, right?
• 1:06:10
  SPEAKER_00: Because as a stay-at-home mom, and then your other half work is 10 hours, eight hours, it's like how can how can you do that switch off, right?
• 1:06:17
  SPEAKER_00: They wake up at five, six in the morning.
• 1:06:19
  SPEAKER_00: You get off at two in the morning, you know, right?
• 1:06:22
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like it's a lot of relationships fail because they can't come to an agreement on things like that.
• 1:06:28
  SPEAKER_01: Like compromise.
• 1:06:29
  SPEAKER_00: Compromising uh the woman might be tired.
• 1:06:32
  SPEAKER_00: The woman will never know what it's like to be a 10-hour in a relationship working 10 hours being a provider, and the man probably will never know what it's like to be a stay-at-home dad while the mom goes to work 10 hours a day.
• 1:06:42
  SPEAKER_00: You know?
• 1:06:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:06:43
  SPEAKER_00: There are people, there are relationships for sure.
• 1:06:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but it it's uh very unlikely, and I feel like in this day and age, you know what I mean?
• 1:06:50
  SPEAKER_01: Girl, let me tell you, I would love, I tell my wife this all the time, to be a stay-at-home dad.
• 1:06:55
  SPEAKER_00: My my other half says that too, but it's like, do you not leave the house without forgetting your wallet or a shoe or a sock or something?
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_01: I forget my keys.
• 1:07:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I women make sure they got the diapers, the wipes, the keys, the shoes, the bottles, the snacks.
• 1:07:10
  SPEAKER_00: She might forget things for herself, but she'll never forget something for her other half of her kid.
• 1:07:16
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, as a single parent, like before I met my wife, I was a single parent.
• 1:07:21
  SPEAKER_00: You was on it?
• 1:07:22
  SPEAKER_01: I was on, yeah, I was on, but then when like once I got married, like I eased back off that and I was like, I was like, yo, I'm gonna let you do your mom thing.
• 1:07:31
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, but as a single parent, like back in the day, I was on top of that.
• 1:07:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I think it's just because I had no one else to have my back and to rely on at that moment in time in my life.
• 1:07:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there are single parents out here who are doing the fucking thing.
• 1:07:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they they're the ones who need the applause for yeah.
• 1:07:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:07:52
  SPEAKER_01: Shit.
• 1:07:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I gotta get you out of here.
• 1:07:54
  SPEAKER_01: We have to hell in.
• 1:07:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:07:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um, Miss Shiloh, do you have any shout-outs or anything?
• 1:07:59
  SPEAKER_01: Or where can these people find you at?
• 1:08:01
  SPEAKER_00: Well, first off, thank you for having me.
• 1:08:04
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, girl, thank you.
• 1:08:05
  SPEAKER_00: Today's been an amazing day.
• 1:08:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um I will be in a fashion show October 18th at um at the spot, the secret spot, Honolulu.
• 1:08:16
  SPEAKER_01: I love that place.
• 1:08:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it was it's it's uh Jess and Kiwi Productions.
• 1:08:20
  SPEAKER_00: She's throwing the show, and um, it's gonna be a big event.
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's the first Halloween costume contest and for Hawaii, so it's gonna be pretty big.
• 1:08:31
  SPEAKER_00: You guys should come out.
• 1:08:32
  SPEAKER_00: You should come out, you guys should come out.
• 1:08:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's 21 and over, though.
• 1:08:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um be drinks, there'll be bad bitches, everything.
• 1:08:41
  SPEAKER_00: Gotta come out and support.
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um, um, um, do you have to dress up?
• 1:08:44
  SPEAKER_00: No, you don't have to dress up.
• 1:08:45
  SPEAKER_00: All the all the models will be dressing up.
• 1:08:47
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: So there'll be a contest, there'll be awards given them, and there'll be a thousand dollar price.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's gonna be big.
• 1:08:54
  SPEAKER_00: And it's gonna be um eight to twelve, and there's like half of three.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um you guys can follow my photography page at uh shy photography.
• 1:09:10
  SPEAKER_00: Photography with two eyes.
• 1:09:12
  SPEAKER_00: Girl, what I say, I say I because my son's is my son is Shiloh.
• 1:09:16
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 1:09:18
  SPEAKER_00: That's really good.
• 1:09:19
  SPEAKER_01: Girl, when I first read it, why did I thought it was like chipotography?
• 1:09:24
  SPEAKER_01: You're like, I thought it was like shippo, and then I separated.
• 1:09:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but you're not the first person to say that.
• 1:09:28
  SPEAKER_00: I'm dumbass.
• 1:09:29
  SPEAKER_00: I'm definitely not the first person to say that at all.
• 1:09:31
  SPEAKER_01: Girl.
• 1:09:32
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I do appreciate you coming on.
• 1:09:33
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for having me.
• 1:09:34
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, KO Studios, thank you for the lovely home.
• 1:09:36
  SPEAKER_01: Raffi Body, thank you for the lovely Vindman.
• 1:09:39
  SPEAKER_01: And with that, I'm Chris.
• 1:09:41
  SPEAKER_01: And we out this bitch.
• 1:09:42
  SPEAKER_01: Peace.
• 1:09:43
  SPEAKER_00: Nice, babe.
• 1:09:45
  unknown: Oh, um, a minute and ten.